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Old November 9th 04, 04:51 PM
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Home come the visitors to the island were able to leave but not the
castaways? Why didn't the visitors report the location of the island
when they got back to civilization? :-)


Thanks for getting me to clarify an important point. Only the first year of
Gilligan can be properly placed in the Island Noir genre. I know it's hard
to believe, but there are still some people who don't "get it". For them, I
suggest they imagine some cast changes. Picture the Skipper and Gilligan
played by Sidney Greenstreet and Peter Lorre. Mr. and Mrs. Howell played
by Edward G. Robinson and Bette Davis. Ginger portrayed by Veronica Lake.
Of course, the Professor would be Robert Mitchum.

With such a cast, the true nature of the island elite would have been
obvious to even the most doltish, thick-headed viewer. Even some TV critics
might have gotten beyond the question, "Howcum they brought so many
cigarettes for a three hour tour?". But casting the castaways as comedic
figures goes even beyond the brilliance of casting Fred MacMurray as Walter
Neff. In this way, we get to see the other islanders as the trusting,
innocent Mary Ann sees them. It's only as we mature, and listen to enough
domestic shortwave radio, that the lies and moral corruption of Mary Ann's
fellow islanders become apparent.

But those later color episodes in which people start showing up? Well,
those episodes are just plain silly.

Frank Dresser


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Old November 9th 04, 09:10 PM
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Frank Dresser wrote:

"starman" wrote in message
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Home come the visitors to the island were able to leave but not the
castaways? Why didn't the visitors report the location of the island
when they got back to civilization? :-)



Thanks for getting me to clarify an important point. Only the first year of
Gilligan can be properly placed in the Island Noir genre. I know it's hard
to believe, but there are still some people who don't "get it". For them, I
suggest they imagine some cast changes. Picture the Skipper and Gilligan
played by Sidney Greenstreet and Peter Lorre. Mr. and Mrs. Howell played
by Edward G. Robinson and Bette Davis. Ginger portrayed by Veronica Lake.
Of course, the Professor would be Robert Mitchum.

With such a cast, the true nature of the island elite would have been
obvious to even the most doltish, thick-headed viewer. Even some TV critics
might have gotten beyond the question, "Howcum they brought so many
cigarettes for a three hour tour?". But casting the castaways as comedic
figures goes even beyond the brilliance of casting Fred MacMurray as Walter
Neff. In this way, we get to see the other islanders as the trusting,
innocent Mary Ann sees them. It's only as we mature, and listen to enough
domestic shortwave radio, that the lies and moral corruption of Mary Ann's
fellow islanders become apparent.

But those later color episodes in which people start showing up? Well,
those episodes are just plain silly.

Frank Dresser


For goodness sakes, it was a fantasy sitcom to entertain, nothing more.

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Old November 10th 04, 04:09 PM
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For goodness sakes, it was a fantasy sitcom to entertain, nothing more.


And Gulliver's Travel's can be read as a children's story and not as a
biting political satire.

I think it's interesting that so many elements of what has become known as
the Globalist New World Order are represented on that bleak, monochromatic
island. The acumen and the stupidity. The mendacity. The authority
unearned by any accomplishment. But most importantly, the central character
who is doomed by her innocent trust.

One can almost hear Alex Jones shouting "Mary Ann, WAKE UP!!"

Frank Dresser



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Old November 11th 04, 05:47 AM
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Frank Dresser wrote:

And Gulliver's Travel's can be read as a children's story and not as a
biting political satire.

I think it's interesting that so many elements of what has become known as
the Globalist New World Order are represented on that bleak, monochromatic
island. The acumen and the stupidity. The mendacity. The authority
unearned by any accomplishment. But most importantly, the central character
who is doomed by her innocent trust.

One can almost hear Alex Jones shouting "Mary Ann, WAKE UP!!"


On a roll, are we?

What next? Dehumanization and destruction of reason as reflected in
"My Mother, the Car"?

'Maynard G. Krebs' as the contrapuntal antisocial evil twin of a
sanitized, bleached and folded parallel universe Gilligan?


