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The BBC "noise" is back
I just tuned into the BBC (it's just after 0300 UTC as I write this) and
both 5975 and 9525 are covered up by that noise again. The one that sounds like it's flourescent light QRM. The one that suddenly appeared just after Christmas, then disappeared just after New Years, but now is back. Whoever is doing this is quite close, RF wise, to my Northern California location; I hear the noise even when I have the radio in a position that is usually a "dead spot". It totally wipes out the BBC's signal. I'm SURE this isn't a mixing product or front end overloading; it doesn't appear on the stations on either side of the BBC's channel. Is anybody else hearing this? I know that Arnie and Mark Zenier heard it last time, so I'm not going crazy. Tune in to the BBC on 5975 and 9525 around 0300, just to see if you hear it. I'd like to know if more easterly DXers like Ace can hear this and what they make of it. |
HAARP?
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 19:20:37 -0800, running dogg wrote: I just tuned into the BBC (it's just after 0300 UTC as I write this) and both 5975 and 9525 are covered up by that noise again. The one that sounds like it's flourescent light QRM. The one that suddenly appeared just after Christmas, then disappeared just after New Years, but now is back. Whoever is doing this is quite close, RF wise, to my Northern California location; I hear the noise even when I have the radio in a position that is usually a "dead spot". It totally wipes out the BBC's signal. I'm SURE this isn't a mixing product or front end overloading; it doesn't appear on the stations on either side of the BBC's channel. Is anybody else hearing this? I know that Arnie and Mark Zenier heard it last time, so I'm not going crazy. Tune in to the BBC on 5975 and 9525 around 0300, just to see if you hear it. I'd like to know if more easterly DXers like Ace can hear this and what they make of it. |
In article , running dogg wrote:
I just tuned into the BBC (it's just after 0300 UTC as I write this) and both 5975 and 9525 are covered up by that noise again. The one that sounds like it's flourescent light QRM. The one that suddenly appeared just after Christmas, then disappeared just after New Years, but now is back. Whoever is doing this is quite close, RF wise, to my Northern California location; I hear the noise even when I have the radio in a position that is usually a "dead spot". It totally wipes out the BBC's signal. I'm SURE this isn't a mixing product or front end overloading; it doesn't appear on the stations on either side of the BBC's channel. Is anybody else hearing this? I know that Arnie and Mark Zenier heard it last time, so I'm not going crazy. Tune in to the BBC on 5975 and 9525 around 0300, just to see if you hear it. I'd like to know if more easterly DXers like Ace can hear this and what they make of it. So, "tote your portable ;-)". Well, I mean that in the real sense of taking a radio around your neighborhood and seeing if it's local or outside the area. If you don't have a portable shortwave, see if you can pick it up on the high end of the AM band. Back when I really had a problem, I found that it was the neighbor's line doubled back projection TV when somebody was playing with the game console. (That, and a corroded antenna wire). The stuff I get now sounds like one or more computer monitor or TV horizontal scan circuits, so I expect that one of the neighbors is leaving their TV on. Or got a new set or 'puter for Xmas. Since they run on (sort of) standard frequencies, the interference can seem the same all around the world, but comes from a multitude of local sources instead of one very powerful distant one. (OTOH, if it's drifty, suspect those damn compact fluorescent lamps). 9525 has been so variable lately. Last Friday was strong all evening until signoff at 04:00, but other nights last week were just horrible. Makes me wonder if the folks in Florida let their antenna fall in the swamp over Xmas vacation. Keep track of the signal strength. The interference may be there all along but doesn't really have an impact unless the signals are down around S2-3. Mark Zenier Washington State resident |
I listened to the BBC on 5975 from 00:00~04:00 lastnight, 2005 01 09,
and the only interence I had was a Low Preasure Sodium outdoor light that is failing. It is about 300' from me and is getting worse every night. I guess I need to borrow a BB riffle. Terry |
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Telamon wrote: In article .com, wrote: I listened to the BBC on 5975 from 00:00~04:00 lastnight, 2005 01 09, and the only interence I had was a Low Preasure Sodium outdoor light that is failing. It is about 300' from me and is getting worse every night. I guess I need to borrow a BB riffle. Terry The electric company has a maintenance number for you to call or you can probably to go a web site and report the outage. Go out side and see if there is a pole number. If you can't find a number then just give an address it is in front of and a description of the problem such as cycling on and off. They fix the street lights around here in one to two days usually. Yep, and if it's a real problem the FCC requires them to get it fixed... my local power company spent over $5k this fall just to bring in a guy from Maryland to show the folks here how to find the problems I complain about! dxAce Michigan USA |
Been there done that. The last one failed
about 10 years ago and the utiltiy did nothing until it died completly. And the comment about a BB riffle was a joke. As far as trying to get the FCC to do anything, someone is smoking bad dope. The FCC is out of the enforcement business, unless of course a young lady manages to have a "Wardroboe malfunction", or a DJ gets too gross. We have some really cold weather moving in and that will kill it. It was warm the last 2 nights and the light worked OK. When the temp drops below freezing, it starts strobing, and the colder it gets, the faster the strobe. The last one went the same way. Terry |
