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tommyknocker November 21st 04 04:05 AM

Best SW stations for news?
 
I was wondering what all of you regularly listen to for news on SW. I'm
thinking of dusting off my Degen 1102 and seeing what I can hear that
comes in reliably. I'm in northern California. I'm sick of depending on
American TeeVee for news.



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uncle arnie November 21st 04 04:45 AM

BBC (America and Africa streams), RNL, DW, R Australia, Radio Havana Cuba,
Radio Polonia & Channel Africa on CBC 1 radio overnight. CBC on MW. Not
bothering with USA stations, can hear and see all of that without SW.

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 10:05 pm, tommyknocker posted to
rec.radio.shortwave: %MM

I was wondering what all of you regularly listen to for news on SW. I'm
thinking of dusting off my Degen 1102 and seeing what I can hear that
comes in reliably. I'm in northern California. I'm sick of depending on
American TeeVee for news.



tommyknocker November 21st 04 05:18 AM

uncle arnie wrote:

BBC (America and Africa streams), RNL, DW, R Australia, Radio Havana Cuba,
Radio Polonia & Channel Africa on CBC 1 radio overnight. CBC on MW. Not
bothering with USA stations, can hear and see all of that without SW.


Any MW from North of the Border is drowned out by all the locals on that
band. I live at the confluence of two major broadcasting markets. As for
the Netherlands, they cut their news bulletins a year or so ago in favor
of 30 minutes of prerecorded NewsLine. That and they tend to have
technical problems, at least on the Western NAm stream. Havana always
makes me feel like I'm in a time warp back to my days as a people's
vanguard in San Francisco-they sound a lot like my former comrades. Kind
of amusing now that I'm grown up, but I wouldn't want to listen to it
every night.


On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 10:05 pm, tommyknocker posted to
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I was wondering what all of you regularly listen to for news on SW. I'm
thinking of dusting off my Degen 1102 and seeing what I can hear that
comes in reliably. I'm in northern California. I'm sick of depending on
American TeeVee for news.





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Howard November 21st 04 05:23 AM

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 22:45:04 -0600, uncle arnie
-mex. wrote:

BBC (America and Africa streams), RNL, DW, R Australia, Radio Havana Cuba,
Radio Polonia & Channel Africa on CBC 1 radio overnight. CBC on MW. Not
bothering with USA stations, can hear and see all of that without SW.

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 10:05 pm, tommyknocker posted to
rec.radio.shortwave: %MM

I was wondering what all of you regularly listen to for news on SW. I'm
thinking of dusting off my Degen 1102 and seeing what I can hear that
comes in reliably. I'm in northern California. I'm sick of depending on
American TeeVee for news.

BBC is okay, though in my estimation they are turning (or perhaps have
already turned) into a mirror of how US news operates - the prime
difference being that you see the British slant versus American. DW
was always a favorite and I miss their programming (they no longer
target North America). Radio Netherlands is decent and an easy catch
also. Being as you're 'Pacific Rim' Australia is a good source of
news and so is Japan, South Korea and China - though you'll probably
hear China from a relay, I think they have one in Canada. Speaking of
Canada, our neighbors to the north have a different view of world
events than we do in the US so they too are worth listening to. Cuba
is fun, especially if you used to listen to Radio Moscow during the
height of the Cold War - Cuba will remind you of those days.

Happy Listening,
Howard

Frank Dresser November 21st 04 06:23 AM


"tommyknocker" wrote in message
...
I was wondering what all of you regularly listen to for news on SW. I'm
thinking of dusting off my Degen 1102 and seeing what I can hear that
comes in reliably. I'm in northern California. I'm sick of depending on
American TeeVee for news.




WWCR, WWRB, WHRI, WMRI




Frank White November 21st 04 02:54 PM

In article , says...

I was wondering what all of you regularly listen to for news on SW. I'm
thinking of dusting off my Degen 1102 and seeing what I can hear that
comes in reliably. I'm in northern California. I'm sick of depending on
American TeeVee for news.


Let's see...

The BBC, Radio Netherlands, Radio Habana (for news American
broadcast stations won't touch with a 10 foot pole), Taiwan,
Japan, Australia, Canada...

