Honus wrote:

What are you talking about?


Ah, now I see. I hadn't scrolled all of the way down to the bottom of
queerbarrel's posts.


It appears sneerbarrel is making a list of the people who wouldn't have sex
with him. I'm proud to be #1. It indicates I had NO hesitation in turning
down his advances.

'queerbarrel' is very appropriate. We'll save that name for the 'Ace in the
Hole', if you get my drift...


mike

David wrote:

Use 23 g steel wire (available at any hardware store). If
weight-tensioned properly it'll stand up to anything.


I use stranded steel clothesline. Very strong and thick enough so that the
senior members of the bird population can see it before they get maimed.




mike

Honus wrote:

Better than his old standby, which I'm told was "May I be Frank with you?"


So true... I certainly see why he was drummed out of the armed forces. The
'Don't ask, Don't smell' program was started up because of his not so
discrete liaisons in the 'mess' tent.




mike

m II wrote:

David wrote:

Use 23 g steel wire (available at any hardware store). If
weight-tensioned properly it'll stand up to anything.

I use stranded steel clothesline. Very strong and thick enough so that the
senior members of the bird population can see it before they get maimed.

Do you run the steel wire all the way to the radio? If not, how do you
connect the lead wire such as copper to the steel antenna wire without
galvanic corrosion?


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m II wrote:

Honus wrote:

What are you talking about?


Ah, now I see. I hadn't scrolled all of the way down to the bottom of
queerbarrel's posts.

It appears sneerbarrel is making a list of the people who wouldn't have sex
with him. I'm proud to be #1. It indicates I had NO hesitation in turning
down his advances.

'queerbarrel' is very appropriate. We'll save that name for the 'Ace in the
Hole', if you get my drift...

I thought you were going to try harder too.


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MICHAEL,
..
"Also, how do I connect a lightning arrestor to the antenna
and how do I properly connect the coax to the antenna ?"
..
Of... Lightning Arrestors and the Antenna Wire to Coax Cable Connection
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...a/message/2041
..
ZAP - - - - - / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / - - - - - ________
Here are several Lightning Arrestor type devices
that can offer some "Limited Protection" in the
event of a 'nearby' Lightening Strike in your area.
..
* Opek A7516 Lightning Arrestor [ Basic Air-Gap ]
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...tect/4618.html
..
* Transi-Trap LT utilizes a hermetically sealed gas filled cylinder
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...tect/1502.html
..
* Alpha Delta ATT3G50 series of coax surge protectors
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...tect/4003.html
..
* Antenna Super Market "Zap Trapper" Coaxial
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...tect/2993.html
..
* Cushcraft Constant Impedance LAC4
uses a replaceable Gas Discharge Tube
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...tect/0614.html
..
* DEO Receiver Guard 2000U
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...tect/1305.html
..
* Diamond CA Series of Coax Surge Protectors
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...tect/2318.html
..
..
THE ANTENNA WIRE TO COAX CABLE CONNECTION :
..
IMHO - The best was to make the Antenna Wire to Coax
Cable Connection is to use a Matching Transformer Balun
UnUn or what is called a Magnetic LongWire Balun.
+ These devices make the Electrical-Mechanical (Joints)
Connections between the Antenna Wire Element; the
Ground Wire; and the Coax Cable Feed-in-Line.
+ These devices also help to 'match' the "Impedance" of
the Antenna Wire Element to the Coax Cable Feed-in-Line.
+ These devices provide a "Direct-DC-Ground-Path" for
any Electrical Discharge pasted through the Antenna Wire
Element to earthen ground.
..
* * * Balun Reading List ( Long )
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/337
..
* RF Systems Magnetic Longwire Balun (MLB)
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/antsup/1484.html
..
* Shortwave Longwire (10:1) Antenna Feeder #SWL-1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5745940468
..
* "Universal Magnetic Balun" (UMB) a Receiving (Only) Antenna
Balun with a 9:1 impedance ratio by Wellbrook, UK.
UMB= http://www.wellbrook.uk.com/UMB.html
..
* Shortwave Longwire Antenna Feeder with balun LWF-1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5745918363
..
* Magnetic Longwire Balun (MLB) Palomar
http://www.palomar-engineers.com/MLB-1/mlb-1.html
http://www.antennex.com/palomar/page_6.htm
..
* Longwire Isolated (10:1) Antenna Feeder - SWL-1G
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5746411443
..
* WiNRADiO WR-LWA-0130 Long Wire Antenna Adapter
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/230
http://www.grove-ent.com/WR0130.html
http://www.winradio.com/home/lwa.htm
http://www.winradio.com/home/ax05e.htm
..
..
BUILT YOUR OWN BALUN :
Do-It-Yourself Antenna Balun Kits by ByteMark
http://www.bytemark.com/products/kit_bal1.htm
..
..
iane ~ RHF
..
All are WELCOME at the Shortwave Listener (SWL) "Antenna Ashram"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
..
Some Say: On A Clear Day You Can See Forever.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/502
..
I BELIEVE: On A Clear Night . . .
You Can Hear Forever and Beyond, The BEYOND !
With a Shortwave Listener SWL Antenna of your own making.
"If You Build It {SWL Antenna} You Will Hear Them !"

