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Super 909
Anyone have an opinion on the "Super" 909 located at
http://www.radiolabs.com/products/re...s/super909.php ? I am considering taking up shortwave radio. I have a while before I'll have the money, I am just looking for information. Thanks- |
If you feel like trusting a stranger, I'll sell you my C Crane
Pro-modified ATS 909 for a hundred and a half. http://community-2.webtv.net/DEMEM/L...mes/page2.html |
"j.d." wrote in message ... Anyone have an opinion on the "Super" 909 located at http://www.radiolabs.com/products/re...s/super909.php ? I am considering taking up shortwave radio. I have a while before I'll have the money, I am just looking for information. Thanks- It is overpriced. You can do much better for your money. Sony 7600gr: about $ 140.00 (IMO the best portable on the market and it has a ssb selectable am sync. Good sensitivity, it is selective and has reasonable audio. It is also very good for medium wave DX'ing. Great for resolving weak signals) Grundig YB-400: about $130.00 (Very good portable with amazing audio quality. Also sensitive and selective.) Tecsun PL-550: about $50.00 (Amazing value for dollar. Sensitive, great audio, has lots of great features and has a push button tuner as well as a knob.) Degen 1103: about $50.00 (reported to be very sensitive and selective. also has a tuning knob. I have never used one, but I'm told it is a great little radio) For the money I'd say get one of the radio's above rather then the Super-909. Especially the 7600gr. Even though it is less expensive, IMHO it is a better radio for swl. If you want to spend over $ 320.00 at least walk away with a Sat-800 or an R-75. Michael |
"j.d." wrote in message ... Anyone have an opinion on the "Super" 909 located at http://www.radiolabs.com/products/re...s/super909.php ? I am considering taking up shortwave radio. I have a while before I'll have the money, I am just looking for information. Thanks- Try a Degen 1103. You can get a new one on Ebay for about $65 and probably get a better radio. DeWayne |
I am aware of the REGULAR 909 and it is a fine radio. It's not quite as
efficient (battery wise) as the 7600GR, but has more bells and whistles. Radio Labs helps to sponsor Steve Quayle's radio program and this says a lot for them. Also, they give a 30 day money back guarantee so you have nothing to lose. Steve can be heard at 9.475 MHz every M-F at 7:00 PM EDT. That's 23:00 UTC. Of course, at the end of this month, about two weeks we'll be going back to regular time and we'll be 5 hrs behind UTC or it'll be 24:00 UTC at that time. Also, I believe I just heard WWCR mention deleting 9.475 and using 9.985 instead. For what it's worth, that will be fine with me as I have an automobile radio that has a gap from 9.0 to 9.5 MHz (between SW1 & SW2) so I can't get 9475 but can get 9985. :-) Steve's web site is http://www.stevequayle.com He says that this radio has been modified to pick up shortwave signals and medium wave signals a lot better. Seems he may have mentioned the FM as well, but I'm not real sure on that. About the solar cell. Steve says that the internet and power grid WILL go down. That solar cell is supposedly one that you can fold up and carry with you very easily or you can place it across your backpack and charge a radio or extra set of batteries while you hike. He says that shortwave may be the only reliable source of information available when things come crashing down around us. I'm sure there will be DISinformation agents on SW then, as there may very well be now. However, you can go steer crazy with NO contact with the outside world. Shortwave can be that contact, that source of information -- if you have enough batteries to last you -- or if you have the solar charger. Also, that charger comes with multiple adapters to fit many different pieces of electronic equipment. I'd like to get the solar panel if nothing else as I have several radios. However, if you don't already have a good radio I expect the Super 909 might be a very fine way to start, especially if you can get the complete outfit with charger, etc.. Just my $0.02 worth. :-) Al ========== j.d. wrote: Anyone have an opinion on the "Super" 909 located at http://www.radiolabs.com/products/re...s/super909.php ? I am considering taking up shortwave radio. I have a while before I'll have the money, I am just looking for information. Thanks- |
j.d. schrieb:
Anyone have an opinion on the "Super" 909 located at http://www.radiolabs.com/products/re...s/super909.php ? A number of people do not seem so happy with their modified 909s. Particularly battery life (yet worse than stock?!) and SSB tuning appear to be issues (still reading in the DX398 Yahoo! group what exactly the problems are, suggest you do the same). Also, it doesn't surprise me that the blue LEDs are rather dim using rechargeables - they need a higher supply voltage and are not very efficient either (partly because the human eye is not as sensitive to blue light; orange or green usually works best). On the other hand, if you're using the thing mainly for listening to AM stations with mains power supply and an external antenna, it's supposed to work rather well, with better sound than stock. Stephan -- Meine Andere Seite: http://stephan.win31.de/ PC#6: i440BX, 2xP3-500E, 512 MiB, 18+80 GB, R9k AGP 64 MiB, 110W This is a SCSI-inside, Legacy-plus, TCPA-free computer :) |
