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Gray Shockley November 6th 04 05:33 PM

On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 4:25, JuLiE Dxer [aka SpamBoy] wrote:

LETS KEEP THIS GROUP DEVOTED TO SHORT WAVE, OK?



Please quit SPAmming this newsgroup.

Your rudeness and immaturity have been proved quite well by your SPAM.

You've a very naughty, very immature young boy and you should have your
gastro-intestinal tract and everything related to it washed out with No Tears
Baby Soap.


Please take your anti-verizon.net crusade elsewhere.


Gray Shockley



Ian Smith November 6th 04 10:29 PM

"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Ian Smith" wrote:
| Some of our food does tend to be a bit on the unhealthy side,

like
| "fish and chips" for example. One of my favourites, but has to be

done
| right.

Cold and greasy? No, thanks. But, served hot and fresh, I think
I would take that over almost anything.

And the Scots, too, have some wondrous culinary traditions.

I believe all Scottish food is based on a dare....


Fish and chips (aka "fish supper" in Scotland) - hot, greasy, and
definately fresh potatoes (not frozen), crisp batter on haddock. Salt
and lots of vinegar. Topped with a generous splodge of "HP Brown
Sauce". Sometimes a "side order" of mushy peas!

Based on a dare? Looking at haggis, you could be right!

Oh, and violently swinging back on-topic; the only shortwave
stations transmitting from Scotland I know of have been Sunday-morning
pirates eg. Radio Freedom International (have QSL). But I stand to be
corrected.

As a matter of interest, does Minnesota currently have any
shortwave transmissions?





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JuLiE Dxer November 7th 04 05:17 PM



STOP YOUR OFF TOPIC POLITICAL SPAM IN HERE

Did I type

































???


ok.. just checking


STOP YOUR POLITICAL OFF TOPIC SPAM IN HERE
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 17:28:50 GMT, "Stephen M.H. Lawrence"
wrote:


"JuLiE Dxer" wrote in message
.. .
|
| I wouldn't worry too much about that Brit food as most Americans will
| find a way to overeat any type of food and bloat up largely...
|
|
| How's Lana?
|
| LETS KEEP THIS GROUP DEVOTED TO SHORT WAVE, OK?

Folks, this is an example of JuLIE's abusive behavior.

Let's put this to an end - she's brought my family into
her netKKKopping, and enough's enough.

Send your complaint to:



73,

Steve Lawrence
KAØPMD
Burnsville, Minnesota

"If a man wants his dreams to come true then he must wake up."
- Anonymous


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JuLiE Dxer November 7th 04 05:17 PM



On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 17:28:50 GMT, "Stephen M.H. Lawrence"
wrote:


"JuLiE Dxer" wrote in message
.. .
|
| I wouldn't worry too much about that Brit food as most Americans will
| find a way to overeat any type of food and bloat up largely...
|
|
| How's Lana?
|
| LETS KEEP THIS GROUP DEVOTED TO SHORT WAVE, OK?

Folks, this is an example of JuLIE's abusive behavior.

Let's put this to an end - she's brought my family into
her netKKKopping, and enough's enough.

Send your complaint to:



73,

Steve Lawrence
KAØPMD
Burnsville, Minnesota




Damnations, you're a blatent idiot. By the way, how's Lana?


Radio Flyer November 7th 04 11:53 PM

Abusive and profane post forwarded to
"JuLiE Dxer" wrote in message
...


On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 17:28:50 GMT, "Stephen M.H. Lawrence"
wrote:


"JuLiE Dxer" wrote in message
. ..
|
| I wouldn't worry too much about that Brit food as most Americans will
| find a way to overeat any type of food and bloat up largely...
|
|
| How's Lana?
|
| LETS KEEP THIS GROUP DEVOTED TO SHORT WAVE, OK?

Folks, this is an example of JuLIE's abusive behavior.

Let's put this to an end - she's brought my family into
her netKKKopping, and enough's enough.

Send your complaint to:



73,

Steve Lawrence
KAØPMD
Burnsville, Minnesota




Damnations, you're a blatent idiot. By the way, how's Lana?




Stephen M.H. Lawrence November 8th 04 12:30 AM


"Ian Smith" wrote in message
. ..
| "Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message
| ink.net...
|
| "Ian Smith" wrote:
| | Some of our food does tend to be a bit on the unhealthy side,
| like
| | "fish and chips" for example. One of my favourites, but has to be
| done
| | right.
|
| Cold and greasy? No, thanks. But, served hot and fresh, I think
| I would take that over almost anything.
|
| And the Scots, too, have some wondrous culinary traditions.
|
| I believe all Scottish food is based on a dare....
|
|
| Fish and chips (aka "fish supper" in Scotland) - hot, greasy, and
| definately fresh potatoes (not frozen), crisp batter on haddock. Salt
| and lots of vinegar. Topped with a generous splodge of "HP Brown
| Sauce". Sometimes a "side order" of mushy peas!
|
| Based on a dare? Looking at haggis, you could be right!
|
| Oh, and violently swinging back on-topic; the only shortwave
| stations transmitting from Scotland I know of have been Sunday-morning
| pirates eg. Radio Freedom International (have QSL). But I stand to be
| corrected.
|
| As a matter of interest, does Minnesota currently have any
| shortwave transmissions?

