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Ron Hardin November 10th 04 10:35 AM

Mag storm
 
There was a pretty strong visible aurora in Central Ohio at 2-3am; at 5:30 the
AM band is wiped out, no WFAN 660 NYC in Central Ohio, not even any Cubans to
speak of. So N-S is wiped out too.
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dxAce November 10th 04 10:39 AM



Ron Hardin wrote:

There was a pretty strong visible aurora in Central Ohio at 2-3am; at 5:30 the
AM band is wiped out, no WFAN 660 NYC in Central Ohio, not even any Cubans to
speak of. So N-S is wiped out too.


Yeah, SW is pretty quiet today.

Hang on though, it'll clear up once again.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.



Ron Hardin November 10th 04 10:46 AM

Ron Hardin wrote:

There was a pretty strong visible aurora in Central Ohio at 2-3am; at 5:30 the
AM band is wiped out, no WFAN 660 NYC in Central Ohio, not even any Cubans to
speak of. So N-S is wiped out too.


WFAN faded back in strong at 5:43am faded out again and now is back at 5:45

the fading cycle seems to continue.

It was definitely flat gone from 5:30 till now though.

The reflecting layer is always there, so it must be high absorption. I wonder
if it's D-layer like daytime, or some other mechanism higher up.
--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

dxAce November 10th 04 10:48 AM



Ron Hardin wrote:

Ron Hardin wrote:

There was a pretty strong visible aurora in Central Ohio at 2-3am; at 5:30 the
AM band is wiped out, no WFAN 660 NYC in Central Ohio, not even any Cubans to
speak of. So N-S is wiped out too.


WFAN faded back in strong at 5:43am faded out again and now is back at 5:45

the fading cycle seems to continue.

It was definitely flat gone from 5:30 till now though.

The reflecting layer is always there, so it must be high absorption. I wonder
if it's D-layer like daytime, or some other mechanism higher up.


http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/dregion.html


--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.



dxAce November 10th 04 10:52 AM



dxAce wrote:

Ron Hardin wrote:

There was a pretty strong visible aurora in Central Ohio at 2-3am; at 5:30 the
AM band is wiped out, no WFAN 660 NYC in Central Ohio, not even any Cubans to
speak of. So N-S is wiped out too.


Yeah, SW is pretty quiet today.

Hang on though, it'll clear up once again.


3-day Solar-Geophysical Forecast issued Nov 9 at 22:00 UTC

Solar Activity Forecast: Solar activity is expected to be moderate to
high. Region 696 is expected to produce M-class flares, and X-class
flares are possible.

Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is expected to
be at unsettled to major storm conditions on 10-11 November. A CME
shock associated with the M8 flare observed today should arrive on 11
November. Activity should subside to quiet to active levels on 12
November.

http://sec.noaa.gov/today.html




dxAce
Michigan
USA


--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.



Ron Hardin November 10th 04 10:55 AM

dxAce wrote:

Ron Hardin wrote:

Ron Hardin wrote:

There was a pretty strong visible aurora in Central Ohio at 2-3am; at 5:30 the
AM band is wiped out, no WFAN 660 NYC in Central Ohio, not even any Cubans to
speak of. So N-S is wiped out too.


WFAN faded back in strong at 5:43am faded out again and now is back at 5:45

the fading cycle seems to continue.

It was definitely flat gone from 5:30 till now though.

The reflecting layer is always there, so it must be high absorption. I wonder
if it's D-layer like daytime, or some other mechanism higher up.


http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/dregion.html


No, that's from xrays. There aren't any at night.

This would be precipitation from ions, if it were to be D region, which
they wouldn't detect.

--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

dxAce November 10th 04 11:00 AM



Ron Hardin wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Ron Hardin wrote:

Ron Hardin wrote:

There was a pretty strong visible aurora in Central Ohio at 2-3am; at 5:30 the
AM band is wiped out, no WFAN 660 NYC in Central Ohio, not even any Cubans to
speak of. So N-S is wiped out too.

WFAN faded back in strong at 5:43am faded out again and now is back at 5:45

the fading cycle seems to continue.

It was definitely flat gone from 5:30 till now though.

The reflecting layer is always there, so it must be high absorption. I wonder
if it's D-layer like daytime, or some other mechanism higher up.


http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/dregion.html


No, that's from xrays. There aren't any at night.


Yes, I simply provided that for reference.



This would be precipitation from ions, if it were to be D region, which
they wouldn't detect.

--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.



Ron Hardin November 10th 04 03:45 PM

Ron Hardin wrote:

Ron Hardin wrote:

There was a pretty strong visible aurora in Central Ohio at 2-3am; at 5:30 the
AM band is wiped out, no WFAN 660 NYC in Central Ohio, not even any Cubans to
speak of. So N-S is wiped out too.


WFAN faded back in strong at 5:43am faded out again and now is back at 5:45

the fading cycle seems to continue.

It was definitely flat gone from 5:30 till now though.

The reflecting layer is always there, so it must be high absorption. I wonder
if it's D-layer like daytime, or some other mechanism higher up.


SO here's the question. There's some kind of absorption completely eliminating WFAN
from Central Ohio, at a time when it's normally loud like a local.

But at 05:42-05:46 WFAN surfaces twice, in a ``fade in,'' to tolerable levels;
for the rest of the time it's completely gone.

What can cause a fade in? Fade out is usual, and from competing paths. But
a fade in has to be disappearance of absorption, which somehow has to coordinate
over a wide area.

If it's D-layer, it would have some pretty long relaxation time, it seems to me.

audio of those surfacing 4 minutes http://rhhardin.home.mindspring.com/geostorm.ram
(before and after is pure noise, no signal)

--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.


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