Cool, daddy-o...




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Old November 11th 04, 05:37 AM
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Frank Dresser wrote:

In this way, we get to see the other islanders as the trusting,
innocent Mary Ann sees them. It's only as we mature, and listen to enough
domestic shortwave radio, that the lies and moral corruption of Mary Ann's
fellow islanders become apparent.



You have a keen eye for the reality, nay, surreality, of the human
condition. Well done.




mike


(thinking..Frank musta bs'd his way through English lit too...)


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"m II" wrote in message
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Frank Dresser wrote:

In this way, we get to see the other islanders as the trusting,
innocent Mary Ann sees them. It's only as we mature, and listen to

enough
domestic shortwave radio, that the lies and moral corruption of Mary

Ann's
fellow islanders become apparent.



You have a keen eye for the reality, nay, surreality, of the human
condition. Well done.



Thanks, but the credit goes to domestic SW radio. Thirty four years of it,
since the eighth grade when I'd rush home to hear WINB's Rev. Carl McIntyre
explain how the world really worked, has more than supercharged my brain.

I now look like an Alan Maxwell QSL card.






mike


(thinking..Frank musta bs'd his way through English lit too...)


Didn't take English Lit in High School. I suppose the Junior College I took
some trade school courses offered English Lit, but I dropped out.

I did get an A in Motorcycle Mechanics.

Frank Dresser


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Old November 11th 04, 07:24 PM
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The coordinates for the island were given to the surfer (who rode the
tsunami into the lagoon and back to Hawaii) by the professor. I don't
recall the exact coordinates but it wasn't any where near Hawaii when I
plotted them out.

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Old November 12th 04, 08:36 AM
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I did get an A in Motorcycle Mechanics.



Neat. I learned how to set up a Ducati Desmo head in the late
seventies...and how the Brit engines had a left hand thread on the oil
pump gear. The Super Sport 900 Ducati was probably the funnest bike
I've ever owned. I still have a Triumph. It's a 1200 Daytona mind you,
so it doesn't leak. Lots of Nortons over the years...no Commandos though.

I'd like a new Triumph Thruxton in the spring. The Daytona is getting
to be a pain handling in the parking lot. The 560 lb weight and Old
Age, you know. We'll see what the budget looks like next year.


http://www.daworx.com/bikestuff/thruxton.jpg
http://www.mrd-technik.de/tr-04-thruxton900.jpg


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Old November 12th 04, 06:32 PM
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Frank Dresser wrote:

I did get an A in Motorcycle Mechanics.



Neat. I learned how to set up a Ducati Desmo head in the late
seventies...and how the Brit engines had a left hand thread on the oil
pump gear. The Super Sport 900 Ducati was probably the funnest bike
I've ever owned. I still have a Triumph. It's a 1200 Daytona mind you,
so it doesn't leak. Lots of Nortons over the years...no Commandos though.


I had a Royal Enfield Interceptor back then. Speaking of radio, the
workshop manual gave instructions to convert the bike's wiring so the
alternator would develop full power with the headlight off in order to power
a radio transmitter for police work or what not. The alternator could
provide all of 60 watts at high RPM, and maybe 20 watts at idle. The damn
thing could hardly power the headlight!`

The Interceptor leaked everything. Motor oil. Gear oil from the
transmission. ATF from the clutch/primary chain housing. More motor oil
from one leg of the fork. I wasn't pouring expensive fork oil through that
thing. The other leg of the fork somehow held it's oil. Inconsistent
quality control, I guess.

Actually, I still have the Interceptor. It's all in boxes, so I can't
rightly call it a motorcycle.

Did you have an Atlas? They are rather Interceptor-like.



I'd like a new Triumph Thruxton in the spring. The Daytona is getting
to be a pain handling in the parking lot. The 560 lb weight and Old
Age, you know. We'll see what the budget looks like next year.


What, new?


http://www.daworx.com/bikestuff/thruxton.jpg
http://www.mrd-technik.de/tr-04-thruxton900.jpg


mike



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