VHF/UHF NY TV
 

I use a VHF/UHF black and white televion. No cable. (Way to expensive!)

Can someone please give me a list of all of the channels/Stations I
should be able to pick up in the Queens/NY area? Including other near
by states that broadcast to NY?

I turn on the TV this evening and while turning the channels I noticed
channel 25 came in very clear.

I am not familier with this channel 25. As I am watching it while I
type this, I am waiting for station identification. But because they
are broadcasting from live Times Square, I have not heard station ID as
of yet.

Well, I hope free TV continues in the future!

73

"SR" wrote in message
...
I use a VHF/UHF black and white televion. No cable. (Way to expensive!)

Can someone please give me a list of all of the channels/Stations I
should be able to pick up in the Queens/NY area? Including other near
by states that broadcast to NY?

I turn on the TV this evening and while turning the channels I noticed
channel 25 came in very clear.

I am not familier with this channel 25. As I am watching it while I
type this, I am waiting for station identification. But because they
are broadcasting from live Times Square, I have not heard station ID as
of yet.

Well, I hope free TV continues in the future!

73


2 WCBS CBS
4 WNBC NBC
5 WNYW FOX
7 WABC ABC
9 WWOR UPN
11 WPIX WB
13 WNET PBS
25 WNYE NYC Bd. of Ed.
47 WNJU Telemundo

Outlying stations, network affiliation unknown:

8 WTNH
10 WCAU
21 WLIW
31 WPXN
41 WXTV
50 WNJN
54 WTBY
55 WLNY
62 WRNN
63 WMBC
68 WFUT

SR wrote:
I use a VHF/UHF black and white televion. No cable. (Way to expensive!)

Can someone please give me a list of all of the channels/Stations I
should be able to pick up in the Queens/NY area? Including other near
by states that broadcast to NY?

I turn on the TV this evening and while turning the channels I noticed
channel 25 came in very clear.

I am not familier with this channel 25. As I am watching it while I
type this, I am waiting for station identification. But because they
are broadcasting from live Times Square, I have not heard station ID as
of yet.

Check out the website in my signature.

Channel 25 is WNYE-TV. If I recall properly it belongs to the NYC Board
of Education and normally carries a mix of educational and ethnic
programs.

I don't promise this list is complete but...

2 WCBS CBS
4 WNBC NBC
5 WNYW Fox
6 WNYZ Spanish (from ch. 49)
7 WABC ABC
9 WWOR UPN
11 WPIX WB
13 WNET PBS
25 WNYE PBS
26 W26CE test pattern
WNXY Spanish (to ch. 64)
31 WPXN Pax
32 WNXY Home Shopping (to ch. 43)
34 WPXO Pax (simulcast to ch. 31)
35 WNYX Spanish (to ch. 65)
36 W36AS ethnic (New Brunswick, NJ)
39 WNYN TV Azteca (Mexican) (to ch. 49)
41 WXTV Univision (Spanish)
43 WXNY Home Shopping (from ch. 32)
47 WNJU Telemundo (Spanish)
49 WNYN TV Azteca (from ch. 39)
WNYZ Spanish (to ch. 6)
50 WNJN NJN/PBS (Montclair, NJ)
53 WKOB Korean
58 WNJB NJN/PBS (New Brunswick, NJ)
60 W60AI Home Shopping
63 WMBC ethnic/religious (Newton, NJ)
64 WNXY Spanish (from ch. 26)
65 WNYX Spanish (from ch. 35)
66 WFME ethnic/religious (West Milford, NJ)
68 WFUT Telefutura (Spanish)


--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"SR" wrote in message
...
I use a VHF/UHF black and white televion. No cable. (Way to
expensive!)

Can someone please give me a list of all of the channels/Stations I
should be able to pick up in the Queens/NY area? Including other near
by states that broadcast to NY?

I turn on the TV this evening and while turning the channels I noticed
channel 25 came in very clear.

I am not familier with this channel 25. As I am watching it while I
type this, I am waiting for station identification. But because they
are broadcasting from live Times Square, I have not heard station ID as
of yet.

Well, I hope free TV continues in the future!

73


2 WCBS CBS
4 WNBC NBC
5 WNYW FOX
7 WABC ABC
9 WWOR UPN
11 WPIX WB
13 WNET PBS
25 WNYE NYC Bd. of Ed.
47 WNJU Telemundo

Outlying stations, network affiliation unknown:

8 WTNH
10 WCAU
21 WLIW
31 WPXN
41 WXTV
50 WNJN
54 WTBY
55 WLNY
62 WRNN
63 WMBC
68 WFUT


WCAU is NBC in Philadelphia.

