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GE Superadio I vs, Grundig YB400
I have a Grundig YB400 for BCB and shortwave listening while away from
home. I have seen claims that the Superadio I is an extraordinary BCB receiver. Is the difference between the performance of the YB400 and the Superadio I significant enough to justify lugging a second radio? Ken KC2JDY Ken (to reply via email remove "zz" from address) |
Ken ) writes: I have a Grundig YB400 for BCB and shortwave listening while away from home. I have seen claims that the Superadio I is an extraordinary BCB receiver. Is the difference between the performance of the YB400 and the Superadio I significant enough to justify lugging a second radio? Ken KC2JDY I think the suggestion about the Superradio is due to many not having experience with anything better, and there's then an almost knee-jerk reaction everytime someone asks "what's a good AM/FM broadcast radio". The Superradio is a fairly traditional single conversion receiver with a 455KHz IF for AM. I gather they don't even use a ceramic filter in the AM IF. It can't be all that great. The big thing is that it has a decent speaker for a portable, and a longer loopstick which may or may not help reception. It's analog tuned. The YB400 is double conversion, has digital tuning, and the circuitry intended for good shortwave reception is used in the AM broadcast band. It has two IF bandwidths, and it's pretty likely that the ceramic filters used will provide better skirt selectivity for AM broadcast band reception. In other words, if you have the better receiver the Superradio likely won't add anything. And if you have nothing, the reason the Superradio gets mentioned is because it's not as expensive as something better, and many stop at the SUperradio. I am tempted by the YB400 this week, immediately for the AM broadcast band coverage. I could make use of the better selectivity. I use a Delco digitally tuned car radio as my bedside radio, and it is a pretty decent radio. If it used a 455KHz IF instead of a 450KHz IF, I'd pull a ceramic filter from a CB set to get better selectivity, so I could once again receive WBZ (I lost being able to receive it some years back when a local 1040KHz station started up; the selectivity on the Delco is good, but not good enough for this case). Michael |
There were 3 analog versions and one digital. The SRIII is an
excellent receiver for the money and the sound is quite full. Most discussions about what makes a good receiver focus on selectivity and sensitivity. The ability to clearly hear what is being said is at least as important when id'ing a station and the SRIII shines in this area. But because they only cost $40.00 expect that the dial will be inaccurate, controls to not feel like a Sony 7600RG, etc. Here is a link to a lot of information on the series, modifications, etc. Best of luck. I'm going to get one to use around the home, while gardening, etc. Here is a link with some detailed reviews, lists of mods., etc. |
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Never used a Superradio, have you?
"Michael Black" wrote in message ... I think the suggestion about the Superradio is due to many not having experience with anything better, and there's then an almost knee-jerk reaction everytime someone asks "what's a good AM/FM broadcast radio". The Superradio is a fairly traditional single conversion receiver with a 455KHz IF for AM. I gather they don't even use a ceramic filter in the AM IF. It can't be all that great. The big thing is that it has a decent speaker for a portable, and a longer loopstick which may or may not help reception. It's analog tuned. The YB400 is double conversion, has digital tuning, and the circuitry intended for good shortwave reception is used in the AM broadcast band. It has two IF bandwidths, and it's pretty likely that the ceramic filters used will provide better skirt selectivity for AM broadcast band reception. In other words, if you have the better receiver the Superradio likely won't add anything. And if you have nothing, the reason the Superradio gets mentioned is because it's not as expensive as something better, and many stop at the SUperradio. I am tempted by the YB400 this week, immediately for the AM broadcast band coverage. I could make use of the better selectivity. I use a Delco digitally tuned car radio as my bedside radio, and it is a pretty decent radio. If it used a 455KHz IF instead of a 450KHz IF, I'd pull a ceramic filter from a CB set to get better selectivity, so I could once again receive WBZ (I lost being able to receive it some years back when a local 1040KHz station started up; the selectivity on the Delco is good, but not good enough for this case). Michael |
