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Michael wrote:

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Frank White wrote:

Spock WAS using his tricorder as a base; but I agree, it was
a masterful demonstration of scientific acumen.

FW

Spock was trying to make the first mnemonic memory circuit using "stone
knives and bear skins". The episode is called 'City on the Edge of
Forever', written by Harlan Ellison. It's regarded by many as the best
one of the original series.


No question about it. "City One the Edge" It is one of the best, if not
the
best of all the original series episodes. IMO, it is one of the best
Trek
episodes of ANY of the Trek series. It had everything. Good sci-fi
components, great acting, romance, suspense, mystery... I found seeing
Mr.
Spock and Kirk all dressed up in depression era clothing while working to
get the time line fixed up to be uniquely powerful in its dreary yet
hopeful
way. To me that was the most amazing thing about that episode. There
you
had Kirk and Spock that came from a highly advance social and
technological
time of human advancement, all the way back in time to the depression ear
to
save the future of mankind from the hands of nazis with nukes.
It is altogether spooky and surreal when Mr. Spock uses his mnemonic
memory
circuit and tricorder to review the past events and you see the clips of
the
V-2 rocket. To add to all of that, you now have the drama of knowing
that
the alluring and beautiful Edith Keeler, who remains hopeful for the
future
of mankind (Joan Collins), must die to set things right.

I have known people that dont like Trek or Sci-Fi that have watched that
episode and have been affected by it.

Michael

It also has some of the best quotes of any episode. In one scene when
Spock realizes he could have recorded all of earth history from the
tricorder play back, he says succinctly, "I am a fool".


Also... To explain Spocks ears... His "unfortunate accident as a child" "He
accidently got his head caught in a mechanical rice picking machine"

And at the very end of the episode "Lets get the hell out of here"

Michael

"Mark Zenier" wrote in message
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In article SjFjd.75969$E93.50122@clgrps12,
m II wrote:
starman wrote:

Spock was trying to make the first mnemonic memory circuit using "stone
knives and bear skins". The episode is called 'City on the Edge of
Forever', written by Harlan Ellison. It's regarded by many as the best
one of the original series.

I caught an old time radio broadcast a while back. It was a rerun of
a 1950s 'Have Gun Will Travel' (with Richard Boone?). The author was a
little know Gene Roddenberry. To me, that name is so tied to Star Trek
that it was hard associating it with a fifty year old wild west script.

But the original Star Trek was pitched to the executives as "Wagon Train
to the Stars", although a major part of the inspiration seems to have
been Capt. James Cook's expeditions to the south Pacific.



Well, Kirk was patterned after Horatio Hornblower. Maybe Hornblower
was patterned after Cook?

On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 12:46:07 -0600, Mark Zenier wrote
(in message ):

But the original Star Trek was pitched to the executives as "Wagon Train
to the Stars", although a major part of the inspiration seems to have
been Capt. James Cook's expeditions to the south Pacific.


Mark Zenier Washington State resident



Ah, but the resemblance was distant.


The one which has always amused me
is "Bonanza" and "Bonanza in Outer
Space" ["Battlestar Galactica"].


I've never been convinced that they didn't
just re-use old "Bonanza" scripts and
pencil-correct things such as "Ranch"
to "Space Ship" and Little Joe to
whatshisface.


And, then, of course, featuring
Robbie the Robot as in like
Bill's "Tempest".


Gray Shockley
Vicksburg, MS
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(Mark Zenier) wrote in message ...

But the original Star Trek was pitched to the executives as "Wagon Train
to the Stars", although a major part of the inspiration seems to have
been Capt. James Cook's expeditions to the south Pacific.

Mark Zenier Washington State resident

Both shows were equally good to watch; though I liked Wagon Train
more-so when Ward Bond was the wagon master.

Gray Shockley wrote:

On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 12:46:07 -0600, Mark Zenier wrote
(in message ):

But the original Star Trek was pitched to the executives as "Wagon Train
to the Stars", although a major part of the inspiration seems to have
been Capt. James Cook's expeditions to the south Pacific.