The FCC may have rules on paper, but they don't
seem interested or able to enforce them. You are very luck your utiltiy even tries to "do right". As I pointed out in another post, the light will fail very soon now that some seriuos cold is coming. Terry |
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I have generally had no trouble getting malfunctioning streetlights
fixed within a few days here in California. Of course, here it is the County that has responsibility, not the electric company. Bruce Jensen |
!0 years ago I called the FCC filed office, found out
who was "responsable" and started trying to contact them. Repated voice mails, emails and regular snail mails did nothing but raise my blood preasure. I never got a response from the clown. While I was wsting time and energy a cold snap, 10F hit, and the damn bulb blew, like BANG, in less then an hour. I tried to carry on, but when I told the field engineer the noise had qui, he got very uncooperative. Told me there was no longer a problem and they (FCC) had real work to do. I even contacted the local US attourny and got a royal run around. At about the same time we had several fools in the central KY area using modified crossband ham transcievers to crossband state police comms into county PD freqs. Even the police couldn't get any action fromt he FCC. Now a nother local clow was running about 1.5KW(yea KW!) on and around 27MHz. He was causing severe TVI and when the TV stations complained, the FCC showed up 2 days later. Follow the money. We had troubl ewith local cable TV company running a leaky system. Thye ignored all complaints, and the FCC promised to get back with the local ham club. Yea, sure. The cable company runs several CW carriers to set the system gain and maintain EQ. On was around 52MHz. At my suggestion some of the local hams started a CW net on 52MHz. Drove the AGC amps nuts. They had to tighten thier system up to stay in business. At least the FCC now requires all cable comapies to monitor and log their leakage profile. The cable companies found it a good way to catch those who steal cable. They plot the leakage from every house in the system from a hour fly over. The FCC only gets invovlved when money is at risk. This was under El Jeffe Clinton. But a BB gun is much quiter...less likely to get the LEOs out in force. Terry |
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dxAce wrote:
wrote: As far as trying to get the FCC to do anything, someone is smoking bad dope. Not true at all. If you believe that, then YOU perhaps are smoking bad dope. It varies by field office. I've heard some areas get good cooperation and enforcement; the Chicago office traditionally takes action only when a strobe lamp is burned out on a land-mobile tower. -- The state religion of the USA is atheism, as established by the courts. |
Mark Zenier wrote:
In article , running dogg wrote: I just tuned into the BBC (it's just after 0300 UTC as I write this) and both 5975 and 9525 are covered up by that noise again. The one that sounds like it's flourescent light QRM. The one that suddenly appeared just after Christmas, then disappeared just after New Years, but now is back. Whoever is doing this is quite close, RF wise, to my Northern California location; I hear the noise even when I have the radio in a position that is usually a "dead spot". It totally wipes out the BBC's signal. I'm SURE this isn't a mixing product or front end overloading; it doesn't appear on the stations on either side of the BBC's channel. Is anybody else hearing this? I know that Arnie and Mark Zenier heard it last time, so I'm not going crazy. Tune in to the BBC on 5975 and 9525 around 0300, just to see if you hear it. I'd like to know if more easterly DXers like Ace can hear this and what they make of it. So, "tote your portable ;-)". Well, I mean that in the real sense of taking a radio around your neighborhood and seeing if it's local or outside the area. If you don't have a portable shortwave, see if you can pick it up on the high end of the AM band. Back when I really had a problem, I found that it was the neighbor's line doubled back projection TV when somebody was playing with the game console. (That, and a corroded antenna wire). I'm listening on a portable. The stuff I get now sounds like one or more computer monitor or TV horizontal scan circuits, so I expect that one of the neighbors is leaving their TV on. Or got a new set or 'puter for Xmas. Since they run on (sort of) standard frequencies, the interference can seem the same all around the world, but comes from a multitude of local sources instead of one very powerful distant one. (OTOH, if it's drifty, suspect those damn compact fluorescent lamps). I've been having severe interference all over 49m for months. (changing the subject a little bit) It's a steady hum. I'm not sure what it is. 9525 has been so variable lately. Last Friday was strong all evening until signoff at 04:00, but other nights last week were just horrible. Makes me wonder if the folks in Florida let their antenna fall in the swamp over Xmas vacation. It's 31m in general. I've noticed that Radio Havana on 9820 has been subject to such deep fading that it's almost impossible to make out what they're saying. 6000 too, but 9820 is really bad. The BBC's 9525 frequency does it as well, although their signal doesn't usually have the severe ups and downs that Cuba does. Keep track of the signal strength. The interference may be there all along but doesn't really have an impact unless the signals are down around S2-3. Mark Zenier Washington State resident |
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Only after dark.