Michael Black wrote: I think the suggestion about the Superradio is due to many not having experience with anything better, and there's then an almost knee-jerk reaction everytime someone asks "what's a good AM/FM broadcast radio". The Superradio is a fairly traditional single conversion receiver with a 455KHz IF for AM. I gather they don't even use a ceramic filter in the AM IF. It can't be all that great. The big thing is that it has a decent speaker for a portable, and a longer loopstick which may or may not help reception. It's analog tuned. The YB400 is double conversion, has digital tuning, and the circuitry intended for good shortwave reception is used in the AM broadcast band. It has two IF bandwidths, and it's pretty likely that the ceramic filters used will provide better skirt selectivity for AM broadcast band reception. The Superadio has two bandwidths and pretty good adj channel selectivity using the narrow setting. Also, I can't say for sure, but the YB400 probably doesn't use dual conversion for BCB. It looked like the OP actually uses his portables as portables, so that's the main problem he'd have with the Superadio (other than the dial calibration, of course), since it is a big sucker. I have never used a YB400, but I do have experience with a number of "real" MW radios. The only Chinese portable I have is a RS DX399, and the Superadio is much better at MW, both in terms of weak signal readability and adj channel selectivity. Also a single set of batteries lasts eons in the Superadio. |
KEN [KC2JDY],
READ - AM/MW DXing = Your Radio + Lazy Susan + Select-A-Tenna http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...a/message/1787 As a stand-a-lone Radio for AM Broadcast Program Listening the GE Superadios are the low cost performance favorate by many casual AM/MW DXers. + Use a Select-A-Tenna and a Lazy Susan with the GE Superadios and you can do some reasonable AM/MW DXing for about $100-$150. + Plug a Long Wire (Random Wire)Antenna into the 1/8" Jack on the Select-A-Tenna Model 541-M and you can generally 'improve' the listenable range of your AM/MW DXing both day and night. The GE Superadio III with the Dual 6" and 2" speakers provides 'quality' Mono-Aural Sound for FM Music Program Listeners. = Nice Sound with Long Term Listenability :o) GE-SUPERADIO-III = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SuperadioIII/ GE-SUPERADIOS = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/longrange/ READ - GE Superadios for Dummies http://tinyurl.com/4fxdu READ - Identifying the GE Superadio Models http://tinyurl.com/4pvgz The GE Superadios do not cover the Shortwave Bands and for that the Grundig Yacht Boy 400 PE does a good job as a 'portable' AM/FM/Shortwave Radio. - The Grundig Yacht Boy 400 PE as a stand-a-lone radio; does not perform as well as the GE Superadios for AM/MW DXing. - The Grundig Yacht Boy 400 PE does not have the long term Listenability of the GE Superadios. FWIW - Besides the Grundig Yacht Boy 400 PE http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Grundig-Yacht-Boy-Radios/ consider these 'portable' AM/FM/Shortwave Radios as Travel Radios for Shortwave Listening: - Sony ICF-SW7600GR {AM-SYNC} http://groups.yahoo.com/group/7600GR/ - Sangean ATS-909 / RadioShack DX398 {SSB} http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DX398/ If you are looking for a One-Radio 'compromise' then consider the Grundig S350 "Super Radio" Tecsun BCL-2000 for both AM/MW casual DXing and Shortwave Program Listening. GRUNDIG-S350 = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Grundig-S350/ .. iane ~ RHF .. .. |
Good grief -- Apples to Oranges
The GE Super Radio is $40 and the Grundig is $100 plus I have the GE and it is a superb AM radio -- Caveat Lecter "RHF" wrote in message ups.com... KEN [KC2JDY], READ - AM/MW DXing = Your Radio + Lazy Susan + Select-A-Tenna http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...a/message/1787 As a stand-a-lone Radio for AM Broadcast Program Listening the GE Superadios are the low cost performance favorate by many casual AM/MW DXers. + Use a Select-A-Tenna and a Lazy Susan with the GE Superadios and you can do some reasonable AM/MW DXing for about $100-$150. + Plug a Long Wire (Random Wire)Antenna into the 1/8" Jack on the Select-A-Tenna Model 541-M and you can generally 'improve' the listenable range of your AM/MW DXing both day and night. The GE Superadio III with the Dual 6" and 2" speakers provides 'quality' Mono-Aural Sound for FM Music Program Listeners. = Nice Sound with Long Term Listenability :o) GE-SUPERADIO-III = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SuperadioIII/ GE-SUPERADIOS = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/longrange/ READ - GE Superadios for Dummies http://tinyurl.com/4fxdu READ - Identifying the GE Superadio Models http://tinyurl.com/4pvgz The GE Superadios do not cover the Shortwave Bands and for that the Grundig Yacht Boy 400 PE does a good job as a 'portable' AM/FM/Shortwave Radio. - The Grundig Yacht Boy 400 PE as a stand-a-lone radio; does not perform as well as the GE Superadios for AM/MW DXing. - The Grundig Yacht Boy 400 PE does not have the long term Listenability of the GE Superadios. FWIW - Besides the Grundig Yacht Boy 400 PE http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Grundig-Yacht-Boy-Radios/ consider these 'portable' AM/FM/Shortwave Radios as Travel Radios for Shortwave Listening: - Sony ICF-SW7600GR {AM-SYNC} http://groups.yahoo.com/group/7600GR/ - Sangean ATS-909 / RadioShack DX398 {SSB} http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DX398/ If you are looking for a One-Radio 'compromise' then consider the Grundig S350 "Super Radio" Tecsun BCL-2000 for both AM/MW casual DXing and Shortwave Program Listening. GRUNDIG-S350 = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Grundig-S350/ . iane ~ RHF . . |