Read a lot of good things about the 7600GR. The thing is, I live in
the middle of Kansas, and the number and quality of the radio stations I can receive is limited, so I'd like to get my old stations from Kansas City/Lawrence. Also, I am intrigued by being able to pick up stations from across the country and around the world. Can you hook up an external antenna to the 7600, and if so, what sort would you recommend? Remember that I am totally new to this, so things may have to be explained in a little more detail. Thanks a lot. On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:43:37 GMT, "Michael" wrote: It is overpriced. You can do much better for your money. Sony 7600gr: about $ 140.00 (IMO the best portable on the market and it has a ssb selectable am sync. Good sensitivity, it is selective and has reasonable audio. It is also very good for medium wave DX'ing. Great for resolving weak signals) Grundig YB-400: about $130.00 (Very good portable with amazing audio quality. Also sensitive and selective.) Tecsun PL-550: about $50.00 (Amazing value for dollar. Sensitive, great audio, has lots of great features and has a push button tuner as well as a knob.) Degen 1103: about $50.00 (reported to be very sensitive and selective. also has a tuning knob. I have never used one, but I'm told it is a great little radio) For the money I'd say get one of the radio's above rather then the Super-909. Especially the 7600gr. Even though it is less expensive, IMHO it is a better radio for swl. If you want to spend over $ 320.00 at least walk away with a Sat-800 or an R-75. Michael |
My vote goes to the Sony 7600GR.
If your thinking of spending over $300 then start looking at used table top receivers and Ham gear which will out perform any portable. |
"j.d." wrote in message ... Read a lot of good things about the 7600GR. The thing is, I live in the middle of Kansas, and the number and quality of the radio stations I can receive is limited, so I'd like to get my old stations from Kansas City/Lawrence. Also, I am intrigued by being able to pick up stations from across the country and around the world. Can you hook up an external antenna to the 7600, and if so, what sort would you recommend? Remember that I am totally new to this, so things may have to be explained in a little more detail. Your sure can hook an external antenna up to it. It has a jack for one. Or you can just connect a wire up to the whip antenna. The 7600gr comes with just such an antenna. Michael Thanks a lot. On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:43:37 GMT, "Michael" wrote: It is overpriced. You can do much better for your money. Sony 7600gr: about $ 140.00 (IMO the best portable on the market and it has a ssb selectable am sync. Good sensitivity, it is selective and has reasonable audio. It is also very good for medium wave DX'ing. Great for resolving weak signals) Grundig YB-400: about $130.00 (Very good portable with amazing audio quality. Also sensitive and selective.) Tecsun PL-550: about $50.00 (Amazing value for dollar. Sensitive, great audio, has lots of great features and has a push button tuner as well as a knob.) Degen 1103: about $50.00 (reported to be very sensitive and selective. also has a tuning knob. I have never used one, but I'm told it is a great little radio) For the money I'd say get one of the radio's above rather then the Super-909. Especially the 7600gr. Even though it is less expensive, IMHO it is a better radio for swl. If you want to spend over $ 320.00 at least walk away with a Sat-800 or an R-75. Michael |
"j.d." wrote:
Anyone have an opinion on the "Super" 909 located at http://www.radiolabs.com/products/re...s/super909.php ? I am considering taking up shortwave radio. I have a while before I'll have the money, I am just looking for information. Thanks- By most accounts the 'Super 909' performs better than the stock one. However it's rather pricey and therefore a matter of opinion on whether you get your moneys worth. If you're handy with electronics or know someone that is, a stock 909 can be modified for much less than the cost of the Super model. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
I originally bought my Sangean ATS-909W from a ThieCom in Germany (the
'W' meaning it covers 76-108FM instead of the usual 88-108) and got it upgraded by RadioLabs while visiting the States. I've never used the Sony 7600GR nor the other portables mentioned, so can't comment there but I've found my mod'd 909 to be quite a bit better than it was unmodified. The sound is certainly a LOT better and the sensitivity seems to be quite a bit better too but again, since I don't have any other shortwave receivers to compare it too, I can't say if it's better or worse overall. As pointed out in previous posts, there is a fair cost difference between a Sony 7600GR and the overall cost of a mod'd 909. (If you're wondering then why I ended up going for the 909 + mod, some of the reasons were the addition of RDS and the signal strength indicator. Most European FM stations use RDS, so it's handy for quickly identifying them.) ...Francis |
j.d. wrote in message . ..
