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gil November 9th 04 10:47 PM

Noise on the bands
 
Over the last few days stations have slowly faded away with lots of
flutter and increasing static like noise almost like if someone were
running a motor non-stop. I am aware of the solar storm going on but
is the static like noise normal with this kind of conditions?


Gil

Radioman390 November 10th 04 01:30 AM

I am aware of the solar storm going on but
is the static like noise normal with this kind of conditions?


yes

Steve November 10th 04 03:52 AM

(gil) wrote in message . com...
Over the last few days stations have slowly faded away with lots of
flutter and increasing static like noise almost like if someone were
running a motor non-stop. I am aware of the solar storm going on but
is the static like noise normal with this kind of conditions?


Gil


Unfortunately the answer is "Yes". I don't know about the rest of you,
but I've had it up to here with the ionosphere!

Steve

Dyuob Poltice November 10th 04 04:29 AM

On 9 Nov 2004 19:52:31 -0800, (Steve) wrote:

(gil) wrote in message . com...
Over the last few days stations have slowly faded away with lots of
flutter and increasing static like noise almost like if someone were
running a motor non-stop. I am aware of the solar storm going on but
is the static like noise normal with this kind of conditions?


Gil


Unfortunately the answer is "Yes". I don't know about the rest of you,
but I've had it up to here with the ionosphere!

Steve


Me too.
And on Saturday conditions were so good.
Just the calm before the storm, I guess.

Jack Painter November 10th 04 06:52 AM

"gil" wrote
Over the last few days stations have slowly faded away with lots of
flutter and increasing static like noise almost like if someone were
running a motor non-stop. I am aware of the solar storm going on but
is the static like noise normal with this kind of conditions?


:Product: Geophysical Alert Message wwv.txt
:Issued: 2004 Nov 10 0603 UTC
# Prepared by the US Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, Space Environment Center
#
# Geophysical Alert Message
#
Solar-terrestrial indices for 09 November follow.
Solar flux 127 and mid-latitude A-index 91.
The mid-latitude K-index at 0600 UTC on 10 November was 7 (296 nT).

Space weather for the past 24 hours has been severe.
Geomagnetic storms reaching the G4 level occurred.
Solar radiation storms reaching the S2 level occurred.
Radio blackouts reaching the R3 level occurred.

Space weather for the next 24 hours is expected to be moderate.
Geomagnetic storms reaching the G2 level are expected.
Solar radiation storms reaching the S1 level are expected.
Radio blackouts reaching the R2 level are expected.

http://www.sec.noaa.gov/ftpmenu/latest.html

Other forecasts comment "M-Class flares likely, X-class possible". Yeh, like
the last two X'rs tonight that just shut down most SSB comms on the lower
frequencies!

Jack



bpnjensen November 10th 04 03:31 PM

"Jack Painter" wrote in message news:PUikd.39$IC3.17@lakeread02...
"gil" wrote
Over the last few days stations have slowly faded away with lots of
flutter and increasing static like noise almost like if someone were
running a motor non-stop. I am aware of the solar storm going on but
is the static like noise normal with this kind of conditions?


:Product: Geophysical Alert Message wwv.txt
:Issued: 2004 Nov 10 0603 UTC
# Prepared by the US Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, Space Environment Center
#
# Geophysical Alert Message
#
Solar-terrestrial indices for 09 November follow.
Solar flux 127 and mid-latitude A-index 91.
The mid-latitude K-index at 0600 UTC on 10 November was 7 (296 nT).

Space weather for the past 24 hours has been severe.
Geomagnetic storms reaching the G4 level occurred.
Solar radiation storms reaching the S2 level occurred.
Radio blackouts reaching the R3 level occurred.

Space weather for the next 24 hours is expected to be moderate.
Geomagnetic storms reaching the G2 level are expected.
Solar radiation storms reaching the S1 level are expected.
Radio blackouts reaching the R2 level are expected.

http://www.sec.noaa.gov/ftpmenu/latest.html

Other forecasts comment "M-Class flares likely, X-class possible". Yeh, like
the last two X'rs tonight that just shut down most SSB comms on the lower
frequencies!

Jack


I cannot speak for everyone, and YMMV - but here in California,
reception from 6 MHz down has been stellar the last few nights, with
tiny Latin American stations and several Africans all the way down to
90m coming through like crazy. Lots of noise, no doubt, but the
signals have been wonderful and ham reception on 3.5-4 MHz has been
gangbusters (mostly).

Above 6 MHz, a different story. Utterly dead, except for Radio Havana
Cuba.