I also like to tune into Radio Ireland via streaming audio
to hear what they're fighting about today. ^_^

FW


RHF November 21st 04 07:40 PM

= = = tommyknocker wrote in message
= = = ...
uncle arnie wrote:

BBC (America and Africa streams), RNL, DW, R Australia, Radio Havana Cuba,
Radio Polonia & Channel Africa on CBC 1 radio overnight. CBC on MW. Not
bothering with USA stations, can hear and see all of that without SW.


Any MW from North of the Border is drowned out by all the locals on that
band. I live at the confluence of two major broadcasting markets. As for
the Netherlands, they cut their news bulletins a year or so ago in favor
of 30 minutes of prerecorded NewsLine. That and they tend to have
technical problems, at least on the Western NAm stream. Havana always
makes me feel like I'm in a time warp back to my days as a people's
vanguard in San Francisco-they sound a lot like my former comrades. Kind
of amusing now that I'm grown up, but I wouldn't want to listen to it
every night.



TK,

I can generally pick-up CBK 540 kHz (SK) and CBU 690 kHz (BC)
from Canada for the "OverNight" International News Programming;
down here in the SF Bay Area in the wee-hours of most mornings.
RADIO-ONE-CANADA= http://tinyurl.com/3lse4

NOTE: Most Internaional Shortwave Broadcasts BBC, DW, RCI, ABC,
RNZ, NHK, CRI, VOR, VOA, etc are the easier catches.

The Internet is the easier listen.
OVERNIGHT= http://www.cbc.ca/overnight/
Radio One - Canada - Streaming Audio:
AUDIO= http://www.cbc.ca/listen/streams/r1_victoria.html

Finding "Radio Canada" Radio Station Frequencies:
http://www.cbc.ca/frequency/

CBC on Shortwave {Interior} to the Great White North
http://www.cbc.ca/frequency/shortwave.html

Radio Canada International English Broadcast Schedule and Frequencies
http://www.rcinet.ca/rci/PDF/B04_RCI-1_24h.pdf
RCI-ALL= http://www.rcinet.ca/rci/en/horaires.shtml


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Kenwood R-5000 with a Kiwa MW Air Core Loop Antenna
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 10:05 pm, tommyknocker posted to
rec.radio.shortwave: %MM

I was wondering what all of you regularly listen to for news on SW. I'm
thinking of dusting off my Degen 1102 and seeing what I can hear that
comes in reliably. I'm in northern California. I'm sick of depending on
American TeeVee for news.





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Dan Say November 21st 04 09:56 PM

Frank Dresser wrote:

"tommyknocker" wrote in message
...
I was wondering what all of you regularly listen to for news on
SW. I'm thinking of dusting off my Degen 1102 and seeing what I
can hear that comes in reliably. I'm in northern California.
I'm sick of depending on American TeeVee for news.


WWCR, WWRB, WHRI, WMRI


WWV, WWVH, CHU, BMP

Well, this is a sw newsgroup and those stations do
cover sw propagation news.
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David November 21st 04 11:45 PM

World Radio Network is widely available:

http://www.wrn.org/listeners/station...p?StationID=50



dxAce November 21st 04 11:49 PM



David wrote:

World Radio Network is widely available:

http://www.wrn.org/listeners/station...p?StationID=50


Is WRN on shortwave, 'tard boy?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David November 22nd 04 01:44 AM

All of the stations on WRN are current or former SW Broadcasters.
They carry many of the stations mentioned elsewhere in the thread,
friend.

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 18:49:13 -0500, dxAce wrote:



David wrote:

World Radio Network is widely available:

http://www.wrn.org/listeners/station...p?StationID=50


Is WRN on shortwave, 'tard boy?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce November 22nd 04 10:35 AM



David wrote:

All of the stations on WRN are current or former SW Broadcasters.
They carry many of the stations mentioned elsewhere in the thread,
friend.


Yes... But WRN is not on shortwave. Please, please, try to pay attention.



On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 18:49:13 -0500, dxAce wrote:



David wrote:

World Radio Network is widely available:

http://www.wrn.org/listeners/station...p?StationID=50


Is WRN on shortwave, 'tard boy?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David November 22nd 04 02:14 PM

Please try to ****-off and die, Asshole.

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 05:35:13 -0500, dxAce wrote:




Yes... But WRN is not on shortwave. Please, please, try to pay attention.



dxAce November 22nd 04 02:16 PM



David wrote:

Please try to ****-off and die, Asshole.


I'll try to keep your comments in mind, 'tard boy.

