How many frequencies do they need!?!?!? They are ALL OVER the place!!!
At times I cant here other stations because they are on the same
frequencies as other stations or one close by and they outpower them.

david_ruy-barbosa wrote:

How many frequencies do they need!?!?!?

One more than can be jammed, I would guess.

-- Don

Don Del Grande wrote:

david_ruy-barbosa wrote:

How many frequencies do they need!?!?!?

One more than can be jammed, I would guess.

-- Don

What I don't get is why, when the "bad guys" have found a frequency and
are jamming it regularly, they continue broadcasting there. Radio Free
Asia, which is also a US Govt operation, does the same thing-on any
given day around 1200 UTC you can hear RFA ALL OVER the bands,
practically on every third freq, and every single one of those freqs has
that distinctive Chinese jammer. If it's being jammed, STOP USING IT!
DUH! I thought the whole point of having lots of frequencies was that
the "bad guys" couldn't possibly jam all of them, but if they find out
where you are, that sort of defeats the whole point.




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"tommyknocker" wrote in message
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Don Del Grande wrote:

david_ruy-barbosa wrote:

How many frequencies do they need!?!?!?

One more than can be jammed, I would guess.

-- Don

What I don't get is why, when the "bad guys" have found a frequency and
are jamming it regularly, they continue broadcasting there. Radio Free
Asia, which is also a US Govt operation, does the same thing-on any
given day around 1200 UTC you can hear RFA ALL OVER the bands,
practically on every third freq, and every single one of those freqs has
that distinctive Chinese jammer. If it's being jammed, STOP USING IT!
DUH! I thought the whole point of having lots of frequencies was that
the "bad guys" couldn't possibly jam all of them, but if they find out
where you are, that sort of defeats the whole point.

I regularly listen to a station here in S. Korea (1080 KHz) that's heavily
jammed (I'd say in the hundreds of thousands of watts, judging by the signal
strength) by the North Koreans. Just because it's jammed, doesn't mean it
doesn't still reach a good number of it's intended audience.

Also, although YOU may not listen to jammed or noisy signals, many billions
in this part of the world do regularly, since it's the only way they have of
hearing news from the outside world. We in the west are far too used to
having things 'perfect', and most of us do not realize the hardships much of
the world goes through to have the smallest bit of the information (or other
things, for that matter) that we have.

Brenda Ann wrote:


"tommyknocker" wrote in message
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Don Del Grande wrote:

david_ruy-barbosa wrote:

How many frequencies do they need!?!?!?

One more than can be jammed, I would guess.

-- Don

What I don't get is why, when the "bad guys" have found a frequency and
are jamming it regularly, they continue broadcasting there. Radio Free
Asia, which is also a US Govt operation, does the same thing-on any
given day around 1200 UTC you can hear RFA ALL OVER the bands,
practically on every third freq, and every single one of those freqs has
that distinctive Chinese jammer. If it's being jammed, STOP USING IT!
DUH! I thought the whole point of having lots of frequencies was that
the "bad guys" couldn't possibly jam all of them, but if they find out
where you are, that sort of defeats the whole point.

I regularly listen to a station here in S. Korea (1080 KHz) that's heavily
jammed (I'd say in the hundreds of thousands of watts, judging by the signal
strength) by the North Koreans. Just because it's jammed, doesn't mean it
doesn't still reach a good number of it's intended audience.

RFA broadcasts in Korean too from what I've read, although I've
personally never logged them in that language.

Also, although YOU may not listen to jammed or noisy signals, many billions
in this part of the world do regularly, since it's the only way they have of
hearing news from the outside world. We in the west are far too used to
having things 'perfect', and most of us do not realize the hardships much of
the world goes through to have the smallest bit of the information (or other
things, for that matter) that we have.