HankG

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 06:35:35 GMT, Doug Smith W9WI
wrote:

Channel 25 is WNYE-TV. If I recall properly it belongs to the NYC Board
of Education and normally carries a mix of educational and ethnic
programs.

Actually, now it's owned by the City of NY - hizzoner got the state
legislature to put the schools under direct city control and the BOE
no longer exists.

IIRC the station, including the FM & TV transmitter, is at Brooklyn
Tech (High School).

wnye.org

Brenda Ann wrote:
Outlying stations, network affiliation unknown:

8 WTNH ABC, New Haven/Hartford, Conn.
10 WCAU NBC, Philadelphia
21 WLIW PBS, Long Island
31 WPXN Pax, NYC
41 WXTV Univision, NYC
50 WNJN PBS, New Jersey
54 WTBY TBN (religious), Poughkeepsie
55 WLNY Independent, Long Island
62 WRNN all news (?), Kingston
63 WMBC religious/ethnic, Newton NJ
68 WFUT Telefutura, NYC

There are others.


--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

26 and 35 seem to be low power stations with various interview shows,
music video shows supported by premium phone numbers, brokered ethnic
and religious shows, et alia.

One interesting thing about WWOR - it is now owned by News Corp.
(Murdoch who also owns Fox and WNYW) and both stations have studios in
the old Trans Lux Theater (205 E. 67 St.)

Back when RKO/General was having trouble with the FCC, Congress passed
a law requiring the FCC to renew the license of any commercial VHF
station that moved to New Jersey, and RKO/General moved channel 9's
license to Secaucus, NJ, near the Meadowlands. (Eventually, the FCC
made General Tire get rid of ALL its broadcast facilities because it
had lied to the FCC about secret contracts requiring GT dealers to
advertise with RKO/General stations.)

So, after all that noise about NJ getting a commercial VHF TV station,
WWOR may still have a license marked Secaucus but they're on Third
Ave. & 67 St. in Manhattan. (WNET, 13, PBS is licensed to Newark; its
commercial predecessor, WAAT, was. Its facilities are, however, in
NYC. The Spanish stations on 41 and 47 are licensed to NJ.)

However, the WWOR Secaucus facility is now used by...the News
Corp.-owned UPN station in Baltimore. (upn24.tv)

In article ,
SR wrote:
I use a VHF/UHF black and white televion. No cable. (Way to expensive!)

Can someone please give me a list of all of the channels/Stations I
should be able to pick up in the Queens/NY area? Including other near
by states that broadcast to NY?

I turn on the TV this evening and while turning the channels I noticed
channel 25 came in very clear.

I am not familier with this channel 25. As I am watching it while I
type this, I am waiting for station identification. But because they
are broadcasting from live Times Square, I have not heard station ID as
of yet.

Well, I hope free TV continues in the future!

First, get your latitude and longitude in Degrees,Minutes,Seconds form
and then go the the FCC web site page
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/video/tvq.html

This is a geographic database search that will give you, after you
specify your location and a distance, every TV station and translator,
analog and digital, within that distance. Including an azimuth bearing
in degrees and distance to the station.

Mark Zenier Washington State resident

"Brenda Ann" wrote:
8 WTNH
10 WCAU
21 WLIW
31 WPXN
41 WXTV
50 WNJN
54 WTBY
55 WLNY
62 WRNN
63 WMBC
68 WFUT

You may also get the following from CT:

30 NBC
49 PBS
61 FOX

Art N2AH

SR wrote:
I use a VHF/UHF black and white televion. No cable. (Way to expensive!)

Can someone please give me a list of all of the channels/Stations I
should be able to pick up in the Queens/NY area? Including other near
by states that broadcast to NY?

I turn on the TV this evening and while turning the channels I noticed
channel 25 came in very clear.

I am not familier with this channel 25. As I am watching it while I
type this, I am waiting for station identification. But because they
are broadcasting from live Times Square, I have not heard station ID as
of yet.

Well, I hope free TV continues in the future!

73

I remember a few years ago on channel 13 (PBS), sometimes they would
give these old government program to educate the public (probably from
the early 1970's) about illegal drugs. It was on late at night. The
footage was done on film not video, and the audio was badly worpped.

The program would often have a doctor explaining how dangerous illegal
drugs were, and he would show awful photographs of people.

Does anyone remembers these programs? When did day started to put them
on TV? Why did they stop playing them on TV? Who made them? Who
sponsored them? What there they called? Were they played throughout
the US?

73!

Brenda Ann wrote:

"SR" wrote in message
...

I use a VHF/UHF black and white televion. No cable. (Way to expensive!)

