NO days to Stair Trial!
 

A quick call to the Press and Standard this AM says the Stair trial IS
going forward. The lady with whom I talked said she is sure Libby is
gong to "stay on top of it". I don't know if she meant it HAS STARTED
or it is STILL SCHEDULED. It was about 10:15 when I called.

She also felt it was Libby who kept The Net Team updated. They could
have gotten it from the newspaper, however, as most of their articles
seemed to be newspaper scans.

In a previous post I quoted the Press and Standard telephone number from
on OLD article before the area codes all across the nation began massive
changes. The 803 has since changed to 843.

843-549-2586 is their current number.

Oh, for those who want BOTH sides of the issue:

http://www.overcomerministry.org/ They just may keep us informed a bit
but we'll have to read between the lines as they'll be viewing the whole
thing from a slightly different angle than The Net Team, the Remnant's
Hope group, the courts and the Press and Standard.

http://www.thenetteam.net/

http://remnantshope.com/

Al

Al Patrick wrote ...


Oh, for those who want BOTH sides of the issue:


Good post, Al. Inquiring SWL-ers wanna know.

I didn't see any mention of the "situation" on the overcomer web page.
Is it there and I missed it ?

I figured the profit's people would wanna keep this one under wraps.

Wonder if the attorneys from the Davies family are providing any pro
bono assistance to the profit in his time of need? Just kidding - I
think the answer to that one is .. "predictable".

I still say somebody better call on Sister Theresa at 1-843-538-3892.
I predict that she might be ready to tie one on by this weekend.

KK4TL wrote:
Al Patrick wrote ...


Oh, for those who want BOTH sides of the issue:



Good post, Al. Inquiring SWL-ers wanna know.

I didn't see any mention of the "situation" on the overcomer web page.
Is it there and I missed it ?

I figured the profit's people would wanna keep this one under wraps.

I logged in very briefly just to be sure I had the right URL. Didn't do
much looking around. Ask Darren! He can probably tell you. ;-)

I've been intending to comment for some time and kept putting it off.
Ever notice how clearly and distinctly Bro. Stair gives the web address?
Actually, he speaks pretty clearly and distinctly most of the time. But
there seems to be a sense of pride when he says, "DOT O R G" like it was
assigned especially to "Ol' R.G." -- Stair. ;-)

Seriously, I don't wish Stair any harm. However, He's old enough and
smart enough that SURELY he knew what the risks were. I suspect it's
time to turn over the reigns of the Overcomer Ministry to one of his
associates. Had he done this - WILLINGLY - in the first place most of
this could have probably - and would have probably - been avoided!

He used great enthusiasm when telling about the decline of other
ministries; i.e., Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker and a number of others that
were predicted to fall whether he named them all or not.

May GOD'S will be done!

Yeah, don't ask me about the court case, I don't keep up on the stuff.
My buddy Al is on top of things, and keeps me up to date. I'm still
amongst those who'd like to see R.G. given some slack. Darren





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"D. Martin" wrote in message
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Yeah, don't ask me about the court case, I don't keep up on the stuff.
My buddy Al is on top of things, and keeps me up to date. I'm still
amongst those who'd like to see R.G. given some slack. Darren

And you're still amongst those who don't quote the post to which you're
responding, and you're still amongst those who won't explain why Stair
should be given any slack if in fact he's guilty of the accusations. Cutting
him slack before the establishment of guilt or innocence is one thing; why
should he rate any afterwards if he's guilty?

My buddy, R.G. Stair, was live on my shortwave this morning. He made
mention of his court case. He said, for all intents and purposes, it's
over with. Darren





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"D. Martin" wrote in message
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My buddy, R.G. Stair, was live on my shortwave this morning. He made
mention of his court case. He said, for all intents and purposes, it's
over with. Darren

So he's pleading guilty, eh? Great...save us some tax dollars.

Honus wrote:
"D. Martin" wrote in message
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My buddy, R.G. Stair, was live on my shortwave this morning. He made
mention of his court case. He said, for all intents and purposes, it's
over with. Darren


So he's pleading guilty, eh? Great...save us some tax dollars.

Honus, You disappoint me. I thought YOU'D say, "So when do they pass
around the Jonestown kool aid!" ;-)

"Al Patrick" wrote in message
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Honus wrote:
"D. Martin" wrote in message
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My buddy, R.G. Stair, was live on my shortwave this morning. He made
mention of his court case. He said, for all intents and purposes, it's
over with. Darren


So he's pleading guilty, eh? Great...save us some tax dollars.

Honus, You disappoint me. I thought YOU'D say, "So when do they pass
around the Jonestown kool aid!" ;-)

To tell you the truth, I'm not sure how to take that.

