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Greg November 27th 04 01:39 PM

Lincolnshire Poacher
 
If you've never heard LP before, this may be a good time to try. I've been
listening to LP since 1310 UTC and it is coming in stronger than I've ever
heard before, equally well on 14487, 15682, and 16084 USB. I had the same
reception yesterday at the same time.

Greg

W. Central Fla.
NRD-525


dxAce November 27th 04 01:59 PM



Greg wrote:

If you've never heard LP before, this may be a good time to try. I've been
listening to LP since 1310 UTC and it is coming in stronger than I've ever
heard before, equally well on 14487, 15682, and 16084 USB. I had the same
reception yesterday at the same time.


Yes, they were coming in well yesterday. A friend was visiting here and asked me
if I'd ever heard numbers stations before, I said yes! and dialed it up. It was
his first experience hearing a numbers station.

Armed now withe the sked, he headed back to Ohio, and hopefully he'll hear them
there on his Sat-800.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Greg November 27th 04 02:30 PM



From: dxAce
Organization: NASWA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 08:59:58 -0500
Subject: Lincolnshire Poacher



Greg wrote:

If you've never heard LP before, this may be a good time to try. I've been
listening to LP since 1310 UTC and it is coming in stronger than I've ever
heard before, equally well on 14487, 15682, and 16084 USB. I had the same
reception yesterday at the same time.


Yes, they were coming in well yesterday. A friend was visiting here and asked
me
if I'd ever heard numbers stations before, I said yes! and dialed it up. It
was
his first experience hearing a numbers station.

Armed now withe the sked, he headed back to Ohio, and hopefully he'll hear
them
there on his Sat-800.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

I tuned LP out before signoff at 1345. When I went back at 1400, LP was
barely readable on 14487 and not readable at all on 10426 0r 11545 (I'm
following Simon Mason's schedule) or any other freq. I wonder, do they
maybe change direction of the broadcast signal? More likely, prop
conditions crapped out.

Greg


dxAce November 27th 04 02:38 PM



Greg wrote:

From: dxAce
Organization: NASWA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 08:59:58 -0500
Subject: Lincolnshire Poacher



Greg wrote:

If you've never heard LP before, this may be a good time to try. I've been
listening to LP since 1310 UTC and it is coming in stronger than I've ever
heard before, equally well on 14487, 15682, and 16084 USB. I had the same
reception yesterday at the same time.


Yes, they were coming in well yesterday. A friend was visiting here and asked
me
if I'd ever heard numbers stations before, I said yes! and dialed it up. It
was
his first experience hearing a numbers station.

Armed now withe the sked, he headed back to Ohio, and hopefully he'll hear
them
there on his Sat-800.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

I tuned LP out before signoff at 1345. When I went back at 1400, LP was
barely readable on 14487 and not readable at all on 10426 0r 11545 (I'm
following Simon Mason's schedule) or any other freq. I wonder, do they
maybe change direction of the broadcast signal? More likely, prop
conditions crapped out.


I still have them here on 14487, 11545 and 10426 at 1426.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


dxAce November 27th 04 03:32 PM



dxAce wrote:

Greg wrote:

From: dxAce
Organization: NASWA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 08:59:58 -0500
Subject: Lincolnshire Poacher



Greg wrote:

If you've never heard LP before, this may be a good time to try. I've been
listening to LP since 1310 UTC and it is coming in stronger than I've ever
heard before, equally well on 14487, 15682, and 16084 USB. I had the same
reception yesterday at the same time.

Yes, they were coming in well yesterday. A friend was visiting here and asked
me
if I'd ever heard numbers stations before, I said yes! and dialed it up. It
was
his first experience hearing a numbers station.

Armed now withe the sked, he headed back to Ohio, and hopefully he'll hear
them
there on his Sat-800.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

I tuned LP out before signoff at 1345. When I went back at 1400, LP was
barely readable on 14487 and not readable at all on 10426 0r 11545 (I'm
following Simon Mason's schedule) or any other freq. I wonder, do they
maybe change direction of the broadcast signal? More likely, prop
conditions crapped out.


I still have them here on 14487, 11545 and 10426 at 1426.


Also heard here at 1500 on 13375, 12603 and 11545.



dxAce
Michigan
USA



Greg November 27th 04 04:19 PM



From: dxAce
Organization: NASWA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 09:38:08 -0500
Subject: Lincolnshire Poacher



Greg wrote:

From: dxAce
Organization: NASWA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 08:59:58 -0500
Subject: Lincolnshire Poacher



Greg wrote:

If you've never heard LP before, this may be a good time to try. I've been
listening to LP since 1310 UTC and it is coming in stronger than I've ever
heard before, equally well on 14487, 15682, and 16084 USB. I had the same
reception yesterday at the same time.

Yes, they were coming in well yesterday. A friend was visiting here and
asked
me
if I'd ever heard numbers stations before, I said yes! and dialed it up. It
was
his first experience hearing a numbers station.

Armed now withe the sked, he headed back to Ohio, and hopefully he'll hear
them
there on his Sat-800.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

I tuned LP out before signoff at 1345. When I went back at 1400, LP was
barely readable on 14487 and not readable at all on 10426 0r 11545 (I'm
following Simon Mason's schedule) or any other freq. I wonder, do they
maybe change direction of the broadcast signal? More likely, prop
conditions crapped out.


I still have them here on 14487, 11545 and 10426 at 1426.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Reception of LP for me seems to peak around 1300UT and falls off drastically
afterward.

I've got to get some more wire up one of these days!

Regards.

Greg


dxAce November 27th 04 05:44 PM



Greg wrote:

From: dxAce
Organization: NASWA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 09:38:08 -0500
Subject: Lincolnshire Poacher



Greg wrote:

From: dxAce
Organization: NASWA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 08:59:58 -0500
Subject: Lincolnshire Poacher



Greg wrote:

If you've never heard LP before, this may be a good time to try. I've been
listening to LP since 1310 UTC and it is coming in stronger than I've ever
heard before, equally well on 14487, 15682, and 16084 USB. I had the same
reception yesterday at the same time.