Can someone please give me a list of all of the channels/Stations I
should be able to pick up in the Queens/NY area? Including other near
by states that broadcast to NY?

I turn on the TV this evening and while turning the channels I noticed
channel 25 came in very clear.

I am not familier with this channel 25. As I am watching it while I
type this, I am waiting for station identification. But because they
are broadcasting from live Times Square, I have not heard station ID as
of yet.

Well, I hope free TV continues in the future!

73



2 WCBS CBS
4 WNBC NBC
5 WNYW FOX
7 WABC ABC
9 WWOR UPN
11 WPIX WB
13 WNET PBS
25 WNYE NYC Bd. of Ed.
47 WNJU Telemundo

Outlying stations, network affiliation unknown:

8 WTNH
10 WCAU
21 WLIW
31 WPXN
41 WXTV
50 WNJN
54 WTBY
55 WLNY
62 WRNN
63 WMBC
68 WFUT



Thank you & everyone else for this treasure of information!

73

SR wrote:

I use a VHF/UHF black and white televion. No cable. (Way to expensive!)

Can someone please give me a list of all of the channels/Stations I
should be able to pick up in the Queens/NY area? Including other near
by states that broadcast to NY?

I turn on the TV this evening and while turning the channels I noticed
channel 25 came in very clear.

I am not familier with this channel 25. As I am watching it while I
type this, I am waiting for station identification. But because they
are broadcasting from live Times Square, I have not heard station ID as
of yet.

Well, I hope free TV continues in the future!

73

I find that those color TV's do not work well unless you have cable
connected to them. Then you have to pay for it!

I do not mind watching a black & white TV with VHF/UHF like radio
reception. But it is hard to find a nice size black & white TV these
days.

I still use my less than 10" screen Zenith. On it I mainly watch PBS &
BBC. I am curious to know all of the different channels I could pick
up. And I hope that free VHF/UHF TV will continue.

On my larger color Toshiba TV, I mainly use it for my DVD & VCR.

Just to mention, when those first color VHF/UHF TV came out sometime in
the 1970's, you always had to adjust the colors. Then after a few years
the colors would bleed and the whole TV was totally mess up!

In the future I would like to buy a HDTV and use it for Playstation 2.

Can HDTV work without cable? And do they still make larger then 10"
screen black & white TV?

Those were the good old days!

73!

wrote in message
...
Channel 1 is a fed govt tv channel.(Correct me if I am mistaken about
that) If or when the s..t hits the fan big time,that is the only tv
channel that we can get on our tv sets.
cuhulin


Channel 1 has never actually existed. It was originally a designated
television channel, but was done away with and given to other services
before television ever actually started broadcasting (48-50 MHz is VHF low
band public service frequencies (police/fire/ambulance) and cordless phones,
baby monitors and other Part 15 devices. 50-54 MHz is the Amateur 6 meter
band.

Brenda Ann wrote:


wrote in message
...
Channel 1 is a fed govt tv channel.(Correct me if I am mistaken about
that) If or when the s..t hits the fan big time,that is the only tv
channel that we can get on our tv sets.
cuhulin


Channel 1 has never actually existed. It was originally a designated
television channel, but was done away with and given to other services
before television ever actually started broadcasting (48-50 MHz is VHF low
band public service frequencies (police/fire/ambulance) and cordless phones,
baby monitors and other Part 15 devices. 50-54 MHz is the Amateur 6 meter
band.

I think the problem with channel 1 had something to do with skywave
interference-channel 1 easily bounced off the ionosphere and caused
interference in the form of one channel 1 station interfering with
another one a thousand miles away. That can happen above 54 Mhz, but the
conditions are more rare, such as E Skip. There were actually 2 or 3
licensed channel 1's, and a number of early (1945-47) TV sets were made
with channel 1-I once owned an Airline (sold by Montgomery Ward) TV made
in 1947 or so that had channel 1. That particular set was actually made
by Hallicrafters. I believe there is a Channel 0 in Australia-can
anybody confirm this?

I own an old General Electric table model tv set I bought for $5.00 at a
Salvation Army thrift store about five years ago.The tv set was
manufactured in 1957.I just now went to one of my junk rooms in my house
and I took a look at it.The tv channel selector knob does have channel 1
on it.
cuhulin

Ask Philip Swann at, www.tvpredictions.com I have been getting his
free email newsletters for about five years.
cuhulin

Brenda Ann wrote:

Channel 1 has never actually existed. It was originally a designated
television channel, but was done away with and given to other services
before television ever actually started broadcasting (48-50 MHz is VHF low
band public service frequencies (police/fire/ambulance) and cordless phones,
baby monitors and other Part 15 devices. 50-54 MHz is the Amateur 6 meter
band.

