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Karl Graff November 9th 04 05:46 PM

DRM receivers
 
Please excuse any ignorance I am going to show- you have helped me a lot as
I learned to DX and what kind of radio gives the most bang for the buck.

What is the real deal with DRM? Are analog SW radios going away? Have any of
you invested in a DRM capable receiver and how are they? Should I begin to
move towards DRM and if so, what receivers will pick up and decode those
signals? What are the limitations, or the cons if any, of DRM?

Thanks for any info/opinions you are willing to pass on...

Pastor K


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Michael Lawson November 9th 04 05:56 PM

Considering DRM costs a ton right now, I doubt
that analog is going away anytime soon.

--Mike L.

"Karl Graff" wrote in message
...
Please excuse any ignorance I am going to show- you have helped me a

lot as
I learned to DX and what kind of radio gives the most bang for the

buck.

What is the real deal with DRM? Are analog SW radios going away?

Have any of
you invested in a DRM capable receiver and how are they? Should I

begin to
move towards DRM and if so, what receivers will pick up and decode

those
signals? What are the limitations, or the cons if any, of DRM?

Thanks for any info/opinions you are willing to pass on...

Pastor K


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Al November 9th 04 08:17 PM

If you have a receiver with a 12KHz IF, all you need to do is feed this
into your sound card and Dream software (available for free) will decode
the DRM program. Give it a try before you invest into it, to see if you
like it. I would not invest a lot into it at this time, but I believe it is
the direction SW is going.

The sound quality of DRM is much better than standard shortwave. Its
biggest downfall is that it needs a lot of signal or you will get drop outs
(total loss of signal). Drop outs are very annoying and a lot harder to
take than standard fading on short wave. Music comes across very nice via
DRM, unfortunately there isn't much music available on short wave.

I get solid copy most of the time from Bonaire, Netherlands Antilles and
Sackville, NB Canada. I have not picked up anything from Europe.

Like I said, give it a try and see how you like it.

Al KA5JGV
San Antonio, Tx.



"Karl Graff" wrote in message
...
Please excuse any ignorance I am going to show- you have helped me a lot
as I learned to DX and what kind of radio gives the most bang for the
buck.

What is the real deal with DRM? Are analog SW radios going away? Have any
of you invested in a DRM capable receiver and how are they? Should I
begin to move towards DRM and if so, what receivers will pick up and
decode those signals? What are the limitations, or the cons if any, of
DRM?

Thanks for any info/opinions you are willing to pass on...

Pastor K


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Gray Shockley November 9th 04 08:35 PM

On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 11:46:07 -0600, Karl Graff wrote
(in message ):

Please excuse any ignorance I am going to show- you have helped me a lot as
I learned to DX and what kind of radio gives the most bang for the buck.

What is the real deal with DRM?


"Change" if not "progress". [smile]

Are analog SW radios going away?


I've got a Ten*Tec RX-320 abd can have it
converted for U$60 and buy the software
for another U$60 (last year anyway).

So, U$120 to play with a few stations.


Most commercial and national shortwave
broadcasters are much more interested
in reaching an audience of ten of
thousands (more or less) rather than
23 listeners.

So - for most folks - there would be the
necessity of buying a new shortwave
radio but for what?


And - going from the experience of a domestic broadcasting in Single-Side Ban
- which went over like sumthin or anudder - no one (with the exception, of
course, of bleeding edge pre-early adapters) - is going to rush to go with
DRM.

The above is solely my opinion and I haven't paid any attention to DRM since
the first few months after it was introduced. (I'm not overly excited, as you
prolly tell [grin].)



Have any of
you invested in a DRM capable receiver and how are they? Should I begin to
move towards DRM and if so, what receivers will pick up and decode those
signals? What are the limitations, or the cons if any, of DRM?



Gray Shockley
Vicksburg, MS
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Thanks for any info/opinions you are willing to pass on...

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Geoffrey S. Mendelson November 9th 04 10:11 PM

In article , Karl Graff wrote:
Please excuse any ignorance I am going to show- you have helped me a lot as
I learned to DX and what kind of radio gives the most bang for the buck.

What is the real deal with DRM? Are analog SW radios going away? Have any of
you invested in a DRM capable receiver and how are they? Should I begin to
move towards DRM and if so, what receivers will pick up and decode those
signals? What are the limitations, or the cons if any, of DRM?


This is totaly my opinion:

Shortwave broadcasting is used for two things.

1. To reach an audience outside of one's country to for propaganda,
cultural or relegious purposes.

2. To spread news, etc inside a country where there are large areas with
poor communication, e.g. Northern Canada, India, Russia, China.

DRM is a way of providing high (sound) quality programing using existing
shortwave transmission facilites. It is not compatible with older recivers
and therefore requires the listener put up money to hear it.

