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Robert St-Louis November 17th 04 10:14 PM

Panasonic RF-5000 (need AC adapter)
 
Hi all,
THis is my first message on this forum.

I recently purchased a National Panasonic RF-5000A shortwave receiver.
It works quite well. However, it didn't come with the AC adapter
normally fitted in those units. This means that I presently run it
off 6 D cell batteries. I tried plugging it through a wall-wart AC-DC
adapter but get a lot of hum.
Would anyone happen to have a spare Panasonic AC adapter for this
model that you would be willing to part with? The model number of the
AC Adapter (which fits inside the back of the radio) is RD-9451 (9vDC,
400mA).

Alternatively, if someone has suggestions for another way to get
(relatively) hum-free DC into it from house current, I'd love to hear
them.

Thanks, and best regards,
--Robert

DesignGuy November 17th 04 10:45 PM


"Robert St-Louis" wrote in message
om...
Hi all,
THis is my first message on this forum.

I recently purchased a National Panasonic RF-5000A shortwave receiver.
It works quite well. However, it didn't come with the AC adapter
normally fitted in those units. This means that I presently run it
off 6 D cell batteries. I tried plugging it through a wall-wart AC-DC
adapter but get a lot of hum.
Would anyone happen to have a spare Panasonic AC adapter for this
model that you would be willing to part with? The model number of the
AC Adapter (which fits inside the back of the radio) is RD-9451 (9vDC,
400mA).

Alternatively, if someone has suggestions for another way to get
(relatively) hum-free DC into it from house current, I'd love to hear
them.


Welcome!

Radio Shack sells replacement adapters. You'll need a 9V adapter with 400mA
minimum output. This assumes the six "D" cells are inserted in series (all
end-to-end).

Make sure the adapter is rated for audio equipment, to minimize hum. Here's
an 9V 800mA adapter which should work:

http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...uct%5Fid=273-1
770







DesignGuy November 17th 04 10:52 PM


"DesignGuy" wrote in message
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"Robert St-Louis" wrote in message
om...
Hi all,
THis is my first message on this forum.

I recently purchased a National Panasonic RF-5000A shortwave receiver.
It works quite well. However, it didn't come with the AC adapter
normally fitted in those units. This means that I presently run it
off 6 D cell batteries. I tried plugging it through a wall-wart AC-DC
adapter but get a lot of hum.
Would anyone happen to have a spare Panasonic AC adapter for this
model that you would be willing to part with? The model number of the
AC Adapter (which fits inside the back of the radio) is RD-9451 (9vDC,
400mA).

Alternatively, if someone has suggestions for another way to get
(relatively) hum-free DC into it from house current, I'd love to hear
them.


Welcome!

Radio Shack sells replacement adapters. You'll need a 9V adapter with

400mA
minimum output. This assumes the six "D" cells are inserted in series (all
end-to-end).

Make sure the adapter is rated for audio equipment, to minimize hum.

Here's
an 9V 800mA adapter which should work:


http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...uct%5Fid=273-1
770


Sorry, URL above was wrapped, try this:

http://tinyurl.com/3yt96





Lars Janqqvist November 17th 04 11:06 PM

Frightening the yaks, Robert St-Louis just had to say:

Hi all,
THis is my first message on this forum.


How-DEE!


Alternatively, if someone has suggestions for another way to get
(relatively) hum-free DC into it from house current, I'd love to hear
them.


If you don't mind a tiny bit of surgery on your current
converter....

Project requirements: electrolytic capacitor (see below); sharp
knife; voltmeter (or other polarity indicating device); soldering
iron & solder; electrician's tape.

Likely, it was designed for something that didn't care if the DC
was filtered or not. You can add in a nice electrolytic
capacitor to the cord that comes from the unit to filter the
power. You need to get a cap that's about 1000-2500 uF and rated
for at least 12 volts (35 would be more than enough.) Axial
style is best (leads sticking out of each end.)

And you'll need to know which is the positive and which is the
negative lead, so you should have some sort of voltmeter to
check.

Assuming the cord is two insulated wires laid side-by-side,
carefully cut between them to separate the two wires. This
should probably be close to the converter end. How long the
separation should be depends on the capacitor you have. Keep
reading and you'll know how to tell.

At one end of the split, carefully strip the insulation off the
wire for about 3/4" (2cm.) Temporarily wrap the bare wire around
one of the capacitor's leads. Next step is figuring out where to
strip the other wire so that the other lead can be wrapped with
the other wire. Try it and see where the wire needs to be
stripped; then go ahead and strip it.

Now, the polarity of the wired must be determined. Using
whatever means you have, figure which is positive and which
negative. The capacitor MUST be installed with its positive lead
to the positive wire. For a 9volt circuit, it wouldn't explode,
but it just wouldn't work well; with higher voltages there would
be real dangers.

Trim the leads of the capacitor to about 1/2" (1cm) then wrap the
bare lead wires around the appropriate ends of the cap and
solder. Use some black electrician's tape to completely cover
the added part.

All done!
--
To reply, DO NOT remove spam from the return address!

***************************
This calls for a careful blend of
clever psychology and extreme violence.
***************************

Yodar November 17th 04 11:51 PM

Lars Janqqvist wrote:
Frightening the yaks, Robert St-Louis just had to say:


Hi all,
THis is my first message on this forum.



