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Michael November 6th 04 02:30 AM

If Mr. Spock wanted a SW radio ???
 
If Mr. Spock had to pick the most logical bang for the buck portable sw
radio in all performance categories to buy given he had $200.00 total to
spend. New or used. The best available for $200.00 or less. What would he
pick ???

I say: 7600gr

If Mr. Spock had to pick the most logical bang for the buck tablet top sw
radio in all performance categories to buy given he had $1000.00 total to
spend. New or used. Just the best available for $200.00 or less. What
would he pick ???

I say... Icom R-75

"Logical... Flawlessly logical"

If Kirk wanted a sw radio, he'd seduce the first woman he could find with a
WJ-8711a

--
Respectfully,

Michael

Location: New Jersey
Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods
Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire
Additional Radios: 7600GR,KA-1101,KA-1102
PL-550, KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III
Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube)
Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com



Michael November 6th 04 02:37 AM


"Michael" wrote in message
. net...
If Mr. Spock had to pick the most logical bang for the buck portable sw
radio in all performance categories to buy given he had $200.00 total to
spend. New or used. The best available for $200.00 or less. What would
he pick ???

I say: 7600gr

If Mr. Spock had to pick the most logical bang for the buck tablet top sw
radio in all performance categories to buy given he had $1000.00 total to
spend. New or used. Just the best available for


(CORRECTION)

($1000.00)or less. What

would he pick ???

I say... Icom R-75

"Logical... Flawlessly logical"

If Kirk wanted a sw radio, he'd seduce the first woman he could find with
a WJ-8711a

--
Respectfully,

Michael

Location: New Jersey
Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods
Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire
Additional Radios: 7600GR,KA-1101,KA-1102
PL-550, KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III
Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube)
Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com




m II November 6th 04 02:47 AM

Michael wrote:

If Kirk wanted a sw radio, he'd seduce the first woman he could find with a
WJ-8711a


He's too much in love with himself to bother. Oh..wait a minute...that's
Shatner I'm thinking of..

But is there a difference?





mike

Brian Edward Hill November 6th 04 05:46 AM


"m II" wrote in message
news:tXWid.56064$VA5.45456@clgrps13...
Michael wrote:

If Kirk wanted a sw radio, he'd seduce the first woman he could find

with a
WJ-8711a


He's too much in love with himself to bother. Oh..wait a minute...that's
Shatner I'm thinking of..

But is there a difference?





mike



Take it easy Mike. No sense in getting riled up!

The Sinner




Michael Lawson November 6th 04 06:21 AM


"Michael" wrote in message
. net...

"Michael" wrote in message
. net...
If Mr. Spock had to pick the most logical bang for the buck

portable sw
radio in all performance categories to buy given he had $200.00

total to
spend. New or used. The best available for $200.00 or less. What

would
he pick ???

I say: 7600gr

If Mr. Spock had to pick the most logical bang for the buck tablet

top sw
radio in all performance categories to buy given he had $1000.00

total to
spend. New or used. Just the best available for


(CORRECTION)

($1000.00)or less. What

would he pick ???


A used Drake R8A or R8B, and a Sony 2010 (all are used, these days)
for field work.

--Mike L.




Frank White November 6th 04 02:43 PM

In article , says...

If Mr. Spock had to pick the most logical bang for the buck portable sw
radio in all performance categories to buy given he had $200.00 total to
spend. New or used. The best available for $200.00 or less. What would he
pick ???


Spock would build his own for $200, and it would be better than
anything currently on the market.

FW


Brian Edward Hill November 6th 04 03:10 PM


"Frank White" wrote in message
...
In article ,

says...

If Mr. Spock had to pick the most logical bang for the buck portable sw
radio in all performance categories to buy given he had $200.00 total to
spend. New or used. The best available for $200.00 or less. What would

he
pick ???


Spock would build his own for $200, and it would be better than
anything currently on the market.

FW


I agree. Spock is a badass. Remember the show where him and Kirk were on the
planet run by Mobsters and Spock made a radio from old tubes and components
so they could talk to the Enterprise?