I may be wrong, but there was, at one time in the 70s, a station which
identified itself as WONS ("snow" spelled backwards). This pirate operation
went on the air only during blizzards, as the operators of said station
believed
the FCC engineers would tend to defer their DF activities in that sort of
weather.

Beyond that, barring a number of FEMA and federal agency operations (and the
obvious amateur activity), there are no HF broadcast operations in
Minnesota.

However, in my conversations with a number of MW broadcast engineers here,
you may, at some point this winter, be able to hear a number of MW
broadcasts
from the Twin Cities. My best catch, to date, is Kavala, Greece, on 792
(from
here in the Midwest), using a 4 - foot *unamplified* loop, so, if I can do
that in a
high - noise environment, anyone can, I suppose.

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, Minnesota


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John Barnard November 8th 04 06:31 AM

I seem to remember that Voice of the Voyager broadcast from Crystal, Minnesota.
I used to hear them regularly when I lived in Eastern Ontario.

Good DX

John Barnard

"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote:

"Ian Smith" wrote in message
. ..
| "Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message
| ink.net...
|
| "Ian Smith" wrote:
| | Some of our food does tend to be a bit on the unhealthy side,
| like
| | "fish and chips" for example. One of my favourites, but has to be
| done
| | right.
|
| Cold and greasy? No, thanks. But, served hot and fresh, I think
| I would take that over almost anything.
|
| And the Scots, too, have some wondrous culinary traditions.
|
| I believe all Scottish food is based on a dare....
|
|
| Fish and chips (aka "fish supper" in Scotland) - hot, greasy, and
| definately fresh potatoes (not frozen), crisp batter on haddock. Salt
| and lots of vinegar. Topped with a generous splodge of "HP Brown
| Sauce". Sometimes a "side order" of mushy peas!
|
| Based on a dare? Looking at haggis, you could be right!
|
| Oh, and violently swinging back on-topic; the only shortwave
| stations transmitting from Scotland I know of have been Sunday-morning
| pirates eg. Radio Freedom International (have QSL). But I stand to be
| corrected.
|
| As a matter of interest, does Minnesota currently have any
| shortwave transmissions?

I may be wrong, but there was, at one time in the 70s, a station which
identified itself as WONS ("snow" spelled backwards). This pirate operation
went on the air only during blizzards, as the operators of said station
believed
the FCC engineers would tend to defer their DF activities in that sort of
weather.

Beyond that, barring a number of FEMA and federal agency operations (and the
obvious amateur activity), there are no HF broadcast operations in
Minnesota.

However, in my conversations with a number of MW broadcast engineers here,
you may, at some point this winter, be able to hear a number of MW
broadcasts
from the Twin Cities. My best catch, to date, is Kavala, Greece, on 792
(from
here in the Midwest), using a 4 - foot *unamplified* loop, so, if I can do
that in a
high - noise environment, anyone can, I suppose.

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, Minnesota

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Ian Smith November 9th 04 01:00 AM

"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Ian Smith" wrote in message
. ..
| "Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message
| ink.net...
|
| "Ian Smith" wrote:
| | Some of our food does tend to be a bit on the unhealthy

side,
| like
| | "fish and chips" for example. One of my favourites, but has to

be
| done
| | right.
|
| Cold and greasy? No, thanks. But, served hot and fresh, I

think
| I would take that over almost anything.
|
| And the Scots, too, have some wondrous culinary traditions.
|
| I believe all Scottish food is based on a dare....
|
|
| Fish and chips (aka "fish supper" in Scotland) - hot, greasy,

and
| definately fresh potatoes (not frozen), crisp batter on haddock.

Salt
| and lots of vinegar. Topped with a generous splodge of "HP Brown
| Sauce". Sometimes a "side order" of mushy peas!
|
| Based on a dare? Looking at haggis, you could be right!
|
| Oh, and violently swinging back on-topic; the only shortwave
| stations transmitting from Scotland I know of have been

Sunday-morning
| pirates eg. Radio Freedom International (have QSL). But I stand to

be
| corrected.
|
| As a matter of interest, does Minnesota currently have any
| shortwave transmissions?