Anyone have an opinion on the "Super" 909 located at http://www.radiolabs.com/products/re...s/super909.php ? I am considering taking up shortwave radio. I have a while before I'll have the money, I am just looking for information. Thanks- I can tell you, price notwithstanding, that the Super 909/DX-398 is a significant improvement over stock. I had a DX-398 that I got from RD on closeout for $100, so I felt that it might be worthwhile - and it was! The sound is cleaner and easier on the ears, the sensitivity off the whip is improved, the RF Gain now works very well on AM and FM, and the modified controls feel better. The blue display is quite nice. I'm not sure why folks do not like the SSB tuning - mine works great and sounds fine, either on hams, utes or ECSS - maybe they don't like the increased power drain? I use it with a power supply anyway most of the time, so it is no big deal. Having said all of this - I think I agree with the posters who recommend using the money toward a good used rig. $300 buys a lot of good used radio. Bruce Jensen |
"bpnjensen" wrote in message om... j.d. wrote in message . .. Anyone have an opinion on the "Super" 909 located at http://www.radiolabs.com/products/re...s/super909.php ? I am considering taking up shortwave radio. I have a while before I'll have the money, I am just looking for information. Thanks- I can tell you, price notwithstanding, that the Super 909/DX-398 is a significant improvement over stock. I had a DX-398 that I got from RD on closeout for $100, so I felt that it might be worthwhile - and it was! The sound is cleaner and easier on the ears, the sensitivity off the whip is improved, the RF Gain now works very well on AM and FM, and the modified controls feel better. The blue display is quite nice. I'm not sure why folks do not like the SSB tuning - mine works great and sounds fine, either on hams, utes or ECSS - maybe they don't like the increased power drain? I use it with a power supply anyway most of the time, so it is no big deal. Having said all of this - I think I agree with the posters who recommend using the money toward a good used rig. $300 buys a lot of good used radio. I'm thinking about having this done as well, and my primary consideration would be improving the radio's sensitivity since I already use an external speaker. Is there an -overall- improvement in sensitivity (which I would think would be the case) for those who use an external loop, or is it primarily noticeable when using the whip? My take on the value equation is that it may be worth it if you already have the radio anyway, but that $330 for the moded radio gets you into pretty rich territory where you're not that far from a new Sat 800, new Icom R75, or something decent used. |
True. . .If you are thinking of all things remaining as they are.
However, Should you be forced into a situation where you require a good portable the Super 909, with the solar charger would be far superior to any table top that had to be left at home. :-) Tian Li wrote: My vote goes to the Sony 7600GR. If your thinking of spending over $300 then start looking at used table top receivers and Ham gear which will out perform any portable. |
Hello.
It is my opinion that for a first purchase (and one you will not "outgrow"), you cannot beat the combination of the Sony ICF-SW7600GR AND the Sony AN-LP1 Active Loop Antenna. This appears to be an almost ideal combination and can be purchased in total for less than $260 (sometimes much less). I myself, however, would deal with one of the established shortwave dealers, such as Universal, Grove, or AES. (I know that AES stocks both the radio and the antenna; I'm not too sure about the others.) You pay "top dollar" but you get excellent service with no "surprises" and you have a good company standing behind you. (I feel that, in this hobby, with its sophisticated and complex equipment, that is very important.) Note that the AN-LP1 works only on shortwave frequencies and MUST be disconnected from the radio for proper MW reception. (Should you wish to DX on MW, I should recommend the Select-A-Tenna, less than $60 at various dealers.) Also note that the AN-LP1 antenna is strictly an "indoor" antenna (which works best when placed next to a window). For outdoor use, I have found that a Sangean ANT-60 works fairly well with the '7600GR but often does NOT outperform the whip. If the combination price is too high for you at present, you can buy the radio alone and get very good reception right off the whip. (Outdoors, I generally use the whip only and with very good results.) You could always buy the AN-LP1 antenna later. The only "flaws" in this radio are (surprisingly) image rejection which is less than excellent (cannot be corrected at this time) and sound quality which is only good-to-very good (can be easily "corrected" by connecting the radio through its line-output to a stereo system). Battery life is excellent; I use rechargeable NiMH batteries. An AC-adapter is not really necessary. All in all, the '7600GR is an outstanding first radio and one which you will take on vacations as it is also a "dual alarm clock-radio!" As I stated above, no matter what other radios you may purchase, you will never "outgrow" this one. It does not need to be "modified" in any way, either. All the best, Joe j.d. wrote in message . .. Read a lot of good things about the 7600GR. The thing is, I live in the middle of Kansas, and the number and quality of the radio stations I can receive is limited, so I'd like to get my old stations from Kansas City/Lawrence. Also, I am intrigued by being able to pick up stations from across the country and around the world. Can you hook up an external antenna to the 7600, and if so, what sort would you recommend? Remember that I am totally new to this, so things may have to be explained in a little more detail. Thanks a lot. |
