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Ann Coulter on BBC
On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 15:51:19 -0500, "T. Early"
wrote: Nixon inherited what started as a regional issue that Democrat Kennedy escalated and Democrat Johnson turned into a war. In short, it was a Democrat war first and foremost. Yes, Kennedy certainly played a role in escalation, but it began with Eisenhower. Although, Eisenhower wisely refused to bail out the French, under Eisenhower in 1956, when the French leave Vietnam, the US Military Assistance Advisor Group (MAAG) assumes responsibility, from the French, for training South Vietnamese forces. Historians, of which Ann Coulter is not one, date this as the beginning of the slippery slope. Skipping past parsing arguments and what "is" is, I'll offer what is only an OPINION: Ann Coulter is nothing but part of the dancing bread & circus act for the masses, while we risk repeating history, creeping from a republic toward an empire, where the superfluous masses need to be occupied and entertained. dxace was right in at least one respect, my bringing her up is only inviting distraction into further meaningless entertainment. Bradley B. |
"Bradley B." wrote: On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 15:51:19 -0500, "T. Early" wrote: Nixon inherited what started as a regional issue that Democrat Kennedy escalated and Democrat Johnson turned into a war. In short, it was a Democrat war first and foremost. Yes, Kennedy certainly played a role in escalation, but it began with Eisenhower. Although, Eisenhower wisely refused to bail out the French, under Eisenhower in 1956, when the French leave Vietnam, the US Military Assistance Advisor Group (MAAG) assumes responsibility, from the French, for training South Vietnamese forces. Historians, of which Ann Coulter is not one, date this as the beginning of the slippery slope. Skipping past parsing arguments and what "is" is, I'll offer what is only an OPINION: Ann Coulter is nothing but part of the dancing bread & circus act for the masses, while we risk repeating history, creeping from a republic toward an empire, where the superfluous masses need to be occupied and entertained. dxace was right in at least one respect, my bringing her up is only inviting distraction into further meaningless entertainment. Hey, I'm usually right in almost all respects, 'tard boy. It's only defrocked PhD's and West Coast Liberal's who don't believe that, by the way. dxAce Michigan USA |
dxAce wrote: "Bradley B." wrote: On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 15:51:19 -0500, "T. Early" wrote: Nixon inherited what started as a regional issue that Democrat Kennedy escalated and Democrat Johnson turned into a war. In short, it was a Democrat war first and foremost. Yes, Kennedy certainly played a role in escalation, but it began with Eisenhower. Although, Eisenhower wisely refused to bail out the French, under Eisenhower in 1956, when the French leave Vietnam, the US Military Assistance Advisor Group (MAAG) assumes responsibility, from the French, for training South Vietnamese forces. Historians, of which Ann Coulter is not one, date this as the beginning of the slippery slope. Skipping past parsing arguments and what "is" is, I'll offer what is only an OPINION: Ann Coulter is nothing but part of the dancing bread & circus act for the masses, while we risk repeating history, creeping from a republic toward an empire, where the superfluous masses need to be occupied and entertained. dxace was right in at least one respect, my bringing her up is only inviting distraction into further meaningless entertainment. Hey, I'm usually right in almost all respects, 'tard boy. It's only defrocked PhD's and West Coast Liberal's who don't believe that, by the way. Dang, I left out Canadian 'tard boys too... Oh well, it's been a long post election day! dxAce Michigan USA |
On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 16:19:15 -0500, dxAce wrote:
Hey, I'm usually right in almost all respects, 'tard boy. It's only defrocked PhD's and West Coast Liberal's who don't believe that, by the way. dxAce Michigan USA Sigh. He rolls right past the irony, and to prove his gift of the gab, all he can come up with is " 'tard boy ". Tell me ace, do you coat yourself with mineral oil before you take out the magnifying glass, look for that cortex of yours, and beat it off? What a waste. |
