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pickle December 26th 04 06:02 PM

No Degen 1103 yet
 
Bummer. The wife ordered me a Degen 1103 for Christmas. She ordered
it from Liypn through eBay. He must have had a lot of orders
because he's out and won't get more for a couple of weeks or so.
Thought you weren't supposed to list items on eBay unless you had the
item on hand.

Bob Niland December 27th 04 06:46 PM

pickle wrote:

Bummer. The wife ordered me a whatever for Christmas.
She ordered it from userID in China through eBay.


Where are you located? I wonder what the shipping,
customs, brokerage & holding fees (if any) would have
been in you are in another country.

He must have had a lot of orders because he's out ...


Was he ever "in"? It's coin flip as to whether this
is a stocking seller or a drop-shipping seller.

Unless they can't count, stocking sellers have no
excuse for running more listings than they have units.

Thought you weren't supposed to list items on eBay
unless you had the item on hand.


I thought so too, but just checking, I find no obvious
rule/guideline, nor anything in the User Agreement.

Finally, a quick look at FB timestamps (esp. the
recent exchange of Neg fire) suggests that this seller
is an FB hostager. Chances are they have a lot more
unhappy customers than the 4 negs (3 removed) suggest.

--
Regards, Bob Niland
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NOT speaking for any employer, client or Internet Service Provider.

DeWayne December 27th 04 08:37 PM


"pickle" wrote in message
...
Bummer. The wife ordered me a Degen 1103 for Christmas. She ordered
it from Liypn through eBay. He must have had a lot of orders
because he's out and won't get more for a couple of weeks or so.
Thought you weren't supposed to list items on eBay unless you had the item
on hand.


Did they tell you it was shipped?



DeWayne December 27th 04 08:48 PM


"pickle" wrote in message
...
Bummer. The wife ordered me a Degen 1103 for Christmas. She ordered
it from Liypn through eBay. He must have had a lot of orders
because he's out and won't get more for a couple of weeks or so.
Thought you weren't supposed to list items on eBay unless you had the item
on hand.


Looks like Liypn is gonna get some heavy competition from those selling
Kaito's in the USA. 1 yr USA warranty, and AC adapter.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...0611 087&rd=1




m II December 28th 04 05:23 AM

pickle wrote:

Bummer. The wife ordered me a Degen 1103 for Christmas. She ordered
it from Liypn through eBay. He must have had a lot of orders
because he's out and won't get more for a couple of weeks or so.
Thought you weren't supposed to list items on eBay unless you had the
item on hand.


Perhaps he couldn't afford the shipping. The airlines being so greedy
and all, the

Degen Air Rate

may be just too outlandish.





mike
































I should be ashamed of myself...

Conan Ford December 28th 04 10:17 AM

pickle wrote in news:yKidnXvGYYDx003cRVn-
:

Bummer. The wife ordered me a Degen 1103 for Christmas. She ordered
it from Liypn through eBay. He must have had a lot of orders
because he's out and won't get more for a couple of weeks or so.
Thought you weren't supposed to list items on eBay unless you had the
item on hand.


I bought two radios from lipyn, a DE-1102 and a PL-550. The experience
with the first one was excellent. As for the second, I purchased it on
August 13. On arrival, I discovered that the wall wart didn't work (with
the included adapter of course). I contact lipyn on or about August 30
about getting a replacement. I sent the wall wart back before labor day by
air mail--2 week delivery time. Since I'd paid the "insurance" so I was
expecting prompt replacement--after all, I had found the deficiency within
7 days of receiving the item, so I expected the "warranty" quoted in the
auction would be quickly honored, which is, immediately replacement.
Instead, I got the run around and finally got a replacement just before
Christmas.

Based on this long replacement time, despite the misleading auction
description, I'm not going to be a repeat customer. When the auction
description promises prompt replacement for defects, a 3 month wait
approximately between the defective item being received by the seller, and
finally the replacement being posted (december 15) is not reasonable. If
you buy from lipyn, and you pay the "insurance", be prepared to ship the
entire package back immediately if you find any defect in any component, or
it will be a long wait.


Walter December 28th 04 10:29 AM



I bought two radios from lipyn, a DE-1102 and a PL-550. The experience
with the first one was excellent. As for the second, I purchased it on
August 13. On arrival, I discovered that the wall wart didn't work (with
the included adapter of course). I contact lipyn on or about August 30
about getting a replacement. I sent the wall wart back before labor day by
air mail--2 week delivery time. Since I'd paid the "insurance" so I was
expecting prompt replacement--after all, I had found the deficiency within
7 days of receiving the item, so I expected the "warranty" quoted in the
auction would be quickly honored, which is, immediately replacement.
Instead, I got the run around and finally got a replacement just before
Christmas.


According to my calculations, there are 17 days between August 13 and
August 30. Perhaps this was a typo. If it wasn't, then you didn't find
the defect within the warranty period.


Brenda Ann December 28th 04 10:41 AM


"Walter" wrote in message
ink.net...