"Al Patrick" wrote in message ... True. . .If you are thinking of all things remaining as they are. However, Should you be forced into a situation where you require a good portable the Super 909, with the solar charger would be far superior to any table top that had to be left at home. :-) I would recommend checking out the new Degen 1103, new for around $65 shipped. DeWayne Tian Li wrote: My vote goes to the Sony 7600GR. If your thinking of spending over $300 then start looking at used table top receivers and Ham gear which will out perform any portable. |
"starman" wrote in message ... "j.d." wrote: Anyone have an opinion on the "Super" 909 located at http://www.radiolabs.com/products/re...s/super909.php ? I am considering taking up shortwave radio. I have a while before I'll have the money, I am just looking for information. Thanks- By most accounts the 'Super 909' performs better than the stock one. However it's rather pricey and therefore a matter of opinion on whether you get your moneys worth. If you're handy with electronics or know someone that is, a stock 909 can be modified for much less than the cost of the Super model. Here is a list of some mods: http://members.verizon.net/~vze20h45...9mods.html#top |
"bpnjensen" wrote in message om... j.d. wrote in message . .. Anyone have an opinion on the "Super" 909 located at http://www.radiolabs.com/products/re...s/super909.php ? I am considering taking up shortwave radio. I have a while before I'll have the money, I am just looking for information. Thanks- I can tell you, price notwithstanding, that the Super 909/DX-398 is a significant improvement over stock. I had a DX-398 that I got from RD on closeout for $100, so I felt that it might be worthwhile - and it was! The sound is cleaner and easier on the ears, the sensitivity off the whip is improved, the RF Gain now works very well on AM and FM, and the modified controls feel better. The blue display is quite nice. I'm not sure why folks do not like the SSB tuning - mine works great and sounds fine, either on hams, utes or ECSS - maybe they don't SSB is too WIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DeWayne like the increased power drain? I use it with a power supply anyway most of the time, so it is no big deal. Having said all of this - I think I agree with the posters who recommend using the money toward a good used rig. $300 buys a lot of good used radio. Bruce Jensen |
"Joe Analssandrini" wrote in message om... Hello. It is my opinion that for a first purchase (and one you will not "outgrow"), you cannot beat the combination of the Sony ICF-SW7600GR AND the Sony AN-LP1 Active Loop Antenna. This appears to be an almost ideal combination and can be purchased in total for less than $260 (sometimes much less). I myself, however, would deal with one of the established shortwave dealers, such as Universal, Grove, or AES. (I Grove no longer sells Sony radios. know that AES stocks both the radio and the antenna; I'm not too sure about the others.) You pay "top dollar" but you get excellent service with no "surprises" and you have a good company standing behind you. (I feel that, in this hobby, with its sophisticated and complex equipment, that is very important.) Note that the AN-LP1 works only on shortwave frequencies and MUST be disconnected from the radio for proper MW reception. (Should you wish to DX on MW, I should recommend the Select-A-Tenna, less than $60 at various dealers.) Also note that the AN-LP1 antenna is strictly an "indoor" antenna (which works best when placed next to a window). For outdoor use, I have found that a Sangean ANT-60 works fairly well with the '7600GR but often does NOT outperform the whip. If the combination price is too high for you at present, you can buy the radio alone and get very good reception right off the whip. (Outdoors, I generally use the whip only and with very good results.) You could always buy the AN-LP1 antenna later. The only "flaws" in this radio are (surprisingly) image rejection which is less than excellent (cannot be corrected at this time) and sound quality which is only good-to-very good (can be easily "corrected" by connecting the radio through its line-output to a stereo system). Battery life is excellent; I use rechargeable NiMH batteries. An AC-adapter is not really necessary. All in all, the '7600GR is an outstanding first radio and one which you will take on vacations as it is also a "dual alarm clock-radio!" As I stated above, no matter what other radios you may purchase, you will never "outgrow" this one. It does not need to be "modified" in any way, either. Again, for a first time radio I recommend checking out the new Degen 1103 for $65 shipped. DeWayne All the best, Joe j.d. wrote in message . .. Read a lot of good things about the 7600GR. The thing is, I live in the middle of Kansas, and the number and quality of the radio stations I can receive is limited, so I'd like to get my old stations from Kansas City/Lawrence. Also, I am intrigued by being able to pick up stations from across the country and around the world. Can you hook up an external antenna to the 7600, and if so, what sort would you recommend? Remember that I am totally new to this, so things may have to be explained in a little more detail. Thanks a lot. |
"T. Early" wrote in message ...
