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Michael January 6th 05 01:54 AM

11780 @ 1:49 UTC ???
 
11780 @ 1:49 UTC.

Is this Brazil; Radio Nacional Da Amazonia ???

Thanx !!!
--
Respectfully,

Michael

Location: New Jersey
Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods
Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire
Additional Radios: 7600GR,KA-1101,KA-1102
PL-550, KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III
Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube)
Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com



Joe Analssandrini January 6th 05 02:22 AM

Dear Michael,

You bet! Play great music, don't they?

It's been coming in loud-and-clear the past few days.

Believe it or not, I discovered it by accident while playing with my
Lafayette HE-10(!) receiver (which I like to use every couple of months
or so just to rekindle memories).

Of course I had my Wellbrook ALA 330S hooked up to the Lafayette (so it
wasn't "really" like "old times," but what the heck ...

As soon as I identified the station (they announce "Radio Nacional do
Brasilia"), I hooked the antenna back to my AOR AR7030 Plus which gave
far better reception and then ran the sound through my stereo system.

I'm listening to the station as I write (no music just now; male and
female announcers in Portuguese).

It's really fun and "magic," isn't it?

Best,

Joe

P.S. See my next "post" about the Wellbrook ALA 330S Active Loop
Antenna.


Michael January 6th 05 02:44 AM


"Joe Analssandrini" wrote in message
ups.com...
Dear Michael,

You bet! Play great music, don't they?

It's been coming in loud-and-clear the past few days.

Believe it or not, I discovered it by accident while playing with my
Lafayette HE-10(!) receiver (which I like to use every couple of months
or so just to rekindle memories).

Of course I had my Wellbrook ALA 330S hooked up to the Lafayette (so it
wasn't "really" like "old times," but what the heck ...

As soon as I identified the station (they announce "Radio Nacional do
Brasilia"), I hooked the antenna back to my AOR AR7030 Plus which gave
far better reception and then ran the sound through my stereo system.

I'm listening to the station as I write (no music just now; male and
female announcers in Portuguese).

It's really fun and "magic," isn't it?

Best,

Joe

P.S. See my next "post" about the Wellbrook ALA 330S Active Loop
Antenna.


Hiya, Joe...

Thanx for the confirmation. I heard them ID, but I wasn't 100 % sure of
what I heard. I was using my R-75 and "Frankenstein" 200' roof wire
antenna. The audio was clear and the strength was about S-7 to S-9. There
was some moderate QRN at times and it had constant fast fade in/out that was
bordering on being able to be described as "flutter". I checked out the
Passport blue pages and it shows as Radio Nacional, Brazil, so I figured I
had my ID correct They were indeed playing some great music. I'll be
returning to it regularly now as long as the signal holds up :-)

Thanx again !!!

Michael



ShortwaveMan January 6th 05 03:01 AM

Radio Nacional and Radio Nacional do Amazonia both come from Brasilia in the
heart of Brazil. They have an extensive network of less powerful stations
that operate the way our "am" stations do here, in providing coverage for
their people. Those stations' signals don't die at the border s and if you
like hunting for stations, they provide a good challenge.


"Michael" wrote in message
...

"Joe Analssandrini" wrote in message
ups.com...
Dear Michael,

You bet! Play great music, don't they?

It's been coming in loud-and-clear the past few days.

Believe it or not, I discovered it by accident while playing with my
Lafayette HE-10(!) receiver (which I like to use every couple of months
or so just to rekindle memories).

Of course I had my Wellbrook ALA 330S hooked up to the Lafayette (so it
wasn't "really" like "old times," but what the heck ...

As soon as I identified the station (they announce "Radio Nacional do
Brasilia"), I hooked the antenna back to my AOR AR7030 Plus which gave
far better reception and then ran the sound through my stereo system.

I'm listening to the station as I write (no music just now; male and
female announcers in Portuguese).

It's really fun and "magic," isn't it?

Best,

Joe

P.S. See my next "post" about the Wellbrook ALA 330S Active Loop
Antenna.


Hiya, Joe...

