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Miracle710 October 17th 04 06:55 AM

VOA forbidden to broadcast in the US?
 
Is it true that Voice of America is forbidden by US law to broadcast
domestically?



Brenda Ann Dyer October 17th 04 07:13 AM


"Miracle710" wrote in message
news:1097992521.ae/uNaKFA9ByhCaktFMFtA@teranews...
Is it true that Voice of America is forbidden by US law to broadcast
domestically?



Not just the VOA. The law specifically excludes all SW broadcast stations
from broadcasting to a primary audience in the US.




dxAce October 17th 04 11:39 AM



Miracle710 wrote:

Is it true that Voice of America is forbidden by US law to broadcast
domestically?


Yes. The legislation that prohibits the VOA from targeting a domestic audience
is popularly known as the 'Smith-Mundt Act'.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



Raymond Pfaff October 17th 04 01:35 PM

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 06:55:07 +0100, "Miracle710"
wrote:

Is it true that Voice of America is forbidden by US law to broadcast
domestically?

I don't know if "forbidden" is the right word, but their mandate is to
broadcast overseas. In the 80s they wouldn't acknowledge a reception
report from inside the United States. I got one from writing them
when I was living over in Germany.

dxAce October 17th 04 01:40 PM



Raymond Pfaff wrote:

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 06:55:07 +0100, "Miracle710"
wrote:

Is it true that Voice of America is forbidden by US law to broadcast
domestically?

I don't know if "forbidden" is the right word, but their mandate is to
broadcast overseas. In the 80s they wouldn't acknowledge a reception
report from inside the United States. I got one from writing them
when I was living over in Germany.


I got many acknowlegements from the VOA in the 1980's, in the form of QSL cards,
and other material.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



starman October 18th 04 06:50 AM

Miracle710 wrote:

Is it true that Voice of America is forbidden by US law to broadcast
domestically?


VOA programming can not be intended for US listeners at home. Since VOA
transmitters are commonly heard in the US, it's the program content that
must be intended for other countries, not the signal itself.


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bpnjensen October 18th 04 04:17 PM

"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote in message ...
"Miracle710" wrote in message
news:1097992521.ae/uNaKFA9ByhCaktFMFtA@teranews...
Is it true that Voice of America is forbidden by US law to broadcast
domestically?



Not just the VOA. The law specifically excludes all SW broadcast stations
from broadcasting to a primary audience in the US.



Maybe so - but practically, all the religious broadcasters and most of
the rest of the independents are broadcasting to a home audience.
Nothing against religious broadcasters, but their ops make a mockery
of the law, such as it is.

Bruce Jensen

Frank Dresser October 18th 04 06:04 PM


"bpnjensen" wrote in message
m...


Maybe so - but practically, all the religious broadcasters and most of
the rest of the independents are broadcasting to a home audience.
Nothing against religious broadcasters, but their ops make a mockery
of the law, such as it is.

Bruce Jensen


It's like the speed limit. The real speed limit isn't always what's on the
sign, it's what the cops enforce. The real rules for SW broadcasters are
what the FCC enforces. If the FCC wanted to strictly enforce the law or
their own rules, they could start trying to do so right now.

Most of the rules for the SW broadcasters aren't really laws, as in laws
passed by Congress and signed by the President, but FCC regulations. The
FCC gave up trying to enforce their fairness doctrine years ago, and I doubt
they want to open up that political speech can 'o worms again.

Frank Dresser



RHF October 19th 04 01:10 PM

= = = (bpnjensen) wrote in message
= = = om...

"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote in message
...
"Miracle710" wrote in message
news:1097992521.ae/uNaKFA9ByhCaktFMFtA@teranews...
Is it true that Voice of America is forbidden by US law to broadcast
domestically?



Not just the VOA. The law specifically excludes all SW broadcast stations
from broadcasting to a primary audience in the US.



Maybe so - but practically, all the religious broadcasters and most of
the rest of the independents are broadcasting to a home audience.
Nothing against religious broadcasters, but their ops make a mockery
of the law, such as it is.

Bruce Jensen



BPNJ,

Maybe one of the first things that 'president' John 'ff' Kerry
will do is to shut down the Eternal Word Television Network
(EWTN) Global Catholic Shortwave Radio. EWTN 'claims'it is
the largest religious media network in the world.