I like Stair, that much is true. I wouldn't fit into the setting there,
at his farm. The first time I lit up a cigarette, or cranked up some Joe
Satriani, they'd be beside themselves. Then, if some brother was hitting
on my woman, I'd probably have to send him off to judgement. From a
distance, I can appreciate the ministry of the "overcomer". Darren





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Honus wrote:
"Al Patrick" wrote in message
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Honus wrote:

"D. Martin" wrote in message
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My buddy, R.G. Stair, was live on my shortwave this morning. He made
mention of his court case. He said, for all intents and purposes, it's
over with. Darren


So he's pleading guilty, eh? Great...save us some tax dollars.

Honus, You disappoint me. I thought YOU'D say, "So when do they pass
around the Jonestown kool aid!" ;-)


To tell you the truth, I'm not sure how to take that.


Well, I doubt he's pleading guilty - unless it's to a MUCH lesser
charge. (That could be the case as the courts seem to like to make all
cases real cut and dry -- and easy on themselves!)

I also doubt he's going to willingly give up his control over the group.
HE may be a bit delusional on the matter or his attorney has assured
him that "it's in the bag" as far as a payoff is concerned.

You don't think Darren was attempting to pull the group's leg do you?
That's the first thing I thought of. I started to reply a good bit
earlier and decided to wait and see who took his bait.

It seems to be way to quick and easy. It takes DAYS - sometimes WEEKS -
just to seat a jury in most high profile cases. Unless all the
plaintiffs have been bought or frightened off this case has not gotten
started good.

Maybe God told him He's going to take him home so he won't have to meet
Bubba! ;-)

From the sound of things this morning, it appears as though he copped a
plea. He said he pleaded guilty to a single charge, and that the rest
were dismissed. Darren





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I was surprised by Stair for three reasons: One, I kept running into him all
the time on the dial, always getting great reception, even though he sounds
like he is off the deep in. Two, I didnt know he was on trial at all. Three,
when he gave his station address I was shocked and embarrassed to find him from
my home state of South Carolina. I have known a couple guys from Walterboro
though, and they were just as mental a Stair. May God have mercy on the
place....

"Al Patrick" wrote in message
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Honus wrote:
"Al Patrick" wrote in message
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Honus wrote:

"D. Martin" wrote in message
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My buddy, R.G. Stair, was live on my shortwave this morning. He made
mention of his court case. He said, for all intents and purposes, it's
over with. Darren


So he's pleading guilty, eh? Great...save us some tax dollars.

Honus, You disappoint me. I thought YOU'D say, "So when do they pass
around the Jonestown kool aid!" ;-)


To tell you the truth, I'm not sure how to take that.


Well, I doubt he's pleading guilty - unless it's to a MUCH lesser
charge. (That could be the case as the courts seem to like to make all
cases real cut and dry -- and easy on themselves!)

Oh, I was just being a smart-ass with that guilty remark. I wouldn't really
expect it either.

I also doubt he's going to willingly give up his control over the group.

Hell, no. It's good to be king. Or so I'm told. I'd sure like to know first
hand, though.

You don't think Darren was attempting to pull the group's leg do you?
That's the first thing I thought of. I started to reply a good bit
earlier and decided to wait and see who took his bait.

Not at all. I took it just as he said it, and assumed that Stair was just
displaying a bit of braggadocio. I don't see Darren as the baiting type.

It seems to be way to quick and easy. It takes DAYS - sometimes WEEKS -
just to seat a jury in most high profile cases. Unless all the
plaintiffs have been bought or frightened off this case has not gotten
started good.

Do you know that it's going to be a jury trial?

Maybe God told him He's going to take him home so he won't have to meet
Bubba! ;-)

Naw...guys like Stair are always thinking they'll get protection in the face
of their enemas...uh, enemies. I don't believe that their mind-set includes
being spirited off to safety out of reach of their foes, even if it -is- to
the right hand of God which is where I'll bet Stair thinks he'll end up.

D. Martin wrote:
From the sound of things this morning, it appears as though he copped a
plea. He said he pleaded guilty to a single charge, and that the rest
were dismissed. Darren

THAT part I CAN believe. I heard somewhere, probably SW, that the feds
pay the court system so much for EVERY case they CLOSE. For this
reason, in addition to monetary reasons, they love to plea bargain. A
person can be charged with three murders and if there's the slightest
doubt in their minds they'll let him plea it down to one involuntary
manslaughter! There NO JUSTICE in that kind of bargaining! (Check out
Isaiah chapter 1. It tells of some rottenness but in verse 26 the
judges are to be restored as at the first, thus indicating a period when
the judges were NOT judges. Of course that is very well demonstrated a
few verses prior.)

Besides that, someone probably got to the young women and "explained" to
them how they were going to look like whores AND complete idiots when
they got through cross examining them in front of the "whole world"!
Either that or Bro. Stair decided to show his generosity by giving them
some money. Others probably told them how they were not to go to court
against a brother, before infidels, and/or how they were really going to
hurt God's work by bringing this man down to shame and possibly to his
grave.

I listened to him a short time off and on today to see if I could
confirm what you said. Much of what I heard was REALLY OLD tapes he
made back in the '80's probably.

I look forward to seeing what the "official" version of the case is.
Also, seeing what The Net Team and Remnant's Hope have to post on it -
if they do. This will have turned out so differently from what they
apparently had wanted that they may just ignore it or provide a lot of
reasons why it never should have been decided this way. Personally, as
the old saying goes, "I don't have a dog in this fight!"

Honus wrote:
"Al Patrick" wrote in message
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It seems to be way to quick and easy. It takes DAYS - sometimes WEEKS -
just to seat a jury in most high profile cases. Unless all the
plaintiffs have been bought or frightened off this case has not gotten
started good.


Do you know that it's going to be a jury trial?

I previously assumed it would be. Now, I don't know that there'll even
be a "trial" - perhaps just a "decision"! ;-)

Shortly after 10:00 EST / 15:00 UTC I flipped over to 7.465 to see if
Stair was discussing anything about his trial. He was already
discussing it and about all I caught was he was free AND THE RECORD
WOULD BE PURGED!

Al Patrick wrote ...


I previously assumed it would be. Now, I don't know that there'll even
be a "trial" - perhaps just a "decision"! ;-)

I tell you who's disappointed besides us if the profit skates.

The young "brothers" at CCI.

All those wigs.

All that Vaseline.

And no profit.

Plus they gotta give back all the raffle money.

Bummer.

"Frank Dresser" wrote ...

Let's all hope a reinvigorated Last Day Prophet of God has an outstanding
year in 2005. I'm looking forward to the end of the world every month for a
whole year!!

Hear hear - good call Frank. I second that. We want false
predictions galore.
I wanna hear about the pope of rome putting a hit on the profit.
I wanna know when Reagan's leaving office.
I wanna know when Chicago is gonna be nuked by the muslims.
I wanna hear Sister Teresa sing "The King is Coming" every 15 minutes,
24-7.

But even if the profit goes to CCI, there's enough re-runs to keep the
message alive for a hundred years. Hey - it would be a "win-win"
situation.

I eat up that "one world government", "microchip implantation" ,
"manipulation of populaces", "aristocracy of evil", type of programming.
I literally gorge on the stuff. Darren





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"D. Martin" wrote in message
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I eat up that "one world government", "microchip implantation" ,
"manipulation of populaces", "aristocracy of evil", type of programming.
I literally gorge on the stuff. Darren

You do realize, don't you, that you give the impression that you are what
you eat?

Yeah, that did occur to me, after I hit "post". So, to reclarify my
point, even if Stair is a delf-diluted pseudo prophet, at least he reads
articles from other conspiracy types. Darren





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"KK4TL" wrote in message
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[snip]


But even if the profit goes to CCI, there's enough re-runs to keep the
message alive for a hundred years. Hey - it would be a "win-win"
situation.

Or a win-win-win situation. We might have been on the dawn of a new age of
incarceration theology. Imagine Brother Stair accompanied by two large
companions, all wearing natty business suits and bow ties. His companions
are now known as Tyrone X and Leroy X -- named after Planet X. Tyrone and
Leroy are part of "The Fruit of the Prophet". I'd be careful with any fruit
wisecracks, however. TX and LX look angry enough as it is.

Frank Dresser

D. Martin wrote:
Yeah, that did occur to me, after I hit "post". So, to reclarify my
point, even if Stair is a delf-diluted pseudo prophet, at least he reads
articles from other conspiracy types. Darren

How bout splaining dat delf-diluted stuff!

Tanks - in advance. ;-)

Honus wrote:
"D. Martin" wrote in message
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I eat up that "one world government", "microchip implantation" ,
"manipulation of populaces", "aristocracy of evil", type of programming.
I literally gorge on the stuff. Darren


You do realize, don't you, that you give the impression that you are what
you eat?



Honus, Are you still what you eat if you "gorge" on it and then barf it
back up? ;-)

"Al Patrick" wrote in message
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Honus wrote:
"D. Martin" wrote in message
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I eat up that "one world government", "microchip implantation" ,
"manipulation of populaces", "aristocracy of evil", type of programming.
I literally gorge on the stuff. Darren


You do realize, don't you, that you give the impression that you are
what
you eat?



Honus, Are you still what you eat if you "gorge" on it and then barf it
back up? ;-)

"Al Patrick" wrote in message
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Honus wrote:
"D. Martin" wrote in message
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I eat up that "one world government", "microchip implantation" ,
"manipulation of populaces", "aristocracy of evil", type of programming.
I literally gorge on the stuff. Darren


You do realize, don't you, that you give the impression that you are
what
you eat?



Honus, Are you still what you eat if you "gorge" on it and then barf it
back up? ;-)

No, then you're merely hungry. And hopefully, wiser for the experience. But
then again, maybe I'm wrong about the "you are what you eat" thing. It's a
GIGO sort of deal. Crap goes in one orifice, crap comes out another. I'm not
sure what happens if the crap that goes in comes out of the same hole.

But I sure hope you brush teeth. ;)

Self-diluted? Maybe it's self-deluded. Can't be sure. In any event, in
the case that Stair is a blathering espouser of apocalyptic
enunciations, he'll find an audience regardless. Darren





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