RRS-WU ? New - Google Groups "Beta" Webpages and Posting Process
 

Rec.Radio.Shortwave - What's Up ?

Q#1. Is anyone using the New - Google Groups "Beta" Webpages
and the 'Posting' via Google ?

Q#2. If So... How do you like the New - Google Groups "Beta"
'Posting' process ?

~ RHF
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Well, it *is* a bit different. Something that we'll need to get use to.
This is my FIRST post on this beta system. Seems OK. It also appears to
be posting messages much quicker. Well, we'll see how it works. Let's
see how long before this REPLY shows up on the google webrowser

John

Wow!! Took ONE minute! That's lots better than the 5 to 9 hours! It's
rough playing with newsgroups when you're not at home and using other
equipment and can only post via the web. I like it!!

"johndobbs" ) writes:
Well, it *is* a bit different. Something that we'll need to get use to.
This is my FIRST post on this beta system. Seems OK. It also appears to
be posting messages much quicker. Well, we'll see how it works. Let's
see how long before this REPLY shows up on the google webrowser

John

Thee's never been a delay posting from google. You post there, and it
leaves their system almost immediately. If you read messages there, however,
it won't appear until the next update or the one after. The updates are
every 4 hours.

Now, I don't see any difference in how fast or frequently the archive
gets updated.

Micahel

Yeah....that's what I said...it would take HOURS before a posting would
post on the GOOGLE WEBROWSER. Now it takes MINUTES for a post to show
on the GOOGLE WEBROWSER. Before, the updates on the GOOGLE WEBROWSER
would sometimes take 5 to 9 hours. The 5 to 9 hours was also the
advisory that was posted on their site and I found that to be fairly
well true.

"johndobbs" wrote in message
ups.com...
Wow!! Took ONE minute! That's lots better than the 5 to 9 hours! It's
rough playing with newsgroups when you're not at home and using other
equipment and can only post via the web. I like it!!

When was there ever a 5-9 hr delay. I get posted within 10 seconds

Radio Flyer wrote:

"johndobbs" wrote in message
ups.com...
Wow!! Took ONE minute! That's lots better than the 5 to 9 hours! It's
rough playing with newsgroups when you're not at home and using other
equipment and can only post via the web. I like it!!

When was there ever a 5-9 hr delay. I get posted within 10 seconds

Before Google changed their system, if you posted a message through your ISP's news server, it could take 5-9 hours before it would show up in the Google Groups system.

So folks who read news groups through Google wouldn't see a message until it was several hours old.

I use Google Beta - it is dramatically faster, hundreds of times
faster, which is a great thing. One minor problem, maybe due to
traffic, is that on occasion, the new Google server indicates back to
the sender that an error has occurred, the message is undelivered - and
it gets delivered anyway. The downside is that the message gets posted
more than once *if you try again.* No big deal, except the poster
looks (and feels) like a dufus. Mea culpa, as it happens.
I can live with it.

Bruce Jensen

Thanks for that info regarding the minor problems and glitches. Good to
know and will keep it in mind. Yeah, it's a breath of fresh air for
those of us that don't have access when away from home to a
newsreader-type reader.

Thanks for that info regarding the minor problems and glitches. Good to
know and will keep it in mind. Yeah, it's a breath of fresh air for
those of us that don't have access when away from home to a
newsreader-type reader. (And I just got that ERROR code trying to post
this reply. This is my second attempt at posting this reply).

johndobbs wrote:

Thanks for that info regarding the minor problems and glitches. Good to
know and will keep it in mind. Yeah, it's a breath of fresh air for
those of us that don't have access when away from home to a
newsreader-type reader. (And I just got that ERROR code trying to post
this reply. This is my second attempt at posting this reply).

Rest assured, it showed up the first time!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

I made a post this morning about 7am or thereabouts and it never took.
Guess I need more training in the new system.....

I made a post this morning about 7am or thereabouts and it never took.
Guess I need more training in the new system.....

I made a post this morning about 7am or thereabouts and it never took.
Guess I need more training in the new system.....

I'm showing 4 hours old with no more recent updates. Don't seem to be
doing anything special here......

Yep, you're right! Both showed up over an hour after I tried posting
the one -- and then the same second one. Oh well...some glitches, but
still much better. I guess they'll iron the kinks out.

FO&A - NEW - GOOGLE NEWSGROUPS "FEATURES":

If you Click-On the [show options] Feature
you will see these Message Posting Options:
* Reply
* Reply to Author
* Forward
* Print {Print Complete Message}
* Individual Message {View Full Page}
* Show Original {Headers}
* Remove {aka: DELETE}
* Report Abuse {To Google Abuse Only}

NOTE: If you find that you have Double Posted or need to re-edit a
Message
you now have the 'option' to "Remove" [DELETE] one or both of the
Postings.

hth ~ RHF
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FO&A - NEW - GOOGLE NEWSGROUPS "FEATURES":

If you Click-On the [show options] Feature
you will see these Message Posting Options:
* Reply
* Reply to Author
* Forward
* Print {Print Complete Message}
* Individual Message {View Full Page}
* Show Original {Headers}
* Remove {aka: DELETE}
* Report Abuse {To Google Abuse Only}

NOTE: If you find that you have Double Posted or need to re-edit a
Message you now have the 'option' to "Remove" [DELETE] one or both
of the Postings; or Copy and the Message to a Wordprocessor/NotePad;
Edit the Message and Re-Post the Message.