Yes, they were coming in well yesterday. A friend was visiting here and
asked
me
if I'd ever heard numbers stations before, I said yes! and dialed it up. It
was
his first experience hearing a numbers station.

Armed now withe the sked, he headed back to Ohio, and hopefully he'll hear
them
there on his Sat-800.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

I tuned LP out before signoff at 1345. When I went back at 1400, LP was
barely readable on 14487 and not readable at all on 10426 0r 11545 (I'm
following Simon Mason's schedule) or any other freq. I wonder, do they
maybe change direction of the broadcast signal? More likely, prop
conditions crapped out.


I still have them here on 14487, 11545 and 10426 at 1426.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Reception of LP for me seems to peak around 1300UT and falls off drastically
afterward.

I've got to get some more wire up one of these days!


I typically hear them best on my 70' N-S wire. On most days I can follow the
schedule right up to 2200.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Alan November 28th 04 12:47 PM


"Greg" wrote in message
...
If you've never heard LP before, this may be a good time to try. I've

been
listening to LP since 1310 UTC and it is coming in stronger than I've ever
heard before, equally well on 14487, 15682, and 16084 USB. I had the same
reception yesterday at the same time.

Greg

W. Central Fla.
NRD-525


Hello folks,

Only just found your group. Spotted this thread on the Lincolnshire
Poacher.

The thread caught my eye because I live in Lincolnshire and I would like to
know if someone would kindly tell me what this TX is about. Whats the
numbers for ?

Rxing 55 on all 3 freqs shown above.

Many thanks.

Alan



dxAce November 28th 04 12:55 PM



Alan wrote:

"Greg" wrote in message
...
If you've never heard LP before, this may be a good time to try. I've

been
listening to LP since 1310 UTC and it is coming in stronger than I've ever
heard before, equally well on 14487, 15682, and 16084 USB. I had the same
reception yesterday at the same time.

Greg

W. Central Fla.
NRD-525


Hello folks,

Only just found your group. Spotted this thread on the Lincolnshire
Poacher.

The thread caught my eye because I live in Lincolnshire and I would like to
know if someone would kindly tell me what this TX is about. Whats the
numbers for ?


This may give you some background on the Poacher:

http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/page14.html

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce November 28th 04 01:07 PM



Alan wrote:

"Greg" wrote in message
...
If you've never heard LP before, this may be a good time to try. I've

been
listening to LP since 1310 UTC and it is coming in stronger than I've ever
heard before, equally well on 14487, 15682, and 16084 USB. I had the same
reception yesterday at the same time.

Greg

W. Central Fla.
NRD-525


Hello folks,

Only just found your group. Spotted this thread on the Lincolnshire
Poacher.

The thread caught my eye because I live in Lincolnshire and I would like to
know if someone would kindly tell me what this TX is about. Whats the
numbers for ?

Rxing 55 on all 3 freqs shown above.


Heard here this morning at 1300 on 16084, 15682 and 14487. Message header 25812.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Alan November 28th 04 01:42 PM

?

This may give you some background on the Poacher:

http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/page14.html

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Thanks for that, Very interesting.



Greg November 28th 04 06:27 PM



From: dxAce
Organization: NASWA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 08:07:36 -0500
Subject: Lincolnshire Poacher



Alan wrote:

"Greg" wrote in message
...
If you've never heard LP before, this may be a good time to try. I've

been
listening to LP since 1310 UTC and it is coming in stronger than I've ever
heard before, equally well on 14487, 15682, and 16084 USB. I had the same
reception yesterday at the same time.

Greg

W. Central Fla.
NRD-525


Hello folks,

Only just found your group. Spotted this thread on the Lincolnshire
Poacher.

The thread caught my eye because I live in Lincolnshire and I would like to
know if someone would kindly tell me what this TX is about. Whats the
numbers for ?

Rxing 55 on all 3 freqs shown above.


Heard here this morning at 1300 on 16084, 15682 and 14487. Message header
25812.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

I copied the 25812 header on the 1300UT transmission loud and clear on those
3 freq's. The transmission at 1400 was faint. By 1500 I couldn't hear it
at all. That is typical at my location. As I said before, my NRD-525 could
use a lot more antenna...

Greg


dxAce November 28th 04 06:43 PM



Greg wrote:

From: dxAce
Organization: NASWA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 08:07:36 -0500
Subject: Lincolnshire Poacher



Alan wrote:

"Greg" wrote in message
...
If you've never heard LP before, this may be a good time to try. I've
been
listening to LP since 1310 UTC and it is coming in stronger than I've ever
heard before, equally well on 14487, 15682, and 16084 USB. I had the same
reception yesterday at the same time.

Greg

W. Central Fla.
NRD-525


Hello folks,

Only just found your group. Spotted this thread on the Lincolnshire
Poacher.

The thread caught my eye because I live in Lincolnshire and I would like to
know if someone would kindly tell me what this TX is about. Whats the
numbers for ?

Rxing 55 on all 3 freqs shown above.


Heard here this morning at 1300 on 16084, 15682 and 14487. Message header
25812.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

I copied the 25812 header on the 1300UT transmission loud and clear on those
3 freq's. The transmission at 1400 was faint. By 1500 I couldn't hear it
at all. That is typical at my location. As I said before, my NRD-525 could
use a lot more antenna...


What are you using currently?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Greg November 28th 04 11:36 PM



From: dxAce
Organization: NASWA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 13:43:29 -0500
Subject: Lincolnshire Poacher



Greg wrote:

From: dxAce
Organization: NASWA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 08:07:36 -0500
Subject: Lincolnshire Poacher



Alan wrote:

"Greg" wrote in message
...
If you've never heard LP before, this may be a good time to try. I've
been
listening to LP since 1310 UTC and it is coming in stronger than I've ever
heard before, equally well on 14487, 15682, and 16084 USB. I had the same
reception yesterday at the same time.