Now, why don't you just take your little 'tard boy ass off to work and make some
more bad TV.

You get back to me at some point when you get the radio thing figured out.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David November 22nd 04 04:52 PM

I'm not in creative. Just keeping the pictures pretty.

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:16:24 -0500, dxAce wrote:



David wrote:

Please try to ****-off and die, Asshole.


I'll try to keep your comments in mind, 'tard boy.

Now, why don't you just take your little 'tard boy ass off to work and make some
more bad TV.

You get back to me at some point when you get the radio thing figured out.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Mark Zenier November 22nd 04 06:23 PM

In article , dxAce wrote:


David wrote:

World Radio Network is widely available:

http://www.wrn.org/listeners/station...p?StationID=50


Is WRN on shortwave, 'tard boy?


The Radio Canada International afternoon DRM transmission schedule
on 9800 sure looks like it might be fed from WRN.

Mark Zenier Washington State resident



m II November 25th 04 01:20 AM

Leonard Martin wrote:

I'll try to keep your comments in mind, 'tard boy.

Now, why don't you just take your little 'tard boy ass off to work and make
some
more bad TV.

You get back to me at some point when you get the radio thing figured out.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Oh joy!
Another plonkee!
(Because even in east Texas in the '50s only poor white trash called
EVERYONE nasty names!)



The 'Ace' has been doing it ever since he moved from Gilmer. He was
taught good.





mike

dxAce November 25th 04 01:27 AM



m II wrote:

Leonard Martin wrote:

I'll try to keep your comments in mind, 'tard boy.

Now, why don't you just take your little 'tard boy ass off to work and make
some
more bad TV.

You get back to me at some point when you get the radio thing figured out.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Oh joy!
Another plonkee!
(Because even in east Texas in the '50s only poor white trash called
EVERYONE nasty names!)


The 'Ace' has been doing it ever since he moved from Gilmer. He was
taught good.


Indeed. I actually paid attention.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



Brian Hill November 25th 04 01:51 AM


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


m II wrote:

Leonard Martin wrote:

I'll try to keep your comments in mind, 'tard boy.

Now, why don't you just take your little 'tard boy ass off to work and

make
some
more bad TV.

You get back to me at some point when you get the radio thing figured

out.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Oh joy!
Another plonkee!
(Because even in east Texas in the '50s only poor white trash called
EVERYONE nasty names!)


The 'Ace' has been doing it ever since he moved from Gilmer. He was
taught good.


Indeed. I actually paid attention.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



Should I add him to the truckload for the guitar?

B.H.



Steve Silverwood November 29th 04 03:31 AM

In article , says...
I was wondering what all of you regularly listen to for news on SW. I'm
thinking of dusting off my Degen 1102 and seeing what I can hear that
comes in reliably. I'm in northern California. I'm sick of depending on
American TeeVee for news.


I agree. Domestic media is often liberally-biased, not to mention
America-centric. I often enjoy hearing what those in other countries
have to say about world events. It's often very eye-opening.

My short list of excellent news sources on shortwave:

BBC
Voice of America
Radio Netherlands
Deutsche Welle
Radio Taiwan
NHK Radio Japan
Radio Canada International
Radio Australia
Radio New Zealand International
Voice of Russia

Those all give pretty straightforward news reports. For news reports
that are somewhat slanted, you'll find Radio Havana Cuba and China Radio
International interesting.

Voice of Russia (formerly Radio Moscow) would have been in the
"slanted" list but they have been doing a commendable job in recent
years of striving for fair-and-balanced reporting. They're not quite at
the point where the VOA or BBC are, but that's probably because of
external (i.e., government) influences and not any fault of the
journalists themselves. Good job, guys!

--

-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:


David November 29th 04 01:05 PM

If you think American mainstream media is ''liberal biased'' you must
walk without bending your knees and have a closet full of brown
shirts.

American media is totally dominated by corporate propaganda and fluff
pieces. It is infotainment at best and calculated to make the viewer
stupid.


On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:31:26 -0800, Steve Silverwood
wrote:

In article , says...
I was wondering what all of you regularly listen to for news on SW. I'm
thinking of dusting off my Degen 1102 and seeing what I can hear that
comes in reliably. I'm in northern California. I'm sick of depending on
American TeeVee for news.


I agree. Domestic media is often liberally-biased, not to mention
America-centric. I often enjoy hearing what those in other countries
have to say about world events. It's often very eye-opening.