Thanx for the confirmation. I heard them ID, but I wasn't 100 % sure of
what I heard. I was using my R-75 and "Frankenstein" 200' roof wire
antenna. The audio was clear and the strength was about S-7 to S-9. There
was some moderate QRN at times and it had constant fast fade in/out that
was bordering on being able to be described as "flutter". I checked out
the Passport blue pages and it shows as Radio Nacional, Brazil, so I
figured I had my ID correct They were indeed playing some great music.
I'll be returning to it regularly now as long as the signal holds up :-)

Thanx again !!!

Michael




dxAce January 6th 05 04:26 AM



Michael wrote:

11780 @ 1:49 UTC.

Is this Brazil; Radio Nacional Da Amazonia ???


Perhaps you might actually try listening?



Thanx !!!
--
Respectfully,

Michael

Location: New Jersey
Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods
Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire
Additional Radios: 7600GR,KA-1101,KA-1102
PL-550, KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III
Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube)
Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com



Joe Analssandrini January 6th 05 05:01 AM

Hi Ace,

Michael heard the ID but wasn't sure what he heard. Portuguese is a
little tough if you're not familiar with its "sound."

Do you remember "La Voz do Occident?" (I'm sure my spelling is off.)
Best,

Joe


Michael January 6th 05 11:11 PM


"Joe Analssandrini" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi Ace,

Michael heard the ID but wasn't sure what he heard. Portuguese is a
little tough if you're not familiar with its "sound."

Do you remember "La Voz do Occident?" (I'm sure my spelling is off.)
Best,


Sure do... And thanx for setting Ace straight :-)

Michael



Michael January 6th 05 11:14 PM


"Joe Analssandrini" wrote in message
ups.com...
Dear Michael,

You bet! Play great music, don't they?


Playing great music again tonight; 01/06/05 at 23:10 UTC. Very good signal
too. :-)

Michael



dxAce January 6th 05 11:51 PM



Michael wrote:

"Joe Analssandrini" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi Ace,

Michael heard the ID but wasn't sure what he heard. Portuguese is a
little tough if you're not familiar with its "sound."

Do you remember "La Voz do Occident?" (I'm sure my spelling is off.)
Best,


Sure do... And thanx for setting Ace straight :-)


If he thought that he set me straight, he was mistaken. You did not indicate
that you heard an ID, and for him to state that you did is just plain crazy, how
would he know, based upon your post?

Y'all get back to me.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Michael January 7th 05 12:06 AM


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael wrote:

"Joe Analssandrini" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi Ace,

Michael heard the ID but wasn't sure what he heard. Portuguese is a
little tough if you're not familiar with its "sound."

Do you remember "La Voz do Occident?" (I'm sure my spelling is off.)
Best,


Sure do... And thanx for setting Ace straight :-)


If he thought that he set me straight, he was mistaken. You did not
indicate
that you heard an ID, and for him to state that you did is just plain
crazy, how
would he know, based upon your post?


Did you not see this line in quotes below ??? Or perhaps you responded
before you could read my second post....

"Thanx for the confirmation. I heard them ID, but I wasn't 100 % sure of
what I heard."

Michael



dxAce January 7th 05 12:13 AM



Michael wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael wrote:

"Joe Analssandrini" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi Ace,

Michael heard the ID but wasn't sure what he heard. Portuguese is a
little tough if you're not familiar with its "sound."

Do you remember "La Voz do Occident?" (I'm sure my spelling is off.)
Best,

Sure do... And thanx for setting Ace straight :-)


If he thought that he set me straight, he was mistaken. You did not
indicate
that you heard an ID, and for him to state that you did is just plain
crazy, how
would he know, based upon your post?


Did you not see this line in quotes below ??? Or perhaps you responded
before you could read my second post....

"Thanx for the confirmation. I heard them ID, but I wasn't 100 % sure of
what I heard."


Your second post never arrived here...

But if you did indeed hear them ID, then why did you ask in the first place?

That's a simple question only you will be able to answer.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Michael January 7th 05 12:24 AM


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael wrote:

"Joe Analssandrini" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi Ace,

Michael heard the ID but wasn't sure what he heard. Portuguese is a
little tough if you're not familiar with its "sound."

Do you remember "La Voz do Occident?" (I'm sure my spelling is off.)
Best,

Sure do... And thanx for setting Ace straight :-)

If he thought that he set me straight, he was mistaken. You did not
indicate
that you heard an ID, and for him to state that you did is just plain
crazy, how
would he know, based upon your post?


Did you not see this line in quotes below ??? Or perhaps you responded
before you could read my second post....

"Thanx for the confirmation. I heard them ID, but I wasn't 100 % sure of
what I heard."


Your second post never arrived here...

But if you did indeed hear them ID, then why did you ask in the first
place?


Try reading the line from the second post again that I have in quotes
above... I do not speak the language and was unsure of what I heard. Why
bother having a sw news group if legitimate on topic questions and answers
are going to be mocked and invalidated by others ???

Michael




dxAce January 7th 05 12:30 AM



Michael wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael wrote:

"Joe Analssandrini" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi Ace,

Michael heard the ID but wasn't sure what he heard. Portuguese is a
little tough if you're not familiar with its "sound."

Do you remember "La Voz do Occident?" (I'm sure my spelling is off.)
Best,

Sure do... And thanx for setting Ace straight :-)

If he thought that he set me straight, he was mistaken. You did not
indicate
that you heard an ID, and for him to state that you did is just plain
crazy, how
would he know, based upon your post?


Did you not see this line in quotes below ??? Or perhaps you responded
before you could read my second post....

"Thanx for the confirmation. I heard them ID, but I wasn't 100 % sure of
what I heard."


Your second post never arrived here...

But if you did indeed hear them ID, then why did you ask in the first
place?


Try reading the line from the second post again that I have in quotes
above... I do not speak the language and was unsure of what I heard. Why
bother having a sw news group if legitimate on topic questions and answers
are going to be mocked and invalidated by others ???


I'm not mocking or invalidating anything. Perhaps YOU need to go back and read
MY original post.

Bottom line, had you indeed ID'd it, you would not have had to ask the original
question.

Pretty simple, in my view.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Michael January 7th 05 12:44 AM


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael wrote:

"Joe Analssandrini" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi Ace,

Michael heard the ID but wasn't sure what he heard. Portuguese is
a
little tough if you're not familiar with its "sound."

Do you remember "La Voz do Occident?" (I'm sure my spelling is
off.)
Best,

Sure do... And thanx for setting Ace straight :-)

If he thought that he set me straight, he was mistaken. You did not
indicate
that you heard an ID, and for him to state that you did is just
plain
crazy, how
would he know, based upon your post?


Did you not see this line in quotes below ??? Or perhaps you
responded
before you could read my second post....

"Thanx for the confirmation. I heard them ID, but I wasn't 100 % sure
of
what I heard."

Your second post never arrived here...

But if you did indeed hear them ID, then why did you ask in the first
place?


Try reading the line from the second post again that I have in quotes
above... I do not speak the language and was unsure of what I heard.
Why
bother having a sw news group if legitimate on topic questions and
answers
are going to be mocked and invalidated by others ???


I'm not mocking or invalidating anything. Perhaps YOU need to go back and
read
MY original post.

Bottom line, had you indeed ID'd it, you would not have had to ask the
original
question.


Yes.... Exactly... If I was sure of what I heard I'd have wrapped up my
ID. I was not 100 % sure as you now know, and I decided to post the
question in hopes that I would get further confirmation of what I thought I
was hearing from other ng posters.... Your antagonistic post stated that I
should "actually try listening". Your response would suggest to me that you
think I did not or would not try listening to ID it myself. I did indeed
try listening and I did indeed hear them ID, but I was unsure of what they
said. I also checked the Passport blue pages too, which gave me further
indication that it was Radio Nacional Da Amazonia. What is wrong with
posting my question to help confirm the log and why do you assume I did not
try listening ???

Michael




dxAce January 7th 05 12:56 AM



Michael wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael wrote:

"Joe Analssandrini" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi Ace,

Michael heard the ID but wasn't sure what he heard. Portuguese is
a
little tough if you're not familiar with its "sound."