TIP: "Click-On" the [Preview] Button to 'view' the Posting prior to
Clicking-On the [Post Message] Button.

hth ~ RHF
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Thanks! Yeah I just did on some of my previous posts. Wow...it's like I
was never here....

johndobbs wrote:

Thanks! Yeah I just did on some of my previous posts. Wow...it's like I
was never here....



The post cancellations hardly ever work. Most servers ignore the
cancel command. Too many people were sending out forged cancels.

I count seven of your postings preceding this one.


You may well get the message to disappear on your own machine, but it
most likely won't go away from usenet.




mike

On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 05:58:03 GMT, m II
wrote:

johndobbs wrote:

Thanks! Yeah I just did on some of my previous posts. Wow...it's like I
was never here....



The post cancellations hardly ever work. Most servers ignore the
cancel command. Too many people were sending out forged cancels.

I count seven of your postings preceding this one.


You may well get the message to disappear on your own machine, but it
most likely won't go away from usenet.




mike
I know that what mike says is true from direct experience. I have
tried to cancel his postings and it has not worked.

FWIW:

The first time (within minutes) I tried the "Remove" [DELETE] Option
it did NOT work.

The second time (a ouple of Hours) I tried the "Remove" [DELETE] Option

it did work.

Maybe It Just Takes Time . . .
beta testing, Beta Testing. BETA TESTING ! ~ RHF
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FO&A,

Which of the two 'new' "Screen Views" are you using to look at the
Newsgroup ?

* "View with Message Text" {and Side-Ads}
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...e?start=&gvc=1

* "Viewing Titles Only"
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/.../threads?gvc=2
~ RHF
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FO&A,

About This Group "Rec.Radio.Shortwave"
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...hortwave/about
- Activity Level: High
- Description: Shortwave Radio Enthusiasts.

* Archive = Monthly and Yearly "Message Posting"
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...hortwave/about
- Form: November 1989
- To: "Present" {December 2004}

* Last Month's Top Posters:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...hortwave/about
125
72
34
32
31
30
28
28
27
24

* All Time Top Posters:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...hortwave/about
4788
4479
2863
2636
2435
2375
2248
1973
1807
1782
may you learn something new each day ~ RHF
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That is so cool. You can go WAY back and see all the posts over the past 15
years.

Who made the first post? Someone named "Chuq Von Rospach"

Michael Black wrote:

And you could do it for some time. Dejanews started in 1996, and
when
google took over their remains, got that archive. Then google was
able
to incorporate some older archives, likely incomplete, going back to
the beginning of Usenet in 1979 or so.

This has nothing to do with the interface that they introduced this
week.

True...I use google quite a bit. I'm not too keen on the new format. I
prefer the
old. Why does someone always feel the need to bugger up something that
works just
fine as is....This new format is a PIA. MK

I like many of it's features, but it is way too buggy to run on it's
own. They should have run both systems in parallel. A couple of my
messages showed within minues of posting while others have not yet
shown after 7 hours.

johndobbs wrote:

Thanks! Yeah I just did on some of my previous posts. Wow...it's like I
was never here....



The post cancellations hardly ever work. Most servers ignore the
cancel command. Too many people were sending out forged cancels.

I count seven of your postings preceding this one.


You may well get the message to disappear on your own machine, but it
most likely won't go away from usenet.


"Let's try an 'Edit as New' (2004/12/09)

mike

BETA Testing is not going so good.

All my Message/Reply 'posting' do not seem to be appearing for the last
2-3 days.

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wondering . . . ~ RHF
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Yeah - and some out of order, and some with new original text being
suppressed as "quoted text."
Oh, well - takes time to fix the bugs.

Bruce Jensen

Yeah - and some out of order, and some with new original text being
suppressed as "quoted text."
Oh, well - takes time to fix the bugs.

Bruce Jensen

"bpnjensen" ) writes:
Yeah - and some out of order, and some with new original text being
suppressed as "quoted text."
Oh, well - takes time to fix the bugs.

Bruce Jensen


Don't forget the multiple postings.

People seem a tad clueless about this. Google has had this new
arrangement online for months, that's where the "beta" comes from.
That was the time and place to fix "bugs".

Michael

MB,

So that was the 'alpha' Beta [New]
and now do we have the 'beta' Beta [Improved] ?
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i be charlie and out ~ RHF
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