How-DEE!



Alternatively, if someone has suggestions for another way to get
(relatively) hum-free DC into it from house current, I'd love to hear
them.



If you don't mind a tiny bit of surgery on your current
converter....

Project requirements: electrolytic capacitor (see below); sharp
knife; voltmeter (or other polarity indicating device); soldering
iron & solder; electrician's tape.

Likely, it was designed for something that didn't care if the DC
was filtered or not. You can add in a nice electrolytic
capacitor to the cord that comes from the unit to filter the
power. You need to get a cap that's about 1000-2500 uF and rated
for at least 12 volts (35 would be more than enough.) Axial
style is best (leads sticking out of each end.)

And you'll need to know which is the positive and which is the
negative lead, so you should have some sort of voltmeter to
check.

Assuming the cord is two insulated wires laid side-by-side,
carefully cut between them to separate the two wires. This
should probably be close to the converter end. How long the
separation should be depends on the capacitor you have. Keep
reading and you'll know how to tell.

At one end of the split, carefully strip the insulation off the
wire for about 3/4" (2cm.) Temporarily wrap the bare wire around
one of the capacitor's leads. Next step is figuring out where to
strip the other wire so that the other lead can be wrapped with
the other wire. Try it and see where the wire needs to be
stripped; then go ahead and strip it.

Now, the polarity of the wired must be determined. Using
whatever means you have, figure which is positive and which
negative. The capacitor MUST be installed with its positive lead
to the positive wire. For a 9volt circuit, it wouldn't explode,
but it just wouldn't work well; with higher voltages there would
be real dangers.

Trim the leads of the capacitor to about 1/2" (1cm) then wrap the
bare lead wires around the appropriate ends of the cap and
solder. Use some black electrician's tape to completely cover
the added part.

All done!
--
To reply, DO NOT remove spam from the return address!

***************************
This calls for a careful blend of
clever psychology and extreme violence.
***************************

THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE USUSUALLY EFFECTIVE,however in MY case I hadda
buy a few parts and make a 3-terminal regulator
LM317 REQUIRES HEAT SINK

Adjustable power supply using LM317


I +-------+ O
Vin (+) o-----+---| LM317 |---+--------------+-----o Vout (+)
| +-------+ | |
| | A / |
| | \ R1 = 240 |
| | / | ___
_|_ C1 | | +_|_ C2 |_0_| LM317
___ .01 +-------+ ___ 1 uF | | 1 -
Adjust
| uF | - | |___| 2 -
Output
| \ | ||| 3 -
Input
| / R2 | 123
| \ |
| | |
Vin(-) o------+-------+----------------------+-----o Vout (-)


For the LM317:
R2 = (192 x Vout) - 240, where R2 in ohms, Vout is in volts and must be
at between 1.2 V and 35 V.
Vin should be at least 2.5V greater than Vout. Select a wall adapter
with a voltage at least 2.5 V greater than your regulated output at full
load
Maximum output current is 1 A. Use proper heatsink for LM317 if it has
to dissipate more than 1W.
The tab of the LM317 is connected to the center pin.
Equation for calculating the output voltage when R1 and R2 are known:

Vout = 1.25V * (1 + R2/R1) + Iadj * R2

Where Iadj is typically in the range of 50 microamperes.


from

http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/search...?ID=472&ID=472

[email protected] November 18th 04 12:31 PM

Yodar wrote in message ...
Lars Janqqvist wrote:
Frightening the yaks, Robert St-Louis just had to say:


Alternatively, if someone has suggestions for another way to get
(relatively) hum-free DC into it from house current, I'd love to hear
them.



If you don't mind a tiny bit of surgery on your current
converter....


THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE USUSUALLY EFFECTIVE,however in MY case I hadda
buy a few parts and make a 3-terminal regulator
LM317 REQUIRES HEAT SINK



Thank you to both Lars and Tomi!
I'll try Lars' solution and if the results aren't totally satisfactory
with my setup, I might try Tomi's (which may be a little beyond my
electronics capabilities, but who knows...).
I'll do the surgery on my Radio Shack adapter this weekend. Looking
forward to getting into shortwave listening again (it's been 20-25
years since I've done much of it). My other installation will be a
suitable external antenna.
Cheers!!
--Robert

John S. November 18th 04 02:49 PM

I thought the power suppply was built in. Anyway the supply should be
rated 9v, 400ma.

Here's a pictu http://i6.ebayimg.com/02/i/02/c5/7d/d3_3.JPG

(Robert St-Louis) wrote in message . com...
Hi all,
THis is my first message on this forum.

I recently purchased a National Panasonic RF-5000A shortwave receiver.
It works quite well. However, it didn't come with the AC adapter
normally fitted in those units. This means that I presently run it
off 6 D cell batteries. I tried plugging it through a wall-wart AC-DC
adapter but get a lot of hum.
Would anyone happen to have a spare Panasonic AC adapter for this
model that you would be willing to part with? The model number of the
AC Adapter (which fits inside the back of the radio) is RD-9451 (9vDC,
400mA).

Alternatively, if someone has suggestions for another way to get
(relatively) hum-free DC into it from house current, I'd love to hear
them.

Thanks, and best regards,
--Robert



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