In some places it will take off. For example, I assume that shortwave
broadcasting in remote parts of Canada has been replaced by the internet
where possible. Where there is no internet access, DRM will move in to
fill the niche.

In other places such as India or Africa, where the population is poor and
can't afford batteries yet alone radios, good old fasishioned AM will remain
for many years.

Relegious brodcasters already use shortwave, satelitte tv and the internet,
some will add DRM as way of reaching a larger "flock".

The only reason I see DRM taking off in poorer countries is because being
digital it can be encrypted. For example, a someone could produce
DRM radios that only play signals encrypted with a certain key.

How about that for VOA or Radio Moscow only radios?

Geoff.

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dxAce November 9th 04 10:22 PM



"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote:

In article , Karl Graff wrote:
Please excuse any ignorance I am going to show- you have helped me a lot as
I learned to DX and what kind of radio gives the most bang for the buck.

What is the real deal with DRM? Are analog SW radios going away? Have any of
you invested in a DRM capable receiver and how are they? Should I begin to
move towards DRM and if so, what receivers will pick up and decode those
signals? What are the limitations, or the cons if any, of DRM?


This is totaly my opinion:

Shortwave broadcasting is used for two things.

1. To reach an audience outside of one's country to for propaganda,
cultural or relegious purposes.

2. To spread news, etc inside a country where there are large areas with
poor communication, e.g. Northern Canada, India, Russia, China.

DRM is a way of providing high (sound) quality programing using existing
shortwave transmission facilites. It is not compatible with older recivers
and therefore requires the listener put up money to hear it.

In some places it will take off. For example, I assume that shortwave
broadcasting in remote parts of Canada has been replaced by the internet
where possible. Where there is no internet access, DRM will move in to
fill the niche.

In other places such as India or Africa, where the population is poor and
can't afford batteries yet alone radios, good old fasishioned AM will remain
for many years.

Relegious brodcasters already use shortwave, satelitte tv and the internet,
some will add DRM as way of reaching a larger "flock".

The only reason I see DRM taking off in poorer countries is because being
digital it can be encrypted. For example, a someone could produce
DRM radios that only play signals encrypted with a certain key.

How about that for VOA or Radio Moscow only radios?


Radio Moscow no longer exists.

DRM = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA



k2lct November 10th 04 01:58 AM

codingtechnologies.com The inventors of DRM have a USB DRM Radio on
their website for 199 euros


k2lct November 10th 04 01:59 AM

codingtechnologies.com The inventors of DRM have a USB DRM Radio on
their website for 199 euros


Telamon November 10th 04 04:16 AM

In article ,
"Karl Graff" wrote:

Please excuse any ignorance I am going to show- you have helped me a lot as
I learned to DX and what kind of radio gives the most bang for the buck.

What is the real deal with DRM? Are analog SW radios going away? Have any of
you invested in a DRM capable receiver and how are they? Should I begin to
move towards DRM and if so, what receivers will pick up and decode those
signals? What are the limitations, or the cons if any, of DRM?

Thanks for any info/opinions you are willing to pass on...


It's a bad idea made to be something better through a hype campaign and
wishful thinking. DRM is a con job.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

RHF November 10th 04 01:33 PM

= = = Telamon wrote in message
= = = ...
In article ,
"Karl Graff" wrote:

Please excuse any ignorance I am going to show- you have helped me a lot as
I learned to DX and what kind of radio gives the most bang for the buck.

What is the real deal with DRM? Are analog SW radios going away? Have any of
you invested in a DRM capable receiver and how are they? Should I begin to
move towards DRM and if so, what receivers will pick up and decode those
signals? What are the limitations, or the cons if any, of DRM?

Thanks for any info/opinions you are willing to pass on...


It's a bad idea made to be something better through a hype campaign and
wishful thinking. DRM is a con job.



TELAMON,

Good 'old fashion' (Tried-and-True) "Analog" AM International
Broadcasting {Long Distance} may have it's FADE and Weak Signals.
- Remember Analog Celphones ?

DRM "Digital" AM Broadcasting AM International Broadcasting
{Long Distance} has it's Signal Drop-Off.
- Its Here (Can be Heard) "Great Sound" and then Its Gone [.]
- Think of Digital Celphones !

DRM may be good and useful for In-Country 1000 Mile Broadcasting;
but for "Around-the-World" International Broadcasting it offers no
real advantage in Punching the Signal Through and Getting Heard.

The Most Cost-Effective-Method and the Trend for Governments and
'others' who want to get their Message-Out to the Masses of other
Countries will continue to be Internet Broadcasting "On-Demand"
Streaming Audio that is THERE when the Listener Whats to Hear It;
and Host Country Re-Broadcasting via 'local' AM and FM Band Radios;
or via "In-Country" Shortwave Relays.

ssi ~ RHF
..
..


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