Bruce Jensen

Bruce Jensen

MnMikew November 10th 04 03:33 PM


"Dyuob Poltice" wrote in message
...
On 9 Nov 2004 19:52:31 -0800, (Steve) wrote:

(gil) wrote in message

. com...
Over the last few days stations have slowly faded away with lots of
flutter and increasing static like noise almost like if someone were
running a motor non-stop. I am aware of the solar storm going on but
is the static like noise normal with this kind of conditions?


Gil


Unfortunately the answer is "Yes". I don't know about the rest of you,
but I've had it up to here with the ionosphere!

Steve


Me too.
And on Saturday conditions were so good.
Just the calm before the storm, I guess.


Any estimates when it will subside? Hope to do some DXing from deer camp in
Wisc. this weekend.



dxAce November 10th 04 03:37 PM



MnMikew wrote:

"Dyuob Poltice" wrote in message
...
On 9 Nov 2004 19:52:31 -0800, (Steve) wrote:

(gil) wrote in message

. com...
Over the last few days stations have slowly faded away with lots of
flutter and increasing static like noise almost like if someone were
running a motor non-stop. I am aware of the solar storm going on but
is the static like noise normal with this kind of conditions?


Gil

Unfortunately the answer is "Yes". I don't know about the rest of you,
but I've had it up to here with the ionosphere!

Steve


Me too.
And on Saturday conditions were so good.
Just the calm before the storm, I guess.


Any estimates when it will subside? Hope to do some DXing from deer camp in
Wisc. this weekend.


Possibly on Thursday.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



MnMikew November 10th 04 05:56 PM


"dxAce" wrote in message
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MnMikew wrote:

"Dyuob Poltice" wrote in message
...
On 9 Nov 2004 19:52:31 -0800, (Steve) wrote:

(gil) wrote in message

. com...
Over the last few days stations have slowly faded away with lots of
flutter and increasing static like noise almost like if someone

were
running a motor non-stop. I am aware of the solar storm going on

but
is the static like noise normal with this kind of conditions?


Gil

Unfortunately the answer is "Yes". I don't know about the rest of

you,
but I've had it up to here with the ionosphere!

Steve

Me too.
And on Saturday conditions were so good.
Just the calm before the storm, I guess.


Any estimates when it will subside? Hope to do some DXing from deer camp

in
Wisc. this weekend.


Possibly on Thursday.

Thanks Steve. Looks like I'll be able to treat the hunting buddys to a
little Alex Jones on Friday night. :-)



Alaska_Scanner November 10th 04 10:10 PM

Question for you all,

Im up here in Alaska and only have a yb400pe (w/ sony active antenna)
and for the last few days I havent been getting anything. Although
last night I was picking up Radio Australia on 13630 and for a little
bit on 15240, and an asian station on 9595. Now during the day I have
nothing. I know as the K & A indexs go up radio performance goes
down. Is this total blackout normal, and is it because of only having
a portable radio, and/or my location to the pole?

Thanks,

Alaska_Scanner

Stephen M.H. Lawrence November 10th 04 10:45 PM


"Alaska_Scanner" wrote in message
om...
| Question for you all,
|
| Im up here in Alaska and only have a yb400pe (w/ sony active antenna)
| and for the last few days I havent been getting anything. Although
| last night I was picking up Radio Australia on 13630 and for a little
| bit on 15240, and an asian station on 9595. Now during the day I have
| nothing. I know as the K & A indexs go up radio performance goes
| down. Is this total blackout normal, and is it because of only having
| a portable radio, and/or my location to the pole?
|
| Thanks,
|
| Alaska_Scanner

Yes, it's completely normal. I believe the A index is at 120,
and that's incredibly high.

73,

Steve Lawrence
KAØPMD
Burnsville, Minnesota

"If a man wants his dreams to come true then he must wake up."
- Anonymous


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Stephen M.H. Lawrence November 11th 04 05:16 PM

"Leonard Martin" wrote:
| OK, I'm ready for the flames.
| Now, what does the A index measure?
|
| Leonard

Changes in Earth's magnetic fields. As I understand it, the A Index
is a 24-hour average. Now, how do you use it? Well, speaking in
*general* terms (hold on here, I have to put on my asbestos skivvies),
an A index of less than 15 and a K index under 3 is going to yield good
HF (Shortwave) propagation. You'll also hear talk of solar flux.
Solar flux is a measurement of microwave radiation from the sun, and
*generally* can be used for predicting HF propagation - *if* you use
a smoothed average number.

I have a couple of really good links to share, if you found any of this
interesting.

73,

Steve Lawrence
KAØPMD
Burnsville, Minnesota

"If a man wants his dreams to come true then he must wake up."
- Anonymous


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