And it is loudest right before it comes back on. Sort of buzzz.....BUZZZ...!!BUZZZ!!..buzz..silence for 2 or 3 minutes. Thne it goes out and the process starts over. It is going down to 4F Sunday, so I expect it to die. Terry |
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Running dogg, when you say "N. California location," where is that?
Near SF? I am near SF (East Bay) and I get scores of seemingly random noises across 5 - 10 MHz. 49m is especially bad for weird unidentifiable QRM. Some of it sweeps (moves up and down the frequency scale), or changes pitch while maintaiing a single RF. I get intermod junk from local 50kW MW stations. Bad in wet weather when the ground improves. I also get screwy stuff that just comes on and off. Some of it fades in and out like the HF signals, so some of it may be far away. Also get the usual streetlight junk, too - that's fixable. Bruce Jensen |
I remember seeing San Francisco in the early dawn light on our way back
to the land of the Big PX from Vietnam in December of 1964.I had stepped up to the U.S.Air Force Aircraft cockpit. 'tard' boy,who let you out of your closet? cuhulin |
Hey, screwloose, who you callin' 'tard boy? I asked an on-topic
reasonable question with some back up information, and that's the best you can do? BTW, get something original instead of borrowing insults from dxAce all the time (who ultimately borrows from God-knows-who) ;-). I get noise on SW *and* on RRS, I guess... Bruce Jensen |
bpnjensen wrote:
Running dogg, when you say "N. California location," where is that? Near SF? Sacramento. Close enough. I am near SF (East Bay) and I get scores of seemingly random noises across 5 - 10 MHz. 49m is especially bad for weird unidentifiable QRM. Some of it sweeps (moves up and down the frequency scale), or changes pitch while maintaiing a single RF. I know that practically the whole 49m band is filled with weird QRM at my location. It's so bad that the BBC is practically unlistenable most nights on 5975-I have to use 9525 even though that freq has problems of its own. I get intermod junk from local 50kW MW stations. Bad in wet weather when the ground improves. On 9525 I'll get some other signal that occasionally wipes out the BBC for several seconds at a time. Usually it's talking in Spanish, but a couple nights ago it was American sounding jazz music, sounded like that "soft jazz" muzak stuff that seems to be a popular FM format nowadays. The transmitting tower of a soft jazz FM stn is near my location. But that doesn't explain the Spanish. I also get screwy stuff that just comes on and off. Some of it fades in and out like the HF signals, so some of it may be far away. Also get the usual streetlight junk, too - that's fixable. Bruce Jensen |
TouchStone Energy, formerly RECC.
But the damn light went out a few minutes ago with a loud SPLAT that was loud inside our house. Ah, listen to the quite! Had to work late today running video tape, so I didn't get a cahnce to check this group during my missed afternnon break. I am very glad it went on and died because I intend to use the upcoming three day weekend to test an idea I have for a "better" feedline. "Big Time TV" cameras use Triax. Similar to Coax, but there are 2 isolated shields. At work we had a MAJOR cleanup and I have about 80' of slightly used Triax. (I think Triax is a registered trade mark). I suspect that some noise is creeping back up my feedline to get into the antenna. I have placed enough feritte split cores on my equipment to pose a hazard to the compasses in overhead aircraft! But I still have a few birdies that vanish when I kill my PC. If this works I will try to write it up. "Noise ingress", BT TV's term, is a major problem for high end studio and field TV cameras. Triax is very good at surpressing ingress. Of course the temps are going to be about 4F, but antennas allways work better if you suffer errecting them! BTW I have friends who used to work in a repair shop and they salvaged all of the supresion cores from dead equipment. I have a "whole bunch". The more you add the better the results. I have been tempted a time or two to pull the feritte rod frm my McKay DA5 MW loop, it has an ~1/8" hole lengthwise and it is about 10" long. But tempted as I am,I have resisted. So far. At least the bug zappers are quite this time of year. Next on my insane noise reduction list is to add filtering at every AC outlet and across every light switch. I have found that a 0.1Ceramic cap, with a 1 Ohm carbon film resistor in seires will quiten the mains nicely. My insurance company and the local fire department insist the caps be placed in a "sturdy" metal box. I plan on using the micro Altoid tins, spot soldered, protected by fiberglass tubing, with the leads protected by flame proof heat shrink. The 1 Ohm resistor makes a dandy fuse. I hope to add feritte cores as I go. Everyone already knew I was crazy, right? Terry |