"Bradley B." wrote: On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 16:19:15 -0500, dxAce wrote: Hey, I'm usually right in almost all respects, 'tard boy. It's only defrocked PhD's and West Coast Liberal's who don't believe that, by the way. dxAce Michigan USA Sigh. He rolls right past the irony, and to prove his gift of the gab, all he can come up with is " 'tard boy ". Tell me ace, do you coat yourself with mineral oil before you take out the magnifying glass, look for that cortex of yours, and beat it off? What a waste. Go tote your portable, 'tard, and dream of the dx the big boys hear. dxAce Michigan USA |
"Bradley B." wrote in message ... On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 15:51:19 -0500, "T. Early" wrote: Nixon inherited what started as a regional issue that Democrat Kennedy escalated and Democrat Johnson turned into a war. In short, it was a Democrat war first and foremost. Yes, Kennedy certainly played a role in escalation, but it began with Eisenhower. Although, Eisenhower wisely refused to bail out the French, under Eisenhower in 1956, when the French leave Vietnam, the US Military Assistance Advisor Group (MAAG) assumes responsibility, from the French, for training South Vietnamese forces. Historians, of which Ann Coulter is not one, date this as the beginning of the slippery slope. Skipping past parsing arguments and what "is" is, I'll offer what is only an OPINION: Ann Coulter is nothing but part of the dancing bread & circus act for the masses, while we risk repeating history, creeping from a republic toward an empire, where the superfluous masses need to be occupied and entertained. dxace was right in at least one respect, my bringing her up is only inviting distraction into further meaningless entertainment. That may well be, and no doubt you regard the likes of Michael Moore and most of Hollywood as part of the same circus. It also doesn't change the fact that you initiated a thread on this matter, provided a number of instances that allegedly made her out to be factually challenged, but, when questioned, weren't inclined to go any further into your own interpretation of her remarks, other than a quibble about a "slippery slope." So it would appear that we can rest easy that Wilson and Truman were Democrats and nothing Coulter said was inconsistent with that. |
On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 16:34:17 -0500, dxAce wrote:
"Bradley B." wrote: Tell me ace, do you coat yourself with mineral oil before you take out the magnifying glass, look for that cortex of yours, and beat it off? What a waste. Go tote your portable, 'tard, and dream of the dx the big boys hear. dxAce Michigan USA Whoaaa, dude, you got me now. You mean yours is BIGGER than mine? I guess you got me, now. I better take my toys and go away. I'll stop here so you can have the last word. Bradley B. |
On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 16:36:59 -0500, "T. Early"
wrote: "Bradley B." wrote in message .. . On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 15:51:19 -0500, "T. Early" wrote: Nixon inherited what started as a regional issue that Democrat Kennedy escalated and Democrat Johnson turned into a war. In short, it was a Democrat war first and foremost. Yes, Kennedy certainly played a role in escalation, but it began with Eisenhower. Although, Eisenhower wisely refused to bail out the French, under Eisenhower in 1956, when the French leave Vietnam, the US Military Assistance Advisor Group (MAAG) assumes responsibility, from the French, for training South Vietnamese forces. Historians, of which Ann Coulter is not one, date this as the beginning of the slippery slope. Skipping past parsing arguments and what "is" is, I'll offer what is only an OPINION: Ann Coulter is nothing but part of the dancing bread & circus act for the masses, while we risk repeating history, creeping from a republic toward an empire, where the superfluous masses need to be occupied and entertained. dxace was right in at least one respect, my bringing her up is only inviting distraction into further meaningless entertainment. That may well be, and no doubt you regard the likes of Michael Moore and most of Hollywood as part of the same circus. It also doesn't change the fact that you initiated a thread on this matter, provided a number of instances that allegedly made her out to be factually challenged, but, when questioned, weren't inclined to go any further into your own interpretation of her remarks, other than a quibble about a "slippery slope." So it would appear that we can rest easy that Wilson and Truman were Democrats and nothing Coulter