--
73 and good DXing.
Brian
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A lot of radios and 100' of rusty wire!
Zumbrota, Southern MN
Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/



RHF November 7th 04 12:28 AM

= = = m II wrote in message
= = = news:tXWid.56064$VA5.45456@clgrps13...

Michael wrote:

If Kirk wanted a sw radio, he'd seduce the first woman he
could find with a WJ-8711a


He's too much in love with himself to bother.
Oh..wait a minute... that's Shatner I'm thinking of..

But is there a difference?

mike



MII,

Why are you so down on a 'fellow' "Canadian" William Shatner ?

AKA: 'Captain James "T" Kirk' to Star Trekkies.
Who was born March 22 2233 (300 Years later to the Day) in
Riverside, Iowa on the 'United Planet' Earth.
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/vie...r/1112496.html

NOTE: The "T" was for 'Tiberius'

Back-to-Reality: The Actor and Writer William Shatner was born
March 22, 1931 in Montreal, Quebec, Canada.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shatner

~ RHF
..
..

m II November 7th 04 03:15 AM

Brian Edward Hill wrote:

I agree. Spock is a badass. Remember the show where him and Kirk were on the
planet run by Mobsters and Spock made a radio from old tubes and components
so they could talk to the Enterprise?



I disagree. he made a radio from NEW tubes and components.




mike

Volker Tonn November 7th 04 10:08 AM




I disagree. he made a radio from NEW tubes and components.


It is at least much easier to buil a transmitter/transceiver with tubes
than with semiconductor technology. The more if you want a high wattage
output. This is still todays technology.


John November 7th 04 04:33 PM

"Brian Edward Hill" wrote in message ...


I agree. Spock is a badass. Remember the show where him and Kirk were on the
planet run by Mobsters and Spock made a radio from old tubes and components
so they could talk to the Enterprise?


Heck, Spock did way better than that in another episode, where Bones
went bezerk and jumped into a time portal and Spock and Kirk jumped in
after to save him, and they ended up in a 1920's rescue mission though
at different times. The mission was headed by some hottie woman. Spock
proceeded to build a "time viewer" out of tubes/valves from money
earned at the mission, to determine when all 3 would meet up
time-wise; while Kirk -- that famed pan-galactic loverboy -- kept the
hottie busy socially. And not only did Spock's viewer accurately
locate Bones in the space-time continuum and when all 3 would meet up,
but it also foretold the ultimate demise of Kirk's new heart throb. I
still feel, if Spock had simply clipped a 20 foot piece of wire to his
time viewer, he could have easily picked up the BBC.

Frank White November 7th 04 05:15 PM

In article , says...

"Brian Edward Hill" wrote in message ...


I agree. Spock is a badass. Remember the show where him and Kirk were on the
planet run by Mobsters and Spock made a radio from old tubes and components
so they could talk to the Enterprise?


Heck, Spock did way better than that in another episode, where Bones
went bezerk and jumped into a time portal and Spock and Kirk jumped in
after to save him, and they ended up in a 1920's rescue mission though
at different times. The mission was headed by some hottie woman.


Joan Collins.

When she was the hottest of the hot.

Spock
proceeded to build a "time viewer" out of tubes/valves from money
earned at the mission, to determine when all 3 would meet up
time-wise; while Kirk -- that famed pan-galactic loverboy -- kept the
hottie busy socially.


I think he actually fell for her. Hard. She should have been part
of the dream world that Picard had to pull Kirk away from in that
one Star Trek movie; that would have made sense.

And not only did Spock's viewer accurately
locate Bones in the space-time continuum and when all 3 would meet up,
but it also foretold the ultimate demise of Kirk's new heart throb. I
still feel, if Spock had simply clipped a 20 foot piece of wire to his
time viewer, he could have easily picked up the BBC.


Spock WAS using his tricorder as a base; but I agree, it was
a masterful demonstration of scientific acumen.

