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I'm addicted to Shortwave
Even when listening to songs, I prefer to shortwave to CD. Most of my friends
think I'm nuts when they hear me listening to Beethoven on BBC on 15.310 MHz instead of tuning on 100 MHz stereo. Any suggestions? |
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Jim wrote: Even when listening to songs, I prefer to shortwave to CD. Most of my friends think I'm nuts when they hear me listening to Beethoven on BBC on 15.310 MHz instead of tuning on 100 MHz stereo. Any suggestions? No suggestions, but a prediction: You will eventually go back to preferring Beethoven on FM stereo. But you will never stop being addicted to shortwave radio. Tony |
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-- The Anon Keyboard I doubt, therefore I might be "Jim" wrote in message om... Even when listening to songs, I prefer to shortwave to CD. Most of my friends think I'm nuts when they hear me listening to Beethoven on BBC on 15.310 MHz instead of tuning on 100 MHz stereo. Any suggestions? |
bug wrote:
On 21 Nov 2004 17:57:40 -0800, (Jim) wrote: Even when listening to songs, I prefer to shortwave to CD. Most of my friends think I'm nuts when they hear me listening to Beethoven on BBC on 15.310 MHz instead of tuning on 100 MHz stereo. Any suggestions? No, suggestions, but a curiosity. Why do you prefer listening to songs on shortwave versus CD? I can only speak for myself... It's a hard to describe feeling. The bit of imperfection in the signal adds to the appreciation that it's coming to you from a far away place. You are much more aware of the process that brings you the signal. CD is almost perfect, but may at times be mistaken for elevator music. It's just there. No fuss, no muss but also sterile. The searching aspect adds to the experience. With the radio, you have to seek out content. It's an adventure of sort, as you don't know what you'll find. It may be similar to cooking in a way. A cd is like canned food. When you open a can, you know exactly what the contents are. With short wave, the process is more like finding what's in the pantry and fridge and then determining what you can or can not make of it. Sometimes the results are a pleasant surprise. mike |
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:38:52 GMT, m II
wrote: bug wrote: On 21 Nov 2004 17:57:40 -0800, (Jim) wrote: Even when listening to songs, I prefer to shortwave to CD. Most of my friends think I'm nuts when they hear me listening to Beethoven on BBC on 15.310 MHz instead of tuning on 100 MHz stereo. Any suggestions? No, suggestions, but a curiosity. Why do you prefer listening to songs on shortwave versus CD? I can only speak for myself... It's a hard to describe feeling. The bit of imperfection in the signal adds to the appreciation that it's coming to you from a far away place. You are much more aware of the process that brings you the signal. CD is almost perfect, but may at times be mistaken for elevator music. It's just there. No fuss, no muss but also sterile. The searching aspect adds to the experience. With the radio, you have to seek out content. It's an adventure of sort, as you don't know what you'll find. It may be similar to cooking in a way. A cd is like canned food. When you open a can, you know exactly what the contents are. With short wave, the process is more like finding what's in the pantry and fridge and then determining what you can or can not make of it. Sometimes the results are a pleasant surprise. mike Plus, I find, there's a feeling of connecting with history. When the Queen had her "Queen's concert" in June of '02, I could have watched on the tv, in fact, I looked in to see what they were wearing. But as for the concert, I listened to it on the BBC (at15400) , and found it breathtaking. And yes, there was some fading and noise, but that part of the "experience", one that I will cherish the rest of my life. On Sept. 11, 2001, I listened to shortwave that evening, I listened to "stories of our century" on R. Nederland. with a story on Anne Frank, and the Netherlands. followed by news at 0100 utc, with "the hunt for those responsible for the terrorist attack in the United States" Needless to say, that will stay in my memory as well. And then, there's really cool stuff, like catching St Helena on it's last broadcast. Major Cool. And then, there's the wonder and the excitement of finding stuff you had no idea existed, like number stations. All in all, cds hold a very dim candle to this stuff. |
Dyuob Poltice wrote:
All in all, cds hold a very dim candle to this stuff. Very true. The major advantage of a cd is that it's always there, unchanging. The major disadvantage of a cd is that's it's always there, unchanging. A mixed blessing, for sure, but no problem if I treat CDs as archival media and shortwave as a spontaneous, NOW thing. The only problem being that the CDs will most likely outlive me and then find their way to the landfill by unappreciative know nothing heirs. mike |
