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Sanjaya January 13th 05 12:04 AM

eBay bans use of the word "Degen"
 
I saw at http://www.radiointel.com that Liypn told Russ
eBay has stopped allowing the word "Degen" to appear
on eBay auctions, due to a complaint by Degen. Not much
information other than that.

I went to eBay and checked Liypn's auctions. Sure enough
he's selling DE1103s etc. with no mention of "Degen". Then
I checked Brochhi's stuff. He's still using the Degen name.

Here's what it says at radiointel.com:

Ebay Bans The Use Of The Word "Degen" On Auctions
Thanks to Ebay seller Liypn we learn that Ebay as prohibited
the use of the word "Degen" on their auction site. This is result of a
complaint filed by Degen GmbH Communication with Ebay as
unauthorized use of intellectual property rights, copyright, trademark, etc.

Does anyone know why this happened?




dxAce January 13th 05 12:15 AM



Sanjaya wrote:

I saw at http://www.radiointel.com that Liypn told Russ
eBay has stopped allowing the word "Degen" to appear
on eBay auctions, due to a complaint by Degen. Not much
information other than that.

I went to eBay and checked Liypn's auctions. Sure enough
he's selling DE1103s etc. with no mention of "Degen". Then
I checked Brochhi's stuff. He's still using the Degen name.

Here's what it says at radiointel.com:

Ebay Bans The Use Of The Word "Degen" On Auctions
Thanks to Ebay seller Liypn we learn that Ebay as prohibited
the use of the word "Degen" on their auction site. This is result of a
complaint filed by Degen GmbH Communication with Ebay as
unauthorized use of intellectual property rights, copyright, trademark, etc.

Does anyone know why this happened?


That's interesting. It would appear that that company of course is in Germany and
looks as though they have nothing to do with 'Degen' radios per se. So one gets
into copyright, trademarks etc.

So it looks like a simple case of a trade name dispute and since eBay does
business in Deutscheland perhaps they felt it best to remove it.

The Chinese perhaps are not to good at respecting trade names?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Sanjaya January 13th 05 12:23 AM


"dxAce" wrote in message ...


Sanjaya wrote:

I saw at http://www.radiointel.com that Liypn told Russ
eBay has stopped allowing the word "Degen" to appear
on eBay auctions, due to a complaint by Degen. Not much
information other than that.

I went to eBay and checked Liypn's auctions. Sure enough
he's selling DE1103s etc. with no mention of "Degen". Then
I checked Brochhi's stuff. He's still using the Degen name.

Here's what it says at radiointel.com:

Ebay Bans The Use Of The Word "Degen" On Auctions
Thanks to Ebay seller Liypn we learn that Ebay as prohibited
the use of the word "Degen" on their auction site. This is result of a
complaint filed by Degen GmbH Communication with Ebay as
unauthorized use of intellectual property rights, copyright, trademark, etc.

Does anyone know why this happened?


That's interesting. It would appear that that company of course is in Germany and
looks as though they have nothing to do with 'Degen' radios per se. So one gets
into copyright, trademarks etc.

So it looks like a simple case of a trade name dispute and since eBay does
business in Deutscheland perhaps they felt it best to remove it.

The Chinese perhaps are not to good at respecting trade names?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



So maybe they'll choose a new name?
I hope it's not like the sewing machine thing.
A US marketing expert went to China to help
them get off the ground with selling a new
sewing machine.
He asked the company chief what the brand name of
the sewing machine would be.
The honcho said "Typical. Typical Sewing Machines."
Trying not to laugh the marketing guy asked,
"Why would you name the brand 'Typical'?"
Without hesitating, the Chinese entrepeneur responded,
"Why not? You have 'Standard' Oil."



dxAce January 13th 05 12:31 AM



Sanjaya wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message ...


Sanjaya wrote:

I saw at http://www.radiointel.com that Liypn told Russ
eBay has stopped allowing the word "Degen" to appear
on eBay auctions, due to a complaint by Degen. Not much
information other than that.