I bought two radios from lipyn, a DE-1102 and a PL-550. The experience
with the first one was excellent. As for the second, I purchased it on
August 13. On arrival, I discovered that the wall wart didn't work

(with
the included adapter of course). I contact lipyn on or about August 30
about getting a replacement. I sent the wall wart back before labor day

by
air mail--2 week delivery time. Since I'd paid the "insurance" so I was
expecting prompt replacement--after all, I had found the deficiency

within
7 days of receiving the item, so I expected the "warranty" quoted in the
auction would be quickly honored, which is, immediately replacement.
Instead, I got the run around and finally got a replacement just before
Christmas.


According to my calculations, there are 17 days between August 13 and
August 30. Perhaps this was a typo. If it wasn't, then you didn't find
the defect within the warranty period.


You're not figuring in the transit time for shipping. It was purchased on
August 13.. it takes a while to get from China to stateside.. even having
gotten the radio in 17 days was pretty good time.



Conan Ford December 28th 04 12:09 PM

"Brenda Ann" wrote in
:


"Walter" wrote in message
ink.net...



You're not figuring in the transit time for shipping. It was purchased
on August 13.. it takes a while to get from China to stateside.. even
having gotten the radio in 17 days was pretty good time.


Correct, it was received and signed for on August 27.

tianli December 28th 04 10:35 PM


I bought two radios from lipyn, a DE-1102 and a PL-550


For the same price of those two cheap radios you could have had one
excellent radio that actually worked superbly.
So, you sent two donations to the Communist Party of China.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...hinaoil27.html
Feel good?



m II December 28th 04 11:21 PM

tianli wrote:

I bought two radios from lipyn, a DE-1102 and a PL-550



For the same price of those two cheap radios you could have had one
excellent radio that actually worked superbly.
So, you sent two donations to the Communist Party of China.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...hinaoil27.html
Feel good?



The US gov. loves the commies so much that they even borrow money from
them. Barry Goldwater is turning in his grave, along with Patton and
thousands of others who died fighting that particular evil.

dxhaze will be by shortly to tell us how GOOD free enterprise is, even
when dealing with the devil.



mike



--
"Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day.
Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."

Terry Pratchett

Brian Hill December 28th 04 11:35 PM


"m II" wrote in message

The US gov. loves the commies so much that they even borrow money from
them. Barry Goldwater is turning in his grave, along with Patton and
thousands of others who died fighting that particular evil.

dxhaze will be by shortly to tell us how GOOD free enterprise is, even
when dealing with the devil.



mike


Hey mike! I heard that Canadians keep pet French people and apparently your
able to train them to play hockey? Is that true?

B.H.



dxAce December 29th 04 12:13 AM



m II wrote:

tianli wrote:

I bought two radios from lipyn, a DE-1102 and a PL-550



For the same price of those two cheap radios you could have had one
excellent radio that actually worked superbly.
So, you sent two donations to the Communist Party of China.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...hinaoil27.html
Feel good?


The US gov. loves the commies so much that they even borrow money from
them. Barry Goldwater is turning in his grave, along with Patton and
thousands of others who died fighting that particular evil.

dxhaze will be by shortly to tell us how GOOD free enterprise is, even
when dealing with the devil.


Most any free enterprise is good 'tard boy as long as it does not involve trade
with CanaDuh or ChinUh.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Boycott CanaDuh andChinUh.

One sucks, and one blows. You decide.



running dogg December 29th 04 02:22 AM

tianli wrote:


I bought two radios from lipyn, a DE-1102 and a PL-550


For the same price of those two cheap radios you could have had one
excellent radio that actually worked superbly.
So, you sent two donations to the Communist Party of China.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...hinaoil27.html
Feel good?


Clue: The Chinese Communist Party has its hand in practically every
"business" undertaking in China. Since everything electronic is now made
in China, this means that it's now impossible to find a brand new SW
radio that does NOT have some connection to the Chinese Communist Party.
If you want to know who to thank for this, look at the American and
Japanese CEOs who can't resist having their products made by laborers
making 10 cents a day, even if it means giving the ruling party a cut of
the profits. In the process, they have so destroyed the industrial bases
of America and Japan that the Japanese economy is in a permanent
depression and the US economy is headed there, and the US military can't
adequately equip its soldiers. Americans and Japanese: when you're
starving to death because all the jobs in your countries have been
exported to China, don't eat your Degen, eat the nearest filthy rich
"multinational" CEO. Oh, you COULD buy a used "new in box" made in Japan
Sony off ebay-if you want to pay an exorbitant price for it.


Telamon December 29th 04 06:10 AM

In article , running dogg wrote:

tianli wrote:


I bought two radios from lipyn, a DE-1102 and a PL-550


For the same price of those two cheap radios you could have had one
excellent radio that actually worked superbly.
So, you sent two donations to the Communist Party of China.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...hinaoil27.html
Feel good?