Greg

W. Central Fla.
NRD-525


Hello folks,

Only just found your group. Spotted this thread on the Lincolnshire
Poacher.

The thread caught my eye because I live in Lincolnshire and I would like to
know if someone would kindly tell me what this TX is about. Whats the
numbers for ?

Rxing 55 on all 3 freqs shown above.

Heard here this morning at 1300 on 16084, 15682 and 14487. Message header
25812.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

I copied the 25812 header on the 1300UT transmission loud and clear on those
3 freq's. The transmission at 1400 was faint. By 1500 I couldn't hear it
at all. That is typical at my location. As I said before, my NRD-525 could
use a lot more antenna...


What are you using currently?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

I just have about 50' of wire strung around the eaves of the house (on 2
sides) and coming in through the window. Not very sophisticated. But it's
kinda surprising how much I can pick up on my NRD-525 with that modest
antenna. I hope to put up a proper antenna soon. Probably a random wire
w/coax lead-in, as close to the Doty design as I can make it. I thought
about experimenting with a vertical too, since that would be an easier
construct in my tree-laden yard. But I've read a lot of comments about
verticals being noisy.

Greg


Michael Lawson November 29th 04 02:58 AM


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Greg wrote:

From: dxAce
Organization: NASWA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 09:38:08 -0500
Subject: Lincolnshire Poacher



Greg wrote:

From: dxAce
Organization: NASWA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 08:59:58 -0500
Subject: Lincolnshire Poacher



Greg wrote:

If you've never heard LP before, this may be a good time to

try. I've been
listening to LP since 1310 UTC and it is coming in stronger

than I've ever
heard before, equally well on 14487, 15682, and 16084 USB. I

had the same
reception yesterday at the same time.

Yes, they were coming in well yesterday. A friend was visiting

here and
asked
me
if I'd ever heard numbers stations before, I said yes! and

dialed it up. It
was
his first experience hearing a numbers station.

Armed now withe the sked, he headed back to Ohio, and

hopefully he'll hear
them
there on his Sat-800.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

I tuned LP out before signoff at 1345. When I went back at

1400, LP was
barely readable on 14487 and not readable at all on 10426 0r

11545 (I'm
following Simon Mason's schedule) or any other freq. I wonder,

do they
maybe change direction of the broadcast signal? More likely,

prop
conditions crapped out.

I still have them here on 14487, 11545 and 10426 at 1426.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Reception of LP for me seems to peak around 1300UT and falls off

drastically
afterward.

I've got to get some more wire up one of these days!


I typically hear them best on my 70' N-S wire. On most days I can

follow the
schedule right up to 2200.


Ace, what antennas do you use?? Is the n8kdv site
yours?? I was curious about that setup, since it
looks like a couple of random wires held up by 4x4
posts.

--Mike L.




dxAce November 29th 04 11:41 AM



Michael Lawson wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Greg wrote:

From: dxAce
Organization: NASWA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 09:38:08 -0500
Subject: Lincolnshire Poacher



Greg wrote:

From: dxAce
Organization: NASWA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 08:59:58 -0500
Subject: Lincolnshire Poacher



Greg wrote:

If you've never heard LP before, this may be a good time to

try. I've been
listening to LP since 1310 UTC and it is coming in stronger

than I've ever
heard before, equally well on 14487, 15682, and 16084 USB. I

had the same
reception yesterday at the same time.

Yes, they were coming in well yesterday. A friend was visiting

here and
asked
me
if I'd ever heard numbers stations before, I said yes! and

dialed it up. It
was
his first experience hearing a numbers station.

Armed now withe the sked, he headed back to Ohio, and

hopefully he'll hear
them
there on his Sat-800.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

I tuned LP out before signoff at 1345. When I went back at

1400, LP was
barely readable on 14487 and not readable at all on 10426 0r

11545 (I'm
following Simon Mason's schedule) or any other freq. I wonder,

do they
maybe change direction of the broadcast signal? More likely,

prop
conditions crapped out.

I still have them here on 14487, 11545 and 10426 at 1426.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Reception of LP for me seems to peak around 1300UT and falls off

drastically
afterward.

I've got to get some more wire up one of these days!


I typically hear them best on my 70' N-S wire. On most days I can

follow the
schedule right up to 2200.


Ace, what antennas do you use?? Is the n8kdv site
yours?? I was curious about that setup, since it
looks like a couple of random wires held up by 4x4
posts.


Yes, that is my site. One 70' N-S wire, and one 200' W-E wire, mounted 9' above
the ground. Both fed into matching transformers.

Works pretty well. Maybe next year I'll get around to putting up an inverted vee
or two.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Michael Lawson November 29th 04 02:37 PM

For those two antennas, do you have them strung
directly point to point, or do you have an intermediate
support along the way, like say with a PVC pipe,
to help keep the antenna from sagging?

--Mike L.


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael Lawson wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Greg wrote:

From: dxAce
Organization: NASWA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 09:38:08 -0500
Subject: Lincolnshire Poacher



Greg wrote:

From: dxAce
Organization: NASWA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 08:59:58 -0500
Subject: Lincolnshire Poacher



Greg wrote:

If you've never heard LP before, this may be a good time

to
try. I've been
listening to LP since 1310 UTC and it is coming in

stronger
than I've ever
heard before, equally well on 14487, 15682, and 16084

USB. I
had the same
reception yesterday at the same time.

Yes, they were coming in well yesterday. A friend was

visiting
here and
asked
me
if I'd ever heard numbers stations before, I said yes! and

dialed it up. It
was
his first experience hearing a numbers station.

Armed now withe the sked, he headed back to Ohio, and

hopefully he'll hear
them
there on his Sat-800.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

I tuned LP out before signoff at 1345. When I went back at

1400, LP was
barely readable on 14487 and not readable at all on 10426

0r
11545 (I'm
following Simon Mason's schedule) or any other freq. I

wonder,
do they
maybe change direction of the broadcast signal? More

likely,
prop
conditions crapped out.

