Earthquake: Will WWV skip or add seconds?
 

If the earth slows down or speeds up, our clocks might be wrong. To synchronize
celestial time with earth time, WWV makes occasional adjustments to UTC.
What will happen this time?

Excerpt of news story:

Enzo Boschi, the head of Italy's National Geophysics Institute, likened the
quake's power to detonating a million atomic bombs the size of those dropped on
Japan during World War II, and said the shaking was so powerful it even
disturbed the Earth's rotation.

``All the planet is vibrating'' from the quake, he told Italian state radio.
Other scientists said it was early too say whether the rotation was affected by
the quake.

Radioman390 wrote:

If the earth slows down or speeds up, our clocks might be wrong. To synchronize
celestial time with earth time, WWV makes occasional adjustments to UTC.
What will happen this time?

I think the Italian was a bit overly excited. But yes, adjustments are made to UTC
time on occassion.

And of course the planet was vibrating, that is why even seismometers in the US and
other areas are readily able to pinpoint the epicenter of any earthquake on earth.

Stay calm.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Excerpt of news story:

Enzo Boschi, the head of Italy's National Geophysics Institute, likened the
quake's power to detonating a million atomic bombs the size of those dropped on
Japan during World War II, and said the shaking was so powerful it even
disturbed the Earth's rotation.

``All the planet is vibrating'' from the quake, he told Italian state radio.
Other scientists said it was early too say whether the rotation was affected by
the quake.

Harveyat8c43z0 wrote:

If the earth slows down or speeds up, our clocks might be wrong.

Heres what you do.
Show up to work a hour early.
When your Boss asks you why
- Tell him it's because of The Tidal Waves..



T

I'd rather show up an hour late and blame it on the expansion of the
universe. :)

"Radioman390" wrote
``All the planet is vibrating'' from the quake, he told Italian state
radio.
Other scientists said it was early too say whether the rotation was
affected by
the quake.

And the earth just yawned, unimpressed with its own bowel movements, let
alone anything its riders can do to it.

Radioman390 wrote:

If the earth slows down or speeds up, our clocks might be wrong. To synchronize
celestial time with earth time, WWV makes occasional adjustments to UTC.
What will happen this time?

Excerpt of news story:

Enzo Boschi, the head of Italy's National Geophysics Institute, likened the
quake's power to detonating a million atomic bombs the size of those dropped on
Japan during World War II, and said the shaking was so powerful it even
disturbed the Earth's rotation.

``All the planet is vibrating'' from the quake, he told Italian state radio.
Other scientists said it was early too say whether the rotation was affected by
the quake.


The entire planet vibrated from the Alaska quake in 1964, too, but it
didn't affect the earth's general rotation.

"running dogg" wrote in message
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Radioman390 wrote:

The entire planet vibrated from the Alaska quake in 1964, too, but it
didn't affect the earth's general rotation.

Speaking of Alaska, Steve Quale on Coast to Coast AM
(Art Bell's former radio carnival kook sideshow) and Pravda
have both said that the HAARP *caused* the Sumatra Earthquake
of 2005 and it's all some big conspiracy.

How so predictable eh.......?

IT'S GETTIN AWFUL CROWDED UP THERE ON THE
GRASSY KNOLL! (ro'ing-tflmao at these radio kooks on C to C AM !)

Radioman390 wrote:

If the earth slows down or speeds up, our clocks might be wrong. To synchronize
celestial time with earth time, WWV makes occasional adjustments to UTC.
What will happen this time?

According to some reports, the day might have been shortened by 3 microseconds.

Again, I caution you to remain calm. Stay in your home(s) until this all gets
sorted out.

Wouldn't want you out there running around not knowing what time it really is.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

3 whole microseconds! woohoo! Extra holiday time, no, wait a minute ---
that means I have to work an extra 3 microseconds every single day. that's
no good. If I set up a large gyroscope in my back yard and attach it to a
motor, can I speed the earth up again?

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Radioman390 wrote:

If the earth slows down or speeds up, our clocks might be wrong. To
synchronize
celestial time with earth time, WWV makes occasional adjustments to UTC.
What will happen this time?

According to some reports, the day might have been shortened by 3
microseconds.

Again, I caution you to remain calm. Stay in your home(s) until this all
gets
sorted out.

Wouldn't want you out there running around not knowing what time it really
is.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"-=jd=-" wrote in message

Doubtful - I'm pretty sure it takes special blue pajamas with a
big red "S" on the chest to do that...


-=jd=-

Hi jd. You can find em on Ebay from time to time. :)

B.H.

Brian Hill wrote:
"-=jd=-" wrote in message


Doubtful - I'm pretty sure it takes special blue pajamas with a
big red "S" on the chest to do that...


-=jd=-


Hi jd. You can find em on Ebay from time to time. :)


Those are all fakes. **I** bought the real thing about four years ago.

mike-el




--
"Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day.
Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."

Terry Pratchett

"-=jd=-" wrote in message

Well, if you catch Wonder-Woman "flagrante delicto", beware of
the invisible man...


-=jd=-


woman+crime+act+invisable man? Hum? jd! you don't have any of those old
kinky comic books do ya? :)

B.H.

Evertime I see Wonder Woman, I get hungry for a good Chinese buffet.

Those metallic cones over each breast just looks like Woks to me!

Best--- ;-)
Ron


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Well, if you catch Wonder-Woman "flagrante delicto", beware of
the invisible man...



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Most probably true. Conservation of rotational energy and momentum (a
couple of those basic laws of physics, don'tcha know) makes the
rotational speed stay pretty much the same before and after a quake,
even when Earth rings like a bell.

