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starman November 30th 04 08:08 AM

Pocket scanner with HF coverage?
 
I'm thinking about getting a VHF/UHF pocket scanner which also has some
HF coverage. I realize these models don't have really good HF reception
but I think it would be nice to have that feature just for fun. I'd
appreciate hearing from any of you that own one or know something about
the various brands/models.

Thanks


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Richard November 30th 04 01:27 PM

I had the Yupiteru MVT 7100 which is brilliant on VHF, it was OK on SW, but
nothing brilliant.

Check out http://www.strongsignals.net/index.cgi for review of scanners

Richard
SO5GB

"starman" wrote in message
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I'm thinking about getting a VHF/UHF pocket scanner which also has some
HF coverage. I realize these models don't have really good HF reception
but I think it would be nice to have that feature just for fun. I'd
appreciate hearing from any of you that own one or know something about
the various brands/models.

Thanks


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David November 30th 04 01:46 PM

This is the only one I'd consider. Note that it has Narrow AM. Wide
AM makes for very annoying HF broadcast reception.

http://www.aorusa.com/ar8200.html

On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 03:08:35 -0500, starman wrote:

I'm thinking about getting a VHF/UHF pocket scanner which also has some
HF coverage. I realize these models don't have really good HF reception
but I think it would be nice to have that feature just for fun. I'd
appreciate hearing from any of you that own one or know something about
the various brands/models.

Thanks


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Fred Zalupski November 30th 04 02:47 PM

I have a fascination with these little wideband radios, too. Of the Icom
R10, Yaesu VR500, and AOR 8200 MkII, the Yaesu seems the most sensitive
since I can receive strong stations on the factory supplied rubber duck
(remarkably, even in a car on occasion) while the Icom seems less able. For
no particular reason I haven't tried HF with the AOR. I wouldn't call the
Icom or Yaesu particularly selective on HF, but that's a very casual
observation. Usually I travel with a small Sony or Rad Shack SW radio and
carry one of the others for VHF/UHF, if that tells you anything.

The AOR is particularly non-intuitive to operate - for me there's a high
"Read The Freakin' Manual" factor. The Icom and Yaesu are easier to come
back to after a period of non use. Audio is good enough from all 3, favoring
the AOR and Yaesu. Displays and key lighting also good. Can't beat the
size/weight of the Yaesu - I carry it most often. Really like that it only
takes 2 AA cells and still has good battery life. I have avoided those
smallest rigs with no keypads, though I have read good things about the Icom
R5 in that category.

AOR has two VFOs presented in a very usuable way. Easy to view and toggle.
Never attempted SSB reception on any of them. Really like the Sony 7600 for
that in a compact package. Excellent reviews on scanners and wide band
radios found on www.strongsignals.net - if you aren't familiar with Rich
Wells' site it's a great resource.

Radio shopping is fun - good luck!

"starman" wrote in message
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I'm thinking about getting a VHF/UHF pocket scanner which also has some
HF coverage. I realize these models don't have really good HF reception
but I think it would be nice to have that feature just for fun. I'd
appreciate hearing from any of you that own one or know something about
the various brands/models.

Thanks


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Mark S. Holden November 30th 04 03:28 PM

Richard wrote:

I had the Yupiteru MVT 7100 which is brilliant on VHF, it was OK on SW, but
nothing brilliant.

Check out http://www.strongsignals.net/index.cgi for review of scanners

Richard
SO5GB


I've also got a Yupiteru MVT-7100.

I find it gets quite a few stations on HF with a $15 Radio Shaft center loaded whip antenna, but the problem is the filter is quite wide, so you might get hets from nearby frequencies.

On the bright side, the audio quality is surprisingly nice, even with the built in speaker.

It includes SSB reception.

At the time, it and the original AOR 8200 were the ones Rich Wells of strong signals was suggesting for "better" HF coverage, and my impression was he gave the Yupi the edge. Since then, the 8200 has been updated.