I went to eBay and checked Liypn's auctions. Sure enough
he's selling DE1103s etc. with no mention of "Degen". Then
I checked Brochhi's stuff. He's still using the Degen name.

Here's what it says at radiointel.com:

Ebay Bans The Use Of The Word "Degen" On Auctions
Thanks to Ebay seller Liypn we learn that Ebay as prohibited
the use of the word "Degen" on their auction site. This is result of a
complaint filed by Degen GmbH Communication with Ebay as
unauthorized use of intellectual property rights, copyright, trademark, etc.

Does anyone know why this happened?


That's interesting. It would appear that that company of course is in Germany and
looks as though they have nothing to do with 'Degen' radios per se. So one gets
into copyright, trademarks etc.

So it looks like a simple case of a trade name dispute and since eBay does
business in Deutscheland perhaps they felt it best to remove it.

The Chinese perhaps are not to good at respecting trade names?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



So maybe they'll choose a new name?
I hope it's not like the sewing machine thing.
A US marketing expert went to China to help
them get off the ground with selling a new
sewing machine.
He asked the company chief what the brand name of
the sewing machine would be.
The honcho said "Typical. Typical Sewing Machines."
Trying not to laugh the marketing guy asked,
"Why would you name the brand 'Typical'?"
Without hesitating, the Chinese entrepeneur responded,
"Why not? You have 'Standard' Oil."


I would put forth the 'Dang' trademark.

Then one can say... I've got a Dang 1103...

And someone else could respond... That's cool, but my Dang 1107 is better.

And so it goes.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Sanjaya January 13th 05 12:35 AM


"dxAce" wrote in message ...


Sanjaya wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message ...


Sanjaya wrote:

I saw at http://www.radiointel.com that Liypn told Russ
eBay has stopped allowing the word "Degen" to appear
on eBay auctions, due to a complaint by Degen. Not much
information other than that.

I went to eBay and checked Liypn's auctions. Sure enough
he's selling DE1103s etc. with no mention of "Degen". Then
I checked Brochhi's stuff. He's still using the Degen name.

Here's what it says at radiointel.com:

Ebay Bans The Use Of The Word "Degen" On Auctions
Thanks to Ebay seller Liypn we learn that Ebay as prohibited
the use of the word "Degen" on their auction site. This is result of a
complaint filed by Degen GmbH Communication with Ebay as
unauthorized use of intellectual property rights, copyright, trademark, etc.

Does anyone know why this happened?

That's interesting. It would appear that that company of course is in Germany and
looks as though they have nothing to do with 'Degen' radios per se. So one gets
into copyright, trademarks etc.

So it looks like a simple case of a trade name dispute and since eBay does
business in Deutscheland perhaps they felt it best to remove it.

The Chinese perhaps are not to good at respecting trade names?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



So maybe they'll choose a new name?
I hope it's not like the sewing machine thing.
A US marketing expert went to China to help
them get off the ground with selling a new
sewing machine.
He asked the company chief what the brand name of
the sewing machine would be.
The honcho said "Typical. Typical Sewing Machines."
Trying not to laugh the marketing guy asked,
"Why would you name the brand 'Typical'?"
Without hesitating, the Chinese entrepeneur responded,
"Why not? You have 'Standard' Oil."


I would put forth the 'Dang' trademark.

Then one can say... I've got a Dang 1103...

And someone else could respond... That's cool, but my Dang 1107 is better.

And so it goes.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



LOL
I love it!!!



dxAce January 13th 05 12:37 AM



dxAce wrote:

Sanjaya wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message ...


Sanjaya wrote:

I saw at http://www.radiointel.com that Liypn told Russ
eBay has stopped allowing the word "Degen" to appear
on eBay auctions, due to a complaint by Degen. Not much
information other than that.

I went to eBay and checked Liypn's auctions. Sure enough
he's selling DE1103s etc. with no mention of "Degen". Then
I checked Brochhi's stuff. He's still using the Degen name.