I still have them here on 14487, 11545 and 10426 at 1426.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Reception of LP for me seems to peak around 1300UT and falls

off
drastically
afterward.

I've got to get some more wire up one of these days!

I typically hear them best on my 70' N-S wire. On most days I

can
follow the
schedule right up to 2200.


Ace, what antennas do you use?? Is the n8kdv site
yours?? I was curious about that setup, since it
looks like a couple of random wires held up by 4x4
posts.


Yes, that is my site. One 70' N-S wire, and one 200' W-E wire,

mounted 9' above
the ground. Both fed into matching transformers.

Works pretty well. Maybe next year I'll get around to putting up an

inverted vee
or two.

dxAce
Michigan
USA






dxAce November 29th 04 02:40 PM



Michael Lawson wrote:

For those two antennas, do you have them strung
directly point to point, or do you have an intermediate
support along the way, like say with a PVC pipe,
to help keep the antenna from sagging?


Intermediate supports. For the 70' I have a support at 35', for the 200'
supports are every 50'.

You can see the supports he

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/pics.htm

That picture is taken from the end of the 100' antenna, which has since been
extended to 200'

Photo taken ca. Nov. 2001.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Michael Lawson November 29th 04 02:55 PM

Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use the
top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I was
curious about your setup. Do you have a buried
coax leading to your shack??

--Mike L.


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael Lawson wrote:

For those two antennas, do you have them strung
directly point to point, or do you have an intermediate
support along the way, like say with a PVC pipe,
to help keep the antenna from sagging?


Intermediate supports. For the 70' I have a support at 35', for the

200'
supports are every 50'.

You can see the supports he

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/pics.htm

That picture is taken from the end of the 100' antenna, which has

since been
extended to 200'

Photo taken ca. Nov. 2001.

dxAce
Michigan
USA






dxAce November 29th 04 04:29 PM



Michael Lawson wrote:

Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use the
top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I was
curious about your setup. Do you have a buried
coax leading to your shack??


Yes, both runs of coax are buried, leading into Transi-trap lightning
protectors, then up to a two way anrenna switch, then to the Stridsburg
multi-coupler, then to the receivers.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce November 30th 04 10:24 AM



-=jd=- wrote:

On Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:29:49a, dxAce
wrote in message :



Michael Lawson wrote:

Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use the
top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I was
curious about your setup. Do you have a buried
coax leading to your shack??


Yes, both runs of coax are buried, leading into Transi-trap
lightning protectors, then up to a two way anrenna switch,
then to the Stridsburg multi-coupler, then to the
receivers.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




When you disconnect the coax (say, when a thunder storm is
moving in), do you just disconnect from the switch or do you
disconnect outside?

The reason I ask is that when I had the 300' of wire, it
seemed to be a fairly decent static-charge collector. The neon
in the static-bleeder would get a pretty decent workout from
time to time. It got to the point I kept the coax disconnected
outside as the norm - connecting it only when I wanted to
listen.

I can imagine with both of your wires, your transi-traps are
worth several times their weight in gold...


I just disconnect from the switch. Never had any problems as the antennas
themselves are directly grounded at the feedpoint through the transformers.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Michael Lawson November 30th 04 01:01 PM


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


-=jd=- wrote:

On Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:29:49a, dxAce
wrote in message :



Michael Lawson wrote:

Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use the
top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I was
curious about your setup. Do you have a buried
coax leading to your shack??

Yes, both runs of coax are buried, leading into Transi-trap
lightning protectors, then up to a two way anrenna switch,
then to the Stridsburg multi-coupler, then to the
receivers.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




When you disconnect the coax (say, when a thunder storm is
moving in), do you just disconnect from the switch or do you
disconnect outside?

The reason I ask is that when I had the 300' of wire, it
seemed to be a fairly decent static-charge collector. The neon
in the static-bleeder would get a pretty decent workout from
time to time. It got to the point I kept the coax disconnected
outside as the norm - connecting it only when I wanted to
listen.

I can imagine with both of your wires, your transi-traps are
worth several times their weight in gold...


I just disconnect from the switch. Never had any problems as the

antennas
themselves are directly grounded at the feedpoint through the

transformers.

You're using your 10:1 transformer for the grounding?

--Mike L.




dxAce November 30th 04 01:03 PM



Michael Lawson wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


-=jd=- wrote:

On Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:29:49a, dxAce
wrote in message :



Michael Lawson wrote:

Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use the
top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I was
curious about your setup. Do you have a buried
coax leading to your shack??

Yes, both runs of coax are buried, leading into Transi-trap
lightning protectors, then up to a two way anrenna switch,
then to the Stridsburg multi-coupler, then to the
receivers.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




When you disconnect the coax (say, when a thunder storm is
moving in), do you just disconnect from the switch or do you
disconnect outside?

The reason I ask is that when I had the 300' of wire, it
seemed to be a fairly decent static-charge collector. The neon
in the static-bleeder would get a pretty decent workout from
time to time. It got to the point I kept the coax disconnected
outside as the norm - connecting it only when I wanted to
listen.

I can imagine with both of your wires, your transi-traps are
worth several times their weight in gold...


I just disconnect from the switch. Never had any problems as the

antennas
themselves are directly grounded at the feedpoint through the

transformers.

You're using your 10:1 transformer for the grounding?


Well, yes. There is no direct connection between the antenna and coaxial cable.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



HankG November 30th 04 02:20 PM


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael Lawson wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


-=jd=- wrote:

On Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:29:49a, dxAce
wrote in message :



Michael Lawson wrote:

Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use the
top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I was
curious about your setup. Do you have a buried
coax leading to your shack??