FW


starman November 8th 04 12:31 AM

Frank White wrote:

In article , says...

"Brian Edward Hill" wrote in message ...


I agree. Spock is a badass. Remember the show where him and Kirk were on the
planet run by Mobsters and Spock made a radio from old tubes and components
so they could talk to the Enterprise?


Heck, Spock did way better than that in another episode, where Bones
went bezerk and jumped into a time portal and Spock and Kirk jumped in
after to save him, and they ended up in a 1920's rescue mission though
at different times. The mission was headed by some hottie woman.


Joan Collins.

When she was the hottest of the hot.

Spock
proceeded to build a "time viewer" out of tubes/valves from money
earned at the mission, to determine when all 3 would meet up
time-wise; while Kirk -- that famed pan-galactic loverboy -- kept the
hottie busy socially.


I think he actually fell for her. Hard. She should have been part
of the dream world that Picard had to pull Kirk away from in that
one Star Trek movie; that would have made sense.

And not only did Spock's viewer accurately
locate Bones in the space-time continuum and when all 3 would meet up,
but it also foretold the ultimate demise of Kirk's new heart throb. I
still feel, if Spock had simply clipped a 20 foot piece of wire to his
time viewer, he could have easily picked up the BBC.


Spock WAS using his tricorder as a base; but I agree, it was
a masterful demonstration of scientific acumen.

FW


Spock was trying to make the first mnemonic memory circuit using "stone
knives and bear skins". The episode is called 'City on the Edge of
Forever', written by Harlan Ellison. It's regarded by many as the best
one of the original series.


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Dyuob Poltice November 8th 04 12:44 AM

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 19:31:42 -0500, starman wrote:

Frank White wrote:

In article , says...

"Brian Edward Hill" wrote in message ...


I agree. Spock is a badass. Remember the show where him and Kirk were on the
planet run by Mobsters and Spock made a radio from old tubes and components
so they could talk to the Enterprise?

Heck, Spock did way better than that in another episode, where Bones
went bezerk and jumped into a time portal and Spock and Kirk jumped in
after to save him, and they ended up in a 1920's rescue mission though
at different times. The mission was headed by some hottie woman.


Joan Collins.

When she was the hottest of the hot.

Spock
proceeded to build a "time viewer" out of tubes/valves from money
earned at the mission, to determine when all 3 would meet up
time-wise; while Kirk -- that famed pan-galactic loverboy -- kept the
hottie busy socially.


I think he actually fell for her. Hard. She should have been part
of the dream world that Picard had to pull Kirk away from in that
one Star Trek movie; that would have made sense.

And not only did Spock's viewer accurately
locate Bones in the space-time continuum and when all 3 would meet up,
but it also foretold the ultimate demise of Kirk's new heart throb. I
still feel, if Spock had simply clipped a 20 foot piece of wire to his
time viewer, he could have easily picked up the BBC.


Spock WAS using his tricorder as a base; but I agree, it was
a masterful demonstration of scientific acumen.

FW


Spock was trying to make the first mnemonic memory circuit using "stone
knives and bear skins". The episode is called 'City on the Edge of
Forever', written by Harlan Ellison. It's regarded by many as the best
one of the original series.


It's my favorite of the originals.
I think that was the episode I first heard the word mneumonics as
well.

m II November 8th 04 07:34 AM

starman wrote:

Spock was trying to make the first mnemonic memory circuit using "stone
knives and bear skins". The episode is called 'City on the Edge of
Forever', written by Harlan Ellison. It's regarded by many as the best
one of the original series.


I caught an old time radio broadcast a while back. It was a rerun of
a 1950s 'Have Gun Will Travel' (with Richard Boone?). The author was a
little know Gene Roddenberry. To me, that name is so tied to Star Trek
that it was hard associating it with a fifty year old wild west script.




mike

Michael November 8th 04 04:37 PM


"starman" wrote in message
...
Frank White wrote:

In article ,
says...

"Brian Edward Hill" wrote in message
...