Here's what it says at radiointel.com:

Ebay Bans The Use Of The Word "Degen" On Auctions
Thanks to Ebay seller Liypn we learn that Ebay as prohibited
the use of the word "Degen" on their auction site. This is result of a
complaint filed by Degen GmbH Communication with Ebay as
unauthorized use of intellectual property rights, copyright, trademark, etc.

Does anyone know why this happened?

That's interesting. It would appear that that company of course is in Germany and
looks as though they have nothing to do with 'Degen' radios per se. So one gets
into copyright, trademarks etc.

So it looks like a simple case of a trade name dispute and since eBay does
business in Deutscheland perhaps they felt it best to remove it.

The Chinese perhaps are not to good at respecting trade names?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



So maybe they'll choose a new name?
I hope it's not like the sewing machine thing.
A US marketing expert went to China to help
them get off the ground with selling a new
sewing machine.
He asked the company chief what the brand name of
the sewing machine would be.
The honcho said "Typical. Typical Sewing Machines."
Trying not to laugh the marketing guy asked,
"Why would you name the brand 'Typical'?"
Without hesitating, the Chinese entrepeneur responded,
"Why not? You have 'Standard' Oil."


I would put forth the 'Dang' trademark.

Then one can say... I've got a Dang 1103...

And someone else could respond... That's cool, but my Dang 1107 is better.

And so it goes.


And Kiwa could say that they modify any Dang radio you got!



dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce January 13th 05 12:45 AM



dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Sanjaya wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message ...


Sanjaya wrote:

I saw at http://www.radiointel.com that Liypn told Russ
eBay has stopped allowing the word "Degen" to appear
on eBay auctions, due to a complaint by Degen. Not much
information other than that.

I went to eBay and checked Liypn's auctions. Sure enough
he's selling DE1103s etc. with no mention of "Degen". Then
I checked Brochhi's stuff. He's still using the Degen name.

Here's what it says at radiointel.com:

Ebay Bans The Use Of The Word "Degen" On Auctions
Thanks to Ebay seller Liypn we learn that Ebay as prohibited
the use of the word "Degen" on their auction site. This is result of a
complaint filed by Degen GmbH Communication with Ebay as
unauthorized use of intellectual property rights, copyright, trademark, etc.

Does anyone know why this happened?

That's interesting. It would appear that that company of course is in Germany and
looks as though they have nothing to do with 'Degen' radios per se. So one gets
into copyright, trademarks etc.

So it looks like a simple case of a trade name dispute and since eBay does
business in Deutscheland perhaps they felt it best to remove it.

The Chinese perhaps are not to good at respecting trade names?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



So maybe they'll choose a new name?
I hope it's not like the sewing machine thing.
A US marketing expert went to China to help
them get off the ground with selling a new
sewing machine.
He asked the company chief what the brand name of
the sewing machine would be.
The honcho said "Typical. Typical Sewing Machines."
Trying not to laugh the marketing guy asked,
"Why would you name the brand 'Typical'?"
Without hesitating, the Chinese entrepeneur responded,
"Why not? You have 'Standard' Oil."


I would put forth the 'Dang' trademark.

Then one can say... I've got a Dang 1103...

And someone else could respond... That's cool, but my Dang 1107 is better.

And so it goes.


And Kiwa could say that they modify any Dang radio you got!


And when you wander around the house muttering under your breath... 'Where is that Dang
thing at', the wifey will know right away what your talking about and respond instantly...
'Why it's right over there on the shelf honey, right where you left it last night'.





dxAce
Michigan
USA



Michael Lawson January 13th 05 01:24 AM


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Sanjaya wrote:


snippage

I would put forth the 'Dang' trademark.

Then one can say... I've got a Dang 1103...

And someone else could respond... That's cool, but my Dang 1107

is better.

And so it goes.


And Kiwa could say that they modify any Dang radio you got!


And when you wander around the house muttering under your breath...