I think that the whole idea of "perfect" reception is what's driving the
whole push towards signal digitization, especially in the US and Europe.
I'm not just talking about DRM but digital FM and digital TV, the latter
of which is making big strides in the US under the name "HDTV" (because
it's supposed to have "high definition" picture quality). The FCC is
heavily pushing HDTV, making stations invest zillions of $ in new
transmitting equipment and encouraging Hollywood to shoot TV shows in
HD. Perhaps that's why the FCC isn't so concerned about BPL interfering
with analog TV, they think it will give them an excuse to push for a
complete and sudden end to analog TV and a move into HDTV. Never mind
that the cheapest HDTV set currently available is around $1000. No,
they're going to force us all to shell out big bucks to replace our
analog sets. Never mind that most people can't afford it, the
commissioners at the FCC can, so they think that we should be able to as
well. I'm sure that will mean big profits for the huge corporations that
the FCC is beholden to, but for the rest of us, it means a huge
financial hit. The average HDTV set is around $3000-4000.



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"tommyknocker" wrote in message
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I think that the whole idea of "perfect" reception is what's driving the
whole push towards signal digitization, especially in the US and Europe.
I'm not just talking about DRM but digital FM and digital TV, the latter
of which is making big strides in the US under the name "HDTV" (because
it's supposed to have "high definition" picture quality). The FCC is
heavily pushing HDTV, making stations invest zillions of $ in new
transmitting equipment and encouraging Hollywood to shoot TV shows in
HD. Perhaps that's why the FCC isn't so concerned about BPL interfering
with analog TV, they think it will give them an excuse to push for a
complete and sudden end to analog TV and a move into HDTV. Never mind
that the cheapest HDTV set currently available is around $1000. No,
they're going to force us all to shell out big bucks to replace our
analog sets. Never mind that most people can't afford it, the
commissioners at the FCC can, so they think that we should be able to as
well. I'm sure that will mean big profits for the huge corporations that
the FCC is beholden to, but for the rest of us, it means a huge
financial hit. The average HDTV set is around $3000-4000.



And add to that that very few stations are actually broadcasting in HDTV..
but in, IIRC, 720i, which is barely better (supposedly) than analog NTSC,
and, IMHO, looks like crap.. pixelized, shoddy, nasty. This so they can
stuff five video services onto a single channel, rather than one High
Definition one.

tommyknocker wrote:

Don Del Grande wrote:

david_ruy-barbosa wrote:

How many frequencies do they need!?!?!?

One more than can be jammed, I would guess.

-- Don

What I don't get is why, when the "bad guys" have found a frequency and
are jamming it regularly, they continue broadcasting there. Radio Free
Asia, which is also a US Govt operation, does the same thing-on any
given day around 1200 UTC you can hear RFA ALL OVER the bands,
practically on every third freq, and every single one of those freqs has
that distinctive Chinese jammer. If it's being jammed, STOP USING IT!
DUH! I thought the whole point of having lots of frequencies was that
the "bad guys" couldn't possibly jam all of them, but if they find out
where you are, that sort of defeats the whole point.

Well, many times the jamming is not effective on every frequency on every day.

At the same time, the listeners have to be able to find you. If they don't know where
you're at, it is all for naught.

Now you get back to me when you get this radio thing figured out.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

dxAce wrote:

Now you get back to me when you get this radio thing figured out.


You were doing so well, too. Let's not backslide into the insults again.



mike

david_ruy-barbosa wrote:

How many frequencies do they need!?!?!? They are ALL OVER the place!!!
At times I cant here other stations because they are on the same
frequencies as other stations or one close by and they outpower them.


No, Radio Marti is part of a vast conspiracy to jam Radio Reblede

On 28 Nov 2004 12:15:28 -0800,
(david_ruy-barbosa) wrote:

How many frequencies do they need!?!?!? They are ALL OVER the place!!!
At times I cant here other stations because they are on the same
frequencies as other stations or one close by and they outpower them.

It's a side effect to jamming. The more you are jammed the more
frequencies you use which means the more frequencies are used by
jammers which means...

the more the effect on the bands sucks