I agree. Spock is a badass. Remember the show where him and Kirk were
on the
planet run by Mobsters and Spock made a radio from old tubes and
components
so they could talk to the Enterprise?

Heck, Spock did way better than that in another episode, where Bones
went bezerk and jumped into a time portal and Spock and Kirk jumped in
after to save him, and they ended up in a 1920's rescue mission though
at different times. The mission was headed by some hottie woman.


Joan Collins.

When she was the hottest of the hot.

Spock
proceeded to build a "time viewer" out of tubes/valves from money
earned at the mission, to determine when all 3 would meet up
time-wise; while Kirk -- that famed pan-galactic loverboy -- kept the
hottie busy socially.


I think he actually fell for her. Hard. She should have been part
of the dream world that Picard had to pull Kirk away from in that
one Star Trek movie; that would have made sense.

And not only did Spock's viewer accurately
locate Bones in the space-time continuum and when all 3 would meet up,
but it also foretold the ultimate demise of Kirk's new heart throb. I
still feel, if Spock had simply clipped a 20 foot piece of wire to his
time viewer, he could have easily picked up the BBC.


Spock WAS using his tricorder as a base; but I agree, it was
a masterful demonstration of scientific acumen.

FW


Spock was trying to make the first mnemonic memory circuit using "stone
knives and bear skins". The episode is called 'City on the Edge of
Forever', written by Harlan Ellison. It's regarded by many as the best
one of the original series.


No question about it. "City One the Edge" It is one of the best, if not the
best of all the original series episodes. IMO, it is one of the best Trek
episodes of ANY of the Trek series. It had everything. Good sci-fi
components, great acting, romance, suspense, mystery... I found seeing Mr.
Spock and Kirk all dressed up in depression era clothing while working to
get the time line fixed up to be uniquely powerful in its dreary yet hopeful
way. To me that was the most amazing thing about that episode. There you
had Kirk and Spock that came from a highly advance social and technological
time of human advancement, all the way back in time to the depression ear to
save the future of mankind from the hands of nazis with nukes.
It is altogether spooky and surreal when Mr. Spock uses his mnemonic memory
circuit and tricorder to review the past events and you see the clips of the
V-2 rocket. To add to all of that, you now have the drama of knowing that
the alluring and beautiful Edith Keeler, who remains hopeful for the future
of mankind (Joan Collins), must die to set things right.

I have known people that dont like Trek or Sci-Fi that have watched that
episode and have been affected by it.

Michael




Tim Shoppa November 8th 04 05:31 PM

m II wrote in message news:Frgjd.68788$E93.7592@clgrps12...
Brian Edward Hill wrote:

I agree. Spock is a badass. Remember the show where him and Kirk were on the
planet run by Mobsters and Spock made a radio from old tubes and components
so they could talk to the Enterprise?



I disagree. he made a radio from NEW tubes and components.


He also asked Captain Kirk if they could afford to just get a
cubic foot of platinum (thrown in, I'm sure, for comedy value:
They were working as odd-job janitors on 20th century earth.)

Tim.

Mark Zenier November 8th 04 06:46 PM

In article SjFjd.75969$E93.50122@clgrps12,
m II wrote:
starman wrote:

Spock was trying to make the first mnemonic memory circuit using "stone
knives and bear skins". The episode is called 'City on the Edge of
Forever', written by Harlan Ellison. It's regarded by many as the best
one of the original series.


I caught an old time radio broadcast a while back. It was a rerun of
a 1950s 'Have Gun Will Travel' (with Richard Boone?). The author was a
little know Gene Roddenberry. To me, that name is so tied to Star Trek
that it was hard associating it with a fifty year old wild west script.


But the original Star Trek was pitched to the executives as "Wagon Train
to the Stars", although a major part of the inspiration seems to have
been Capt. James Cook's expeditions to the south Pacific.


Mark Zenier Washington State resident


starman November 8th 04 11:08 PM

Michael wrote:

"starman" wrote in message


Frank White wrote:


Spock WAS using his tricorder as a base; but I agree, it was
a masterful demonstration of scientific acumen.

