All I have to say is, when will they do something about
MY RIGHTS? I celebrate Christmas, but because it isn't
celebrated by everyone, we can no longer say Merry Christmas.

Not true, and everyone knows it.

Now it has to be Season's Greetings. It's not Christmas
vacation, it's Winter Break.

No, it's Christmas break. Anyone can call it that.

IMMIGRANTS, NOT AMERICANS, MUST ADAPT.
I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we
are offending some individual or their culture.

So, stop worrying.

Since the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, we have
experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority
of Americans. However, the dust from the attacks had
barely settled when the "politically correct! "
crowd began complaining about the possibility that our
patriotism was offending others.

So what? We've always had a politically correct crowd. How 'bout ignoring
them?

I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge
against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming
to America. Our population is almost entirely made up
of descendants of immigrants. However, there are a few
things that those who have recently come to our country,
and apparently some born here, need to understand.
This idea of America being a multicultural community
has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national
identity.

The US has always been multi-cultural. It is much, much more homogeneous
today than at any other time in its history. The various regions used to
have a much more distinct identity than they do today, and, it might
interest you to know, our Founding Fathers wanted this country to be very
distinct, self-governing, united states, not one country.

As Americans, we have our own culture, our
own society, our own language and our own lifestyle.

Apparently, this guy hasn't traveled much around the US. The above
statement is ridiculous.

This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles,
trials, and victories by millions of men and women who
have sought freedom.

I.e., by immigrants who came here and brought a little bit of their culture
with them. That process continues today, just as it has, continuously, for
the last three centuries.
.
We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic,
Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language.

This guy really needs to get out more. We speak just about every language
on the face of the Earth here.

Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society,
learn the language !
.
"In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not
some Christian, right wing, political slogan..
We adopted this motto because Christian men and women,
on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this
is clearly documented.

No, it's not. The Constitution clearly states that the government shall
neither establish nor prohibit any religion. For sych a true-blue
"patriot", you'd think this guy would have read the Constitution.

It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls
of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you
consider another part of the world as your new home,
because God is part of our culture.

Whose God?

If Stars and Stripes offend you, or you don't like
Uncle Sam, then you should seriously consider a move
to another part of this planet. We are happy with our
culture and have no desire to change,

I am happy with my culture, and I thank God that it isn't this guy's
culture.

and we really
don't care how you did things where you came from.

Yeah, we do! This is a big, interesting country, in a big, interesting
world, and everyone has their little part to play.

This is OUR COUNTRY, our land, and our lifestyle.
Our First Amendment gives every citizen the right to
express his opinion and we will allow you every
opportunity to do so!

"We" will, huh? Oh, thanks.

But once you are done complaining,
whining, and griping about our flag, our pledge,
our national motto, or our way of life,

Your way of life, or mine? Or whose?

I highly
encourage you take advantage of one other great
American freedom, THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.
.
It is Time for America to Speak up
If you agree -- pass this along;
if you don't agree -- You have the right to leave too !!

Who is this bozo, anyway? Not a true American.

BR - Speaking of 'bozos'

Or as they say in Brazil "BaaZoo"
[ Memories of the 'Maratona Do Rio' ]
Hey - I ran That !

BR - Keep Running ) ~ RHF
[ Be Careful Not To "Lap" Yourself ;-]
..
..

BR - Speaking of 'bozos'

Yessuh. Here I am.

Or as they say in Brazil "BaaZoo"
[ Memories of the 'Maratona Do Rio' ]
Hey - I ran That !

BR - Keep Running ) ~ RHF
[ Be Careful Not To "Lap" Yourself ;-]

Honestly, RHF, do you believe that we cannot say "Merry Christmas" any more?
Or most of the rest of that ornery griping? For that matter, do you really
believe it was written by a vet?

BR,

Did I say that it was 'written' by a 'vet' ? NO [.]

