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Mark Zenier November 29th 04 06:08 PM

In article .com,
wrote:
Always thought the reason car radios did so well is that they were able
to use the car itself as some sort of antanna. Likely won't be rolling
a jalopy into the office to listen... ;^)


Got a metal filing cabinet?

That said, I have seen your recommendation around a bit, you just
(apparently) have to add an antenna.


Basically, the radio has a built in active antenna circuit designed for
a high impedance short rod. Something similar to the car antenna would
be best. A length of the right coax to a 3-4 foot rod mounted verticaly
outside on a gutter? I think older radios used a special low capacitance
coax, not the 50 or 75 ohm stuff.

Mark Zenier
Washington State resident


RHF November 29th 04 07:07 PM

RB,

I have the CCRadio Plus with the Kiwa Up-Grades; the GE Superadios I, II
and III; the Tivoli Model One; the Grundig S350/Tecsun BCL-2000; and a
few other AM/MW and FM Radios.

X to the CCRadio Plus overloads in Urban Areas and has no RF Gain
or Local/DX Switch. Has an very poor 'external' Antenna Input.

X to the GE Superadios have no Digital Display; all are good for AM/MW
DXing and have good FM Sound.
IMHO: The GE Superadios II is the best of the three

X to the Tivoli Model One has no Digital Display; the FM Tuner is OK;
but the AM/MW Tuner is only so so.

I prefer the Grundig S350 "Super Radio" Tecsun BCL-2000 as my main
'portable' Radio for the following:
* Price, Features and Preformance of the Radio.
+ Analog Tuning
+ Digital Frequency Display
+ Wide and Narrow AM 'IF' Filters
+ RF Gain Control
+ Two Tuning Speeds (Fine Tuning)
+ Separate AM/SW and FM 'external' Antenna Inputs
- Terminals for 500 Ohm HI-Z AM/SW Antenna and Ground Connection.
- PAL Connector (Adapter for "F" Connector) for FM Antenna.
* The 'physical size' of the Radio.
* The Lay-Out of the 'controls' of the Radio.
* Very Long Battery Life; plus AC Power.
* Plus the FM 'audio' Sound Quality of the Radio.
Make it an Enjoyable 'portable' Radio to Listen To and Fun to Use.

AM/MW DXing "Requires" a Good AM/MW Antenna.
If you are serious about listening to 'distant' Sports Programs
during the Day: Then you must consider building a Sports Fan's
Box Loop Antenna. These are usually Three to Four Feet Square
Box Loop Antenna's that are 'tuned' and 'positioned' for that
distant AM/MW Radio Station that broadcasts the Sports Program
that you wish to listen.

READ: Back-of-the-Door as a "Super Loop" Antenna
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/798
- Use your Closet Door (Back-of-Door) as a "Super Loop" Antenna.
- How to Get Better AM Radio Reception
- AM/MW Antennas and AM/MW Antenna Booster
- AM/MW Loop Antenna Coupler
- Build a Three or Four Foot Box Loop for the AM/MW Broadcast Band
[ AMANDX presented by Shawn Axelrod ]
- The Australian One Metre (1m) Loop Antenna by Werner Funkenhauser

The-Bottom-Line: For the Best AM/MW Reception requires the 'right'
AM/MW Radio and matching AM/MW Antenna "Combination".

iane ~ RHF
..
Grundig S350 "Super Radio" Tecsun BCL-2000 eGroup on YAHOO !
GS350= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Grundig-S350/
..
..
= = = (Ruffin Bailey) wrote in message
= = = . com...
It appears from past posts that AM/FM questions are fair game here; I
apologize in advance to any hard-core SWers.

I'm looking for the best, relatively inexpensive ($150) home radio
for listening to talk radio with the following
considertaions/constraints...

1.) I like to listen to a somewhat difficult to receive FM station
day & night which my home cheapie radios don't pick up well (though
the cars do very well). It would appear for FM you can't do better
than a Model One (
http://www.tivoliaudio.com/product.p...139&cat=&page=)
(one such review: http://wkhr.org/articles.htm). The Boston
Acoustics Recepter is reported to perform as well as the Model One
(CNET says better --
http://reviews.cnet.com/Boston_Acous...2.html?tag=top),
though it's a bit more expensive.

2.) There's a local, fairly low-power (harder to hear at night than
day) AM sports station I like to listen to. In two of our cars I get
decent daytime reception. Nighttime reception is spotty at best.
Cheapie home radios don't pick up the station well at all.

It would appear the CC Radio
(http://www.ccrane.com/ccradio-plus-am-fm-radio.aspx) comes highly
recommended by many, though just as many seem to say the much less
expensive GE Superadio III
(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...onics&n=172282)
does as well if not better. This is apparently due to the longer AM
antannae in these radios.

The Model One seems to have fairly pedestrian AM reception
(http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...N%26tab %3Dwg).

3.) I like to catch NBA & MLB games (and the few late NFL games) on
AM late at night, no matter the station. I'm in the Carolinas, and
can catch 1120 from St. Louis, 880 from NYC, and 1000 from Cleveland
(iirc) in one car with varying results. The reception is pretty noisy
and usually goes in and out. But, depending on weather, I can usually
find something worth listening to in the car. Not so with any other
vehicles or home radios (though, strangely, my Sony Walkman picks up
AM fairly well, but perhaps only b/c it's so easy to move around for
better pickup). Again, I suppose the CCRadio or, more likely, the
Superadio would be the better choice out of the box.

4.) The Model One looks kewl.

5.) I want a fixed-location, indoor radio, so adding antannae isn't
an issue and battery power isn't a big plus.

Any specific recommendations/remarks would be appreciated, but I do
have one pointed question -- it appears a good, external AM antennae
like those at C. Crane (http://www.ccrane.com/am-antenna.aspx) or
perhaps even the kits sold here
(http://www.mtmscientific.com/loop.html or
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Underground/8585/) turn most any
AM radio into a pretty high-class receiver. Is that true? Would
something like the C Crane antennae or even a Radio Shack loop turn a
Model One into a great AM box? If so, why the upset over, eg, the
Model One's AM reception like the thread quoted at the end of 2.),
above? Is there anything about my desire for AM reception as
described in 2 & 3 that would override my irrational desire for 4,
were I willing to shell out for an AM antennae?

Thanks!

Ruffin Bailey


David November 30th 04 07:04 PM

The co-ax must be very high impedance. AM car radio co-ax has a very
thin inner conductor. It is nothing like RG58 or 59.

The aforementioned MFJ-1024 is a car radio antenna with an impedance
convertor that can easily drive 100' of RG-58.

On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:08:35 GMT, (Mark Zenier)
wrote:

In article .com,
wrote:
Always thought the reason car radios did so well is that they were able
to use the car itself as some sort of antanna. Likely won't be rolling
a jalopy into the office to listen... ;^)


Got a metal filing cabinet?

That said, I have seen your recommendation around a bit, you just
(apparently) have to add an antenna.


Basically, the radio has a built in active antenna circuit designed for
a high impedance short rod. Something similar to the car antenna would
be best. A length of the right coax to a 3-4 foot rod mounted verticaly
outside on a gutter? I think older radios used a special low capacitance
coax, not the 50 or 75 ohm stuff.

Mark Zenier
Washington State resident



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