FW


Spock was trying to make the first mnemonic memory circuit using "stone
knives and bear skins". The episode is called 'City on the Edge of
Forever', written by Harlan Ellison. It's regarded by many as the best
one of the original series.


No question about it. "City One the Edge" It is one of the best, if not the
best of all the original series episodes. IMO, it is one of the best Trek
episodes of ANY of the Trek series. It had everything. Good sci-fi
components, great acting, romance, suspense, mystery... I found seeing Mr.
Spock and Kirk all dressed up in depression era clothing while working to
get the time line fixed up to be uniquely powerful in its dreary yet hopeful
way. To me that was the most amazing thing about that episode. There you
had Kirk and Spock that came from a highly advance social and technological
time of human advancement, all the way back in time to the depression ear to
save the future of mankind from the hands of nazis with nukes.
It is altogether spooky and surreal when Mr. Spock uses his mnemonic memory
circuit and tricorder to review the past events and you see the clips of the
V-2 rocket. To add to all of that, you now have the drama of knowing that
the alluring and beautiful Edith Keeler, who remains hopeful for the future
of mankind (Joan Collins), must die to set things right.

I have known people that dont like Trek or Sci-Fi that have watched that
episode and have been affected by it.

Michael


It also has some of the best quotes of any episode. In one scene when
Spock realizes he could have recorded all of earth history from the
tricorder play back, he says succinctly, "I am a fool".


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Dyuob Poltice November 8th 04 11:14 PM

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 18:08:45 -0500, starman wrote:

Michael wrote:

"starman" wrote in message


Frank White wrote:


Spock WAS using his tricorder as a base; but I agree, it was
a masterful demonstration of scientific acumen.

FW

Spock was trying to make the first mnemonic memory circuit using "stone
knives and bear skins". The episode is called 'City on the Edge of
Forever', written by Harlan Ellison. It's regarded by many as the best
one of the original series.


No question about it. "City One the Edge" It is one of the best, if not the
best of all the original series episodes. IMO, it is one of the best Trek
episodes of ANY of the Trek series. It had everything. Good sci-fi
components, great acting, romance, suspense, mystery... I found seeing Mr.
Spock and Kirk all dressed up in depression era clothing while working to
get the time line fixed up to be uniquely powerful in its dreary yet hopeful
way. To me that was the most amazing thing about that episode. There you
had Kirk and Spock that came from a highly advance social and technological
time of human advancement, all the way back in time to the depression ear to
save the future of mankind from the hands of nazis with nukes.
It is altogether spooky and surreal when Mr. Spock uses his mnemonic memory
circuit and tricorder to review the past events and you see the clips of the
V-2 rocket. To add to all of that, you now have the drama of knowing that
the alluring and beautiful Edith Keeler, who remains hopeful for the future
of mankind (Joan Collins), must die to set things right.

I have known people that dont like Trek or Sci-Fi that have watched that
episode and have been affected by it.

Michael


It also has some of the best quotes of any episode. In one scene when
Spock realizes he could have recorded all of earth history from the
tricorder play back, he says succinctly, "I am a fool".



So what was the music they had to replace from the original airing?
It was my understanding they couldn't get rights to for the dvd
release.

Michael November 8th 04 11:34 PM


"starman" wrote in message
...
Michael wrote:

"starman" wrote in message


Frank White wrote:


Spock WAS using his tricorder as a base; but I agree, it was
a masterful demonstration of scientific acumen.

FW

Spock was trying to make the first mnemonic memory circuit using "stone
knives and bear skins". The episode is called 'City on the Edge of
Forever', written by Harlan Ellison. It's regarded by many as the best
one of the original series.