My short list of excellent news sources on shortwave:

BBC
Voice of America
Radio Netherlands
Deutsche Welle
Radio Taiwan
NHK Radio Japan
Radio Canada International
Radio Australia
Radio New Zealand International
Voice of Russia

Those all give pretty straightforward news reports. For news reports
that are somewhat slanted, you'll find Radio Havana Cuba and China Radio
International interesting.

Voice of Russia (formerly Radio Moscow) would have been in the
"slanted" list but they have been doing a commendable job in recent
years of striving for fair-and-balanced reporting. They're not quite at
the point where the VOA or BBC are, but that's probably because of
external (i.e., government) influences and not any fault of the
journalists themselves. Good job, guys!



Steve Silverwood November 29th 04 07:51 PM

In article ,
says...
I no issue with "liberally-biased" media.


I would much prefer a [news-reporting] media that isn't biased in any
way. Just give me the facts and let me do my own analysis, thank you
very much.

--

-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:


Volker Tonn November 29th 04 09:08 PM



bug schrieb:

I would much prefer a [news-reporting] media that isn't biased in any
way.


Hard (or IMHO impossible) to find.
Tell us when you (seem to) have found such.

Good luck.


tommyknocker November 29th 04 09:57 PM

bug wrote:

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:31:26 -0800, Steve Silverwood
wrote:

In article , says...
I was wondering what all of you regularly listen to for news on SW. I'm
thinking of dusting off my Degen 1102 and seeing what I can hear that
comes in reliably. I'm in northern California. I'm sick of depending on
American TeeVee for news.


I agree. Domestic media is often liberally-biased,


As a liberal with some conservative leanings -- I support a strong
national defense, I support handgun ownership for non-felons, etc. --
I no issue with "liberally-biased" media.

It's the right-wing, fundamentalist who really want a Christian
theocracy in the U.S. that scare the **** outta me!


And the sad part is, those people seem to be in control now, and the
rest of the population seems to have given their assent to a fascist
fundamentalist government. Someday the American people will realize that
"free speech for me but not for you" isn't a great idea, but by then it
will be too late. It wouldn't matter if the US wasn't the only remaining
superpower, a corrupt fascist military power sitting astride the world
like Rome and doing whatever it wants simply because it can, and having
the support of its ignorant populace to do so.



bug




not to mention
America-centric. I often enjoy hearing what those in other countries
have to say about world events. It's often very eye-opening.

My short list of excellent news sources on shortwave:

BBC
Voice of America
Radio Netherlands
Deutsche Welle
Radio Taiwan
NHK Radio Japan
Radio Canada International
Radio Australia
Radio New Zealand International
Voice of Russia

Those all give pretty straightforward news reports. For news reports
that are somewhat slanted, you'll find Radio Havana Cuba and China Radio
International interesting.

Voice of Russia (formerly Radio Moscow) would have been in the
"slanted" list but they have been doing a commendable job in recent
years of striving for fair-and-balanced reporting. They're not quite at
the point where the VOA or BBC are, but that's probably because of
external (i.e., government) influences and not any fault of the
journalists themselves. Good job, guys!






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tommyknocker November 29th 04 10:02 PM

David wrote:

If you think American mainstream media is ''liberal biased'' you must
walk without bending your knees and have a closet full of brown
shirts.

American media is totally dominated by corporate propaganda and fluff
pieces. It is infotainment at best and calculated to make the viewer
stupid.


My grandparents can remember when "news" used to be 15 minutes long. Now
we have 24 hour news channels-all "news", all the time.



On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:31:26 -0800, Steve Silverwood
wrote:

In article , says...
I was wondering what all of you regularly listen to for news on SW. I'm
thinking of dusting off my Degen 1102 and seeing what I can hear that
comes in reliably. I'm in northern California. I'm sick of depending on
American TeeVee for news.


I agree. Domestic media is often liberally-biased, not to mention
America-centric. I often enjoy hearing what those in other countries
have to say about world events. It's often very eye-opening.

My short list of excellent news sources on shortwave:

BBC
Voice of America
Radio Netherlands
Deutsche Welle
Radio Taiwan
NHK Radio Japan
Radio Canada International
Radio Australia
Radio New Zealand International
Voice of Russia

Those all give pretty straightforward news reports. For news reports
that are somewhat slanted, you'll find Radio Havana Cuba and China Radio
International interesting.

