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The Doctrine of Balaam

If one does a search of the King James Bible for the word Balaam he'll
get about fifty nine instances of the use of the word. A vast majority
of those instances will be found in three chapters of the Old Testament,
Numbers 22-24. This portion of the Christian Bible also happens to be a
part of the Pentateuch (first five books of the Bible) and is accepted
by some Jews. It is also part of the Jewish Torah. Therefore,
Christians and Jews should be familiar with this subject.

In Numbers 22-24 we learn that the Moabites feared the Children of
Israel and attempted to HIRE Balaam, a prophet of God, to CURSE the COI
Children of Israel. (Remember the Patriarchs? The fathers who ruled
their families. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are perhaps the best known of
the patriarchs; but Jacob's twelve sons were also patriarchs. So where
does the name "Children of Israel" come in? In Genesis 32:28, Jacob's
name was changed to Israel! Therefore, he is sometimes referred to as
Jacob/Israel and therefrom comes the phrase "Children of Israel" instead
of "Children of Jacob". So any time you hear the term Children of
Israel you are hearing about the descendants of the patriarchs Abraham,
Isaac and Jacob/Israel.

People often FEAR the things they don't understand. People often CURSE
the things they fear. They also FEAR some of the things they DO
understand.

Balak sought to BRIBE Balaam into CURSING the children of Israel, about
1,000,000 plus strong. These are the same people who went down to Egypt
as about 70 people, the kin of Joseph, who was sold into Egypt as a
SLAVE. The scriptures tell us, in Numbers 22:15-18, "And Balak sent yet
again princes, more, and more honourable than they. And they came to
Balaam, and said to him, Thus saith Balak the son of Zippor, Let
nothing, I pray thee, hinder thee from coming unto me: For I will
promote thee unto very great honour, and I will do whatsoever thou
sayest unto me: come therefore, I pray thee, curse me this people. And
Balaam answered and said unto the servants of Balak, If Balak would give
me his house full of silver and gold, I cannot go beyond the word of the
LORD my God, to do less or more."

Notice. This king Balak promised the man of God, Balaam, very great
honor and whatever he wanted to CURSE these children of Israel. Balaam,
told him if he gave him a KING'S HOUSE, a PALACE, FULL OF SILVER AND
GOLD, he could only do as God commanded. It really appears that Balaam
didn't want to curse them. He even turned an attempted curse into a
blessing. However, Balaam REALLY WANTED those riches that Balak
promised him. The scriptures seem to imply here that Balaam went home
and did not curse God's people (Num. 24:25). HOWEVER, Balaam DID,
through Balak, curse the children of Israel and, we read in Joshua
13:22, they killed him.

I don't want to minimize the FACT that God turned the curse into a
blessing. This is mentioned more than once in the Scriptures. However,
Balaam is also mentioned in connection with the "wages of
unrighteousness" (2 Peter 2:15), the "error of Balaam" - Jude 1:11 and
the "doctrine of Balaam" in Revelation 2:14.

Rev. 2:14, KJV, "But I have a few things against thee, because thou
hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to
cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things
sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication."

Notice that Balaam cursed the Children of Israel, temporarily, by
TEACHING BALAK to cast a stumbling block before them by getting them to
eat things sacrificed to idols and to commit fornication.

This is were the "Doctrine of Balaam" comes in and also were the
Antiquities of the Jews by Flavius Josephus comes in. Josephus tells us
HOW Balaam instructed Balak to curse the children of Israel. This seems
to be supported and reinforced by the references in Second Peter, Jude
and Revelation.

I'll give you a hint, a clue, a tip to save you some time. The Works of
Josephus is a pretty big read for one sitting. Go to Antiquities of the
Jews, Book IV, Chapter 6. He goes into great detail on how to seduce
the children of Israel.

POINT: Do you ever wonder WHY the media, supported by the courts in the
name of free speech, promotes so much ludeness and vulgarity? I'll give
you a hint. "The Doctrine of Balaam !"

Al

Al Patrick wrote:...(Jesus blah blah)

How long have ya'll had this nutball posting?

"Al Patrick" wrote in message
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If one does a search of the King James Bible for the word Balaam he'll get
about fifty nine instances of the use of the word. A vast majority
SNIP!

POINT: Do you ever wonder WHY the media, supported by the courts in the
name of free speech, promotes so much ludeness and vulgarity? I'll give
you a hint. "The Doctrine of Balaam !"

Al

Enough of that, Al -- Hurry up and get to the part where Moses ties his ass
to a tree and walks up the mountain! That HAD to be something to see.

-- Stinger

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David Stinson wrote:

Al Patrick wrote:...(Jesus blah blah)

How long have ya'll had this nutball posting?

I don't know; I haven't been here that long. Al basically believes
everything the kooks on domestic US SW say; he's a great way to see what
the kooks are talking about without actually having to listen. He
particularly follows Pete Peters closely.

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"David Stinson" wrote in message
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Al Patrick wrote:...(Jesus blah blah)

How long have ya'll had this nutball posting?

Where you been Dave! Als been here in RRS for years and it wouldn't be the
same without him.

B.H.

Brian Hill wrote:
Where you been Dave! Als been here in RRS for years and it wouldn't be the
same without him.

Sure wish I could be a "spirit on the wall" when he finds out
there ain't no Jesus- just the big, black empty.

running dogg wrote:
I don't know; I haven't been here that long. Al basically believes
everything the kooks on domestic US SW say; he's a great way to see what
the kooks are talking about without actually having to listen. He
particularly follows Pete Peters closely.

What ever happened to the Hal Turner swar-reee?
He still cranking up the cranks?