Clue: The Chinese Communist Party has its hand in practically every
"business" undertaking in China. Since everything electronic is now made
in China, this means that it's now impossible to find a brand new SW
radio that does NOT have some connection to the Chinese Communist Party.
If you want to know who to thank for this, look at the American and
Japanese CEOs who can't resist having their products made by laborers
making 10 cents a day, even if it means giving the ruling party a cut of
the profits. In the process, they have so destroyed the industrial bases
of America and Japan that the Japanese economy is in a permanent
depression and the US economy is headed there, and the US military can't
adequately equip its soldiers. Americans and Japanese: when you're
starving to death because all the jobs in your countries have been
exported to China, don't eat your Degen, eat the nearest filthy rich
"multinational" CEO. Oh, you COULD buy a used "new in box" made in Japan
Sony off ebay-if you want to pay an exorbitant price for it.


I own several radios none of which were made in mainland China.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

m II December 29th 04 07:48 AM

Brian Hill wrote:


Hey mike! I heard that Canadians keep pet French people and apparently your
able to train them to play hockey? Is that true?


I don't know. When I was a kid, all my pets met untimely ends, so
eventually I got banned from the pet stores. I now have no idea what
they carry in the way of Merchandise OR what it tastes like cooked.

The Quebecois were Canadian before the Anglais wars, so it's unlikely
they'd keep each other as pets...the interior decorating types
notwithstanding, of course.


As for training, it's not needed. Hockey seems to be in the blood from
birth. In order to keep a universal balance, ninety percent of our
Football players are YouAlls and about the same ratio of YOUR hockey
players are Canadians...except this year, when they're merely unemployed.


mike



--
"Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day.
Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."

Terry Pratchett

tianli December 30th 04 12:55 AM


Clue: The Chinese Communist Party has its hand in practically every
"business" undertaking in China.


True!

Since everything electronic is now made
in China, this means that it's now impossible to find a brand new SW
radio that does NOT have some connection to the Chinese Communist Party.


False!
The only in production Sony SW radios I am aware of that are made in China
are the
low end SW35 & SW11 models.

If you want to know who to thank for this, look at the American and
Japanese CEOs who can't resist having their products made by laborers
making 10 cents a day.


Wrong! Blame the Chinese Communist Party which grossly underpays its
workforce and still insists on undervalueing its currency. Which
incidently, has been pegged to the US$ for a decade now while their economy
grows by leaps and bounds. Furthermore, as the US$ depreciates (at least
15% so far) so does the Chinese Yuan$ making Chinese produced products ever
more cheaper in the rest of the worlds currencies.

even if it means giving the ruling party a cut of
the profits. In the process, they have so destroyed the industrial bases
of America and Japan that the Japanese economy is in a permanent
depression and the US economy is headed there,


The Japanese are the most nepotistic society on earth. Beleive me they
would rather
employ Japanese rather then Chinese which the Japanese historically don't
carry any fond love for.

The world, including Japan, has simply been forced to compete on price. If
factories don't lower
their cost the company will cease to exist. Now it is China's move just as
it was Japan's back in the 80's.
We have been here before - how soon we forget!




tianli December 31st 04 11:41 PM

The world, including Japan, has simply been forced to
compete on price. If factories don't lower
their cost the company will cease to exist. Now it is
China's move just as it was Japan's back in the 80's.
We have been here before - how soon we forget!


Spot On! It always comes down to supply and demand, expenses
vs revenue, and who can stay profitable. Right now, the
environment in China allows for an easier path to
profitability for that market - regardless of how the little
guy may, or may not, get dumped on. I'm pretty confident that
is the way things will remain until the day when food,
clothing and shelter are completely free...


Selling out to China

Senior vice presidents of Microsoft: "It's definitely a cultural change to
use foreign workers. But if I can save a dollar, hallelujah."

The time for playing nice with corporate turncoats and their enablers in
government is over. It's time to name names and demand that American
companies act like they actually give a damn about the land of the free and
the home of the brave.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/comme...4039-4953r.htm




Fred A. Murphy January 2nd 05 11:26 PM


On 27-Dec-2004, Bob Niland wrote:

Thought you weren't supposed to list items on eBay
unless you had the item on hand.


I thought so too, but just checking, I find no obvious
rule/guideline, nor anything in the User Agreement.


You are allowed to list items for future delivery on ebaY if you anticipate
having the product in hand within 30 days. This has been the case ever
since I helped run nicmac042200 to ground on ebaY a few years ago, even
though as usual ebaY refused to listen until it cost them something like a
quarter million in claims for non-delivery.

His gimmick was selling future delivery of state quarters at a discount from
face value. You could buy quarters from him for as little as $2 a roll for
Hawaii and Alaska, due in 2008. Among other things, he got high FB ratings
by promising free shipping (at some future date) for anyone who left him
positive FB, so you had people telling everyone what great service, etc he
provided when in fact they had never received anything from him.

For an interesting story of the wilder and woolier days of ebaY, check
http://www.deja.com and type in nicmac and Ponzi. I had people telling me I
was wrong back then, too. Until they finally realized they weren't going to
get their $1000 in quarters they paid $700 for.

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