No question about it. "City One the Edge" It is one of the best, if not
the
best of all the original series episodes. IMO, it is one of the best
Trek
episodes of ANY of the Trek series. It had everything. Good sci-fi
components, great acting, romance, suspense, mystery... I found seeing
Mr.
Spock and Kirk all dressed up in depression era clothing while working to
get the time line fixed up to be uniquely powerful in its dreary yet
hopeful
way. To me that was the most amazing thing about that episode. There
you
had Kirk and Spock that came from a highly advance social and
technological
time of human advancement, all the way back in time to the depression ear
to
save the future of mankind from the hands of nazis with nukes.
It is altogether spooky and surreal when Mr. Spock uses his mnemonic
memory
circuit and tricorder to review the past events and you see the clips of
the
V-2 rocket. To add to all of that, you now have the drama of knowing
that
the alluring and beautiful Edith Keeler, who remains hopeful for the
future
of mankind (Joan Collins), must die to set things right.

I have known people that dont like Trek or Sci-Fi that have watched that
episode and have been affected by it.

Michael


It also has some of the best quotes of any episode. In one scene when
Spock realizes he could have recorded all of earth history from the
tricorder play back, he says succinctly, "I am a fool".


Also... To explain Spocks ears... His "unfortunate accident as a child" "He
accidently got his head caught in a mechanical rice picking machine"

And at the very end of the episode "Lets get the hell out of here"

Michael



Ken Finney November 9th 04 07:49 PM


"Mark Zenier" wrote in message
...
In article SjFjd.75969$E93.50122@clgrps12,
m II wrote:
starman wrote:

Spock was trying to make the first mnemonic memory circuit using "stone
knives and bear skins". The episode is called 'City on the Edge of
Forever', written by Harlan Ellison. It's regarded by many as the best
one of the original series.


I caught an old time radio broadcast a while back. It was a rerun of
a 1950s 'Have Gun Will Travel' (with Richard Boone?). The author was a
little know Gene Roddenberry. To me, that name is so tied to Star Trek
that it was hard associating it with a fifty year old wild west script.


But the original Star Trek was pitched to the executives as "Wagon Train
to the Stars", although a major part of the inspiration seems to have
been Capt. James Cook's expeditions to the south Pacific.



Well, Kirk was patterned after Horatio Hornblower. Maybe Hornblower
was patterned after Cook?






Gray Shockley November 9th 04 08:48 PM

On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 12:46:07 -0600, Mark Zenier wrote
(in message ):

But the original Star Trek was pitched to the executives as "Wagon Train
to the Stars", although a major part of the inspiration seems to have
been Capt. James Cook's expeditions to the south Pacific.


Mark Zenier Washington State resident



Ah, but the resemblance was distant.


The one which has always amused me
is "Bonanza" and "Bonanza in Outer
Space" ["Battlestar Galactica"].


I've never been convinced that they didn't
just re-use old "Bonanza" scripts and
pencil-correct things such as "Ranch"
to "Space Ship" and Little Joe to
whatshisface.


And, then, of course, featuring
Robbie the Robot as in like
Bill's "Tempest".


Gray Shockley
Vicksburg, MS
---------------------------------
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[Insert Cable, Sat or Antenna]



[It has been discovered that the sonnets as well as the plays were not
written by William Shakespeare but by someone else with the same name.]




John November 10th 04 06:12 AM

(Mark Zenier) wrote in message ...

But the original Star Trek was pitched to the executives as "Wagon Train
to the Stars", although a major part of the inspiration seems to have
been Capt. James Cook's expeditions to the south Pacific.


Mark Zenier
Washington State resident

Both shows were equally good to watch; though I liked Wagon Train
more-so when Ward Bond was the wagon master.

starman November 10th 04 09:04 AM

Gray Shockley wrote:

On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 12:46:07 -0600, Mark Zenier wrote
(in message ):

But the original Star Trek was pitched to the executives as "Wagon Train
to the Stars", although a major part of the inspiration seems to have
been Capt. James Cook's expeditions to the south Pacific.


Mark Zenier Washington State resident


Ah, but the resemblance was distant.

The one which has always amused me
is "Bonanza" and "Bonanza in Outer
Space" ["Battlestar Galactica"].

