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Ed Maikranz November 30th 04 06:57 PM

$400 to spend. What receiver should I buy?
 
Ok I need a new receiver. Just sold my Grundig 800 which was ok but
want something different.
I have about $400 what should I look for?
Ed

[email protected] November 30th 04 07:25 PM

www.universal-radio.com has a nice Ten-Tec radio for $328.95.And you
would have some money left over which you could send to me.
cuhulin


D. Martin November 30th 04 08:11 PM

When I clicked on your post I was going to suggest the "800" Grundig.
You had one, and got rid of it. Now, all I can think of is to buy it
back. Darren





http://community-2.webtv.net/DEMEM/L...mes/page2.html


Brian November 30th 04 10:56 PM


"Ed Maikranz" wrote in message
om...
Ok I need a new receiver. Just sold my Grundig 800 which was ok but
want something different.
I have about $400 what should I look for?
Ed


I picked up my Icom R75 at HRO for just over what you are looking to pay, I
think $425, and I've been very pleased with it. They run sales and offer
discounts every so often on it, you'll have to check with them. Aside from
that, you may want to look around on ebay for used Drake models; this is the
only one I see there presently:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...em=5735062 36
4&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW, but they come and go pretty regularly. Good luck.

-Brian



Lucky December 1st 04 02:01 AM


wrote in message
...
www.universal-radio.com has a nice Ten-Tec radio for $328.95.And you
would have some money left over which you could send to me.
cuhulin


Yes go to HRO or your local Icom dealer

They usually have deals on Saturdays. You have to write them and ask. I
paidd $425 for mine after rebate and deal. I think they can be had for $410
now after rebates and deal. If also comes with free DSP. Try finding that on
a brand new top notch reciever for $400....

Lucky



Michael St. Angelo December 1st 04 03:26 AM

The ICOM IC-703 Amateur Radio Transceiver.

The receiver is much better that shortwave radios in this price range and it
uses about 400ma in receive mode.

Ham Radio Outlet has them on sale for $379.

Good Luck,

Mike N2MS
"Ed Maikranz" wrote in message
om...
Ok I need a new receiver. Just sold my Grundig 800 which was ok but
want something different.
I have about $400 what should I look for?
Ed




Martyn December 1st 04 07:28 PM

On 30 Nov 2004 10:57:48 -0800, (Ed Maikranz)
wrote:

Ok I need a new receiver. Just sold my Grundig 800 which was ok but
want something different.
I have about $400 what should I look for?
Ed

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...47088 91&rd=1

Brian Hill December 1st 04 10:49 PM


"Martyn" wrote in message


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...47088 91&rd=1


Go hawk your crap elsewhere Martyn.
--
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Ed Maikranz December 1st 04 11:01 PM

Martyn wrote in message . ..
On 30 Nov 2004 10:57:48 -0800,
(Ed Maikranz)
wrote:

Ok I need a new receiver. Just sold my Grundig 800 which was ok but
want something different.
I have about $400 what should I look for?
Ed

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...47088 91&rd=1


What will I do with this?

tommyknocker December 2nd 04 03:56 AM

Ed Maikranz wrote:

Ok I need a new receiver. Just sold my Grundig 800 which was ok but
want something different.
I have about $400 what should I look for?
Ed


Look for a used tabletop. You can get a 1980s vintage tabletop with
digital readout and all the other goodies for a decent price. There's a
site where hams buy and sell equipment, I think it's qrz.com or qsz.com
or something like that, you'll probably get a much better deal on there
than you will on ebay. You could probably get a Yaesu or a Kenwood for
under $400, since those companies no longer make tabletop SW receivers
their products have sort of an orphan status, which means their prices
are lower.



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Lucky December 2nd 04 10:45 AM


"Ed Maikranz" wrote in message
om...
Martyn wrote in message
. ..
On 30 Nov 2004 10:57:48 -0800,
(Ed Maikranz)
wrote:

Ok I need a new receiver. Just sold my Grundig 800 which was ok but
want something different.
I have about $400 what should I look for?
Ed

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...47088 91&rd=1


What will I do with this?


I heard on the news that some guy was ripping people off on Ebay. It looks
like someone payed someone to pay him a visit. They picked up a couple
junkies in the area and paid them to club the guy up pretty bad. Reports are
even the police looked the other way on it.

I guess its not too safe to rip people off and have them know exactly where
the seller lives and what he does every day. Anything could happen....

Lucky



Invader3K December 2nd 04 01:29 PM

Where'd you hear about this? Any links to the news story? Sounds like
someone got what they deserved. Thanks.

I heard on the news that some guy was ripping people off on Ebay. It

looks
like someone payed someone to pay him a visit. They picked up a

couple
junkies in the area and paid them to club the guy up pretty bad.

