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Lance Storm November 14th 04 04:11 PM

Reason why?
 
Why did Radio Deutsche Welle stop transmitting on SW in English?

Two weeks ago, I heard that Swiss Radio International was going to do the
same.

What will become of the shorwave bands?

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Volker Tonn November 14th 04 04:25 PM



Lance Storm schrieb:

Why did Radio Deutsche Welle stop transmitting on SW in English?


Because you guys should learn some german...

SCNR


Al Patrick November 14th 04 05:04 PM

Sadam, the Chinese, the Russians and now the Japanese have decided not
to support the U.S. dollar - at least to the extent it has been
supported in the past.

The English speaking politicians of America have decided NOT to close
off the borders though they claim to be fighting terrorism. Instead
they are spreading terrorism. We are supposed to become so terrorized
that we willingly give up ALL our rights to those who would gladly
destroy us. We even have to put on our coffee cups - in four different
languages - "Caution Hot" so that invaders no longer have to learn
English - or learn that coffee is SUPPOSED to be HOT.

Perhaps this is just one more step in phasing out the good ol' English
language just as there is an attempt to phase out the WASPs (White
Anglo-Saxon Protestants) and the God which they at one time served.
That was before they succumbed to the doctrines of Balaam.

Why should ANYONE broadcast in any language that they are attempting to
phase out? Perhaps we could now do completely away with ABC, NBC, CBS
and CNN except that they are needed to continue to lull us to sleep!

Good night! ;-)

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Lance Storm wrote:

Why did Radio Deutsche Welle stop transmitting on SW in English?

Two weeks ago, I heard that Swiss Radio International was going to do the
same.

What will become of the shorwave bands?


Brian Hill November 14th 04 05:29 PM


"Al Patrick" wrote in message
...
Sadam, the Chinese, the Russians and now the Japanese have decided not
to support the U.S. dollar - at least to the extent it has been
supported in the past.


Do you have any badly faked pictures to prove your point?

B.H.



Mike Terry November 14th 04 05:40 PM


"Lance Storm" wrote in message
news:0sLld.96248$R05.40249@attbi_s53...

What will become of the shorwave bands?


Lance,

Its sad but it does allow weaker power dx stations to be heard on sw. The
internet is fast taking over from sw radio. That's progress I suppose...

Mike



Al Patrick November 14th 04 06:15 PM

You wouldn't believe any evidence I presented so why bother? :-)

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Brian Hill wrote:

"Al Patrick" wrote in message
...

Sadam, the Chinese, the Russians and now the Japanese have decided not
to support the U.S. dollar - at least to the extent it has been
supported in the past.



Do you have any badly faked pictures to prove your point?

B.H.



Brian Hill November 14th 04 06:16 PM


"Al Patrick" wrote in message
...
You wouldn't believe any evidence I presented so why bother? :-)



True. ;)

B.H.



tommyknocker November 14th 04 11:00 PM

Lance Storm wrote:

Why did Radio Deutsche Welle stop transmitting on SW in English?

Two weeks ago, I heard that Swiss Radio International was going to do the
same.

What will become of the shorwave bands?


The Swiss have stopped broadcasting on SW altogether. There was recently
a post on this group that a Swiss amateur radio club is briefly using
the old SRI transmitters, but after that the whole operation will be
dismantled.

As for DW, they haven't totally stopped transmitting in English on SW,
but their current English SW broadcasts-mostly to Africa-are hard to
hear in North America. Like the BBC, DW management thinks SW is out of
date and is concentrating on the internet and satellite. The BBC has
stated that it isn't interested in being heard by ordinary people, only
the powerful, and they all have internet and satellite connections. I
suspect the same thinking is going on at DW. As for VOA, it's being
phased out in favor of music based services like Radio Sawa. Having
listened to Sawa's SW tx's, I can say that they sound a lot like an
American FM station, except with a little bit of "news" interspersed
with the music. Apparently the US govt thinks that the best way to turn
Muslim youth away from terrorism is to broadcast rap music to them. I
would think that that would create terrorists, not stop them.



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tommyknocker November 15th 04 02:40 AM

Dan wrote:

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 15:00:37 -0800, tommyknocker
wrote:

As for DW, they haven't totally stopped transmitting in English on SW,
but their current English SW broadcasts-mostly to Africa-are hard to
hear in North America. Like the BBC, DW management thinks SW is out of
date and is concentrating on the internet and satellite.


It's not that they "think SW is out of date" - SW *is* out of date.
Today's listeners are used to clean, digital sound. No one is
thrilled by chasing noisy, static-filled, fading signals these days.


You know, with sufficient relay stations, SW can be heard clearly
anywhere in the world. The big guys such as DW and BBC had relays that
allowed them to cover most of North America with great signals. VOA used
to have relays around the world that allowed them to penetrate even the
noisiest conditions, including the massive jamming operations of the
Soviet Bloc. Sure, it's not FM stereo, but stereo sound is necessary
only if you're listening to music. Unfortunately, the moguls and
managers who run many radio operations today are focused on music and
not the news and features that have been SW staples. VOA is being shut
down in favor of FM stations that carry American music, such as Radio
Sawa, which is broadcast mostly on local FM stations in the Middle East.
I remember reading a quote in an article on Sawa that said it best:
liking American music doesn't mean you like America. But the US
government seems to think otherwise. When the USSR fell, we learned that
the Soviet people wanted the news and information their own government
denied them, not rock music. Why should we think that people in the
Middle East, where most "news" is of the "non Muslims are evil and must
be killed, see this?" variety, are any different?

Internet and satellite broadcasting are where it's at these days. SW
broadcasting's days are numbered. We need to enjoy them while we can.


Internet broadcasting has one BIG problem, and that's bandwidth. I've
tried listening to streaming web radio for prolonged periods of time on
a 56k dialup connection, and the result is always the same-a gradual
degradation of signal quality due to "net congestion" that ends up with
the signal sounding mostly like BBs rattling around in a soup can. I
later learned that the rattling was a placeholder the program put
wherever the packets didn't make it, and after a while a LOT of packets
get dropped. As for satellite, as far as I know you have to subscribe to
it to get it, which leaves the people who can't pay the fees out of
luck. Did you know that half of humanity lives on less than $1 a day?
How do you expect them to pay for satellite radio, even if they want to
listen to every concievable style of American music there is?



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Steve November 15th 04 02:45 AM

"Mike Terry" wrote in message ...
"Lance Storm" wrote in message
news:0sLld.96248$R05.40249@attbi_s53...

What will become of the shorwave bands?


Lance,

Its sad but it does allow weaker power dx stations to be heard on sw. The
internet is fast taking over from sw radio. That's progress I suppose...

Mike


Good point...it does allow weaker stations to be heard, which is a
good thing.

Broadcasters will come and go, whether they broadcast over shortwave
or any other medium. I for one see no grounds for pessimism here.

Sometimes I have the sense that when people talk about the "future of
shortwave", what they really mean is the future of whatever large
broadcast stations they listen to on a regular basis--not the future
of the shortwave bands themselves. I see some reasons to be
pessimistic about (some of) the former (depending on their goals and
program content). I see no reason to be pessimistic about the latter.

Steve


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