I may be wrong, but there was, at one time in the 70s, a station

which
identified itself as WONS ("snow" spelled backwards). This pirate

operation
went on the air only during blizzards, as the operators of said

station
believed
the FCC engineers would tend to defer their DF activities in that

sort of
weather.

Beyond that, barring a number of FEMA and federal agency operations

(and the
obvious amateur activity), there are no HF broadcast operations in
Minnesota.

However, in my conversations with a number of MW broadcast engineers

here,
you may, at some point this winter, be able to hear a number of MW
broadcasts
from the Twin Cities. My best catch, to date, is Kavala, Greece, on

792
(from
here in the Midwest), using a 4 - foot *unamplified* loop, so, if I

can do
that in a
high - noise environment, anyone can, I suppose.

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, Minnesota


Thanks for that, Steve. Great catch, Greece on AM. You may be
interested to know that, in the 80's/early 90's (in Scotland), caught
quite a few AM stations from the US, Canada, and South America.
Remember (gleefully) counting a total of 120 for US/Canada, though my
efforts were by no means exceptional. The strongest ones were from the
east coast, but managed a few further west, including KMOX St.Louis
(1120). Don't think I managed Minnesota, but may give the whole thing
a try again this winter. Used to have an amplified loop with positive
feedback. Was able to peak weak carriers right out in front of strong
ones. Need to rebuild that loop again.

Some people occasionally go on a "DX-pedition" to the north-west
coast of Scotland, at Sheigra. Chosen for its isolation from the
electrical grid and good locale for the setup of MW beverage antennae.
They get quite a number of great results -

http://www.users.waitrose.com/~bdxc/articles.html

Looks like KFAN 1130 Minnesota might be a good one to go for!

Of course, you have the advantage of not having to stay up as late
as I have, to get the trans-Atlantic DX. On the other hand, we get to
enjoy the "great" climate here. Well, at least it doesn't go "30
below" like over there. That would bother even a hardened Scotsman.
:-)





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JuLiE Dxer November 9th 04 02:07 AM

This isn't M3MCR is it?

Stephen M.H. Lawrence November 9th 04 03:37 AM


"Ian Smith" wrote:

| Thanks for that, Steve. Great catch, Greece on AM. You may be
| interested to know that, in the 80's/early 90's (in Scotland), caught
| quite a few AM stations from the US, Canada, and South America.
| Remember (gleefully) counting a total of 120 for US/Canada, though my
| efforts were by no means exceptional. The strongest ones were from the
| east coast, but managed a few further west, including KMOX St.Louis
| (1120). Don't think I managed Minnesota, but may give the whole thing
| a try again this winter. Used to have an amplified loop with positive
| feedback. Was able to peak weak carriers right out in front of strong
| ones. Need to rebuild that loop again.

I don't know how much space you've got, Ian (I live in an apartment,
myself), but I would highly recommend a large - aperture loop antenna.
I have a couple of the NRC publications, and would be glad to share
them with you. In my experience, most of the amplification schemes
I've used introduced quite a bit of noise into the signal, so that was a
setback.

| Some people occasionally go on a "DX-pedition" to the north-west
| coast of Scotland, at Sheigra. Chosen for its isolation from the
| electrical grid and good locale for the setup of MW beverage antennae.
| They get quite a number of great results -
|
| http://www.users.waitrose.com/~bdxc/articles.html

I have that site bookmarked, and can only say that I am looking forward
to my next trip back to Nebraska (In Spring, perhaps) to try my hand at
using beverage antennas (as opposed to using beverages; that's another
story and requires extensive refrigeration!).

| Looks like KFAN 1130 Minnesota might be a good one to go for!

You know, Ian, I've been cooking up a scheme, maybe getting on #SWL
or another Instant Messaging program, and using that for communicating
DX catches. Such a thing is also really useful for comparing "catches." I
remember fondly chatting in ICQ with Alf Ardal, a DXer in Norway with
a respectable beverage or two (or three), and verifying that he was, indeed,
hearing 1620 from Omaha (another sports talk outlet). KFAN is actually
a bit of a pest - I live about 3 miles from the transmitter site, and if
you'd
like, I can send some pics of the antenna system. It's located in a bog
along the Minnesota River, East of Shakopee, Minnesota.

| Of course, you have the advantage of not having to stay up as late
| as I have, to get the trans-Atlantic DX. On the other hand, we get to
| enjoy the "great" climate here. Well, at least it doesn't go "30
| below" like over there. That would bother even a hardened Scotsman.
| :-)

Snow builds character. Actually, I've camped in blizzards. When I
relate that story to my wife, she rolls her eyes and gives me "the look."

Let me know if you'd like a copy of my NRC books - I've used them as
far as I can at present.

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, Minnesota

"If a man wants his dreams to come true then he must wake up."
- Anonymous


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