Channel-1 was part of the original Armstrong FM band.

starman wrote:

Brenda Ann wrote:

Channel 1 has never actually existed. It was originally a designated
television channel, but was done away with and given to other services
before television ever actually started broadcasting (48-50 MHz is VHF low
band public service frequencies (police/fire/ambulance) and cordless phones,
baby monitors and other Part 15 devices. 50-54 MHz is the Amateur 6 meter
band.

Channel-1 was part of the original Armstrong FM band.

The Armstrong FM band was 42-50 Mhz, IIRC.

In article ,
SR wrote:
SR wrote:
I use a VHF/UHF black and white televion. No cable. (Way to expensive!)

Can someone please give me a list of all of the channels/Stations I
should be able to pick up in the Queens/NY area? Including other near
by states that broadcast to NY?

I turn on the TV this evening and while turning the channels I noticed
channel 25 came in very clear.

I am not familier with this channel 25. As I am watching it while I
type this, I am waiting for station identification. But because they
are broadcasting from live Times Square, I have not heard station ID as
of yet.

Well, I hope free TV continues in the future!

73

I remember a few years ago on channel 13 (PBS), sometimes they would
give these old government program to educate the public (probably from
the early 1970's) about illegal drugs. It was on late at night. The
footage was done on film not video, and the audio was badly worpped.

The program would often have a doctor explaining how dangerous illegal
drugs were, and he would show awful photographs of people.

Does anyone remembers these programs? When did day started to put them
on TV? Why did they stop playing them on TV? Who made them? Who
sponsored them? What there they called? Were they played throughout
the US?

73!


They're called "industial" movies and some poeple collect them.
A quick google found this;

http://www.prelinger.com/ephbib.html

--

a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m

Don't blame me. I voted for Gore.

I especially like those old World War Two informational and World War
Two training movies and and World War Two era movies with actual combat
footage in them.I should see about collecting some of them.
cuhulin

running dogg wrote:
I think the problem with channel 1 had something to do with skywave
interference-channel 1 easily bounced off the ionosphere and caused
interference in the form of one channel 1 station interfering with
another one a thousand miles away.

Among other reasons. Channel 1 was designated as a "community channel";
stations operating on this channel were limited in power. *All* the TV
channels were shared with other two-way services - the sharing didn't
work very well, and it started at the bottom end of the spectrum - i.e.,
in channel 1.

I don't think any channel 1 stations ever actually operated, but at
least one (in Riverside, California) did receive a permit.

by Hallicrafters. I believe there is a Channel 0 in Australia-can
anybody confirm this?

There is. http://www.w9wi.com/articles/system.htm#systemd.htm , it's at
45-52MHz. My information is that channel 0 is being phased out, if it
hasn't already been deleted. Australia also has a channel 1, but it's
56-63MHz, roughly equivalent to channel 2 in the U.S.

In general, channel numbers outside the Americas correspond to different
frequencies than what we use here.
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

SR wrote:
Can HDTV work without cable?

Yes. All over-the-air analog stations are required to convert to
digital HDTV - probably by 2009. All the NYC stations are up with some
kind of digital signal, though 9/11 stunted DTV pretty badly.

A requirement to include a DTV tuner is being phased in on new TV sets.
Any big-screen TV you buy today will support over-the-air DTV. (OK,
the stores may still have a few older sets in stock...) This
requirement will extend to smaller sets over the next year or two.
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

In article ,
SR wrote:
SR wrote:
I remember a few years ago on channel 13 (PBS), sometimes they would
give these old government program to educate the public (probably from
the early 1970's) about illegal drugs. It was on late at night. The
footage was done on film not video, and the audio was badly worpped.

The program would often have a doctor explaining how dangerous illegal
drugs were, and he would show awful photographs of people.

Does anyone remembers these programs? When did day started to put them
on TV? Why did they stop playing them on TV? Who made them? Who
sponsored them? What there they called? Were they played throughout
the US?

"Round, Round, Out of Your Mind,
You think you're seeing things
I know you're blind
A million bright colors explode in your head
Today, you're just high, tomorrow you're DEAD."

That was the theme song from an anti-LSD film, it also got some
top-40 airplay (probably from government payola).

They played them at school assemblys in the late 60's.
(VCRs were a big $$$ ticket item back then, no home video
existed. So educational stuff was all on film).

Mark Zenier Washington State resident

In article ,
Doug Smith W9WI wrote:
SR wrote:
Can HDTV work without cable?

Yes. All over-the-air analog stations are required to convert to
digital HDTV - probably by 2009. All the NYC stations are up with some
kind of digital signal, though 9/11 stunted DTV pretty badly.