I've never been convinced that they didn't
just re-use old "Bonanza" scripts and
pencil-correct things such as "Ranch"
to "Space Ship" and Little Joe to
whatshisface.

And, then, of course, featuring
Robbie the Robot as in like
Bill's "Tempest".


Robbie got recycled several times for movies and sci-fi shows. They
changed some of his hardware each time to make him look like a new
creation, but the geeks knew it was him.


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starman November 10th 04 09:13 AM

Michael wrote:

"starman" wrote in message
...
Michael wrote:

"starman" wrote in message


Frank White wrote:


Spock WAS using his tricorder as a base; but I agree, it was
a masterful demonstration of scientific acumen.

FW

Spock was trying to make the first mnemonic memory circuit using "stone
knives and bear skins". The episode is called 'City on the Edge of
Forever', written by Harlan Ellison. It's regarded by many as the best
one of the original series.


No question about it. "City One the Edge" It is one of the best, if not
the
best of all the original series episodes. IMO, it is one of the best
Trek
episodes of ANY of the Trek series. It had everything. Good sci-fi
components, great acting, romance, suspense, mystery... I found seeing
Mr.
Spock and Kirk all dressed up in depression era clothing while working to
get the time line fixed up to be uniquely powerful in its dreary yet
hopeful
way. To me that was the most amazing thing about that episode. There
you
had Kirk and Spock that came from a highly advance social and
technological
time of human advancement, all the way back in time to the depression ear
to
save the future of mankind from the hands of nazis with nukes.
It is altogether spooky and surreal when Mr. Spock uses his mnemonic
memory
circuit and tricorder to review the past events and you see the clips of
the
V-2 rocket. To add to all of that, you now have the drama of knowing
that
the alluring and beautiful Edith Keeler, who remains hopeful for the
future
of mankind (Joan Collins), must die to set things right.

I have known people that dont like Trek or Sci-Fi that have watched that
episode and have been affected by it.

Michael


It also has some of the best quotes of any episode. In one scene when
Spock realizes he could have recorded all of earth history from the
tricorder play back, he says succinctly, "I am a fool".


Also... To explain Spocks ears... His "unfortunate accident as a child" "He
accidently got his head caught in a mechanical rice picking machine"

And at the very end of the episode "Lets get the hell out of here"


That last one was bold language for a TV show back then. I wondered how
they got it past the censors. Maybe it was because Kirk said it with a
sense of sadness after losing Edith to save the world.


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Frank Dresser November 10th 04 05:31 PM


"m II" wrote in message
news:SjFjd.75969$E93.50122@clgrps12...
starman wrote:


I caught an old time radio broadcast a while back. It was a rerun of
a 1950s 'Have Gun Will Travel' (with Richard Boone?).


John Dehner.

The "Have Gun, Will Travel" radio shows appear from time to time on the
"When Radio Was" series. Stan Freiberg reminds us that "Have Gun, Will
Travel" is one of the few radio shows which was adopted from an existing TV
show.


The author was a
little know Gene Roddenberry. To me, that name is so tied to Star Trek
that it was hard associating it with a fifty year old wild west script.




mike


Did the Have Gun conclusion depend on time travel, or convenient, yet
impossible physics, or DNA "repair"?

Frank Dresser



m II November 11th 04 01:52 AM

Frank Dresser wrote:

Did the Have Gun conclusion depend on time travel, or convenient, yet
impossible physics, or DNA "repair"?



I don't know, but Paladin, inexplicable, reappeared in San Francisco
immediately after the station break. Weird.





mike

Michael November 11th 04 02:17 AM


"starman" wrote in message
...
Michael wrote:

"starman" wrote in message
...
Michael wrote:

"starman" wrote in message

Frank White wrote:

Spock WAS using his tricorder as a base; but I agree, it was
a masterful demonstration of scientific acumen.