DX ACE,
..
For me it is not about the End Insulator Failing or the Wire
Failing. I had nothing to do with the design or make-up of the
Insulator or the Antenna Wire. If they fail then that is on
their respective manufactures; not me.
..
However, I do build the "Joint" {Connection} between the Antenna
Wire and the Insulator; and if it fails; then that is on me.
To that end I have a tendancy to OCD in Over-Building the Joint.
..
When building a "No-See-Um" 30 AWG Magnet Wire Antenna with Mono
Fishing Line for Rigging. I build the Wire-to-Mono Joints with
Fishing Line Swivels and Double-Lay and Double Bite (Wrapped)
Knots.
- The Wire may break.
- The Mono may break.
- The Swivel may break.
But the Knots will hold [.]
..
i just try to build the best 'joint' i can ~ RHF

I used a Palomar MLB with a tinned lead to the transformer. Soldered.
It grew small amounts of salt but that didn't seem to affect the
operation.

On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 03:26:00 -0500, starman wrote:

m II wrote:

David wrote:

Use 23 g steel wire (available at any hardware store). If
weight-tensioned properly it'll stand up to anything.

I use stranded steel clothesline. Very strong and thick enough so that the
senior members of the bird population can see it before they get maimed.

Do you run the steel wire all the way to the radio? If not, how do you
connect the lead wire such as copper to the steel antenna wire without
galvanic corrosion?


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David,
..
Clean the Solder Connection (Joint) with Alcohol.
..
Next Paint the Solder Joint with Clear Nail Polish and let it Dry.
..
Then Wrap and Secure the Solder the Connection as needed.
..
~ RHF

m II wrote:

starman wrote:

I use stranded steel clothesline. Very strong and thick enough so that the
senior members of the bird population can see it before they get maimed.

Do you run the steel wire all the way to the radio? If not, how do you
connect the lead wire such as copper to the steel antenna wire without
galvanic corrosion?

It's a temporary setup, So I just used a wire nut (Marrette) filled with
Penetrox, an anti oxidant grease, before it was put on the twisted coax
centre and the steel line. I positioned the closed end upwards, so that it
wouldn't collect rainwater.

A ground wire then runs down to the clamp on water pipe underneath. That's
the only side I have the coax grounded on. Then the coax runs through the
attic and down to the push button switch selector, which feeds the 'radio of
the day'.

A matching transformer didn't seem to make much difference

Someone else might chime in here on this one but if I'm not mistaken using the
coaxial cable in that fashion actually defeats the purpose as it should be
terminated in its characteristic impedance at both ends to be effective.

I seem to recall some effects of capacitance coming into play when used as
you've described, and what happens there is that the coaxial cable is simply
acting as a very long capacitor which might actually act as a block to some
frequencies.

I'll have to look through the literature when I get a chance.

Depending upon how you have it hooked up you might not have noticed any
difference with a matching transformer if it was not attached properly.

dxAce
Michigan
USA