Voice of Russia (formerly Radio Moscow) would have been in the
"slanted" list but they have been doing a commendable job in recent
years of striving for fair-and-balanced reporting. They're not quite at
the point where the VOA or BBC are, but that's probably because of
external (i.e., government) influences and not any fault of the
journalists themselves. Good job, guys!





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bpnjensen November 29th 04 10:03 PM

Steve Silverwood wrote in message et...
My short list of excellent news sources on shortwave:

BBC
Voice of America
Radio Netherlands
Deutsche Welle
Radio Taiwan
NHK Radio Japan
Radio Canada International
Radio Australia
Radio New Zealand International
Voice of Russia

Those all give pretty straightforward news reports. For news reports
that are somewhat slanted, you'll find Radio Havana Cuba and China Radio
International interesting.

Voice of Russia (formerly Radio Moscow) would have been in the
"slanted" list but they have been doing a commendable job in recent
years of striving for fair-and-balanced reporting. They're not quite at
the point where the VOA or BBC are, but that's probably because of
external (i.e., government) influences and not any fault of the
journalists themselves. Good job, guys!


You forgot Voice of Korea. They may suffer from the same problems
that linger at VoR, but *dang* they're hilarious to listen to.

Amazingly, China Radio International, while still soft-pedaling its
own internal national problems, is much better than decades ago. They
seem, on the surface anyway, to be aiming more for gentle persuasion
and ideological moderation rather than hard-line bullyragging.

A special note for the Aussies and Kiwis - they insert a wry sense of
fun into all their "live" programming that is irresistible, and
reminiscent of the good old days when everyone wasn't so PC and knew a
laugh was worth a few-bucks-worth of wattpower. The news from down
under is always worth a listen just for the quips. Sort of like Radio
Nederland and RCI were 20 years ago.

Bruce Jensen

JuLiE Dxer November 30th 04 02:14 AM

On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:51:56 -0800, Steve Silverwood
wrote:

In article ,
says...
I no issue with "liberally-biased" media.


I would much prefer a [news-reporting] media that isn't biased in any
way. Just give me the facts and let me do my own analysis, thank you
very much.



Exactly!

David November 30th 04 01:38 PM

Your grandparents news had more relevant contents. BTW, I remember
when the 11P News went from 15 to 30 minutes.

On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:02:42 -0800, tommyknocker
wrote:

David wrote:

If you think American mainstream media is ''liberal biased'' you must
walk without bending your knees and have a closet full of brown
shirts.

American media is totally dominated by corporate propaganda and fluff
pieces. It is infotainment at best and calculated to make the viewer
stupid.


My grandparents can remember when "news" used to be 15 minutes long. Now
we have 24 hour news channels-all "news", all the time.



On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:31:26 -0800, Steve Silverwood
wrote:

In article , says...
I was wondering what all of you regularly listen to for news on SW. I'm
thinking of dusting off my Degen 1102 and seeing what I can hear that
comes in reliably. I'm in northern California. I'm sick of depending on
American TeeVee for news.

I agree. Domestic media is often liberally-biased, not to mention
America-centric. I often enjoy hearing what those in other countries
have to say about world events. It's often very eye-opening.

My short list of excellent news sources on shortwave:

BBC
Voice of America
Radio Netherlands
Deutsche Welle
Radio Taiwan
NHK Radio Japan
Radio Canada International
Radio Australia
Radio New Zealand International
Voice of Russia

Those all give pretty straightforward news reports. For news reports
that are somewhat slanted, you'll find Radio Havana Cuba and China Radio
International interesting.

Voice of Russia (formerly Radio Moscow) would have been in the
"slanted" list but they have been doing a commendable job in recent
years of striving for fair-and-balanced reporting. They're not quite at
the point where the VOA or BBC are, but that's probably because of
external (i.e., government) influences and not any fault of the
journalists themselves. Good job, guys!





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[email protected] November 30th 04 02:20 PM

Most,if not all,domestic "news" on tv and radio is spoon fed news from
fed govt "ministry of propaganda" lapdogs.
cuhulin


Steve Silverwood November 30th 04 05:03 PM

In article ,
says...
I would much prefer a [news-reporting] media that isn't biased in any
way.


Hard (or IMHO impossible) to find.
Tell us when you (seem to) have found such.

Good luck.