Reports are
even the police looked the other way on it.

I guess its not too safe to rip people off and have them know exactly

where
the seller lives and what he does every day. Anything could

happen....

Lucky



[email protected] December 2nd 04 05:38 PM


http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/2787

Look here.
I think this is the one for me.
Ed





How about a review, anyone have the 703, how is the receiver?
This might be the best deal going.

Jim





On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:26:15 -0500, "Michael St. Angelo"
wrote:

The ICOM IC-703 Amateur Radio Transceiver.

The receiver is much better that shortwave radios in this price

range and it
uses about 400ma in receive mode.

Ham Radio Outlet has them on sale for $379.

Good Luck,

Mike N2MS
"Ed Maikranz" wrote in message
. com...
Ok I need a new receiver. Just sold my Grundig 800 which was ok

but
want something different.
I have about $400 what should I look for?
Ed




[email protected] December 2nd 04 05:43 PM

Well the 800 was ok, but I dont like the portatop style of radio, I
want to go back to a tabletop. I miss my old Drake R4B


Pilotbutteradio December 3rd 04 05:00 AM

QTH.com, QRZ.com. Look for classifieds on these pages. Patience will net
you a good deal on what you are looking for here.


--
Dave,
Kenwood TS-2000, Drake R-8, Grundig YB-400pe
Icom V-8000, Yaesu VX5R, Uniden
780xlt, R.S. Pro 95, R.S. Pro 2066
G.E. SR3

"tommyknocker" wrote in message
...
Ed Maikranz wrote:

Ok I need a new receiver. Just sold my Grundig 800 which was ok but
want something different.
I have about $400 what should I look for?
Ed


Look for a used tabletop. You can get a 1980s vintage tabletop with
digital readout and all the other goodies for a decent price. There's a
site where hams buy and sell equipment, I think it's qrz.com or qsz.com
or something like that, you'll probably get a much better deal on there
than you will on ebay. You could probably get a Yaesu or a Kenwood for
under $400, since those companies no longer make tabletop SW receivers
their products have sort of an orphan status, which means their prices
are lower.



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Mark S. Holden December 3rd 04 05:29 AM

RivaScoot wrote:
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:56:53 -0800, tommyknocker
wrote:


Ed Maikranz wrote:


Ok I need a new receiver. Just sold my Grundig 800 which was ok but
want something different.
I have about $400 what should I look for?
Ed


Look for a used tabletop. You can get a 1980s vintage tabletop with
digital readout and all the other goodies for a decent price. There's a
site where hams buy and sell equipment, I think it's qrz.com or qsz.com
or something like that, you'll probably get a much better deal on there
than you will on ebay. You could probably get a Yaesu or a Kenwood for
under $400, since those companies no longer make tabletop SW receivers
their products have sort of an orphan status, which means their prices
are lower.



Just curious about something.

Is a receiver that uses 20 or 25-year old technology still up to snuff
for shortwave today.

I'm not passing any value judgements, I'm simply curious.

Thanks,


RivaScoot


If it was a great radio 20 or 25 years ago, it's probably still a great
radio. It just won't have the latest bells and whistles.

Here's a link to a web site that gives a basic "value rating" to about
100 of the more popular radios that turn up on the used market.

http://www.dxing.com/rx/rxindex.htm




Mr Radio Man December 3rd 04 01:40 PM

On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 23:32:06 -0500, RivaScoot
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:56:53 -0800, tommyknocker
wrote:

Ed Maikranz wrote:

Ok I need a new receiver. Just sold my Grundig 800 which was ok but
want something different.
I have about $400 what should I look for?
Ed



Purchase a computer radio.

WinRadio 303i or e

www.winradio.com

You will love the versatility and performance.

Have fun. And the price is right in your range.

Mark S. Holden December 3rd 04 07:55 PM

Mr Radio Man wrote:

On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 23:32:06 -0500, RivaScoot
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:56:53 -0800, tommyknocker
wrote:

Ed Maikranz wrote:

Ok I need a new receiver. Just sold my Grundig 800 which was ok but
want something different.
I have about $400 what should I look for?
Ed


Purchase a computer radio.

WinRadio 303i or e

www.winradio.com

You will love the versatility and performance.

Have fun. And the price is right in your range.


The basic Winradio 303 (without the "professional" demodulator) runs $500 for the internal one, and $600 for the external one, so it's a little out of his target price range unless he can find one on sale.

Personally, I'd avoid the internal ones -

Ten or fifteen years from now, the radio itself should be working fine, but it may be tough to buy a new computer that'll accept a PCI card.

My guess is USB ports and serial ports will be available for quite a few years - even if it means buying an optional card.

A PC controlled radio that is in his price range is the tentec rx-320d.