Yes, both runs of coax are buried, leading into Transi-trap
lightning protectors, then up to a two way anrenna switch,
then to the Stridsburg multi-coupler, then to the
receivers.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




When you disconnect the coax (say, when a thunder storm is
moving in), do you just disconnect from the switch or do you
disconnect outside?

The reason I ask is that when I had the 300' of wire, it
seemed to be a fairly decent static-charge collector. The neon
in the static-bleeder would get a pretty decent workout from
time to time. It got to the point I kept the coax disconnected
outside as the norm - connecting it only when I wanted to
listen.

I can imagine with both of your wires, your transi-traps are
worth several times their weight in gold...

I just disconnect from the switch. Never had any problems as the

antennas
themselves are directly grounded at the feedpoint through the

transformers.

You're using your 10:1 transformer for the grounding?


Well, yes. There is no direct connection between the antenna and coaxial

cable.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Ace:

Are you using a tuner on that 200 footer? I'm using an untuned, uncoupled,
directly connected 200 ft piece of wire which I'm thinking of upgrading. I
currently use it mostly for LW and MW up to about 2Mhz. What frequency
range do you use it for mostly?

Other than orientation (your pic suggests 2 ants at right angles) is there
any advantage using two longwires of different lengths?

BTW, how tall are your supports?

HankG



dxAce November 30th 04 02:42 PM



HankG wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael Lawson wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


-=jd=- wrote:

On Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:29:49a, dxAce
wrote in message :



Michael Lawson wrote:

Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use the
top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I was
curious about your setup. Do you have a buried
coax leading to your shack??

Yes, both runs of coax are buried, leading into Transi-trap
lightning protectors, then up to a two way anrenna switch,
then to the Stridsburg multi-coupler, then to the
receivers.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




When you disconnect the coax (say, when a thunder storm is
moving in), do you just disconnect from the switch or do you
disconnect outside?

The reason I ask is that when I had the 300' of wire, it
seemed to be a fairly decent static-charge collector. The neon
in the static-bleeder would get a pretty decent workout from
time to time. It got to the point I kept the coax disconnected
outside as the norm - connecting it only when I wanted to
listen.

I can imagine with both of your wires, your transi-traps are
worth several times their weight in gold...

I just disconnect from the switch. Never had any problems as the
antennas
themselves are directly grounded at the feedpoint through the
transformers.

You're using your 10:1 transformer for the grounding?


Well, yes. There is no direct connection between the antenna and coaxial

cable.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Ace:

Are you using a tuner on that 200 footer?


No, no tuner. On that or the 70'.

I'm using an untuned, uncoupled,
directly connected 200 ft piece of wire which I'm thinking of upgrading. I
currently use it mostly for LW and MW up to about 2Mhz. What frequency
range do you use it for mostly?


I use them both for everything, however my system( including the Stridsberg
multicoupler, which was modified by Stridsberg for me), and the transformers
themselves are optimized for SW. I can bypass the Stridsberg and go direct to
the receiver(s), but still the transformers are wound for SW.

Other than orientation (your pic suggests 2 ants at right angles) is there
any advantage using two longwires of different lengths?


Yes, many times I can get better reception by switching between the two as
signals arrive from different directions. Additionally, the 200' wire works well
on many SW frequencies arriving from a W or E direction.

BTW, how tall are your supports?


9'. They are, as I recall 4x4x12 treated wood, sunk 3' into the ground.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Michael Lawson November 30th 04 03:02 PM


"dxAce" wrote in message
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HankG wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Michael Lawson wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


-=jd=- wrote:

On Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:29:49a, dxAce
wrote in message :



Michael Lawson wrote:

Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use the
top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I was
curious about your setup. Do you have a buried
coax leading to your shack??

Yes, both runs of coax are buried, leading into

Transi-trap
lightning protectors, then up to a two way anrenna

switch,
then to the Stridsburg multi-coupler, then to the
receivers.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




When you disconnect the coax (say, when a thunder storm is
moving in), do you just disconnect from the switch or do

you
disconnect outside?

The reason I ask is that when I had the 300' of wire, it
seemed to be a fairly decent static-charge collector. The

neon
in the static-bleeder would get a pretty decent workout

from
time to time. It got to the point I kept the coax

disconnected
outside as the norm - connecting it only when I wanted to
listen.

I can imagine with both of your wires, your transi-traps

are
worth several times their weight in gold...

I just disconnect from the switch. Never had any problems as

the
antennas
themselves are directly grounded at the feedpoint through

the
transformers.

You're using your 10:1 transformer for the grounding?

Well, yes. There is no direct connection between the antenna and

coaxial
cable.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Ace:

Are you using a tuner on that 200 footer?


No, no tuner. On that or the 70'.

I'm using an untuned, uncoupled,
directly connected 200 ft piece of wire which I'm thinking of

upgrading. I
currently use it mostly for LW and MW up to about 2Mhz. What

frequency
range do you use it for mostly?


I use them both for everything, however my system( including the

Stridsberg
multicoupler, which was modified by Stridsberg for me), and the

transformers
themselves are optimized for SW. I can bypass the Stridsberg and go

direct to
the receiver(s), but still the transformers are wound for SW.

Other than orientation (your pic suggests 2 ants at right angles)

is there
any advantage using two longwires of different lengths?


Yes, many times I can get better reception by switching between the

two as
signals arrive from different directions. Additionally, the 200'

wire works well
on many SW frequencies arriving from a W or E direction.

BTW, how tall are your supports?


9'. They are, as I recall 4x4x12 treated wood, sunk 3' into the

ground.

I would second the need for a matching transformer,
it really does made a huge difference. I'd recommend
reading the articles by John Bryant at
http://www.dxing.info/equipment/ for more info.

Ace, do you still sell yours? Just curious.

--Mike L.




dxAce November 30th 04 03:08 PM



Michael Lawson wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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HankG wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael Lawson wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


-=jd=- wrote:

On Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:29:49a, dxAce
wrote in message :



Michael Lawson wrote:

Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use the
top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I was
curious about your setup. Do you have a buried
coax leading to your shack??