Actually, I think the Christian Science Monitor was well known for
providing such news. Too bad they've left the SW broadcasting scene.

--

-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:


Steve Silverwood November 30th 04 05:05 PM

In article ,
says...
You forgot Voice of Korea. They may suffer from the same problems
that linger at VoR, but *dang* they're hilarious to listen to.


It's been a long time since I managed to be listening at the right time
to pick them up and listen to their broadcasts. Only left them out
because of lack of first-hand listening experience.

--

-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:


Steve Silverwood November 30th 04 05:05 PM

In article ,
says...
I would much prefer a [news-reporting] media that isn't
biased in any way. Just give me the facts and let me do my
own analysis, thank you very much.


Were there such a news organization...

As Sponge-Bob would say with cheerful sincerity:
"Well - Good Luck With That!"


Hope springs eternal....

--

-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:


m II November 30th 04 05:16 PM

Leonard Martin wrote:

The 'Ace' has been doing it ever since he moved from Gilmer. He was
taught good.



Hey, I have relatives from there. I wonder if they're related to the Ace?



Not unless they have tails.

ooops..sorry..The 'Ace' has been extremely well behaved for the last
little while, except for one tiny, forgivable, slip. I have to respect
his self control and continue to refrain from petty, insensitive insults.


mike (the sensitive) II

dxAce November 30th 04 05:20 PM



m II wrote:

Leonard Martin wrote:

The 'Ace' has been doing it ever since he moved from Gilmer. He was
taught good.



Hey, I have relatives from there. I wonder if they're related to the Ace?


Not unless they have tails.

ooops..sorry..The 'Ace' has been extremely well behaved for the last
little while, except for one tiny, forgivable, slip. I have to respect
his self control and continue to refrain from petty, insensitive insults.


Stuff it, 'tard boy.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



RHF November 30th 04 05:52 PM

= = = David wrote in message
= = = . ..

Your grandparents news had more relevant contents.

BTW, I remember when the 11P News went from 15 to 30 minutes.


DAVID,

I Remember When . . .

There was 'NO' 11 PM News [.]

jftfoi ~ RHF
..
..

[email protected] November 30th 04 05:58 PM

I remember when the first tv station came to this city about fifty
something years ago and when I turned on my tv set in the mornings there
was nothing but a test pattern on there for the first two hours or so
and after the 10:00 PM news,it was lights out,no tv till the next
morning.
cuhulin


Mark Zenier November 30th 04 06:05 PM

In article ,
Steve Silverwood wrote:
In article ,
says...
I no issue with "liberally-biased" media.


I would much prefer a [news-reporting] media that isn't biased in any
way. Just give me the facts and let me do my own analysis, thank you
very much.


But the facts can often make no sense at all without context, and
what context the news organization provides is where most of the
bias comes in.

One thing that's sneaked into the mix is that the US media is so damn
lazy and goes to the Republican affiliated Washington DC think tanks for
commentary to provide this context. Where on an overseas station, like
Radio Aus. or Radio Netherlands, you'll hear a university professor,
on American media you get the background from some guy from some outfit
with "Enterprise" in the name, who is funded by a corporate grant and
directed ideologically by the Republican party apparatus. Even if there
is a more objective commentator, they often get paired in a "Cock Fight"
with one of these mercenary propagandists. (A situation most professors
aren't going to repeat).

Mark Zenier
Washington State resident


David November 30th 04 07:01 PM

Well when I first started watching the Tonight Show regularly the band
played for 15 minutes at 10:15 (Arizona Time) for markets where the
local news was 15 minutes, which KVAR was doing at that time.

On 30 Nov 2004 09:52:21 -0800, (RHF) wrote:

= = = David wrote in message
= = = . ..

Your grandparents news had more relevant contents.

BTW, I remember when the 11P News went from 15 to 30 minutes.


DAVID,

I Remember When . . .

There was 'NO' 11 PM News [.]

jftfoi ~ RHF
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m II December 1st 04 02:44 AM

dxAce wrote:


Stuff it, 'tard boy.



sigh...

Steve Silverwood December 1st 04 02:56 PM

In article ,
says...
I remember when the first tv station came to this city about fifty
something years ago and when I turned on my tv set in the mornings there
was nothing but a test pattern on there for the first two hours or so
and after the 10:00 PM news,it was lights out,no tv till the next
morning.


Now they fill the air time with infomercials.... This is progress?

--

-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:



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