"bpnjensen" wrote in message om... j.d. wrote in message . .. Anyone have an opinion on the "Super" 909 located at http://www.radiolabs.com/products/re...s/super909.php ? I am considering taking up shortwave radio. I have a while before I'll have the money, I am just looking for information. Thanks- I can tell you, price notwithstanding, that the Super 909/DX-398 is a significant improvement over stock. I had a DX-398 that I got from RD on closeout for $100, so I felt that it might be worthwhile - and it was! The sound is cleaner and easier on the ears, the sensitivity off the whip is improved, the RF Gain now works very well on AM and FM, and the modified controls feel better. The blue display is quite nice. I'm not sure why folks do not like the SSB tuning - mine works great and sounds fine, either on hams, utes or ECSS - maybe they don't like the increased power drain? I use it with a power supply anyway most of the time, so it is no big deal. Having said all of this - I think I agree with the posters who recommend using the money toward a good used rig. $300 buys a lot of good used radio. I'm thinking about having this done as well, and my primary consideration would be improving the radio's sensitivity since I already use an external speaker. Is there an -overall- improvement in sensitivity (which I would think would be the case) for those who use an external loop, or is it primarily noticeable when using the whip? My take on the value equation is that it may be worth it if you already have the radio anyway, but that $330 for the moded radio gets you into pretty rich territory where you're not that far from a new Sat 800, new Icom R75, or something decent used. I have heard that the sensitivity overall is improved, but I personally have not yet plugged an antenna into the jack. In fact, on the occasions when I've used an external antenna, I've just coupled it to the whip using an insulated inductor coil of wire - it works great. I agree, it would be nice to use either a passively-coupled or plugged in loop on this radio. I also agree that, for $330, you may be able to get more radio than the Sangean. Bruce Jensen |
I would recommend checking out the new Degen 1103, new for around $65 shipped. DeWayne Mmmm, maybe. Its a grey market radio, quality control I heard is iffy and warranty service is send it back to Hong Kong and forget about SWL for 4 months. The 1103 would be excellent as a knock around portable if you need something which may get damaged or stolen during extensive travels. But I would not recommend it as a starter or as a person's sole radio. Resale would be practically nil whereas the 7600GR is in demand (for good reason) and would be relatively easier to resell if a first time SW listener lost interest or won the lottery. all IMO. |
does anyone know the specific mods to improve sensitivity using just the whip?