Ed Maikranz December 3rd 04 11:22 PM

Sorry, I have to have switches and knobs!
Ed




"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message ...
Mr Radio Man wrote:

On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 23:32:06 -0500, RivaScoot
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:56:53 -0800, tommyknocker
wrote:

Ed Maikranz wrote:

Ok I need a new receiver. Just sold my Grundig 800 which was ok but
want something different.
I have about $400 what should I look for?
Ed


Purchase a computer radio.

WinRadio 303i or e

www.winradio.com

You will love the versatility and performance.

Have fun. And the price is right in your range.


The basic Winradio 303 (without the "professional" demodulator) runs $500 for the internal one, and $600 for the external one, so it's a little out of his target price range unless he can find one on sale.

Personally, I'd avoid the internal ones -

Ten or fifteen years from now, the radio itself should be working fine, but it may be tough to buy a new computer that'll accept a PCI card.

My guess is USB ports and serial ports will be available for quite a few years - even if it means buying an optional card.

A PC controlled radio that is in his price range is the tentec rx-320d.


matt weber December 4th 04 01:58 AM

On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 23:32:06 -0500, RivaScoot
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:56:53 -0800, tommyknocker
wrote:

Ed Maikranz wrote:

Ok I need a new receiver. Just sold my Grundig 800 which was ok but
want something different.
I have about $400 what should I look for?
Ed


Look for a used tabletop. You can get a 1980s vintage tabletop with
digital readout and all the other goodies for a decent price. There's a
site where hams buy and sell equipment, I think it's qrz.com or qsz.com
or something like that, you'll probably get a much better deal on there
than you will on ebay. You could probably get a Yaesu or a Kenwood for
under $400, since those companies no longer make tabletop SW receivers
their products have sort of an orphan status, which means their prices
are lower.


Just curious about something.

Is a receiver that uses 20 or 25-year old technology still up to snuff
for shortwave today.

Other than synchronous detection (and a product detector can do just
about everything a synchronous detector can do, but requires more
effort), , DSP and ease of use issues, the performance has been
limited by Atmospheric noise since probably the mid 1950's. Some of
the relatively old Tube radios like the Collins S-Line, A-line, Drake
2 series, 4 series, and some of the Hammerlunds like the HQ180, are
really at the performance limits for HF reception. They didn't have
digital readouts, but once they warmed up, most were rock solid, and
often had selectivity curves that stand up quite well even today. A 2B
with a 2BQ could manage a 100hz Bandwidth without much trouble. The
shape factor on the Collins Mechanical Filters (now called SAW
filters) are about as good as it gets.


I'm not passing any value judgements, I'm simply curious.

Thanks,


RivaScoot








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Mr Radio Man December 4th 04 03:45 AM

On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 14:55:17 -0500, "Mark S. Holden"
wrote:

Mr Radio Man wrote:

On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 23:32:06 -0500, RivaScoot
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:56:53 -0800, tommyknocker
wrote:

Ed Maikranz wrote:

Ok I need a new receiver. Just sold my Grundig 800 which was ok but
want something different.
I have about $400 what should I look for?
Ed


Purchase a computer radio.

WinRadio 303i or e

www.winradio.com

You will love the versatility and performance.

Have fun. And the price is right in your range.


The basic Winradio 303 (without the "professional" demodulator) runs $500 for the internal one, and $600 for the external one, so it's a little out of his target price range unless he can find one on sale.

Personally, I'd avoid the internal ones -



Yea - you stay away from the internal one. What a goof. Typical
liberal - critical of something you've never seen, owned or used.
And $500 - over the period of years he'll own the radio works out to
very small and worthwhile investment. Unless you're DeWayne (hey hey
hey) and buy and sell the same radio in the same week - every week.



Conan Ford December 4th 04 06:49 AM

Martyn wrote in
:

On 30 Nov 2004 10:57:48 -0800,
(Ed Maikranz)
wrote:

Ok I need a new receiver. Just sold my Grundig 800 which was ok but
want something different.
I have about $400 what should I look for?
Ed

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...74&item=573470
8891&rd=1


Not the real Martyn. The real Martyn uses DirectPC for his internet
connection, this guy uses Road Runner.

Don't feed the trolls.

Mark S. Holden December 4th 04 02:35 PM

Mr Radio Man wrote:
snip
The basic Winradio 303 (without the "professional" demodulator) runs $500 for the internal one, and $600 for the external one, so it's a little out of his target price range unless he can find one on sale.

Personally, I'd avoid the internal ones -




Yea - you stay away from the internal one. What a goof. Typical
liberal - critical of something you've never seen, owned or used.
And $500 - over the period of years he'll own the radio works out to
very small and worthwhile investment. Unless you're DeWayne (hey hey
hey) and buy and sell the same radio in the same week - every week.