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PCYPHER. I am Busy now,, flirtin with some Irish wimmins in Ireland via the enterhernet. cuhulin |
Not HAARP. XM and Sirius paying the FCC. The satilite radio market
shut down BBC to the western hemisphere. My suggestion is to keep broadcasting! SW and DX have been here long before these guys showed up and SW and DX will still be here! Keep broadcasting. Just don't air any of that religious stuff. That is kinda the main reason SW never caught on. 50 stations of religous broadcasting and not one station plays Stairway to Heaven. |
Bruce, their retorts are generic & unimaginative! Most even revel in their
ignorance! To paraphrase Bill of Stratford, they "signify nothing"! ... As for your B.B.C. drownout, do you have overhead power lines which also carry cable delivery? Digital cable harmonics might be your enemy. Back in Jan. of ' 01, when tuning into Ticket 1050 for the Raiders/Ravens A.F.C. Championship game(seems ages ago), got an intermittant piercing buzz on 1.050mhz(& harmonic multiples). Trying to switch sidebands on the Sony 2010 did't cure that interference. Complained to the local cable company to no avail. For whatever reason, it finally ceased in early '03! If that rfi was a portent of what powerline-delivered broadband will curse us with, God help swls all! Have noticed, though, that B.B.C. Africa Service on 6.005mhz from Ascencion Island gets a similar buzz-out to what you're refering to here in Sactown. |
Coccoon, you've provided more than enough evidence you're a professional punk
bitch grasping for asshole aspirations! Furthur cementing your ignant sack-o-**** status, were you really in da Force, you'da landed in either Hamilton A.F.B. in Marin County or Travis A.F.B. in Solano County. Not S.F. International! Ya played yerself, semon swiller!!! I remember seeing San Francisco in the early dawn light on our way back to the land of the Big PX from Vietnam in December of 1964.I had stepped up to the U.S.Air Force Aircraft cockpit. I remember seeing San Francisco in the early dawn light on our way back to the land of the Big PX from Vietnam in December of 1964.I had stepped up to the U.S.Air Force Aircraft cockpit. |
elg110254 wrote: Coccoon, you've provided more than enough evidence you're a professional punk bitch grasping for asshole aspirations! Furthur cementing your ignant sack-o-**** status, were you really in da Force, you'da landed in either Hamilton A.F.B. in Marin County or Travis A.F.B. in Solano County. Not S.F. International! Ya played yerself, semon swiller!!! I remember seeing San Francisco in the early dawn light on our way back to the land of the Big PX from Vietnam in December of 1964.I had stepped up to the U.S.Air Force Aircraft cockpit. I remember seeing San Francisco in the early dawn light on our way back to the land of the Big PX from Vietnam in December of 1964.I had stepped up to the U.S.Air Force Aircraft cockpit. Did he say he landed at San Francisco? I can't recall. Or did he just say that he 'saw' San Fransisco. dxAce Michigan USA |
Gee,thanks for your "nice comments". The Airplane I went to Vietnam in
the first week of 1964 was a Pan American Airplane.We took off from San Francisco Airport at around 11:00 PM that night and we stopped at Anchorage Airport for breakfast and so the Airplane could refuel,I remember seeing a big stuffed Polar Bear in the lounge area at Anchorage Airport.From Anchorage we stopped at Hong Kong Airport for about half an hour and then on our way to Tan Son Nhut Airport a few miles North of Saigon.The next morning we were on our way to Can Tho to have our paperwork filed there.We spent the night at Can Tho and then to Shannon Wright Compound near Ving Long.I spent one year in Vietnam www.114thaviationcompany.com and on our way back to America,we came back to San Francisco Airport in a U.S.Air Force Airplane,(Pan American Aircraft had been banned by then because of Vietcong attacks) we spent the night at Yokota,U.S.Air Force Base in Japan.I spent four days and nights at Oakland Army Terminal,Oakland,California waiting on going to Vietnam.I was at Shannon Wright Compound for about three months and I got transfered to Tan Son Nhut,same Company. www.tsna.org The same year,my brother (he was eight years older than I am) was a Helicopter Mechanic at Vung Tau,his second Tour Of Duty in Vietnam following a year in Germany.I did not get Drafted,I joined the U.S.Army on October 28,1962.I did my three years in the U.S.Army and I went back to civilian life. ........D-Day Larry |
You are not the first to spit on me and curse me for serving my Country.
cuhulin |
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