m II wrote: Dyuob Poltice wrote: All in all, cds hold a very dim candle to this stuff. Very true. The major advantage of a cd is that it's always there, unchanging. The major disadvantage of a cd is that's it's always there, unchanging. A mixed blessing, for sure, but no problem if I treat CDs as archival media and shortwave as a spontaneous, NOW thing. The only problem being that the CDs will most likely outlive me and then find their way to the landfill by unappreciative know nothing heirs. That's actually pretty darn funny. Why would you think that your heirs would be any different from you? You know nothing, therefore it makes sense that your heirs would know nothing as well. Still LMFAO at the Canadian 'tard boy. dxAce Michigan USA |
dxAce wrote:
Still LMFAO at the Canadian 'tard boy. Just what is your problem? I've told you a dozen times now that anal sex is a perversion, yet you keep boasting about it. Get help, pervert. That and a vocabulary. http://www.epigee.org/guide/stds.html#other mike |
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 12:19:32 -0500, dxAce wrote:
'tard boy. You do realize, don't you, that the use of that phrase in almost everyone of your posts shows just how immature you are? You have a lot to offer this hobby, but why would anyone waste their time with reading your stuff if this is what they run into time after time? for example: http://tinyurl.com/6ok6u |
Dyuob Poltice wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 12:19:32 -0500, dxAce wrote: 'tard boy. You do realize, don't you, that the use of that phrase in almost everyone of your posts shows just how immature you are? Really? Immature? Very funny. dxAce Michigan USA |
Tom Betz wrote: Quoth Dyuob Poltice in : On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 12:19:32 -0500, dxAce wrote: 'tard boy. You do realize, don't you, that the use of that phrase in almost everyone of your posts shows just how immature you are? You have a lot to offer this hobby, but why would anyone waste their time with reading your stuff if this is what they run into time after time? for example: http://tinyurl.com/6ok6u http://shorterlink.com/?AQ8KP5 is even more telling. I've had him killfiled for months for just this reason. He's proven again and again that he's pathologically incapable of engaging in discussion with anyone who disagrees with him without presenting this sort of childish, bullying behavior. It's sad, really. What is really sad Tom is that you have proven yourself to be a 'tard boy yet again. I am and will remain, dxAce Michigan USA Good luck trying to catch up. (No brag, just the facts) |
dxAce wrote:
you have proven yourself to be a 'tard boy yet mike wrote: http://wilstar.net/midi/bugsmaroon.wav mike |
bug wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:20:20 -0600, Dyuob Poltice wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 12:19:32 -0500, dxAce wrote: 'tard boy. You do realize, don't you, that the use of that phrase in almost everyone of your posts shows just how immature you are? You have a lot to offer this hobby, but why would anyone waste their time with reading your stuff if this is what they run into time after time? for example: http://tinyurl.com/6ok6u Yes, I have to say that ad hominem attacks truly serve no purpose. In fact, I'm thisclose to sticking dxAce in my kill-file. Fine with me... I invite you and all others to play catch up. I no longer have to do much of that... except with the other truly big boys of DX'ing. You, I take it, are not among them. dxAce Michigan USA |
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:45:59 -0500, dxAce wrote:
I no longer have to do much of that... except with the other truly big boys of DX'ing. Oh aren't you just the superior dx'er. It must be nice living in such a rarified atmosphere. Want to know why SW listening is dying, it's because of snobs like you. You do nothing to promote the hobby, only yourself. Why don't you go find a big boy newsgroup, and leave us alone? |
dxAce wrote:
I no longer have to do much of that... except with the other truly big boys of DX'ing. http://wilstar.net/midi/bugsmaroon.wav mike |
Dyuob Poltice wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:45:59 -0500, dxAce wrote: I no longer have to do much of that... except with the other truly big boys of DX'ing. Oh aren't you just the superior dx'er. It must be nice living in such a rarified atmosphere. Want to know why SW listening is dying, it's because of snobs like you. You do nothing to promote the hobby, only yourself. Why don't you go find a big boy newsgroup, and leave us alone? Alone? What might you do then? I promote the hobby daily, 'tard boy... please try to pay attention. Now go tote your portable, and try to catch up. dxAce Michigan USA |
Dyuob Poltice wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:45:59 -0500, dxAce wrote: I no longer have to do much of that... except with the other truly big boys of DX'ing. Oh aren't you just the superior dx'er. Yep... done that, been there... Sit back and learn... dxAce Michigan USA http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
dxAce wrote:
Dyuob Poltice wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:45:59 -0500, dxAce wrote: I no longer have to do much of that... except with the other truly big boys of DX'ing. Oh aren't you just the superior dx'er. Yep... done that, been there... http://wilstar.net/midi/bugsmaroon.wav Sit back and learn... What a pompous ass. Steven Hawkings has a smaller ego than you do. get help. mike |
m II wrote: dxAce wrote: Dyuob Poltice wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:45:59 -0500, dxAce wrote: I no longer have to do much of that... except with the other truly big boys of DX'ing. Oh aren't you just the superior dx'er. Yep... done that, been there... http://wilstar.net/midi/bugsmaroon.wav Sit back and learn... What a pompous ass. Steven Hawkings has a smaller ego than you do. get help. LMFAO... I don't really need any help, 'tard boy, I've already done most of the things you wish to accomplish. dxAce Michigan USA |
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Tom Betz wrote: Quoth Dyuob Poltice in : On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 12:19:32 -0500, dxAce wrote: 'tard boy. You do realize, don't you, that the use of that phrase in almost everyone of your posts shows just how immature you are? You have a lot to offer this hobby, but why would anyone waste their time with reading your stuff if this is what they run into time after time? for example: http://tinyurl.com/6ok6u http://shorterlink.com/?AQ8KP5 is even more telling. I've had him killfiled for months for just this reason. He's proven again and again that he's pathologically incapable of engaging in discussion with anyone who disagrees with him without presenting this sort of childish, bullying behavior. It's sad, really. Why don't you post something about short wave? Oh, you can't because you spend all your time talking out your ass. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
dxAce wrote:
What a pompous ass. Steven Hawkings has a smaller ego than you do. get help. LMFAO... I don't really need any help, 'tard boy, I've already done most of the things you wish to accomplish. I wish to get arrogant,old and useless. Looks as though you tell the truth. LMFAO? I see you're still playing with your anus. Pervert. mike |
Jim wrote:
Even when listening to songs, I prefer to shortwave to CD. Most of my friends think I'm nuts when they hear me listening to Beethoven on BBC on 15.310 MHz instead of tuning on 100 MHz stereo. Any suggestions? I know how you feel. I tried to get some of my friends into shortwave, but they just do not understand it. I guess it's because a shortwave radio listener needs to work the radio. It takes a lot of patients to sit there for hours. As for myself I find it very exciting to be able to pick DX stations from 1000's miles away. Also, I like the idea that shortwave radio is a world radio. It belongs to all nations and all people and no one own it. It's kind'na like the internet in that way. If I hear a broadcast in a language that I do not understand, I try to figure out which language it is, from which country it could be coming from, and figure out what type of broadcast it is by listening to the any familiar words. If I hear a religious word then it is probably a religious program (even if it is an another language, If I hear a word from our current news, then it is probably a news program. But their are also programs on culture, music and theater. It is a great hobby in however way you enjoy it. 73 |
Yep.. Try explaining to an Ipod / XM Junky how cool it is to hear music from 10,000 miles away thats richocheted off the Atmosphere / Ocean a few rimes: - or hear BBC broadcasting from Multiple locations, clear as a bell, but with a slight delay, or hearing Bombers landing on Diego garcia, or Music from India & Turkey, or listeing to a ten watt volmet trainsmitter on 3.845 ( USB ) describing Wind speed, temp or going to sleep, listening to 11.175 ( USB) Jim wrote: Even when listening to songs, I prefer to shortwave to CD. Most of my friends think I'm nuts when they hear me listening to Beethoven on BBC on 15.310 MHz instead of tuning on 100 MHz stereo. Any suggestions? I know how you feel. I tried to get some of my friends into shortwave, but they just do not understand it. I guess it's because a shortwave radio listener needs to work the radio. It takes a lot of patients to sit there for hours. As for myself I find it very exciting to be able to pick DX stations from 1000's miles away. Also, I like the idea that shortwave radio is a world radio. It belongs to all nations and all people and no one own it. It's kind'na like the internet in that way. If I hear a broadcast in a language that I do not understand, I try to figure out which language it is, from which country it could be coming from, and figure out what type of broadcast it is by listening to the any familiar words. If I hear a religious word then it is probably a religious program (even if it is an another language, If I hear a word from our current news, then it is probably a news program. But their are also programs on culture, music and theater. It is a great hobby in however way you enjoy it. 73 |
Jim wrote: Even when listening to songs, I prefer to shortwave to CD. Most of my friends think I'm nuts when they hear me listening to Beethoven on BBC on 15.310 MHz instead of tuning on 100 MHz stereo. Any suggestions? Are you telling me you have a shortwave problem? Well, I'm telling you that it's NOT a shortwave problem, but a shortwave SOLUTION. You're lucky to have found a hobby you love. Pay no attention to what your friends think! The day might come when you get a little tired of listening to shortwave. What should you do in that case? Just move on to some commercially viable medium like satellite radio or your neighborhood FM or MW station for a little while. After about five minutes of THIS, shortwave will start to seem utterly FASCINATING again!! Steve |
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