KK4TL wrote:
Al Patrick wrote ...


Oh, for those who want BOTH sides of the issue:



Good post, Al. Inquiring SWL-ers wanna know.

I didn't see any mention of the "situation" on the overcomer web page.
Is it there and I missed it ?

I figured the profit's people would wanna keep this one under wraps.

I logged in very briefly just to be sure I had the right URL. Didn't do
much looking around. Ask Darren! He can probably tell you. ;-)

I've been intending to comment for some time and kept putting it off.
Ever notice how clearly and distinctly Bro. Stair gives the web address?
Actually, he speaks pretty clearly and distinctly most of the time. But
there seems to be a sense of pride when he says, "DOT O R G" like it was
assigned especially to "Ol' R.G." -- Stair. ;-)

Seriously, I don't wish Stair any harm. However, He's old enough and
smart enough that SURELY he knew what the risks were. I suspect it's
time to turn over the reigns of the Overcomer Ministry to one of his
associates. Had he done this - WILLINGLY - in the first place most of
this could have probably - and would have probably - been avoided!

He used great enthusiasm when telling about the decline of other
ministries; i.e., Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker and a number of others that
were predicted to fall whether he named them all or not.

May GOD'S will be done!

Yeah, don't ask me about the court case, I don't keep up on the stuff.
My buddy Al is on top of things, and keeps me up to date. I'm still
amongst those who'd like to see R.G. given some slack. Darren





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"D. Martin" wrote in message
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Yeah, don't ask me about the court case, I don't keep up on the stuff.
My buddy Al is on top of things, and keeps me up to date. I'm still
amongst those who'd like to see R.G. given some slack. Darren

And you're still amongst those who don't quote the post to which you're
responding, and you're still amongst those who won't explain why Stair
should be given any slack if in fact he's guilty of the accusations. Cutting
him slack before the establishment of guilt or innocence is one thing; why
should he rate any afterwards if he's guilty?

My buddy, R.G. Stair, was live on my shortwave this morning. He made
mention of his court case. He said, for all intents and purposes, it's
over with. Darren





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"D. Martin" wrote in message
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My buddy, R.G. Stair, was live on my shortwave this morning. He made
mention of his court case. He said, for all intents and purposes, it's
over with. Darren

So he's pleading guilty, eh? Great...save us some tax dollars.

Honus wrote:
"D. Martin" wrote in message
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My buddy, R.G. Stair, was live on my shortwave this morning. He made
mention of his court case. He said, for all intents and purposes, it's
over with. Darren


So he's pleading guilty, eh? Great...save us some tax dollars.

Honus, You disappoint me. I thought YOU'D say, "So when do they pass
around the Jonestown kool aid!" ;-)

"Al Patrick" wrote in message
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Honus wrote:
"D. Martin" wrote in message
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My buddy, R.G. Stair, was live on my shortwave this morning. He made
mention of his court case. He said, for all intents and purposes, it's
over with. Darren


So he's pleading guilty, eh? Great...save us some tax dollars.

Honus, You disappoint me. I thought YOU'D say, "So when do they pass
around the Jonestown kool aid!" ;-)

To tell you the truth, I'm not sure how to take that.

Honus wrote:
"Al Patrick" wrote in message
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Honus wrote:

"D. Martin" wrote in message
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My buddy, R.G. Stair, was live on my shortwave this morning. He made
mention of his court case. He said, for all intents and purposes, it's
over with. Darren


So he's pleading guilty, eh? Great...save us some tax dollars.

Honus, You disappoint me. I thought YOU'D say, "So when do they pass
around the Jonestown kool aid!" ;-)


To tell you the truth, I'm not sure how to take that.


Well, I doubt he's pleading guilty - unless it's to a MUCH lesser
charge. (That could be the case as the courts seem to like to make all
cases real cut and dry -- and easy on themselves!)

I also doubt he's going to willingly give up his control over the group.
HE may be a bit delusional on the matter or his attorney has assured
him that "it's in the bag" as far as a payoff is concerned.

You don't think Darren was attempting to pull the group's leg do you?
That's the first thing I thought of. I started to reply a good bit
earlier and decided to wait and see who took his bait.

It seems to be way to quick and easy. It takes DAYS - sometimes WEEKS -
just to seat a jury in most high profile cases. Unless all the
plaintiffs have been bought or frightened off this case has not gotten
started good.

Maybe God told him He's going to take him home so he won't have to meet
Bubba! ;-)

I like Stair, that much is true. I wouldn't fit into the setting there,
at his farm. The first time I lit up a cigarette, or cranked up some Joe
Satriani, they'd be beside themselves. Then, if some brother was hitting
on my woman, I'd probably have to send him off to judgement. From a
distance, I can appreciate the ministry of the "overcomer". Darren





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I was surprised by Stair for three reasons: One, I kept running into him all
the time on the dial, always getting great reception, even though he sounds
like he is off the deep in. Two, I didnt know he was on trial at all. Three,
when he gave his station address I was shocked and embarrassed to find him from
my home state of South Carolina. I have known a couple guys from Walterboro
though, and they were just as mental a Stair. May God have mercy on the
place....