Neither one of them.By the way,them plastic grundig's are made in
chinkland nowdays and they aren't worth a crap! cuhulin |
CULULIN,
The what have you to say about the "COUNTRY" of Manufacture of the new GE Superadio IIIs ? And REMEMBER the "GE Radio" Band Name is now owned by a 'French' Company THOMSON {GE} Consumer Electronics. http://thomson.net/EN/home http://www.home-electronics.net/ http://www.home-electronics.net/Home...5-SNGE,00.html Also "RCA" Radios are now a THOMSON {RCA} Consumer Electronics Brand Name. RCA = http://www.rca.com/ No matter what the Brand Name most are 'made' in China; and if not then in Korea, Singapore, Thailand, Taiwan, Philippines, and last but not least Japan. [ Some How I Don't 'see' the USofA on the List. ] .. something to think about ~ RHF .. .. |
KEN [KC2JDY], READ - AM/MW DXing = Your Radio + Lazy Susan + Select-A-Tenna http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...a/message/1787 As a stand-a-lone Radio for AM Broadcast Program Listening the GE Superadios are the low cost performance favorate by many casual AM/MW DXers. + Use a Select-A-Tenna and a Lazy Susan with the GE Superadios and you can do some reasonable AM/MW DXing for about $100-$150. + Plug a Long Wire (Random Wire)Antenna into the 1/8" Jack on the Select-A-Tenna Model 541-M and you can generally 'improve' the listenable range of your AM/MW DXing both day and night. Greetings! I picked up a GE Super Radio II at the local thrift store for $2. I was shocked to find that it worked. I definetly looks used, but is missing nothing. I hear lots of stations all around most freqs and can usually pull them out. I have not tried an external antenna yet, but I think I will put up a loop. Would 14 ga. wire be better, or 300 ohm? Thanks for your input! Jon. |
I don't own a GE Superadio.To what do I have to say about frogland,you
ask? Them frogs are a bunch of Cowards,is what I say. cuhulin |
I already knew all of that.If I was rich,I would buy meself a
Watkins-Johnson radio or Ten-Tec or Drake R8B radio.I do own some shortwave radios.One of them is a big Telefunken floor model shortwave radio with AM/FM and it has a phonograph built in the top of it.I also own another German shortwave radio.It is a large table model shortwave radio with AM/FM and to tell y'all the truth,I don't remember if it is a Grundig or a Blaupunk radio.Why? Because I bought it and some other radios I own at one of the local Goodwill thrift stores here and that radio I have it stored in one of my junk rooms here and I have so much junk (it isn't all junk) stored around that radio and I haven't seen that radio in years and I have forgotten what the brand name of that radio is.I also own an old Hallicrafters S-38 EB shortwave table model radio and I own a Panasonic table model shortwave radio I bought new at a local store back in the 1980's and I own some other off the wall brand name shortwave radios too.I have been a collector of old things all my life.I own a 1914 Ford T model car I bought from a guy in Sioux Falls,South Dakota in November of 1971,he and his wife were moving to Minneapolis and they couldn't take the car with them.I paid $1,800.00 for my car.I also own a 1942 Willys World War Two Jeep and I own a 1948 Willys Civilian Jeep.Both Jeeps need a ground up restoration.OK,so I own some old junk but it isn't all junk,I own many other old things too. cuhulin |
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RHF wrote: CULULIN, The what have you to say about the "COUNTRY" of Manufacture of the new GE Superadio IIIs ? And REMEMBER the "GE Radio" Band Name is now owned by a 'French' Company THOMSON {GE} Consumer Electronics. Also "RCA" Radios are now a THOMSON {RCA} Consumer Electronics Brand Name. RCA = http://www.rca.com/ Check again, on a recent TV news segment about China, they said that the Chinese electronics manfacturer TCL (?) bought Thomson Consumer Electronics a few months ago. Mark Zenier Washington State resident |
MZ,
.. You are right :o) .. TCL and Thomson - Good Progress Towards the Creation of TCL-Thomson Electronics http://www.thomson.net/EN/Home/Press...REN040129b.htm - Signature of the Combination Agreement, in presence of the President of the PRC - Finalisation of all other necessary definitive agreements in line with end Q1 initial target - TCL-Thomson Electronics expected to be fully operational as planned by July 1, 2004 .. TCL, Thomson alliance to lead global TV production ( 2003-11-04 21:08) China People's Daily (Xinhua) PRC http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/...ent_278455.htm .. Thomson and TCL plan merger http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/...ent_277945.htm The Chinese group will own 67 per cent of the venture, to be called TCL-Thomson, with the remainder held by the French group. .. more than you wanted to know ~ RHF .. .. |
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