Do you remember "La Voz do Occident?" (I'm sure my spelling is
off.)
Best,

Sure do... And thanx for setting Ace straight :-)

If he thought that he set me straight, he was mistaken. You did not
indicate
that you heard an ID, and for him to state that you did is just
plain
crazy, how
would he know, based upon your post?


Did you not see this line in quotes below ??? Or perhaps you
responded
before you could read my second post....

"Thanx for the confirmation. I heard them ID, but I wasn't 100 % sure
of
what I heard."

Your second post never arrived here...

But if you did indeed hear them ID, then why did you ask in the first
place?


Try reading the line from the second post again that I have in quotes
above... I do not speak the language and was unsure of what I heard.
Why
bother having a sw news group if legitimate on topic questions and
answers
are going to be mocked and invalidated by others ???


I'm not mocking or invalidating anything. Perhaps YOU need to go back and
read
MY original post.

Bottom line, had you indeed ID'd it, you would not have had to ask the
original
question.


Yes.... Exactly... If I was sure of what I heard I'd have wrapped up my
ID. I was not 100 % sure as you now know, and I decided to post the
question in hopes that I would get further confirmation of what I thought I
was hearing from other ng posters.... Your antagonistic post stated that I
should "actually try listening". Your response would suggest to me that you
think I did not or would not try listening to ID it myself. I did indeed
try listening and I did indeed hear them ID, but I was unsure of what they
said. I also checked the Passport blue pages too, which gave me further
indication that it was Radio Nacional Da Amazonia. What is wrong with
posting my question to help confirm the log and why do you assume I did not
try listening ???


Now I'm simply LMAO at you.

Give it up.

Boggling.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




Michael January 7th 05 01:16 AM


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael wrote:

"Joe Analssandrini" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi Ace,

Michael heard the ID but wasn't sure what he heard. Portuguese
is
a
little tough if you're not familiar with its "sound."

Do you remember "La Voz do Occident?" (I'm sure my spelling is
off.)
Best,

Sure do... And thanx for setting Ace straight :-)

If he thought that he set me straight, he was mistaken. You did
not
indicate
that you heard an ID, and for him to state that you did is just
plain
crazy, how
would he know, based upon your post?


Did you not see this line in quotes below ??? Or perhaps you
responded
before you could read my second post....

"Thanx for the confirmation. I heard them ID, but I wasn't 100 %
sure
of
what I heard."

Your second post never arrived here...

But if you did indeed hear them ID, then why did you ask in the
first
place?


Try reading the line from the second post again that I have in quotes
above... I do not speak the language and was unsure of what I heard.
Why
bother having a sw news group if legitimate on topic questions and
answers
are going to be mocked and invalidated by others ???

I'm not mocking or invalidating anything. Perhaps YOU need to go back
and
read
MY original post.

Bottom line, had you indeed ID'd it, you would not have had to ask the
original
question.


Yes.... Exactly... If I was sure of what I heard I'd have wrapped up
my
ID. I was not 100 % sure as you now know, and I decided to post the
question in hopes that I would get further confirmation of what I thought
I
was hearing from other ng posters.... Your antagonistic post stated that
I
should "actually try listening". Your response would suggest to me that
you
think I did not or would not try listening to ID it myself. I did indeed
try listening and I did indeed hear them ID, but I was unsure of what
they
said. I also checked the Passport blue pages too, which gave me further
indication that it was Radio Nacional Da Amazonia. What is wrong with
posting my question to help confirm the log and why do you assume I did
not
try listening ???


Now I'm simply LMAO at you.

Give it up.


Running for the cover of misdirection now, are we ???



dxAce January 7th 05 01:21 AM



Michael wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael wrote:

"Joe Analssandrini" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi Ace,

Michael heard the ID but wasn't sure what he heard. Portuguese
is
a
little tough if you're not familiar with its "sound."