Yes, both runs of coax are buried, leading into

Transi-trap
lightning protectors, then up to a two way anrenna

switch,
then to the Stridsburg multi-coupler, then to the
receivers.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




When you disconnect the coax (say, when a thunder storm is
moving in), do you just disconnect from the switch or do

you
disconnect outside?

The reason I ask is that when I had the 300' of wire, it
seemed to be a fairly decent static-charge collector. The

neon
in the static-bleeder would get a pretty decent workout

from
time to time. It got to the point I kept the coax

disconnected
outside as the norm - connecting it only when I wanted to
listen.

I can imagine with both of your wires, your transi-traps

are
worth several times their weight in gold...

I just disconnect from the switch. Never had any problems as

the
antennas
themselves are directly grounded at the feedpoint through

the
transformers.

You're using your 10:1 transformer for the grounding?

Well, yes. There is no direct connection between the antenna and

coaxial
cable.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Ace:

Are you using a tuner on that 200 footer?


No, no tuner. On that or the 70'.

I'm using an untuned, uncoupled,
directly connected 200 ft piece of wire which I'm thinking of

upgrading. I
currently use it mostly for LW and MW up to about 2Mhz. What

frequency
range do you use it for mostly?


I use them both for everything, however my system( including the

Stridsberg
multicoupler, which was modified by Stridsberg for me), and the

transformers
themselves are optimized for SW. I can bypass the Stridsberg and go

direct to
the receiver(s), but still the transformers are wound for SW.

Other than orientation (your pic suggests 2 ants at right angles)

is there
any advantage using two longwires of different lengths?


Yes, many times I can get better reception by switching between the

two as
signals arrive from different directions. Additionally, the 200'

wire works well
on many SW frequencies arriving from a W or E direction.

BTW, how tall are your supports?


9'. They are, as I recall 4x4x12 treated wood, sunk 3' into the

ground.

I would second the need for a matching transformer,
it really does made a huge difference. I'd recommend
reading the articles by John Bryant at
http://www.dxing.info/equipment/ for more info.

Ace, do you still sell yours? Just curious.


No, I unfortunately no longer make them for sale. There is however someone who
apparently sells something similar on eBay. Quite honestly I don't think I could
compete with the price. If I did start making them up again I suppose it might
be a similar price, but I'd have to explore another case style.

I think I sold about 2-300 of them. It's tedious winding the darn things and I
just gave it up.

Here are some direct links to the Bryant articles:

http://www.dxing.info/equipment/impe...ing_bryant.pdf

http://members.aol.com/DXerCapeCod/z_transformers.pdf

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce November 30th 04 03:29 PM



Michael Lawson wrote:

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HankG wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael Lawson wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


-=jd=- wrote:

On Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:29:49a, dxAce
wrote in message :



Michael Lawson wrote:

Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use the
top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I was
curious about your setup. Do you have a buried
coax leading to your shack??

Yes, both runs of coax are buried, leading into

Transi-trap
lightning protectors, then up to a two way anrenna

switch,
then to the Stridsburg multi-coupler, then to the
receivers.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




When you disconnect the coax (say, when a thunder storm is
moving in), do you just disconnect from the switch or do

you
disconnect outside?

The reason I ask is that when I had the 300' of wire, it
seemed to be a fairly decent static-charge collector. The

neon
in the static-bleeder would get a pretty decent workout

from
time to time. It got to the point I kept the coax

disconnected
outside as the norm - connecting it only when I wanted to
listen.

I can imagine with both of your wires, your transi-traps

are
worth several times their weight in gold...

I just disconnect from the switch. Never had any problems as

the
antennas
themselves are directly grounded at the feedpoint through

the
transformers.

You're using your 10:1 transformer for the grounding?

Well, yes. There is no direct connection between the antenna and

coaxial
cable.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Ace:

Are you using a tuner on that 200 footer?


No, no tuner. On that or the 70'.

I'm using an untuned, uncoupled,
directly connected 200 ft piece of wire which I'm thinking of

upgrading. I
currently use it mostly for LW and MW up to about 2Mhz. What

frequency
range do you use it for mostly?


I use them both for everything, however my system( including the

Stridsberg
multicoupler, which was modified by Stridsberg for me), and the

transformers
themselves are optimized for SW. I can bypass the Stridsberg and go

direct to
the receiver(s), but still the transformers are wound for SW.

Other than orientation (your pic suggests 2 ants at right angles)

is there
any advantage using two longwires of different lengths?


Yes, many times I can get better reception by switching between the

two as
signals arrive from different directions. Additionally, the 200'

wire works well
on many SW frequencies arriving from a W or E direction.

BTW, how tall are your supports?


9'. They are, as I recall 4x4x12 treated wood, sunk 3' into the

ground.

I would second the need for a matching transformer,
it really does made a huge difference. I'd recommend
reading the articles by John Bryant at
http://www.dxing.info/equipment/ for more info.


Thanks for pointing out the dx'ing.info site again, I don't go there very often
and I see that there is a more recent article there entitled "A Second Look at
Fabricating Impedance Transformers for Receiving Antennas" An interesting read
as I still use the FT-50-43 toroids and they seem to recommend either the FT-82
or FT-114 in a type 75 mix.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




Michael Lawson November 30th 04 03:39 PM


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael Lawson wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


HankG wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael Lawson wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


-=jd=- wrote:

On Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:29:49a, dxAce


wrote in message :



Michael Lawson wrote:

Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use

the
top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I

was
curious about your setup. Do you have a buried
coax leading to your shack??

Yes, both runs of coax are buried, leading into

Transi-trap
lightning protectors, then up to a two way anrenna

switch,
then to the Stridsburg multi-coupler, then to the
receivers.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




When you disconnect the coax (say, when a thunder

storm is
moving in), do you just disconnect from the switch or

do
you
disconnect outside?