A requirement to include a DTV tuner is being phased in on new TV sets.
Any big-screen TV you buy today will support over-the-air DTV. (OK,
the stores may still have a few older sets in stock...) This
requirement will extend to smaller sets over the next year or two.

You can also buy a Terrestrial HDTV tuner for $250-$500 (Samsung SIR-T351
seems to be the cheapest) that will feed your existing TV/VCR. But the
big box stores don't push them, probably because they get a kickback from
the small dish satellite outfits. Gee, why be fair to the consumer and
sell them a one time $300 box when you can lock them into a subscription
that costs them $600 a year.

Mark Zenier Washington State resident

"Doug Smith W9WI" wrote in message
...
SR wrote:
Can HDTV work without cable?

Yes. All over-the-air analog stations are required to convert to
digital HDTV - probably by 2009. All the NYC stations are up with some
kind of digital signal, though 9/11 stunted DTV pretty badly.



Close, they are required to switch to DTV, not to HDTV. Some stations will
never broadcast HDTV, and many will broadcast it only during certain times
of the broadcast day. Others will broadcast DTV at a lower resolution
(720i?) allowing them to have additional channels within the same bandwidth.

Brenda Ann wrote:
Close, they are required to switch to DTV, not to HDTV. Some stations will
never broadcast HDTV, and many will broadcast it only during certain times
of the broadcast day. Others will broadcast DTV at a lower resolution
(720i?) allowing them to have additional channels within the same bandwidth.

Sorry about that, I knew better...

--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

running dogg wrote:

starman wrote:

Channel-1 was part of the original Armstrong FM band.

The Armstrong FM band was 42-50 Mhz, IIRC.

Channel-1 was *originally* 44-50 Mhz.

http://members.aol.com/jeff560/tvch1.html

Well, I hope free TV continues in the future!

Well, it is a rare concept: Broadcasting you don't pay for!

Let's see if it survives.

Likely it won't. The FCC is pushing for digital TV and radio, and will require
broadcasters to shut down their analog (free) channels soon.
What it means, is that with digital signals they can start ADDRESSING their
siganls. No pay-no TV. And that means big brother will know what you're
watching because they know what you're paying for.

But take it a step further. You're a Democrat or a liberal, or an
arch-conservative, you may be BLOCKED from watching certain shows, or even
worse, the content is EDITED to suit your particular tastes. Of course, they
can also manipulate you.

Pretty scary huh?

Why do you think the government is funding PBS/CPB/NPR? Wait until they need
to control content. It'll be interesting.

In a really weird way, ANALOG IS FREEDOM!

running dogg wrote:

Radioman390 wrote:

Well, I hope free TV continues in the future!

Well, it is a rare concept: Broadcasting you don't pay for!

Let's see if it survives.

Likely it won't. The FCC is pushing for digital TV and radio, and will require
broadcasters to shut down their analog (free) channels soon.
What it means, is that with digital signals they can start ADDRESSING their
siganls. No pay-no TV. And that means big brother will know what you're
watching because they know what you're paying for.

But take it a step further. You're a Democrat or a liberal, or an
arch-conservative, you may be BLOCKED from watching certain shows, or even
worse, the content is EDITED to suit your particular tastes. Of course, they
can also manipulate you.

Pretty scary huh?

Why do you think the government is funding PBS/CPB/NPR? Wait until they need
to control content. It'll be interesting.

In a really weird way, ANALOG IS FREEDOM!

The US is starting to look more and more fascist by the day.

You're a kook!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

dxAce wrote:



running dogg wrote:

Radioman390 wrote:

Well, I hope free TV continues in the future!

Well, it is a rare concept: Broadcasting you don't pay for!

Let's see if it survives.

Likely it won't. The FCC is pushing for digital TV and radio, and will require
broadcasters to shut down their analog (free) channels soon.
What it means, is that with digital signals they can start ADDRESSING their
siganls. No pay-no TV. And that means big brother will know what you're
watching because they know what you're paying for.

But take it a step further. You're a Democrat or a liberal, or an
arch-conservative, you may be BLOCKED from watching certain shows, or even
worse, the content is EDITED to suit your particular tastes. Of course, they
can also manipulate you.

Pretty scary huh?

Why do you think the government is funding PBS/CPB/NPR? Wait until they need
to control content. It'll be interesting.

In a really weird way, ANALOG IS FREEDOM!

The US is starting to look more and more fascist by the day.

You're a kook!

Now we're talking shortwave. Kooks have SW stations (and kooks listen to
the kook SW stations), tards don't. :)


dxAce
Michigan
USA