I would love to find out if anyone noted any disruptions in the
geomagnetic field or ionosphere (via shortwave anomalies or any other
method) just prior to the quake. This theory has been floating about
for awhile now, and it would be great to know. Coming close on the
heels of the *pretty big* south ocean quake near New Zealand, there
could have been two disruptions in short order.

Bruce Jensen

"-=jd=-" wrote in message
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On Tue 28 Dec 2004 07:51:18p, "Brian Hill"
wrote in message :


"-=jd=-" wrote in message

Well, if you catch Wonder-Woman "flagrante delicto",
beware of the invisible man...


-=jd=-


woman+crime+act+invisable man? Hum? jd! you don't have any
of those old kinky comic books do ya? :)

B.H.



Ha! Nope - the popular comics when I was a pre-teen were
Archie, Richie-Rich, etc. Well, there *was* "Mad Magazine".

I was reminded of the joke about Superman zooming down to
ravage (at Superman Speed) what he thought was Wonder-Woman,
sun-bathing in the nude, legs spread and arms behind her head.
What he didn't count on was that the Invisible Man was with
Wonder Woman at the time.

If you've never heard it (I thought everyone had) you can
imagine the punch-line...

-=jd=-

Yep I heard it before and I think it was in one of those comics. If mikes
suit is real? I'm sure he'll have a great time :)

B.H.

Brian Hill wrote:

Yep I heard it before and I think it was in one of those comics. If mikes
suit is real? I'm sure he'll have a great time :)


I only use it for the BENEFIT of mankind, not cheap sexual adventurism
or exploitation...that episode with Margaret Trudeau was a complete
accident, as were Halle Berry, Deborah Harry, Catherine Bach, Bridget
Bardot, Ingrid Berman and countless others.

I've since suspended ALL night flights, my night vision is obviously
NOT what it should be. Neither is my super strength. Ever tried flying
home eight thousand miles after one of these little accidents?



mike-el

Don't loose sight of the fact your all talking about three micro seconds
being lost....
i don't think the survivors if this natural catastrophe will be thinking of
three micro seconds being lost what about the thousands of lives that have
been lost who care,s about three micro seconds..



"Ron G" wrote in message
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Evertime I see Wonder Woman, I get hungry for a good Chinese buffet.

Those metallic cones over each breast just looks like Woks to me!

Best--- ;-)
Ron


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big boy now wrote:

Don't loose sight of the fact your all talking about three micro seconds
being lost....
i don't think the survivors if this natural catastrophe will be thinking of
three micro seconds being lost what about the thousands of lives that have
been lost who care,s about three micro seconds..

It was a legitimate question, and did nothing to add or detract with regards to
the suffering currently being felt in the earthquake/tsunami affected area.

Grab those meds, and hang on tight.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

According to some reports, the day might have been shortened by 3
microseconds.


How far does a HF radio signal travel in 3 microseconds?

tianli wrote:


According to some reports, the day might have been shortened by 3
microseconds.


How far does a HF radio signal travel in 3 microseconds?


A little over half a mile, if my math is right.

Tony

0.558 miles.

Mark.
Auckland,
New Zealand.

"tianli" wrote in message
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According to some reports, the day might have been shortened by 3
microseconds.


How far does a HF radio signal travel in 3 microseconds?

About 900 meters.

Mark.
Auckland
New Zealand.

"tianli" wrote in message
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According to some reports, the day might have been shortened by 3
microseconds.


How far does a HF radio signal travel in 3 microseconds?

0.558 miles.

About 900 meters.

Is that in empty space or in an atmosphere?

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 21:26, tianli posted to
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0.558 miles.

About 900 meters.

Is that in empty space or in an atmosphere?

speed of light or electricity is constant, never varies.

"uncle arnie" wrote in message
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 21:26, tianli posted to
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0.558 miles.

About 900 meters.

Is that in empty space or in an atmosphere?

speed of light or electricity is constant, never varies.

Not so. The constant applied to the speed of light applies only to the speed
of light in a vacuum. It slows down considerably when it hits atmosphere,
and much more when it hits water (this is what causes the refraction you see
when you put a straw in a glass of water)

Electricity is even more affected by the medium in which it travels. This
includes radio waves. Open atmosphere radio waves travel at ~95% of light
speed once they hit an antenna, some coax slows them down to as little as
60% of the speed of light (velocity factor)

"uncle arnie" wrote in message
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 21:26, tianli posted to
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0.558 miles.

About 900 meters.

Is that in empty space or in an atmosphere?

speed of light or electricity is constant, never varies.

Sorry, Uncle Arnie, but you're way off on this one. The question was right
on. The value that you so often hear given for the speed of light is its
speed in a vacuum, which is constant barring other factors (i.e. massive
bodies.)

Here's a link explaining the experiment 5 or so years ago in which
scientists slowed it down to a mere 38 miles an hour.

http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/....18/light.html

"Light, which normally travels the 240,000 miles from the Moon to Earth in
less than two seconds, has been slowed to the speed of a minivan in
rush-hour traffic -- 38 miles an hour."

And to prevent anyone (and I don't mean you, Uncle) from claiming that
doesn't apply because it was due to human action or interference here's
another one:

http://cbc.ca/cgi-bin/templates/view...eedlight000720

"Light travels slower in any medium more dense than a vacuum, which has no
density at all. For example, light travelling through glass slows to
two-thirds its speed in a vacuum. If the glass is altered, the light can be
slowed even further."

I used that Canadian link on purpose, by the way. gbg