said was inconsistent with that. I agree with you wholeheartedly about Michael Moore and most of Hollywood. Look, you wanted to pin Vietnam on Kennedy. I pointed you to a fact that many have forgotten, which is that the containment strategy in Viet Nam began with Eisenhower, who used our military and the CIA to prop up a repressive and corrupt regime (Diem). You and I disagree that this is quibbling. I thought it spoke to your point of Kennedy's responsibility for Viet Nam. As for the rest of your argument, which is that because I have not argued with you point by point, this proves me wrong about Coulter and her lack of grasp with honesty of intention or truth. I've offered a point of view based on what I heard and some facts that happen to share the extensive weight of recorded history -- something which in my opinion, Ann Coulter has never burdened herself with. Anyway, without the transcript from the BBC, which I won't take time to pursue, I have no other recourse than to offer what I heard Coulter say, and you are in your full rights to make the challenge personal and say I made it up, I'm full of ****, etc. OK. All you and I can end up doing is quibbling, both ways. I've offered an observation, and I'm choosing to let it rest here. Best, Bradley B. |
Bradley B. wrote:
Yes, Kennedy certainly played a role in escalation, but it began with Eisenhower. Although, Eisenhower wisely refused to bail out the French, under Eisenhower in 1956, when the French leave Vietnam, the US Military Assistance Advisor Group (MAAG) assumes responsibility, from the French, for training South Vietnamese forces. Historians, of which Ann Coulter is not one, date this as the beginning of the slippery slope. Revisionist historians, perhaps. Eisenhower did what he had to do to honor treaties. Kennedy escalated. Johnson really escalated. Nixon ended the war. -- "Can't we all just learn to live together?" -- Rodney King '***THWAP***' -- 100,000,000 million minds reacting in synchrony |
"clifto" wrote in message ... Bradley B. wrote: Yes, Kennedy certainly played a role in escalation, but it began with Eisenhower. Although, Eisenhower wisely refused to bail out the French, under Eisenhower in 1956, when the French leave Vietnam, the US Military Assistance Advisor Group (MAAG) assumes responsibility, from the French, for training South Vietnamese forces. Historians, of which Ann Coulter is not one, date this as the beginning of the slippery slope. Revisionist historians, perhaps. Eisenhower did what he had to do to honor treaties. Kennedy escalated. Johnson really escalated. Nixon ended the war. Nixon ended the war after another 6 years of escalation.... 1968-1974... the Nixon years.. |
"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote in message ... "clifto" wrote in message ... Bradley B. wrote: Yes, Kennedy certainly played a role in escalation, but it began with Eisenhower. Although, Eisenhower wisely refused to bail out the French, under Eisenhower in 1956, when the French leave Vietnam, the US Military Assistance Advisor Group (MAAG) assumes responsibility, from the French, for training South Vietnamese forces. Historians, of which Ann Coulter is not one, date this as the beginning of the slippery slope. Revisionist historians, perhaps. Eisenhower did what he had to do to honor treaties. Kennedy escalated. Johnson really escalated. Nixon ended the war. Nixon ended the war after another 6 years of escalation.... 1968-1974... the Nixon years.. I don't buy the Nixon/Kissinger claim of a "secret plan" to end the war, but it is a stretch to say that there was escalation under Nixon. http://members.aol.com/warlibrary/vwatl.htm This clearly was LBJ's war for purposes of the point raised by the OP. |
"TeaTime" writes:
snip The problem isn't "simplicity, simplicity, simplicity." The problem is STUPIDITY, STUPIDITY, STUPIDITY. The average 'murrikan is an **anencephalic dolt**. If last night doesn't prove that, then what will? Jimmy Breslin had it right yesterday when he said that only a fool would vote for the Wizard of Ooze. And today you can be 100% CERTAIN that most of the same people who voted for Bush are back to watching Jerry Springer, Bowling and Boozing or tightening lug nuts on tire hubs because they have some big bearded god in the sky who said he'd "take care of them" if they just continue to kiss his ass and send money to Trinity Broadcasting Network...... I fear GREATLY for my country. Please oh please, Usama bin Laden, come and take us now! ! (NOTE: that last comment above was