If you decide to go for a Yupi, it makes sense to check on the cost of new ones - it's a no gap radio, so used ones on ebay sometimes cost more than importing a new one.

Checking the Strong Signals web site for current information seems like a great idea.


"starman" wrote in message
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I'm thinking about getting a VHF/UHF pocket scanner which also has some
HF coverage. I realize these models don't have really good HF reception
but I think it would be nice to have that feature just for fun. I'd
appreciate hearing from any of you that own one or know something about
the various brands/models.

Thanks


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Ed Maikranz November 30th 04 04:04 PM

I was pleased with the Yaesu VR-500, but in my opinion nothing beats
the Yupiteru MVT-7100
Ed



starman wrote in message ...
I'm thinking about getting a VHF/UHF pocket scanner which also has some
HF coverage. I realize these models don't have really good HF reception
but I think it would be nice to have that feature just for fun. I'd
appreciate hearing from any of you that own one or know something about
the various brands/models.

Thanks


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David November 30th 04 11:28 PM

The Icom R-2 is a small wideband. It does well on all bands. No DX machine
but it will
pick up just about anything out there except SSB, CW, etc. signals.
"Richard" wrote in message
...
I had the Yupiteru MVT 7100 which is brilliant on VHF, it was OK on SW,

but
nothing brilliant.

Check out http://www.strongsignals.net/index.cgi for review of scanners

Richard
SO5GB

"starman" wrote in message
...
I'm thinking about getting a VHF/UHF pocket scanner which also has some
HF coverage. I realize these models don't have really good HF reception
but I think it would be nice to have that feature just for fun. I'd
appreciate hearing from any of you that own one or know something about
the various brands/models.

Thanks


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Howard December 1st 04 04:43 AM

On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:28:08 GMT, "David"
wrote:

The Icom R-2 is a small wideband. It does well on all bands. No DX machine
but it will
pick up just about anything out there except SSB, CW, etc. signals.
"Richard" wrote in message
...
I had the Yupiteru MVT 7100 which is brilliant on VHF, it was OK on SW,

but
nothing brilliant.

Check out http://www.strongsignals.net/index.cgi for review of scanners

Richard
SO5GB

"starman" wrote in message
...
I'm thinking about getting a VHF/UHF pocket scanner which also has some
HF coverage. I realize these models don't have really good HF reception
but I think it would be nice to have that feature just for fun. I'd
appreciate hearing from any of you that own one or know something about
the various brands/models.

Thanks


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The Icom R2 does receive shortwave ....... with a caveat or two: it
is a fixed and wide bandwidth, have never received shortwave with the
stock duck. That being said, if you want a scanner and ability to
listen to the major broadcasters this fits the bill; have used mine
mobile with a 19" whip antenna and have heard BBC, Radio Australia, DW
- when they broadcast to the US, Radio China Intnl & a few others. If
you have about 30' of wire wrap about 10-15 turns on the duck then
string out the rest and you're set. However, don't expect anything
more than the handful of major broadcasters.

I've heard that the Yaesu is much more sensitive on shortwave though;
both in this thread and in previous threads on this topic. I'd say if
it's a passing interest then go with the R5 (R2 replacement) due to
cost/benefit: if you plan on regular use and demand more reasonable
shortwave then look at the Yaesu and perhaps the Yupiteru.
Howard

m II December 1st 04 05:33 AM

Howard wrote:

I've heard that the Yaesu is much more sensitive on shortwave though;
both in this thread and in previous threads on this topic. I'd say if
it's a passing interest then go with the R5 (R2 replacement) due to
cost/benefit: if you plan on regular use and demand more reasonable
shortwave then look at the Yaesu and perhaps the Yupiteru.