EWTN "Shortwave Radio" Frequency Guide:
http://www.ewtn.com/radio/freq.htm

After all EWTN does 'preach' Against Abortion
http://www.ewtn.com/general/press/pr_detail.asp?id=1
on the EWTN Worldwide Shortwave Radio Station

EWTN Launches Election 2004, The Catholic Vote
http://www.ewtn.com/general/press/pr_detail.asp?id=116
Note: The Critical Question for EWTN Listeners is:
What to Expect from 'our' Elected Officials ?
- "We will be focused on specifically preparing Catholics
to take a responsible part in the upcoming elections.
We were recently in Rome and interviewed Vatican officials,
asking them about what the Vatican and the Holy Father say
about the duty to vote, the priority of life issues."

jm2cw ~ RHF
..

bpnjensen October 19th 04 09:39 PM

(RHF) wrote in message . com...
= = =
(bpnjensen) wrote in message
= = = om...

"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote in message
...
"Miracle710" wrote in message
news:1097992521.ae/uNaKFA9ByhCaktFMFtA@teranews...
Is it true that Voice of America is forbidden by US law to broadcast
domestically?


Not just the VOA. The law specifically excludes all SW broadcast stations
from broadcasting to a primary audience in the US.



Maybe so - but practically, all the religious broadcasters and most of
the rest of the independents are broadcasting to a home audience.
Nothing against religious broadcasters, but their ops make a mockery
of the law, such as it is.

Bruce Jensen



BPNJ,

Maybe one of the first things that 'president' John 'ff' Kerry
will do is to shut down the Eternal Word Television Network
(EWTN) Global Catholic Shortwave Radio. EWTN 'claims'it is
the largest religious media network in the world.


Oh, now come on - these guys were in full swing under Clinton too, and
he did nothing to shut them down...I agree that there are differences
between the candidates, but they are just not that extreme (especially
with GWB having become the big spender with my kids' money).

Back to the US gang, personally, my only gripe is that they get in the
way of the the DX and foreign stations I'd rather hear. I'm tired of
enjoying the delightful broadcasts from the Congo for 15 minutes on
5985 (at least I think that's what this station is) and then having
Family Radio swallow them alive at 0500. However, at least Family
Radio programs several foreign language broadcasts, unlike Gene Scott
who seems to know no other language.

Bruce Jensen
************

EWTN "Shortwave Radio" Frequency Guide:
http://www.ewtn.com/radio/freq.htm

After all EWTN does 'preach' Against Abortion
http://www.ewtn.com/general/press/pr_detail.asp?id=1
on the EWTN Worldwide Shortwave Radio Station

EWTN Launches Election 2004, The Catholic Vote
http://www.ewtn.com/general/press/pr_detail.asp?id=116
Note: The Critical Question for EWTN Listeners is:
What to Expect from 'our' Elected Officials ?
- "We will be focused on specifically preparing Catholics
to take a responsible part in the upcoming elections.
We were recently in Rome and interviewed Vatican officials,
asking them about what the Vatican and the Holy Father say
about the duty to vote, the priority of life issues."

jm2cw ~ RHF
.


Steve Silverwood October 27th 04 03:56 PM

In article 1097992521.ae/uNaKFA9ByhCaktFMFtA@teranews,
says...
Is it true that Voice of America is forbidden by US law to broadcast
domestically?


As you've already heard, it's true that VOA is prohibited from
broadcasting to the domestic market as a target audience. It is not
prohibited for their signal to be =heard= within the United States,
though.

They do still enjoy hearing from domestic listeners, and last I heard
will acknowledge reception reports. One of the local SWL clubs has even
had visits from people at the Delano, CA broadcasting site in the past,
although that's been a while back.

--

-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:


dxAce October 27th 04 04:05 PM



Steve Silverwood wrote:

In article 1097992521.ae/uNaKFA9ByhCaktFMFtA@teranews,
says...
Is it true that Voice of America is forbidden by US law to broadcast
domestically?


As you've already heard, it's true that VOA is prohibited from
broadcasting to the domestic market as a target audience. It is not
prohibited for their signal to be =heard= within the United States,
though.

They do still enjoy hearing from domestic listeners, and last I heard
will acknowledge reception reports. One of the local SWL clubs has even
had visits from people at the Delano, CA broadcasting site in the past,
although that's been a while back.


Yes indeed, I've never had a problem getting a QSL from the VOA. Got a lot of
'em here too.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



bpnjensen October 28th 04 05:09 PM

dxAce wrote in message ...
Steve Silverwood wrote:

In article 1097992521.ae/uNaKFA9ByhCaktFMFtA@teranews,
says...
Is it true that Voice of America is forbidden by US law to broadcast
domestically?


As you've already heard, it's true that VOA is prohibited from
broadcasting to the domestic market as a target audience. It is not
prohibited for their signal to be =heard= within the United States,
though.

They do still enjoy hearing from domestic listeners, and last I heard
will acknowledge reception reports. One of the local SWL clubs has even
had visits from people at the Delano, CA broadcasting site in the past,
although that's been a while back.