Here are the "Words" that I 'wrote':
..
[ Sent to me From] {SU}
Received from an Old Friend from Work who was:
- US Air Force Retired
- US Civil Service Retired
- Combined 45 Years + Service to his Country
..
[His 'claimed' Source]
Story in Tampa Newspaper

As far as me saying "Merry Christmas"

merry christmas, Merry Christmas. MERRY CHRISTMAS !
- and a -
happy new year, Happy New Year. HAPPY NEW YEAR !
- to -
one and all, One And All. ONE AND ALL !
- remember -
jesus is the reason - for the season,
Jesus Is The Reason - For The Season.
JESUS IS THE REASON - FOR THE SEASON !

..
everyday is a blessing from god - rejoice in it - amen ~ RHF
..
..

merry christmas, Merry Christmas. MERRY CHRISTMAS !
- and a -
happy new year, Happy New Year. HAPPY NEW YEAR !
- to -
one and all, One And All. ONE AND ALL !

Thanks, R, and the same to you.

RHF or somebody else posted this screed
in the past. It is a collection of incorrect,
whiny, self-pitying claptrap. Pretending to
stand up for American principles, the author
tells anyone who doesn't share HIS personal
beliefs to leave, which is about as un-American
as you can get. America served as a haven
for dissenters and religious minorities from the
beginning and was founded on determinedly secular
principles, and let's hope it doesn't succumb any
further than it already has to the kind of narrow
sectarian absolutism reflected in this kind of
article.

Larry Ozarow wrote:

RHF or somebody else posted this screed
in the past. It is a collection of incorrect,
whiny, self-pitying claptrap. Pretending to
stand up for American principles, the author
tells anyone who doesn't share HIS personal
beliefs to leave, which is about as un-American
as you can get. America served as a haven
for dissenters and religious minorities from the
beginning and was founded on determinedly secular
principles, and let's hope it doesn't succumb any
further than it already has to the kind of narrow
sectarian absolutism reflected in this kind of
article.

I can understand what you are saying, however, are we to be a haven for those
who are intent upon destroying our very way of life?

Something to think about at any rate.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

dxAce wrote:

Larry Ozarow wrote:


RHF or somebody else posted this screed
in the past. It is a collection of incorrect,
whiny, self-pitying claptrap. Pretending to
stand up for American principles, the author
tells anyone who doesn't share HIS personal
beliefs to leave, which is about as un-American
as you can get. America served as a haven
for dissenters and religious minorities from the
beginning and was founded on determinedly secular
principles, and let's hope it doesn't succumb any
further than it already has to the kind of narrow
sectarian absolutism reflected in this kind of
article.


I can understand what you are saying, however, are we to be a haven for those
who are intent upon destroying our very way of life?

Something to think about at any rate.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Steve,

I don't think that wishing people "Merry Christmas" rather
than "Season's Greetings," or maintaining the absurd fiction
that somehow the ten commandments are central to our form of
government are important aspects of our way of life. The overwhelming
majority of immigrants, Christian or non-Christian, buy into
all the same things most native-born Americans believe in. They
work, they vote, they send their kids to school, and they pay
taxes.

The OP is clearly offended by the very existence of variant
religious beliefs and cultures. They're not being rammed down
his throat, and there's nothing wrong with people who don't share
his beliefs not wanting them rammed down their throats either.
The overwhelming majority of Americans celebrate Christmas and are
free to continue to do so. It's perfectly all right and well within
the American tradition that people be free to not celebrate it,
and furthermore not pretend to celebrate it. Our "official" culture
can afford to be secular and all-inclusive and still allow and even
encourage all groups to believe what they want.

It's interesting that with all the attacks and threats against
Christianity and Americanism certain people think they see, Americans
are the most religious people in the western world, and of course
almost all of those religious people are Christians.