Has Yupiteru installed a computer port on their high end scanners yet?
I preferred the Yupiteru to the 8200 for reception, but the 8200 had
the port. I wound up getting neither.



mike

Mark S. Holden December 1st 04 02:39 PM

starman wrote:

I'm thinking about getting a VHF/UHF pocket scanner which also has some
HF coverage. I realize these models don't have really good HF reception
but I think it would be nice to have that feature just for fun. I'd
appreciate hearing from any of you that own one or know something about
the various brands/models.

Thanks


It's about 4 years since I bought my Yupi, so I decided to take a look at what's available now.

If I was in the market, a radio I'd be taking a closer look at is the Yaesu VX-7R.

It's smaller than most of the others folks have mentioned, and it's a ham HT so it may have better selectivity on HF. It's priced about $10-20 higher than the VX-500 wideband receiver. It comes with a Lithium Ion battery.

Unfortunately, it didn't turn up when I did a quick look at the Strong Signals web site.

I wouldn't get one without checking it's reputation fairly carefully, as the Yaesu VR-5000 looked nice on phosphor, but got lackluster reviews for hf performance.

starman December 2nd 04 02:56 AM

"Mark S. Holden" wrote:

It's about 4 years since I bought my Yupi, so I decided to take a look at what's available now.

If I was in the market, a radio I'd be taking a closer look at is the Yaesu VX-7R.

It's smaller than most of the others folks have mentioned, and it's a ham HT so it may have better selectivity on HF. It's priced about $10-20 higher than the VX-500 wideband receiver. It comes with a Lithium Ion battery.

Unfortunately, it didn't turn up when I did a quick look at the Strong Signals web site.

I wouldn't get one without checking it's reputation fairly carefully, as the Yaesu VR-5000 looked nice on phosphor, but got lackluster reviews for hf performance.


Who are the US dealers for the Yupiter line of scanners? I haven't had
much luck with a Google search.

Thanks


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Mark S. Holden December 2nd 04 04:36 AM

starman wrote:

"Mark S. Holden" wrote:

It's about 4 years since I bought my Yupi, so I decided to take a look at what's available now.

If I was in the market, a radio I'd be taking a closer look at is the Yaesu VX-7R.

It's smaller than most of the others folks have mentioned, and it's a ham HT so it may have better selectivity on HF. It's priced about $10-20 higher than the VX-500 wideband receiver. It comes with a Lithium Ion battery.

Unfortunately, it didn't turn up when I did a quick look at the Strong Signals web site.

I wouldn't get one without checking it's reputation fairly carefully, as the Yaesu VR-5000 looked nice on phosphor, but got lackluster reviews for hf performance.



Who are the US dealers for the Yupiter line of scanners? I haven't had
much luck with a Google search.

Thanks


You'd have to import a Yupi, as they're "no gap" radios.

The two big dealers who export them here seem to be bandercom and
javiation.

You can find links he

http://www.strongsignals.net/access/content/dealers.html

I've dealt with both, thought Bandercom had better service, but
Javiation had some leather cases made up that were much nicer than the
plastic one Yupi offered.

A Canadian dealer also sold them, but their prices were considerably
higher because they figured you'd pay through the nose to listen to
analog cell phones.

You order on line, pay with plastic, and it arrives in 3-4 days.



starman December 3rd 04 05:26 AM

Thanks Mark

"Mark S. Holden" wrote:

starman wrote:

Who are the US dealers for the Yupiter line of scanners? I haven't had
much luck with a Google search.

Thanks


You'd have to import a Yupi, as they're "no gap" radios.

The two big dealers who export them here seem to be bandercom and
javiation.

You can find links he

http://www.strongsignals.net/access/content/dealers.html

I've dealt with both, thought Bandercom had better service, but
Javiation had some leather cases made up that were much nicer than the
plastic one Yupi offered.

A Canadian dealer also sold them, but their prices were considerably
higher because they figured you'd pay through the nose to listen to
analog cell phones.

You order on line, pay with plastic, and it arrives in 3-4 days.



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