Mark Zenier Washington State resident


Ah, but the resemblance was distant.

The one which has always amused me
is "Bonanza" and "Bonanza in Outer
Space" ["Battlestar Galactica"].

I've never been convinced that they didn't
just re-use old "Bonanza" scripts and
pencil-correct things such as "Ranch"
to "Space Ship" and Little Joe to
whatshisface.

And, then, of course, featuring
Robbie the Robot as in like
Bill's "Tempest".

Robbie got recycled several times for movies and sci-fi shows. They
changed some of his hardware each time to make him look like a new
creation, but the geeks knew it was him.


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Michael wrote:

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Michael wrote:

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Frank White wrote:

Spock WAS using his tricorder as a base; but I agree, it was
a masterful demonstration of scientific acumen.

FW

Spock was trying to make the first mnemonic memory circuit using "stone
knives and bear skins". The episode is called 'City on the Edge of
Forever', written by Harlan Ellison. It's regarded by many as the best
one of the original series.


No question about it. "City One the Edge" It is one of the best, if not
the
best of all the original series episodes. IMO, it is one of the best
Trek
episodes of ANY of the Trek series. It had everything. Good sci-fi
components, great acting, romance, suspense, mystery... I found seeing
Mr.
Spock and Kirk all dressed up in depression era clothing while working to
get the time line fixed up to be uniquely powerful in its dreary yet
hopeful
way. To me that was the most amazing thing about that episode. There
you
had Kirk and Spock that came from a highly advance social and
technological
time of human advancement, all the way back in time to the depression ear
to
save the future of mankind from the hands of nazis with nukes.
It is altogether spooky and surreal when Mr. Spock uses his mnemonic
memory
circuit and tricorder to review the past events and you see the clips of
the
V-2 rocket. To add to all of that, you now have the drama of knowing
that
the alluring and beautiful Edith Keeler, who remains hopeful for the
future
of mankind (Joan Collins), must die to set things right.

I have known people that dont like Trek or Sci-Fi that have watched that
episode and have been affected by it.

Michael

It also has some of the best quotes of any episode. In one scene when
Spock realizes he could have recorded all of earth history from the
tricorder play back, he says succinctly, "I am a fool".


Also... To explain Spocks ears... His "unfortunate accident as a child" "He
accidently got his head caught in a mechanical rice picking machine"

And at the very end of the episode "Lets get the hell out of here"

That last one was bold language for a TV show back then. I wondered how
they got it past the censors. Maybe it was because Kirk said it with a
sense of sadness after losing Edith to save the world.


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starman wrote:


I caught an old time radio broadcast a while back. It was a rerun of
a 1950s 'Have Gun Will Travel' (with Richard Boone?).

John Dehner.

The "Have Gun, Will Travel" radio shows appear from time to time on the
"When Radio Was" series. Stan Freiberg reminds us that "Have Gun, Will
Travel" is one of the few radio shows which was adopted from an existing TV
show.


The author was a
little know Gene Roddenberry. To me, that name is so tied to Star Trek
that it was hard associating it with a fifty year old wild west script.




mike

Did the Have Gun conclusion depend on time travel, or convenient, yet
impossible physics, or DNA "repair"?

Frank Dresser

Frank Dresser wrote:

Did the Have Gun conclusion depend on time travel, or convenient, yet
impossible physics, or DNA "repair"?


I don't know, but Paladin, inexplicable, reappeared in San Francisco
immediately after the station break. Weird.





mike

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Michael wrote:

"starman" wrote in message
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Michael wrote:

"starman" wrote in message

Frank White wrote:

Spock WAS using his tricorder as a base; but I agree, it was
a masterful demonstration of scientific acumen.