Yes indeed, I've never had a problem getting a QSL from the VOA. Got a lot of
'em here too.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


This brings a question to my mind - if one hears and QSLs a relay of,
say, VOA from a place like, say, Thailand or Botswana, does that
"officially" count as a country heard and QSLed, or is it just another
QSL from VOA? If you hear China Radio International only on its Cuban
relay, have you heard China or Cuba? In many cases, like VOA in
Botswana, RNW in Madagascar or a pile of others like BBC or France,
the relays are the strongest and easiest signals to catch, and
frequently the only ones in a language that we provincial Yanks can
understand...

I realize that there may be varying opinions on this one, but I would
weigh the opinions of experienced DXers with some additional
gravity...

I haven't gotten a QSL since, and I'm thinkingit might be fun to start
a new album :-).

Thanks,
Bruce Jensen

dxAce October 28th 04 06:03 PM



bpnjensen wrote:

dxAce wrote in message ...
Steve Silverwood wrote:

In article 1097992521.ae/uNaKFA9ByhCaktFMFtA@teranews,
says...
Is it true that Voice of America is forbidden by US law to broadcast
domestically?

As you've already heard, it's true that VOA is prohibited from
broadcasting to the domestic market as a target audience. It is not
prohibited for their signal to be =heard= within the United States,
though.

They do still enjoy hearing from domestic listeners, and last I heard
will acknowledge reception reports. One of the local SWL clubs has even
had visits from people at the Delano, CA broadcasting site in the past,
although that's been a while back.


Yes indeed, I've never had a problem getting a QSL from the VOA. Got a lot of
'em here too.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


This brings a question to my mind - if one hears and QSLs a relay of,
say, VOA from a place like, say, Thailand or Botswana, does that
"officially" count as a country heard and QSLed, or is it just another
QSL from VOA? If you hear China Radio International only on its Cuban
relay, have you heard China or Cuba? In many cases, like VOA in
Botswana, RNW in Madagascar or a pile of others like BBC or France,
the relays are the strongest and easiest signals to catch, and
frequently the only ones in a language that we provincial Yanks can
understand...

I realize that there may be varying opinions on this one, but I would
weigh the opinions of experienced DXers with some additional
gravity...

I haven't gotten a QSL since, and I'm thinkingit might be fun to start
a new album :-).

Thanks,
Bruce Jensen


Two words: Transmitter site.

http://www.anarc.org/naswa/list/

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



Steve Silverwood November 3rd 04 01:45 AM

In article ,
says...
This brings a question to my mind - if one hears and QSLs a relay of,
say, VOA from a place like, say, Thailand or Botswana, does that
"officially" count as a country heard and QSLed, or is it just another
QSL from VOA? If you hear China Radio International only on its Cuban
relay, have you heard China or Cuba? In many cases, like VOA in
Botswana, RNW in Madagascar or a pile of others like BBC or France,
the relays are the strongest and easiest signals to catch, and
frequently the only ones in a language that we provincial Yanks can
understand...

I realize that there may be varying opinions on this one, but I would
weigh the opinions of experienced DXers with some additional
gravity...

I haven't gotten a QSL since, and I'm thinkingit might be fun to start
a new album :-).


It all depends on how you want to count it. I don't know if there are
any DXing awards for the SWL hobby, like there are for ham radio (DXCC,
etc.), but if you're looking for credit for such an award, it would all
depend on the rules for that award. Other than that, count it however
you want to. It's your hobby, do whatever makes you happy.

--

-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:


dxAce November 3rd 04 06:27 AM



Steve Silverwood wrote:

In article ,
says...
This brings a question to my mind - if one hears and QSLs a relay of,
say, VOA from a place like, say, Thailand or Botswana, does that
"officially" count as a country heard and QSLed, or is it just another
QSL from VOA? If you hear China Radio International only on its Cuban
relay, have you heard China or Cuba? In many cases, like VOA in
Botswana, RNW in Madagascar or a pile of others like BBC or France,
the relays are the strongest and easiest signals to catch, and
frequently the only ones in a language that we provincial Yanks can
understand...

I realize that there may be varying opinions on this one, but I would
weigh the opinions of experienced DXers with some additional
gravity...

I haven't gotten a QSL since, and I'm thinkingit might be fun to start
a new album :-).


It all depends on how you want to count it. I don't know if there are
any DXing awards for the SWL hobby, like there are for ham radio (DXCC,
etc.), but if you're looking for credit for such an award, it would all
depend on the rules for that award. Other than that, count it however
you want to. It's your hobby, do whatever makes you happy.


Join up with NASWA and there are lots of awards

Download the Country List, and the awards program is in there also.

http://www.anarc.org/naswa/list/

dxAce
Michigan
USA




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