a sarcastic comment for all you knee-jerk anencephalic dolts and "Red State" Bubbas' reading this now) pfhbltttt! I take offense to that. I am a degreed Electrical Engineer, have never watched Jerry Springer (except for the first time which is why I don't watch it), I've never sent a nickel to TBN nor do I watch it, and as a matter of fact, *everyone* knows God has a beard! :-) By the way, you should *always* capitalize the word God and words referring to Him. You seem to think that Republicans are all redneck's but I suppose that is no different than the fact that I think all Democrats are gay, vegetarians, college professors, pot smokers, anti-military Michael Moore lovers. You're just sour that you lost. Why not try and *support* your government instead of bad-mouthing it. It might help you appreciate what you have since you obviously don't understand that and probably have never had to do without. Oh, and the comment about bin Laden really was in poor taste (and my knees didn't even twitch). Cheers! |
"TeaTime" wrote in message groups.com... The problem isn't "simplicity, simplicity, simplicity." The problem is STUPIDITY, STUPIDITY, STUPIDITY. The average 'murrikan is an **anencephalic dolt**. If last night doesn't prove that, then what will? Jimmy Breslin had it right yesterday when he said that only a fool would vote for the Wizard of Ooze. And today you can be 100% CERTAIN that most of the same people who voted for Bush are back to watching Jerry Springer, Bowling and Boozing or tightening lug nuts on tire hubs because they have some big bearded god in the sky who said he'd "take care of them" if they just continue to kiss his ass and send money to Trinity Broadcasting Network...... Classic loony left condescension from a band of hypocrites that loves to style itself as representing the "real people"--that is until it's time to hate monger on the intelligence of the real people. Rather than trying to figure out why folks like you are so universally rejected, the first inclination is to make up another phony newsgroup ID and go foam at the mouth. It's truly ironic to read such idiotic commentary questioning -other's- intelligence. |
TeaTime wrote:
The problem isn't "simplicity, simplicity, simplicity." The problem is STUPIDITY, STUPIDITY, STUPIDITY. The average 'murrikan is an **anencephalic dolt**. Who let Michael Moore in? I fear GREATLY for my country. Just watching that socialism dwindle away bit by bit, eh? -- "Can't we all just learn to live together?" -- Rodney King '***THWAP***' -- 100,000,000 million minds reacting in synchrony |
Brenda Ann Dyer wrote:
"clifto" wrote... Eisenhower did what he had to do to honor treaties. Kennedy escalated. Johnson really escalated. Nixon ended the war. Nixon ended the war after another 6 years of escalation.... 1968-1974... the Nixon years.. Nixon ended the war. No Democrat did that, or even tried. In fact, the Democratically-controlled Congress tried to fsck even that up, causing thousands of deaths and injuries during the pullout. -- "Can't we all just learn to live together?" -- Rodney King '***THWAP***' -- 100,000,000 million minds reacting in synchrony |
T. Early wrote:
This clearly was LBJ's war for purposes of the point raised by the OP. Unquestionably. LBJ planned to use the war as an excuse for massive deficits, but use the deficits to finance his socialist Great Society plans. -- "Can't we all just learn to live together?" -- Rodney King '***THWAP***' -- 100,000,000 million minds reacting in synchrony |
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"JuLiE Dxer" wrote in message ... god god god god god god god god god don't feed the trolls. No you shut up! |
"Brian Hill" wrote in message ... | | "JuLiE Dxer" wrote in message | ... | god god god god god god god god god | | don't feed the trolls. | | | | No you shut up! (laughing) Apparently, the rectal yeast infection is getting her down. 73, -- Steve Lawrence KAØPMD Burnsville, Minnesota "If a man wants his dreams to come true then he must wake up." - Anonymous --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/1/04 |
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 19:23:10 -0600, Stephen M.H. Lawrence wrote
(in message ): "Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "JuLiE Dxer" wrote in message ... god god god god god god god god god don't feed the trolls. No you shut up! (laughing) Apparently, the rectal yeast infection is getting her down. 73, What makes you think that our SPAMmer is female? Gray |
"T. Early" wrote in message ...