'Where is that Dang
thing at', the wifey will know right away what your talking about

and respond instantly...
'Why it's right over there on the shelf honey, right where you left

it last night'.

Dude, you and Sanjaya are in rare form tonight....

--Mike L.




tianli January 13th 05 01:28 AM

Ebay Bans The Use Of The Word "Degen" On Auctions
Thanks to Ebay seller Liypn we learn that Ebay as prohibited
the use of the word "Degen" on their auction site. This is result of a
complaint filed by Degen GmbH Communication with Ebay as
unauthorized use of intellectual property rights, copyright, trademark,

etc.

Does anyone know why this happened?


Probably because they didn't want their company reputation to be ruined.



Conan Ford January 13th 05 01:40 AM

"Sanjaya" wrote in
ink.net:

I saw at http://www.radiointel.com that Liypn told Russ
eBay has stopped allowing the word "Degen" to appear
on eBay auctions, due to a complaint by Degen. Not much
information other than that.

I went to eBay and checked Liypn's auctions. Sure enough
he's selling DE1103s etc. with no mention of "Degen". Then
I checked Brochhi's stuff. He's still using the Degen name.

Here's what it says at radiointel.com:

Ebay Bans The Use Of The Word "Degen" On Auctions
Thanks to Ebay seller Liypn we learn that Ebay as prohibited
the use of the word "Degen" on their auction site. This is result of a
complaint filed by Degen GmbH Communication with Ebay as
unauthorized use of intellectual property rights, copyright,
trademark, etc.

Does anyone know why this happened?




The company in Germany is probably searching for "Degen" with www.ebay.de.
Since Brochhi doesn't sell outside of the USA, his items won't show up on
www.ebay.de by default, but lipyn's will.

tianli January 13th 05 02:12 AM


If you run www.degen.com.cn through babelfish.altavista.com, the
translation of the name Degen uses in Chinese is "German Vigor."


Babel is wrong.

The Chinese word for German is "deguo".

Degen can be roughly translated as:

De = Very good, good performance or quality.
Gen = Vigor

Or in English, Degen "marketing" roughly translates into something like
Quality performance and strength.
As in many translations the meaning can be lost in translation.



m II January 13th 05 03:03 AM

tianli wrote:
If you run www.degen.com.cn through babelfish.altavista.com, the
translation of the name Degen uses in Chinese is "German Vigor."



Babel is wrong.

The Chinese word for German is "deguo".

Degen can be roughly translated as:

De = Very good, good performance or quality.
Gen = Vigor

Or in English, Degen "marketing" roughly translates into something like
Quality performance and strength.
As in many translations the meaning can be lost in translation.



Doesn't sound like a good basis for making 'Degenerate' desirable, but if
you say so...




mike

Volker Tonn January 13th 05 07:38 AM



m II schrieb:



Doesn't sound like a good basis for making 'Degenerate' desirable, but
if you say so...


'Degen' is the german word for 'sword'


Guy Atkins January 13th 05 03:24 PM


"dxAce" wrote in message
...

I would put forth the 'Dang' trademark.

Then one can say... I've got a Dang 1103...

And someone else could respond... That's cool, but my Dang 1107 is better.

And so it goes.

-------------------------------------------------------------

You're right again, dxAce! the Dang 1107 is a lot better. These DXers at the
recent DangFest are the experts, and they agree, too:

http://tinyurl.com/6u65q


Guy Atkins
Puyallup, WA





dxAce January 13th 05 03:47 PM



Guy Atkins wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

I would put forth the 'Dang' trademark.

Then one can say... I've got a Dang 1103...

And someone else could respond... That's cool, but my Dang 1107 is better.

And so it goes.

-------------------------------------------------------------

You're right again, dxAce! the Dang 1107 is a lot better. These DXers at the
recent DangFest are the experts, and they agree, too:

http://tinyurl.com/6u65q


At least one individual is giving it the thumbs up,

dxAce
Michigan
USA




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