Computer technology advances much faster than radio technology.

PCI slots will eventually be phased out in favor of something better.

If you own a 3 year old internal Winradio, odds are you'll have a tough
time buying a new computer to use it in because back then, they were all
for the ISA bus - and motherboard makers started leaving ISA slots out
of new designs about 4 years ago.

A good radio bought today will probably still be a good radio in 20 years.

But I wouldn't care to bet you'll be able to buy a new computer then
that'll include a PCI slot.

Whatever happens with PC architecture, odds are pretty good there will
be a way to hook up something that runs on a serial port.

I agree spending more can end up being a better bargain in the long run,
but the guy who asked the original question set a price range, and I
don't presume to know more than he does about his budget.

If I did, perhaps you would be justified in thinking I was a liberal.

As for me, if I was limited to $400, I think I'd go back to an R8.


Volker Tonn December 5th 04 12:42 AM



RivaScoot schrieb:



Speaking of these vintage receivers lacking digital readout, would it
be possible to add such a display or are there third-party displays
out there?


I have done this in the early 80's on a CB radio. Had a frequency
counter with a 455khz offset switch. I tapped the freq in the 455khz IF
stage of the single conversion radio. It's more complicated when you
have a multi conversion RX. On RX's with very low or no IF stage often
used in vintage RX's the tapping then may affect the signal. Modern high
grade frequency counters are programmable for any offset you want or you
will have to calculate all the time :-) It's not such a big deal.
I also have an older multiband HF-VHF-UHF-radio wich has real analog
tuning and a built-in real[tm] frequency counter -not a PLL-coupled
"should be on this frequency *display*". :-)


Mark S. Holden December 5th 04 01:37 AM

RivaScoot wrote:
snip

Speaking of these vintage receivers lacking digital readout, would it
be possible to add such a display or are there third-party displays
out there?

I don't want to do this, mind you, this is just another one of my
off-the-wall questions. ;)


RivaScoot



Yes. Here's a place that offers various kits:

http://www.aade.com/dfd.htm




Mr Radio Man December 5th 04 05:12 AM

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 16:32:53 -0500, RivaScoot
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 03:45:59 GMT, Mr Radio Man
wrote:

On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 14:55:17 -0500, "Mark S. Holden"
wrote:

Mr Radio Man wrote:

On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 23:32:06 -0500, RivaScoot
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:56:53 -0800, tommyknocker
wrote:

Ed Maikranz wrote:

Ok I need a new receiver. Just sold my Grundig 800 which was ok but
want something different.
I have about $400 what should I look for?
Ed


Purchase a computer radio.

WinRadio 303i or e

www.winradio.com

You will love the versatility and performance.

Have fun. And the price is right in your range.

The basic Winradio 303 (without the "professional" demodulator) runs $500 for the internal one, and $600 for the external one, so it's a little out of his target price range unless he can find one on sale.

Personally, I'd avoid the internal ones -



Yea - you stay away from the internal one. What a goof. Typical
liberal - critical of something you've never seen, owned or used.


[snip]


Your comment is a typical stereotype.

My brother-in-law is conservative, yet he isn't a Jesus freak.

Talk about breaking a stereotype.


RivaScoot






Uh - dude - it was sarcasm. You're pretty stupid.

Mr Radio Man December 5th 04 06:31 PM

On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 08:47:30 -0500, RivaScoot
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 05:12:41 GMT, Mr Radio Man
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 16:32:53 -0500, RivaScoot
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 03:45:59 GMT, Mr Radio Man
wrote:

On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 14:55:17 -0500, "Mark S. Holden"
wrote:

Mr Radio Man wrote:

On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 23:32:06 -0500, RivaScoot
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:56:53 -0800, tommyknocker
wrote:

Ed Maikranz wrote:

Ok I need a new receiver. Just sold my Grundig 800 which was ok but
want something different.
I have about $400 what should I look for?
Ed


Purchase a computer radio.

WinRadio 303i or e

www.winradio.com

You will love the versatility and performance.

Have fun. And the price is right in your range.

The basic Winradio 303 (without the "professional" demodulator) runs $500 for the internal one, and $600 for the external one, so it's a little out of his target price range unless he can find one on sale.

Personally, I'd avoid the internal ones -



Yea - you stay away from the internal one. What a goof. Typical
liberal - critical of something you've never seen, owned or used.

[snip]


Your comment is a typical stereotype.

My brother-in-law is conservative, yet he isn't a Jesus freak.

Talk about breaking a stereotype.


RivaScoot






Uh - dude - it was sarcasm. You're pretty stupid.



Only stupid people refer to other people as "dude".


RivaScoot





Go tote your portable dude. LMAO at the stupid 'tard.


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