"David Stinson" wrote in message
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Brian Hill wrote:
Where you been Dave! Als been here in RRS for years and it wouldn't be
the
same without him.

Sure wish I could be a "spirit on the wall" when he finds out
there ain't no Jesus- just the big, black empty.

Well there may be no Jesus, but there's one hell of allot of aliens running
around and that leaves a whole lot of stuff for old Al to post on RRS. :)

B.H.

"David Stinson" wrote in message
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| Al Patrick wrote:...(Jesus blah blah)
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| How long have ya'll had this nutball posting?

Years, that's for sure.

73,

--
Steve Lawrence
KAØPMD
Burnsville, Minnesota

"If a man wants his dreams to come true then he must wake up."
- Anonymous

"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message
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"David Stinson" wrote in message
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| Al Patrick wrote:...(Jesus blah blah)
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| How long have ya'll had this nutball posting?

Years, that's for sure.

73,

--
Steve Lawrence
KAØPMD
Burnsville, Minnesota

"If a man wants his dreams to come true then he must wake up."
- Anonymous

Where the heck you been Steve? Fishin?

B.H.

Stinger wrote:

Enough of that, Al -- Hurry up and get to the part where Moses ties his ass
to a tree and walks up the mountain! That HAD to be something to see.

I haven't heard that since grade five.

Another favourite was:

"Moses, come forth" said the Lord and yea, was deeply hurt when Moses
finished fifth.

mike

I'd call myself a bible person. It's hit and miss in regards to Al's
postings. This one appeals to me. Darren

http://community-2.webtv.net/DEMEM/L...mes/page2.html

running dogg wrote:
David Stinson wrote:

Al Patrick wrote:...(Jesus blah blah)

How long have ya'll had this nutball posting?

I don't know; I haven't been here that long. Al basically believes
everything the kooks on domestic US SW say; he's a great way to see what
the kooks are talking about without actually having to listen. He
particularly follows Pete Peters closely.

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Balaam's ass is the only animal in the bible capable of
speech, other than the unfortunate incident involving Eve and the serpent.

The next known occurrence of a talking ass is Al Patrick.

"Brian Hill" wrote in message
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| "Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message
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| Years, that's for sure.
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| 73,
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| Steve Lawrence
| KAØPMD
| Burnsville, Minnesota
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| "If a man wants his dreams to come true then he must wake up."
| - Anonymous
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| Where the heck you been Steve? Fishin?
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| B.H.

Working, working, and working, actually, Brian. The market's
in great shape, and I've been making hay while the sun shines.

Speaking of fishing, I may be going over to Lake Minnetonka
to try and hook some crappies this (Sunday) afternoon. I think
I'm going to use some crappie jigs on the ole ultralight (which
I think I'm going to have to put new line on - does the work ever
end?)

73,

--
Steve Lawrence
KAØPMD
Burnsville, Minnesota

"If a man wants his dreams to come true then he must wake up."
- Anonymous

Your in the wrong newsgroup! Duh!

You may want to spend some time reading: http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/
Welcome to Enlightenment!

"Al Patrick" wrote in message
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If one does a search of the King James Bible for the word Balaam he'll
get about fifty nine instances of the use of the word.

Gee folks! ....and all this time I thought that "Balaam" was a
store-brand product you get at CVS to relieve hemorhoids.

You learn something new every day on r.r.s. : )

http://www.rathergood.com/seepage/

"Al Patrick" wrote in message
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Don't you fellows forget that "The Doctrine of Balaam" comes about as
much from The Antiquities of the Jews, by Flavius Josephus, a Jew, as it
does from the Bible. ;-)

Flavius Josphus was winding baluns way back then? Those Jews really did
know all the secrets!

Frank Dresser

In article atcEd.6872$eb.4744@trndny01,
Larry Ozarow wrote:

running dogg wrote:
David Stinson wrote:

Al Patrick wrote:...(Jesus blah blah)

How long have ya'll had this nutball posting?

I don't know; I haven't been here that long. Al basically believes
everything the kooks on domestic US SW say; he's a great way to see what
the kooks are talking about without actually having to listen. He
particularly follows Pete Peters closely.

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Balaam's ass is the only animal in the bible capable of
speech, other than the unfortunate incident involving Eve and the serpent.

The next known occurrence of a talking ass is Al Patrick.

No that's Tom Betz, known as the talking ass of RRS. It's the only form
of speech Tom knows.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

You might want to spend some time visiting, REALITY.
cuhulin
(I been to China before,, three times,,, them China gals aren't "bad" at
all :{)

You might want to spend some time visiting, REALITY.
cuhulin
(I been to China before,, three times,,, them China gals aren't "bad" at
all :{)

I'v been all around the world and I havn't found a seriously flawed one yet.
Until I came back home :()

Who gives a rats ass?

"potatoe speeches" wrote in message
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"Al Patrick" wrote in message
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If one does a search of the King James Bible for the word Balaam he'll
get about fifty nine instances of the use of the word.

Gee folks! ....and all this time I thought that "Balaam" was a
store-brand product you get at CVS to relieve hemorhoids.

You learn something new every day on r.r.s. : )

http://www.rathergood.com/seepage/

Al Patrick wrote:
This portion of the Christian Bible
also happens to be a part of the Pentateuch (first five books of the
Bible) and is accepted by some Jews.

Al:
The old testament cannot be called the Christian bible. It was written by
Jews, for Jews, and long before Christ. Did you think King James wrote it?

BTW, Can't you stick to shortwave?

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

Brian Denley wrote:

BTW, Can't you stick to shortwave?

Looks like you didn't. Must have had some extra time to waste. ;-)