"TeaTime" wrote in message groups.com... The problem isn't "simplicity, simplicity, simplicity." The problem is STUPIDITY, STUPIDITY, STUPIDITY. The average 'murrikan is an **anencephalic dolt**. If last night doesn't prove that, then what will? Jimmy Breslin had it right yesterday when he said that only a fool would vote for the Wizard of Ooze. And today you can be 100% CERTAIN that most of the same people who voted for Bush are back to watching Jerry Springer, Bowling and Boozing or tightening lug nuts on tire hubs because they have some big bearded god in the sky who said he'd "take care of them" if they just continue to kiss his ass and send money to Trinity Broadcasting Network...... Classic loony left condescension from a band of hypocrites that loves to style itself as representing the "real people"--that is until it's time to hate monger on the intelligence of the real people. Rather than trying to figure out why folks like you are so universally rejected, the first inclination is to make up another phony newsgroup ID and go foam at the mouth. It's truly ironic to read such idiotic commentary questioning -other's- intelligence. LOL you can be 100% CERTAIN that most of the same people who voted for Kerry are back to watching Jerry Springer, Bowling and Boozing or tightening lug nuts on tire hubs because they have some big bearded god in the sky who said he'd "take care of them" if they just continue to kiss his ass and send money to Trinity Broadcasting Network...... I'll save you the time for the reply: Classic loony right wing condescension from a band of hypocrites that loves to style itself as representing the "real people"--that is until it's time to hate monger on the intelligence of the real people. Rather than trying to figure out why folks like you are so universally rejected, the first inclination is to make up another phony newsgroup ID and go foam at the mouth. It's truly ironic to read such idiotic commentary questioning -other's- intelligence. |
"Gray Shockley" wrote in message .com... | On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 19:23:10 -0600, Stephen M.H. Lawrence wrote | (in message ): | | | "Brian Hill" wrote in message | ... | | "JuLiE Dxer" wrote in message | ... | god god god god god god god god god | | don't feed the trolls. | | | | No you shut up! | | (laughing) | | Apparently, the rectal yeast infection is getting her down. | | 73, | | | | What makes you think that our SPAMmer is female? | | Gray I don't necessarily think she's a female, but she does exhibit the symptoms of PMS on a regular basis. 73, Steve Lawrence KAØPMD Burnsville, Minnesota "If a man wants his dreams to come true then he must wake up." - Anonymous --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/1/04 |
"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message .net... "Brian Hill" wrote in message ... | | "JuLiE Dxer" wrote in message | ... | god god god god god god god god god | | don't feed the trolls. | | | | No you shut up! (laughing) Apparently, the rectal yeast infection is getting her down. 73, -- Steve Lawrence KAØPMD Burnsville, Minnesota LOL! So that's what it is. What a drag! LOL!!!!!!!! -- 73 and good DXing. Brian ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A lot of radios and 100' of rusty wire! Zumbrota, Southern MN Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/ |
"Gray Shockley" wrote in message .com... On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 19:23:10 -0600, Stephen M.H. Lawrence wrote (in message ): "Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "JuLiE Dxer" wrote in message ... god god god god god god god god god don't feed the trolls. No you shut up! (laughing) Apparently, the rectal yeast infection is getting her down. 73, What makes you think that our SPAMmer is female? Gray You can smell her. It's that rectal yeast infection. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! B.H. |
"Brian Edward Hill" wrote: | You can smell her. It's that rectal yeast infection. | LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | | B.H. (belly-laughing) Who's baking bread???? 73, -- Steve Lawrence KAØPMD Burnsville, Minnesota "If a man wants his dreams to come true then he must wake up." - Anonymous --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/1/04 |
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