i have three of these radios and the sensitivity is porr below 7 mhz--but increases significantly above about 15 mhz..??filters somewhere??? tx |
Bunia3 wrote:
does anyone know the specific mods to improve sensitivity using just the whip? i have three of these radios and the sensitivity is porr below 7 mhz--but increases significantly above about 15 mhz..??filters somewhere??? The best way to find the whip sensitivity mod's for the ATS-909 or DX-398 is to do a Google-Groups search for this group. Look for posts during the years 2000-2003. That should cover the time when these mod's were being discussed the most. I did two whip sensitivity mod's for my DX-398. I removed resistor R-43 and I made a balun transformer on a small ferrite core which is installed (internally) between the whip and it's connection point on the PC board. These mod's greatly increased the whip sensitivity. It's now comparable to the Sony-2010, which is very sensitive on the whip antenna. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
Hello DeWayne,
The price for the Degen DE1103 is certainly right but the radio does not have selectable synchronous sideband. For me, that would preclude it from my "short list." As we are heading into the end of the current sunspot cycle, that circuit, which minimizes selectable fading distortion, is almost essential. I feel that, for a first-time purchaser, the Sony ICF-SW7600GR (along with, if finances permit, the Sony AN-LP1 Active Loop Antenna) is an almost ideal combination. Reception quality is excellent and parts and build quality, things which are very important, are superb. The features offered for the price make it well worth its cost. Frankly, I feel it is a bargain. (I own three [3] '7600GRs and two [2] '7600Gs. I also own three [3] AN-LP1s. In the over six years since I purchased my first 'G model, I have never had any problem with these radios or antennas.) As I have stated in many other posts, I would not even consider purchasing a SW radio which does not have a (good, fully functioning) synchronous selectable sideband circuit. The improvement in reception and listening enjoyment is just too great to do without it. It is, in my opinion, as great an advance as digital tuning. Thanks for the info about Grove no longer stocking Sony. (I wonder why?) Best, Joe P.S. Not having had any experience with the Sangean ATS-909, the "Super 909," or the Degen DE1103 radios, I am not qualified to make comments but, from what I've read, the Degen would seem to perform almost as well as the "Super 909" at about one-fifth the price. I can say that, having had some experience with other Sangean radios (ATS-808A and ATS-606AP, both made in Taiwan), their build quality is somewhat lacking. In other words, the radios don't "hold up," at least in my experience. Very disappointing. I don't know about the quality of Degen radios. "DeWayne" wrote in message ... Again, for a first time radio I recommend checking out the new Degen 1103 for $65 shipped. DeWayne |
"Joe Analssandrini" wrote in message om... Hello DeWayne, The price for the Degen DE1103 is certainly right but the radio does not have selectable synchronous sideband. For me, that would preclude it from my "short list." As we are heading into the end of the current sunspot cycle, that circuit, which minimizes selectable fading distortion, is almost essential. I feel that, for a first-time purchaser, the Sony ICF-SW7600GR (along with, if finances permit, the Sony AN-LP1 Active Loop Antenna) is an almost ideal combination. Reception quality is excellent and parts and build quality, things which are very important, are superb. The features offered for the price make it well worth its cost. Frankly, I feel it is a bargain. (I own three [3] '7600GRs and two [2] '7600Gs. I also own three [3] AN-LP1s. In the over six years since I purchased my first 'G model, I have never had any problem with these radios or antennas.) Ok on all, but I am talking about a first time buyer mainly. I am talking about $65 and you are talking about around $200 more. I dare say that someone would possibly be just as happy with the Degen 1103. You are talking close to the price of a decent used desktop rig. I own a Torus Tuner SW loop that runs rings around the AN-LP1. As I have stated in many other posts, I would not even consider purchasing a SW radio which does not have a (good, fully functioning) synchronous selectable sideband circuit. The improvement in reception and listening enjoyment is just too great to do without it. It is, in my opinion, as great an advance as digital tuning. Thanks for the info about Grove no longer stocking Sony. (I wonder why?) They didn't like Sony's holier than thou attitude. Best, Joe P.S. Not having had any experience with the Sangean ATS-909, the "Super 909," or the Degen DE1103 radios, I am not qualified to make comments but, from what I've read, the Degen would seem to perform almost as well as the "Super 909" at about one-fifth the price. I can say that, having had some experience with other Sangean radios (ATS-808A and ATS-606AP, both made in Taiwan), their build quality is somewhat lacking. In other words, the radios don't "hold up," at least in my experience. Very disappointing. I don't know about the quality of Degen radios. I had a super DX-398 and was VERY dissappointed. DeWayne "DeWayne" wrote in message ... Again, for a first time radio I recommend checking out the new Degen 1103 for $65 shipped. DeWayne |
"DeWayne" wrote in message ... Ok on all, but I am talking about a first time buyer mainly. I am talking about $65 and you are talking about around $200 more. I dare say that someone would possibly be just as happy with the Degen 1103. You are talking close to the price of a decent used desktop rig. I own a Torus Tuner SW loop that runs rings around the AN-LP1. Are you using your TT with or without the amp? I'm quite pleased with mine but have never compared it to the AN-LP1 and am perpetually curious about how they stack up. |
"T. Early" wrote in message ... "DeWayne" wrote in message ... Ok on all, but I am talking about a first time buyer mainly. I am talking about $65 and you are talking about around $200 more. I dare say that someone would possibly be just as happy with the Degen 1103. You are talking close to the price of a decent used desktop rig. I own a Torus Tuner SW loop that runs rings around the AN-LP1. Are you using your TT with or without the amp? I'm quite pleased with mine but have never compared it to the AN-LP1 and am perpetually curious about how they stack up. I have the amp. I had both the AN-LP1 and TT at the same time, but kept the TT, no contest! The Sony is not bad but the TT is excellent. DeWayne |
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