The reason I ask is that when I had the 300' of wire,

it
seemed to be a fairly decent static-charge collector.

The
neon
in the static-bleeder would get a pretty decent

workout
from
time to time. It got to the point I kept the coax

disconnected
outside as the norm - connecting it only when I wanted

to
listen.

I can imagine with both of your wires, your

transi-traps
are
worth several times their weight in gold...

I just disconnect from the switch. Never had any

problems as
the
antennas
themselves are directly grounded at the feedpoint

through
the
transformers.

You're using your 10:1 transformer for the grounding?

Well, yes. There is no direct connection between the antenna

and
coaxial
cable.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Ace:

Are you using a tuner on that 200 footer?

No, no tuner. On that or the 70'.

I'm using an untuned, uncoupled,
directly connected 200 ft piece of wire which I'm thinking of

upgrading. I
currently use it mostly for LW and MW up to about 2Mhz. What

frequency
range do you use it for mostly?

I use them both for everything, however my system( including the

Stridsberg
multicoupler, which was modified by Stridsberg for me), and the

transformers
themselves are optimized for SW. I can bypass the Stridsberg and

go
direct to
the receiver(s), but still the transformers are wound for SW.

Other than orientation (your pic suggests 2 ants at right

angles)
is there
any advantage using two longwires of different lengths?

Yes, many times I can get better reception by switching between

the
two as
signals arrive from different directions. Additionally, the 200'

wire works well
on many SW frequencies arriving from a W or E direction.

BTW, how tall are your supports?

9'. They are, as I recall 4x4x12 treated wood, sunk 3' into the

ground.

I would second the need for a matching transformer,
it really does made a huge difference. I'd recommend
reading the articles by John Bryant at
http://www.dxing.info/equipment/ for more info.


Thanks for pointing out the dx'ing.info site again, I don't go there

very often
and I see that there is a more recent article there entitled "A

Second Look at
Fabricating Impedance Transformers for Receiving Antennas" An

interesting read
as I still use the FT-50-43 toroids and they seem to recommend

either the FT-82
or FT-114 in a type 75 mix.


They were testing primarily the low bands for the "second
look" paper, so I'd imagine that influenced their decision
to go with the J/75.

--Mike L.




HankG November 30th 04 03:42 PM


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


HankG wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael Lawson wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


-=jd=- wrote:

On Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:29:49a, dxAce
wrote in message :



Michael Lawson wrote:

Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use the
top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I was
curious about your setup. Do you have a buried
coax leading to your shack??

Yes, both runs of coax are buried, leading into Transi-trap
lightning protectors, then up to a two way anrenna switch,
then to the Stridsburg multi-coupler, then to the
receivers.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




When you disconnect the coax (say, when a thunder storm is
moving in), do you just disconnect from the switch or do you
disconnect outside?

The reason I ask is that when I had the 300' of wire, it
seemed to be a fairly decent static-charge collector. The neon
in the static-bleeder would get a pretty decent workout from
time to time. It got to the point I kept the coax disconnected
outside as the norm - connecting it only when I wanted to
listen.

I can imagine with both of your wires, your transi-traps are
worth several times their weight in gold...

I just disconnect from the switch. Never had any problems as the
antennas
themselves are directly grounded at the feedpoint through the
transformers.

You're using your 10:1 transformer for the grounding?

Well, yes. There is no direct connection between the antenna and

coaxial
cable.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Ace:

Are you using a tuner on that 200 footer?


No, no tuner. On that or the 70'.

I'm using an untuned, uncoupled,
directly connected 200 ft piece of wire which I'm thinking of upgrading.

I
currently use it mostly for LW and MW up to about 2Mhz. What frequency
range do you use it for mostly?


I use them both for everything, however my system( including the

Stridsberg
multicoupler, which was modified by Stridsberg for me), and the

transformers
themselves are optimized for SW. I can bypass the Stridsberg and go direct

to
the receiver(s), but still the transformers are wound for SW.

Other than orientation (your pic suggests 2 ants at right angles) is

there
any advantage using two longwires of different lengths?


Yes, many times I can get better reception by switching between the two as
signals arrive from different directions. Additionally, the 200' wire

works well
on many SW frequencies arriving from a W or E direction.

BTW, how tall are your supports?


9'. They are, as I recall 4x4x12 treated wood, sunk 3' into the ground.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Thanks for a usually comprehensive answer. Are you using 10:1

transformers?

HankG



dxAce November 30th 04 03:42 PM



Michael Lawson wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael Lawson wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


HankG wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael Lawson wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


-=jd=- wrote:

On Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:29:49a, dxAce


wrote in message :



Michael Lawson wrote:

Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use

the
top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I

was
curious about your setup. Do you have a buried
coax leading to your shack??

Yes, both runs of coax are buried, leading into
Transi-trap
lightning protectors, then up to a two way anrenna
switch,
then to the Stridsburg multi-coupler, then to the
receivers.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




When you disconnect the coax (say, when a thunder

storm is
moving in), do you just disconnect from the switch or

do
you
disconnect outside?

The reason I ask is that when I had the 300' of wire,

it
seemed to be a fairly decent static-charge collector.

The
neon
in the static-bleeder would get a pretty decent

workout
from
time to time. It got to the point I kept the coax
disconnected
outside as the norm - connecting it only when I wanted

to
listen.

I can imagine with both of your wires, your

transi-traps
are
worth several times their weight in gold...

I just disconnect from the switch. Never had any

problems as
the
antennas
themselves are directly grounded at the feedpoint

through
the
transformers.

You're using your 10:1 transformer for the grounding?

Well, yes. There is no direct connection between the antenna

and
coaxial
cable.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Ace:

Are you using a tuner on that 200 footer?

No, no tuner. On that or the 70'.

I'm using an untuned, uncoupled,
directly connected 200 ft piece of wire which I'm thinking of
upgrading. I
currently use it mostly for LW and MW up to about 2Mhz. What
frequency
range do you use it for mostly?