FW

Spock was trying to make the first mnemonic memory circuit using
"stone
knives and bear skins". The episode is called 'City on the Edge of
Forever', written by Harlan Ellison. It's regarded by many as the
best
one of the original series.


No question about it. "City One the Edge" It is one of the best, if
not
the
best of all the original series episodes. IMO, it is one of the best
Trek
episodes of ANY of the Trek series. It had everything. Good sci-fi
components, great acting, romance, suspense, mystery... I found seeing
Mr.
Spock and Kirk all dressed up in depression era clothing while working
to
get the time line fixed up to be uniquely powerful in its dreary yet
hopeful
way. To me that was the most amazing thing about that episode. There
you
had Kirk and Spock that came from a highly advance social and
technological
time of human advancement, all the way back in time to the depression
ear
to
save the future of mankind from the hands of nazis with nukes.
It is altogether spooky and surreal when Mr. Spock uses his mnemonic
memory
circuit and tricorder to review the past events and you see the clips
of
the
V-2 rocket. To add to all of that, you now have the drama of knowing
that
the alluring and beautiful Edith Keeler, who remains hopeful for the
future
of mankind (Joan Collins), must die to set things right.

I have known people that dont like Trek or Sci-Fi that have watched
that
episode and have been affected by it.

Michael

It also has some of the best quotes of any episode. In one scene when
Spock realizes he could have recorded all of earth history from the
tricorder play back, he says succinctly, "I am a fool".


Also... To explain Spocks ears... His "unfortunate accident as a child"
"He
accidently got his head caught in a mechanical rice picking machine"

And at the very end of the episode "Lets get the hell out of here"


That last one was bold language for a TV show back then. I wondered how
they got it past the censors. Maybe it was because Kirk said it with a
sense of sadness after losing Edith to save the world.



Yep.. Star Trek sure broke a lot of social ground on TV. They had women in
positions of importance, they had minorities in positions of importance,
they had a Russian guy on during the cold war, the first interracial kiss
ever seen on TV and so on...

Michael



[email protected] November 11th 04 10:48 PM

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 23:34:38 GMT, "Michael"
wrote:


"starman" wrote in message
...
Michael wrote:

"starman" wrote in message


Frank White wrote:


Spock WAS using his tricorder as a base; but I agree, it was
a masterful demonstration of scientific acumen.

FW

Spock was trying to make the first mnemonic memory circuit using "stone
knives and bear skins". The episode is called 'City on the Edge of
Forever', written by Harlan Ellison. It's regarded by many as the best
one of the original series.


No question about it. "City One the Edge" It is one of the best, if not
the
best of all the original series episodes. IMO, it is one of the best
Trek
episodes of ANY of the Trek series. It had everything. Good sci-fi
components, great acting, romance, suspense, mystery... I found seeing
Mr.
Spock and Kirk all dressed up in depression era clothing while working to
get the time line fixed up to be uniquely powerful in its dreary yet
hopeful
way. To me that was the most amazing thing about that episode. There
you
had Kirk and Spock that came from a highly advance social and
technological
time of human advancement, all the way back in time to the depression ear
to
save the future of mankind from the hands of nazis with nukes.
It is altogether spooky and surreal when Mr. Spock uses his mnemonic
memory
circuit and tricorder to review the past events and you see the clips of
the
V-2 rocket. To add to all of that, you now have the drama of knowing
that
the alluring and beautiful Edith Keeler, who remains hopeful for the
future
of mankind (Joan Collins), must die to set things right.

I have known people that dont like Trek or Sci-Fi that have watched that
episode and have been affected by it.

Michael


It also has some of the best quotes of any episode. In one scene when
Spock realizes he could have recorded all of earth history from the
tricorder play back, he says succinctly, "I am a fool".


Also... To explain Spocks ears... His "unfortunate accident as a child" "He
accidently got his head caught in a mechanical rice picking machine"

And at the very end of the episode "Lets get the hell out of here"


All-time best Star Trek line -- Spock's father was asked why
he married Spock's (human) mother. He said, "It seemed the logical
thing to do at the time."


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