FW

Spock was trying to make the first mnemonic memory circuit using
"stone
knives and bear skins". The episode is called 'City on the Edge of
Forever', written by Harlan Ellison. It's regarded by many as the
best
one of the original series.


No question about it. "City One the Edge" It is one of the best, if
not
the
best of all the original series episodes. IMO, it is one of the best
Trek
episodes of ANY of the Trek series. It had everything. Good sci-fi
components, great acting, romance, suspense, mystery... I found seeing
Mr.
Spock and Kirk all dressed up in depression era clothing while working
to
get the time line fixed up to be uniquely powerful in its dreary yet
hopeful
way. To me that was the most amazing thing about that episode. There
you
had Kirk and Spock that came from a highly advance social and
technological
time of human advancement, all the way back in time to the depression
ear
to
save the future of mankind from the hands of nazis with nukes.
It is altogether spooky and surreal when Mr. Spock uses his mnemonic
memory
circuit and tricorder to review the past events and you see the clips
of
the
V-2 rocket. To add to all of that, you now have the drama of knowing
that
the alluring and beautiful Edith Keeler, who remains hopeful for the
future
of mankind (Joan Collins), must die to set things right.

I have known people that dont like Trek or Sci-Fi that have watched
that
episode and have been affected by it.

Michael

It also has some of the best quotes of any episode. In one scene when
Spock realizes he could have recorded all of earth history from the
tricorder play back, he says succinctly, "I am a fool".


Also... To explain Spocks ears... His "unfortunate accident as a child"
"He
accidently got his head caught in a mechanical rice picking machine"

And at the very end of the episode "Lets get the hell out of here"

That last one was bold language for a TV show back then. I wondered how
they got it past the censors. Maybe it was because Kirk said it with a
sense of sadness after losing Edith to save the world.



Yep.. Star Trek sure broke a lot of social ground on TV. They had women in
positions of importance, they had minorities in positions of importance,
they had a Russian guy on during the cold war, the first interracial kiss
ever seen on TV and so on...

Michael

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 23:34:38 GMT, "Michael"
wrote:


"starman" wrote in message
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Michael wrote:

"starman" wrote in message

Frank White wrote:

Spock WAS using his tricorder as a base; but I agree, it was
a masterful demonstration of scientific acumen.

FW

Spock was trying to make the first mnemonic memory circuit using "stone
knives and bear skins". The episode is called 'City on the Edge of
Forever', written by Harlan Ellison. It's regarded by many as the best
one of the original series.


No question about it. "City One the Edge" It is one of the best, if not
the
best of all the original series episodes. IMO, it is one of the best
Trek
episodes of ANY of the Trek series. It had everything. Good sci-fi
components, great acting, romance, suspense, mystery... I found seeing
Mr.
Spock and Kirk all dressed up in depression era clothing while working to
get the time line fixed up to be uniquely powerful in its dreary yet
hopeful
way. To me that was the most amazing thing about that episode. There
you
had Kirk and Spock that came from a highly advance social and
technological
time of human advancement, all the way back in time to the depression ear
to
save the future of mankind from the hands of nazis with nukes.
It is altogether spooky and surreal when Mr. Spock uses his mnemonic
memory
circuit and tricorder to review the past events and you see the clips of
the
V-2 rocket. To add to all of that, you now have the drama of knowing
that
the alluring and beautiful Edith Keeler, who remains hopeful for the
future
of mankind (Joan Collins), must die to set things right.

I have known people that dont like Trek or Sci-Fi that have watched that
episode and have been affected by it.

Michael

It also has some of the best quotes of any episode. In one scene when
Spock realizes he could have recorded all of earth history from the
tricorder play back, he says succinctly, "I am a fool".


Also... To explain Spocks ears... His "unfortunate accident as a child" "He
accidently got his head caught in a mechanical rice picking machine"

And at the very end of the episode "Lets get the hell out of here"

All-time best Star Trek line -- Spock's father was asked why
he married Spock's (human) mother. He said, "It seemed the logical
thing to do at the time."