I use them both for everything, however my system( including the
Stridsberg
multicoupler, which was modified by Stridsberg for me), and the
transformers
themselves are optimized for SW. I can bypass the Stridsberg and

go
direct to
the receiver(s), but still the transformers are wound for SW.

Other than orientation (your pic suggests 2 ants at right

angles)
is there
any advantage using two longwires of different lengths?

Yes, many times I can get better reception by switching between

the
two as
signals arrive from different directions. Additionally, the 200'
wire works well
on many SW frequencies arriving from a W or E direction.

BTW, how tall are your supports?

9'. They are, as I recall 4x4x12 treated wood, sunk 3' into the
ground.

I would second the need for a matching transformer,
it really does made a huge difference. I'd recommend
reading the articles by John Bryant at
http://www.dxing.info/equipment/ for more info.


Thanks for pointing out the dx'ing.info site again, I don't go there

very often
and I see that there is a more recent article there entitled "A

Second Look at
Fabricating Impedance Transformers for Receiving Antennas" An

interesting read
as I still use the FT-50-43 toroids and they seem to recommend

either the FT-82
or FT-114 in a type 75 mix.


They were testing primarily the low bands for the "second
look" paper, so I'd imagine that influenced their decision
to go with the J/75.


Yeah, I'll stick with what I'm using here, it works pretty well for my uses.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce November 30th 04 04:00 PM



HankG wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


HankG wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael Lawson wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


-=jd=- wrote:

On Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:29:49a, dxAce
wrote in message :



Michael Lawson wrote:

Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use the
top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I was
curious about your setup. Do you have a buried
coax leading to your shack??

Yes, both runs of coax are buried, leading into Transi-trap
lightning protectors, then up to a two way anrenna switch,
then to the Stridsburg multi-coupler, then to the
receivers.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




When you disconnect the coax (say, when a thunder storm is
moving in), do you just disconnect from the switch or do you
disconnect outside?

The reason I ask is that when I had the 300' of wire, it
seemed to be a fairly decent static-charge collector. The neon
in the static-bleeder would get a pretty decent workout from
time to time. It got to the point I kept the coax disconnected
outside as the norm - connecting it only when I wanted to
listen.

I can imagine with both of your wires, your transi-traps are
worth several times their weight in gold...

I just disconnect from the switch. Never had any problems as the
antennas
themselves are directly grounded at the feedpoint through the
transformers.

You're using your 10:1 transformer for the grounding?

Well, yes. There is no direct connection between the antenna and

coaxial
cable.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Ace:

Are you using a tuner on that 200 footer?


No, no tuner. On that or the 70'.

I'm using an untuned, uncoupled,
directly connected 200 ft piece of wire which I'm thinking of upgrading.

I
currently use it mostly for LW and MW up to about 2Mhz. What frequency
range do you use it for mostly?


I use them both for everything, however my system( including the

Stridsberg
multicoupler, which was modified by Stridsberg for me), and the

transformers
themselves are optimized for SW. I can bypass the Stridsberg and go direct

to
the receiver(s), but still the transformers are wound for SW.

Other than orientation (your pic suggests 2 ants at right angles) is

there
any advantage using two longwires of different lengths?


Yes, many times I can get better reception by switching between the two as
signals arrive from different directions. Additionally, the 200' wire

works well
on many SW frequencies arriving from a W or E direction.

BTW, how tall are your supports?


9'. They are, as I recall 4x4x12 treated wood, sunk 3' into the ground.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Thanks for a usually comprehensive answer. Are you using 10:1

transformers?


Yes, or something very close to that!



HankG



K1NG KØNG November 30th 04 06:00 PM

Who or what is the Lincolnshire Poacher ??
Just curious
--
Gore Rilla



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On Mon 29 Nov 2004 11:29:49a, dxAce
wrote in message :



Michael Lawson wrote:

Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of trying to use the
top of my split rail fence to hold a 80' wire, so I was
curious about your setup. Do you have a buried
coax leading to your shack??

Yes, both runs of coax are buried, leading into Transi-trap
lightning protectors, then up to a two way anrenna switch,
then to the Stridsburg multi-coupler, then to the
receivers.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




When you disconnect the coax (say, when a thunder storm is
moving in), do you just disconnect from the switch or do you
disconnect outside?

The reason I ask is that when I had the 300' of wire, it
seemed to be a fairly decent static-charge collector. The
neon
in the static-bleeder would get a pretty decent workout from
time to time. It got to the point I kept the coax
disconnected
outside as the norm - connecting it only when I wanted to
listen.

I can imagine with both of your wires, your transi-traps are
worth several times their weight in gold...

I just disconnect from the switch. Never had any problems as
the
antennas
themselves are directly grounded at the feedpoint through the
transformers.

You're using your 10:1 transformer for the grounding?

Well, yes. There is no direct connection between the antenna and

coaxial
cable.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Ace:

Are you using a tuner on that 200 footer?

No, no tuner. On that or the 70'.

I'm using an untuned, uncoupled,
directly connected 200 ft piece of wire which I'm thinking of
upgrading.

I
currently use it mostly for LW and MW up to about 2Mhz. What
frequency
range do you use it for mostly?

I use them both for everything, however my system( including the

Stridsberg
multicoupler, which was modified by Stridsberg for me), and the

transformers
themselves are optimized for SW. I can bypass the Stridsberg and go
direct

to
the receiver(s), but still the transformers are wound for SW.

Other than orientation (your pic suggests 2 ants at right angles) is

there
any advantage using two longwires of different lengths?

Yes, many times I can get better reception by switching between the two
as
signals arrive from different directions. Additionally, the 200' wire

works well
on many SW frequencies arriving from a W or E direction.

BTW, how tall are your supports?

9'. They are, as I recall 4x4x12 treated wood, sunk 3' into the ground.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Thanks for a usually comprehensive answer. Are you using 10:1

transformers?


Yes, or something very close to that!



HankG





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