"dxAce" wrote in message
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Some may find this to be of interest:

Icom radios will cost more now, and their still junk.
Look inside an Icom and it looks like the inside of
a Chinese-made $39.95 Radio Shack DVD player.

...and let's not forget the great Icom fiasco of some years ago
(1980's) when Icom deliberately made microprocessor controlled radios
for both ham and swl which had their internal CPU operating system
written into volatile DRAM as a cost cutting measure. (!)

Your radio's lithium cell aged and went bad or
got bumped lose in the mobile and your radio
then promptly D I E D. You could have it "repaired"
of course by sending it off to Icom with a check
for $65.00 to have it "re-programmed".

In ham radio circles this became know as
the "Icom Time Bomb Rig", and their sales of
course promptly dropped thru the floor faster than
a lead-filled baloon falling into a interstellar black hole.

They may have fixed this gaffe long ago, but Icom
still builds radios much like Pakesheesh Patel's family,
what owns the Subway Sandwich shop, builds their
hoagies....slapped together with no condiments (extra
charge, much like Icom accessories) and dry.

Buy a Yaesu instead.
A much more advanced radio all around.

"Toidie Loidie" wrote:


"dxAce" wrote in message
...
Some may find this to be of interest:

Icom radios will cost more now, and their still junk.
Look inside an Icom and it looks like the inside of
a Chinese-made $39.95 Radio Shack DVD player.

Funny... if I look inside my '8500 I see a cast aluminum,
compartmentalized, shielded chassis.

Much as I like my Yaesu gear, their last great receiver was the
FRG-100.

But, whatever. If you want a religious war, find someone else. I
just like gear that works.

--
Eric F. Richards,
"Nature abhors a vacuum tube." -- J. R. Pierce, Bell Labs, c. 1940

Eric F. Richards wrote:

Funny... if I look inside my '8500 I see a cast aluminum,
compartmentalized, shielded chassis.

Much as I like my Yaesu gear, their last great receiver was the
FRG-100.


I wanted one. They were probably way underrated. I'd like to find a
good comparison between it, FRG 7 and FRG 9600 (Digital displays
notwithstanding). There was some old stock last year at one of hte
Canadian dealers, but I don't know if they still have any. Price was
around 8 to 900 dollars.


mike

m II wrote:

Eric F. Richards wrote:

Funny... if I look inside my '8500 I see a cast aluminum,
compartmentalized, shielded chassis.

Much as I like my Yaesu gear, their last great receiver was the
FRG-100.


I wanted one. They were probably way underrated. I'd like to find a
good comparison between it, FRG 7 and FRG 9600

I had a '-100 and a '-7. Both nice radios. The '100 suffered from
chugging and other synthesizer noise, but behaved well, otherwise. It
was underrated, and the need for a keypad was overstated -- it had a
number of aids to allow you to get to any arbitrary place on the
spectrum in a hurry without direct frequency entry.

The '7 was built like a tank. Just a different generation of design
and construction standards. A fun radio to operate, but in these days
of 1 Hz resolution probably not considered "practical." I would have
killed for one back in its day, though.

--
Eric F. Richards,
"Nature abhors a vacuum tube." -- J. R. Pierce, Bell Labs, c. 1940

Toidie Loidie wrote:


"dxAce" wrote in message
...
Some may find this to be of interest:

Icom radios will cost more now, and their still junk.
Look inside an Icom and it looks like the inside of
a Chinese-made $39.95 Radio Shack DVD player.

...and let's not forget the great Icom fiasco of some years ago
(1980's) when Icom deliberately made microprocessor controlled radios
for both ham and swl which had their internal CPU operating system
written into volatile DRAM as a cost cutting measure. (!)

Your radio's lithium cell aged and went bad or
got bumped lose in the mobile and your radio
then promptly D I E D. You could have it "repaired"
of course by sending it off to Icom with a check
for $65.00 to have it "re-programmed".

In ham radio circles this became know as
the "Icom Time Bomb Rig", and their sales of
course promptly dropped thru the floor faster than
a lead-filled baloon falling into a interstellar black hole.

They may have fixed this gaffe long ago, but Icom
still builds radios much like Pakesheesh Patel's family,
what owns the Subway Sandwich shop, builds their
hoagies....slapped together with no condiments (extra
charge, much like Icom accessories) and dry.

Buy a Yaesu instead.
A much more advanced radio all around.

I have an FRG-8800, and my only complaint is that power surges or
fluctuations (such as can happen during a power outage) can scramble the
microprocessors. I remedy this by keeping it plugged into a surge
protector that I turn off when the radio is not in use. Other than that,
it is wonderful for 20 year old technology.

I own and use a model PW 8R15 Brickwall surge filter.
www.brickwall.com www.pricewheeler.com They are made in good old
U.S.A.and they carry a lifetime gurrantee.
cuhulin

The Yaesu's didn't even have RF gain. Pathetic!

Sue the hell out of them.Maybe y'all have seen them ads on tv about them
miserable kevin LAGGARD mizuhara msntv2 new set top boxes.Them boxes
aren't worth a S..T!!!! I was knocking them miserable kevin LAGGARD
(that Miserable piece of S..T!!! kevin mizuhara,,Mserable marketing
mananger S.O.B.at msntv SUCKS!!!!!! *******!!! had the audacity to call
us webbys,LAGGARDS) msntv2 boxes before they ever hit the
marketlace.There are some NG rooms behind msntv's firewall and I can
tell y'all plenty of folks who bought them stupid ass kevin Miserable
LAGGARD mizuhara *******!!! msntv2 boxes are more than upset with them
boxes! NO self respecting person would Ever waste their money on them
boxes!!!
cuhulin

"running dogg" wrote
I have an FRG-8800, and my only complaint is that power surges or
fluctuations (such as can happen during a power outage) can scramble the
microprocessors. I remedy this by keeping it plugged into a surge
protector that I turn off when the radio is not in use. Other than that,
it is wonderful for 20 year old technology.


You ought to think about plugging it into a small UPS then, as surge
protection normally clamps at 330v and provide no power conditioning
(voltage regulation) whatsoever.

Jack

In article Uaezd.23368$7p.18435@lakeread02, says...

"running dogg" wrote
I have an FRG-8800, and my only complaint is that power surges or
fluctuations (such as can happen during a power outage) can scramble the
microprocessors. I remedy this by keeping it plugged into a surge
protector that I turn off when the radio is not in use. Other than that,
it is wonderful for 20 year old technology.


You ought to think about plugging it into a small UPS then, as surge
protection normally clamps at 330v and provide no power conditioning
(voltage regulation) whatsoever.

Jack




My 8800 used to "wig out" just by touching it after walking across the
room. It was very touchy, but other than that, it worked pretty well. It
sure did need a better narrow filter though..

BDK