Larry Ozarow wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Larry Ozarow wrote:


RHF or somebody else posted this screed
in the past. It is a collection of incorrect,
whiny, self-pitying claptrap. Pretending to
stand up for American principles, the author
tells anyone who doesn't share HIS personal
beliefs to leave, which is about as un-American
as you can get. America served as a haven
for dissenters and religious minorities from the
beginning and was founded on determinedly secular
principles, and let's hope it doesn't succumb any
further than it already has to the kind of narrow
sectarian absolutism reflected in this kind of
article.


I can understand what you are saying, however, are we to be a haven for those
who are intent upon destroying our very way of life?

Something to think about at any rate.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Steve,

I don't think that wishing people "Merry Christmas" rather
than "Season's Greetings," or maintaining the absurd fiction
that somehow the ten commandments are central to our form of
government are important aspects of our way of life. The overwhelming
majority of immigrants, Christian or non-Christian, buy into
all the same things most native-born Americans believe in. They
work, they vote, they send their kids to school, and they pay
taxes.

The OP is clearly offended by the very existence of variant
religious beliefs and cultures. They're not being rammed down
his throat, and there's nothing wrong with people who don't share
his beliefs not wanting them rammed down their throats either.
The overwhelming majority of Americans celebrate Christmas and are
free to continue to do so. It's perfectly all right and well within
the American tradition that people be free to not celebrate it,
and furthermore not pretend to celebrate it. Our "official" culture
can afford to be secular and all-inclusive and still allow and even
encourage all groups to believe what they want.

It's interesting that with all the attacks and threats against
Christianity and Americanism certain people think they see, Americans
are the most religious people in the western world, and of course
almost all of those religious people are Christians.

I personally don't celebrate any of the regular holidays this time of year, but I
have no problem wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Hannukah, or a Happy
Kwanza. At times if I don't know what one might celebrate I'll wish them Happy
Holidays!

Me? I'm looking forward to going out at the solstice and begging the sun to come
back! But that's just the way it is here.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

Sometimes our like-mindedness is downright eerie.

The reason religion thrives in the USA is because the government is
not involved.

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:06:32 -0500, dxAce wrote:



Larry Ozarow wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Larry Ozarow wrote:


RHF or somebody else posted this screed
in the past. It is a collection of incorrect,
whiny, self-pitying claptrap. Pretending to
stand up for American principles, the author
tells anyone who doesn't share HIS personal
beliefs to leave, which is about as un-American
as you can get. America served as a haven
for dissenters and religious minorities from the
beginning and was founded on determinedly secular
principles, and let's hope it doesn't succumb any
further than it already has to the kind of narrow
sectarian absolutism reflected in this kind of
article.


I can understand what you are saying, however, are we to be a haven for those
who are intent upon destroying our very way of life?

Something to think about at any rate.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Steve,

I don't think that wishing people "Merry Christmas" rather
than "Season's Greetings," or maintaining the absurd fiction
that somehow the ten commandments are central to our form of
government are important aspects of our way of life. The overwhelming
majority of immigrants, Christian or non-Christian, buy into
all the same things most native-born Americans believe in. They
work, they vote, they send their kids to school, and they pay
taxes.

The OP is clearly offended by the very existence of variant
religious beliefs and cultures. They're not being rammed down
his throat, and there's nothing wrong with people who don't share
his beliefs not wanting them rammed down their throats either.
The overwhelming majority of Americans celebrate Christmas and are
free to continue to do so. It's perfectly all right and well within
the American tradition that people be free to not celebrate it,
and furthermore not pretend to celebrate it. Our "official" culture
can afford to be secular and all-inclusive and still allow and even
encourage all groups to believe what they want.

It's interesting that with all the attacks and threats against
Christianity and Americanism certain people think they see, Americans
are the most religious people in the western world, and of course
almost all of those religious people are Christians.

I personally don't celebrate any of the regular holidays this time of year, but I
have no problem wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Hannukah, or a Happy
Kwanza. At times if I don't know what one might celebrate I'll wish them Happy
Holidays!

Me? I'm looking forward to going out at the solstice and begging the sun to come
back! But that's just the way it is here.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm