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Mike Terry November 21st 04 08:08 PM

Has shortwave got a future?
 
Will dx become more interesting as the power blasters close down in favour
of internet and satellite?

Things could be getting exciting for dxers.

What do you think?

73s

Mike




David November 22nd 04 03:31 PM

I fully agree.

On 21 Nov 2004 20:08:24 GMT, "Mike Terry"
wrote:

Will dx become more interesting as the power blasters close down in favour
of internet and satellite?

Things could be getting exciting for dxers.

What do you think?

73s

Mike




Steve November 22nd 04 03:31 PM

"Mike Terry" wrote in message ...
Will dx become more interesting as the power blasters close down in favour
of internet and satellite?

Things could be getting exciting for dxers.

What do you think?

73s

Mike


I think this could happen, though I suspect that when a certain
'critical mass' of major broadcasters leave shortwave, the resulting
vacuum will draw in others or perhaps convince some, who earlier shut
down, to start up again. But whatever happens, I think there'll always
plenty of interest to listen to on shortwave....unless broadband over
powerlines completely destroys everything.

Steve


m II November 22nd 04 03:31 PM

Mike Terry wrote:

Will dx become more interesting as the power blasters close down in favour
of internet and satellite?



The possibility of having to learn another language is very real. I
see radio being used to cover large areas which are not profitable to
wire for cable and phone. Many parts of South America, The Middle East
and Asia come to mind. There are many more sub locales, I'm sure.

The use of the major European languages will continue to decline,
Spanish excluded.




mike


Korbin Dallas November 22nd 04 03:31 PM

You can forger SW once the BPL Systems are up and delivering a 4 th
Broadband connection to Urban homes.

Korbin

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 20:08:24 +0000, Mike Terry wrote:

Will dx become more interesting as the power blasters close down in favour
of internet and satellite?

Things could be getting exciting for dxers.

What do you think?

73s

Mike



Art Clemons November 22nd 04 03:31 PM

Mike Terry wrote:

Will dx become more interesting as the power blasters close down in
favour of internet and satellite?

Things could be getting exciting for dxers.


I suggest that without the big name broadcasters to draw folks to
broadcasting, there will be lesser listenership and less reason for dx
stations to remain on the air. Broadcasting is expensive as all
getout, especially for poor countries. The justification for reaching
listeners outside said poor country is slowly fading away and with the
internet, cd distribution and the like, the need to listen to shortwave
for music and entertainment is slowly fading away too.

I'ld love to see SW broadcasting remain, I'm not always near an internet
connection and all too many of the SW broadcasters I used to regularly
listen to, now have skimpy or no signals with me using better receivers
than I even dreamed about when I first started listening years ago. I
just don't see it continuing for long.


Mark November 22nd 04 03:31 PM

Interesting question. Suppose with some of the bigger powerful stations out
of the way, we might hear some of the quieter ones that we never could
before!

That would be something good coming out of something bad!

Mark.
Auckland
New Zealand.

"Mike Terry" wrote in message
...
Will dx become more interesting as the power blasters close down in favour
of internet and satellite?

Things could be getting exciting for dxers.

What do you think?

73s

Mike







Al Patrick November 22nd 04 03:32 PM

I think you might be right -- provided someone doesn't create a lot of
static for the SW spectrum. This is what some predict concerning
broadcasting over the power lines, whatever that is called. (Man, the
"senior moments" are something! ;-) )

Mike Terry wrote:
Will dx become more interesting as the power blasters close down in favour
of internet and satellite?

Things could be getting exciting for dxers.

What do you think?

73s

Mike





Frank Dresser November 23rd 04 12:05 AM


"Mike Terry" wrote in message
...
Will dx become more interesting as the power blasters close down in favour
of internet and satellite?

Things could be getting exciting for dxers.

What do you think?

73s

Mike




The evangelists will be on shortwave as long as they think there are a few
people out there listening to SW radio. As government and commercial
concerns lose interest in SW, it's conceivable that others will fill the
vacuum with inexpensive pirate operations based on ham radio gear.

Frank Dresser



m II November 23rd 04 12:05 AM

Al Patrick wrote:

I think you might be right -- provided someone doesn't create a lot of
static for the SW spectrum. This is what some predict concerning
broadcasting over the power lines, whatever that is called. (Man, the
"senior moments" are something! ;-) )




There, there..Let's go have another hot cocoa...






mike


Telamon November 23rd 04 07:03 AM

In article ,
Art Clemons wrote:

Mike Terry wrote:

Will dx become more interesting as the power blasters close down in
favour of internet and satellite?

Things could be getting exciting for dxers.


I suggest that without the big name broadcasters to draw folks to
broadcasting, there will be lesser listenership and less reason for dx
stations to remain on the air. Broadcasting is expensive as all
getout, especially for poor countries. The justification for reaching
listeners outside said poor country is slowly fading away and with the
internet, cd distribution and the like, the need to listen to shortwave
for music and entertainment is slowly fading away too.

I'ld love to see SW broadcasting remain, I'm not always near an internet
connection and all too many of the SW broadcasters I used to regularly
listen to, now have skimpy or no signals with me using better receivers
than I even dreamed about when I first started listening years ago. I
just don't see it continuing for long.


The Internet being the end of short wave is an old refrain. I have not
tried streaming news from the BBC web site lately but in the past it has
been just terrible and I have a DSL connection. Audio and video was full
of artifacts and slow. Audio from the BBC sounds much better over short
wave than over the Internet.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


Scott Dorsey November 23rd 04 07:03 AM

Mike Terry wrote:
Will dx become more interesting as the power blasters close down in favour
of internet and satellite?

Things could be getting exciting for dxers.

What do you think?


I think that unless the FCC starts actually enforcing Part 15 regulations
for a change, that QRM is going to be more of an issue in the future than
interference from the powerhouse shortwave stations.

I also think that MW DXing is either going to be dealt a huge blow from
IBOC, or it's going to be considerably improved by the stations reducing
channel bandwidth in preparation for IBOC. It's certainly going to change.

But, much as we are disturbed by the impending implementation of BPL, it
is no worse than many other interference sources which are currently illegal
and about which the FCC does nothing. These problems will just continue
getting worse. Touch lamps a mile away are clearly audible on 80M here.
Now imagine that multiplied a millionfold in an urban area. You think
Wal-Mart cares that they are selling products that don't meet FCC regulations?
You think the FCC even cares?
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."


Steve November 24th 04 05:51 PM

Telamon wrote in message

It is an old refrain, and I don't understand it. If you ask every
SWLer why they listen to news via shortwave, how many of them would
say, "Because it's not available over the internet"? Few if any, I
suspect. People listen to the news via shortwave because they like
listening to shortwave and like the news services that shortwave makes
available. Period.

I'd also like to point out that I returned to shortwave listening
after being away from it for many years. Why did I return? Because of
shortwave related information that I came across ON THE INTERNET! And
indeed, it seems to me that the internet could be the best thing that
ever happened to ham radio and SWLing. We, and the organizations that
represent us, just have to USE the internet to educate people about
our fascinating hobbies. If you put the information out there, people
will be drawn to it. That's just the way it is.

It seems to me that the internet could be precisely the thing that
saves SWLing!

Steve


Yodar November 24th 04 09:08 PM

Me too. Last Radio I had was a Hally S40 B

If I hadnt chanced upon Radiointel.com I wouldnt have known about the
Radio shack $99.00 sale ATS 909

Yodar


Steve wrote:
..

I'd also like to point out that I returned to shortwave listening
after being away from it for many years. Why did I return? Because of
shortwave related information that I came across ON THE INTERNET! And
indeed, it seems to me that the internet could be the best thing that
ever happened to ham radio and SWLing. We, and the organizations that
represent us, just have to USE the internet to educate people about
our fascinating hobbies. If you put the information out there, people
will be drawn to it. That's just the way it is.

It seems to me that the internet could be precisely the thing that
saves SWLing!

Steve



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