Do you remember "La Voz do Occident?" (I'm sure my spelling is
off.)
Best,

Sure do... And thanx for setting Ace straight :-)

If he thought that he set me straight, he was mistaken. You did
not
indicate
that you heard an ID, and for him to state that you did is just
plain
crazy, how
would he know, based upon your post?


Did you not see this line in quotes below ??? Or perhaps you
responded
before you could read my second post....

"Thanx for the confirmation. I heard them ID, but I wasn't 100 %
sure
of
what I heard."

Your second post never arrived here...

But if you did indeed hear them ID, then why did you ask in the
first
place?


Try reading the line from the second post again that I have in quotes
above... I do not speak the language and was unsure of what I heard.
Why
bother having a sw news group if legitimate on topic questions and
answers
are going to be mocked and invalidated by others ???

I'm not mocking or invalidating anything. Perhaps YOU need to go back
and
read
MY original post.

Bottom line, had you indeed ID'd it, you would not have had to ask the
original
question.


Yes.... Exactly... If I was sure of what I heard I'd have wrapped up
my
ID. I was not 100 % sure as you now know, and I decided to post the
question in hopes that I would get further confirmation of what I thought
I
was hearing from other ng posters.... Your antagonistic post stated that
I
should "actually try listening". Your response would suggest to me that
you
think I did not or would not try listening to ID it myself. I did indeed
try listening and I did indeed hear them ID, but I was unsure of what
they
said. I also checked the Passport blue pages too, which gave me further
indication that it was Radio Nacional Da Amazonia. What is wrong with
posting my question to help confirm the log and why do you assume I did
not
try listening ???


Now I'm simply LMAO at you.

Give it up.


Running for the cover of misdirection now, are we ???


Hey, it's your dream...

Have fun and imagine what you will.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



m II January 7th 05 04:43 AM

Michael wrote:

Now I'm simply LMAO at you.

Give it up.



Running for the cover of misdirection now, are we ???


You should feel blessed. If he really gets upset, he does a 'LMFAO' and
calls you a 'tard. His shadow 'beerbrain' usually follows right in step with
an echo of the insults.

The 'Ace has been like that since the incident with the toilet at the Army
base. His Platoon collectively slammed the seat on his head while he was
trying to get a drink. He's never recovered and now gets a lifelong
disability at the taxpayers' expense.

Being nice to him seems to make no difference





mike

bpnjensen January 7th 05 04:05 PM

Michael - dxAce does sometimes come across as terse and mocking,
whether intended or not. His online persona *appears* to be slightly
impatient. After awhile, you can learn to get used to it, accept it,
and extract from it whatever good information there is - and there is
often quite a bit. Once you get beyond the affectation, it all settles
into place.

Rest assured that, for most of us, your post made sense.

Brasilia has been a powerhouse on 11780 now for awhile. After some
years' absence, when I first restarted the radio hobby back in 2001, I
was surprised by the potency of its signal compared to the
mini-Brazilians I had heard in the past. Too bad RAE Bueno Aires on
11710 cannot do as well - it's signal, formerly a good one, is tough
these days.

Not only that, but I have noticed that especially when the solar storm
levels become high and polar propagation is subdued, the tropical and
trans-equatorial routes seem to be enhanced. Then, Brazil comes
through even better, and the itty bitty stations from CA and SA (and
Africa too) become more listenable. YMMV depending on latitude and
location.

Bruce Jensen


Michael January 7th 05 10:31 PM


"bpnjensen" wrote in message
oups.com...
Michael - dxAce does sometimes come across as terse and mocking,
whether intended or not.


I know that full well... I've been reading and posting here for a few years
:-) This is just the first time I decided to Pi$$ back.

Respectfully,

Michael



Telamon January 8th 05 05:25 AM

In article ,
"Michael" wrote:

"bpnjensen" wrote in message
oups.com...
Michael - dxAce does sometimes come across as terse and mocking,
whether intended or not.


I know that full well... I've been reading and posting here for a few years
:-) This is just the first time I decided to Pi$$ back.


Was it worth it?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

bpnjensen January 10th 05 03:54 PM

I think it may be partially because dxAce often uses a real economy of
words. Most of the time, there is something to be said for that.
Bruce Jensen



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