"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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| "dxAce" wrote in message
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| Stinger wrote:

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| LOL

| That was absolutely excellent.

| Except for the fact that I am somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun, you
| may be on to something. Not.

I'm getting the sense that these two make Bevis and Butthead look attractive,
smart and successful. To say nothing about how goofy the repeated "LOLs"
look...just a couple of twittering asses, so it seems.
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| Unlike sports, where there is only one winner, in radio there are many
| winners. Stations way down in the 1-share range make excellent money. In
| fact, the third highest billing station in the market is 18th in ratings
| (nearly tied with WLIB) proving that rank alone has nothing to do with
| making money.

| So, your sports comparison is invalid.

David - logic doesn't work with this crew (rather my complaint about the new
Right, anyway). The degree of density is overpowering. It might be time to
go silent, and let them argue with themselves (provided they don't think that
this would be too gay).
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DE,

"Bob Haberkost" wrote in message
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"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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| "Stinger" wrote in message
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| Unlike sports, where there is only one winner, in radio there are many
| winners. Stations way down in the 1-share range make excellent money. In
| fact, the third highest billing station in the market is 18th in ratings
| (nearly tied with WLIB) proving that rank alone has nothing to do with
| making money.

| So, your sports comparison is invalid.

David - logic doesn't work with this crew (rather my complaint about the
new
Right, anyway). The degree of density is overpowering. It might be time
to
go silent, and let them argue with themselves (provided they don't think
that
this would be too gay).

Bob... arguing with you is fun, entertaining and educational. It is like
debate in college, forcing you to research even if you do not agree with the
position you must defend. Debating with these "experts" is like trying to
sustain an intelligent conversation on the drive-through intercom at
McDonalds.

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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| "Bob Haberkost" wrote in message
| news:4fxOd.30708$QS5.10737@trndny06...

| David - logic doesn't work with this crew (rather my complaint about the
| new Right, anyway). The degree of density is overpowering. It might
| be time to go silent, and let them argue with themselves (provided
| they don't think that this would be too gay).

| Bob... arguing with you is fun, entertaining and educational. It is like
| debate in college, forcing you to research even if you do not agree with
the
| position you must defend. Debating with these "experts" is like trying to
| sustain an intelligent conversation on the drive-through intercom at
| McDonalds.

Yes, indeed, David...I don't know why you try, although you deserve kudos for
a patience which rivals Job in doing so. But thank you for the compliments,
and most assuredly, even though we often disagree, I have often come away
with a better understanding of the issues at hand after engaging you (or
anyone else of sufficient intellect and integrity). What I fear for the U-S
is that this level of discussion has all but disappeared, whether it's in an
open forum such as this, or in the halls of government.
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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in
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gy.com.. .
In article , "David
Eduardo" wrote:

Bob... arguing with you is fun, entertaining and educational. It
is like debate in college, forcing you to research even if you do
not agree with the position you must defend. Debating with these
"experts" is like trying to sustain an intelligent conversation on
the drive-through intercom at McDonalds.

I'm not interested in arguing on Usenet, which is why Bob Haberkost
is in the kill file so you stepped in the dog poop twice in one
paragraph by referring to a Troll as someone to read and expressed
condescension after the fact of engaging in an argument.

It is hard not to talk down to someone who does not look at facts
before continuing a discussion. This, in simplified form, is what
stinger did. He wanted to make a point about the lack of success of
Air America based on a limited understanding of ratings for a
crippled-signal station in only one of the Air America markets.

Since Air America is a national network/syndictor, it must be
evaluated based on multiple markets. And to do this, we have to wait
because in most of the larger rated markets they are in, AA has not
been on long enough time to get traction... or to fail.

This isn't a place to argue, it's a place to post news.

Au contraire. Usenet is intended for discussion, opinion and debate.

No it not. It's a "news group" not an opinion forum. Your mistake is
continuing to argue with Stinger. You made your point many posts before
this and you should just leave it at that. You made your point and so
did stinger but continuing on just makes it a flame thread defeating any
purpose of informing other people reading the news group.

If you can't or don't want to do that then get lost.

I don't post news here. I have a PR firm that posts my news. That is
a function of the business of radio. Look for news on rronline.com or
allacces or subscribe to Inside Radio, RBR, M Street Journal, or one
of the many industry newletters and publications.

Well then you better start. That's real nice that you have resources
that other people like me don't have but that is besides the point that
this is a "news group."

Keep this crap up and you are in the kill file with Bob.

That is your choice. But by "threatening" it, you are saying you do
not want to hear oposing oints of view and evaluate them on thier
merits or by verification.

Bull****. I read plenty of people who's point of view I don't agree
with.

I used to have more respect for you before reading this thread.


I have all the respect I need inside the "real world" of radio. Like
most people, I am here to hear other peoples ideas... and engage in
debate where appropriate.

I have respect for people that post on topic newsworthy knowledge and
are willing to express it here. If you don't want to post that kind of
material then I don't have time for you period.

Now I've made my point and I'm not going to argue about it so this is
it. Conform to the topic of the news group and post something
"newsworthy" or join Bob in the kill file. It's your choice.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

Bob Haberkost wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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| You really need to focus more on what happens in CanaDuh, 'tard boy.

You're funny! Endlessly entertaining! Every country should have somebody
like you. The only problem is that the U-S is overrun with them....clueless,
rude and (worst of all) proud of it.

Damn straight, 'tard boy... we down here put CanaDuh to shame each and every
day... yep, we be clueless, but you, for all intents and purposes live in a third
world country!

Wanna play 'tard boy? You won't win. The odds are against you.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"dxAce" wrote in message
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| Bob Haberkost wrote:

| "dxAce" wrote in message
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| | You really need to focus more on what happens in CanaDuh, 'tard boy.

| You're funny! Endlessly entertaining! Every country should have
somebody
| like you. The only problem is that the U-S is overrun with
them....clueless,
| rude and (worst of all) proud of it.

| Damn straight, 'tard boy... we down here put CanaDuh to shame each and
every
| day... yep, we be clueless, but you, for all intents and purposes live in a
third
| world country!

| Wanna play 'tard boy? You won't win. The odds are against you.

It's not about winning. But you wouldn't know. The best part is that you
don't know that you lost a long, long time ago, and it gets worse for you
every time you can't resist taunting me again.

Far be it for me to let you off the hook. You wouldn't believe me if I told
you anyway, since you're convinced I'm a no-good Commie Canuck. If you look
real careful, you might see why I'm laughing, the next time you reply. But
probably not. And so, you lose again.
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Bob Haberkost wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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| Bob Haberkost wrote:

| "dxAce" wrote in message
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| | You really need to focus more on what happens in CanaDuh, 'tard boy.

| You're funny! Endlessly entertaining! Every country should have
somebody
| like you. The only problem is that the U-S is overrun with
them....clueless,
| rude and (worst of all) proud of it.

| Damn straight, 'tard boy... we down here put CanaDuh to shame each and
every
| day... yep, we be clueless, but you, for all intents and purposes live in a
third
| world country!

| Wanna play 'tard boy? You won't win. The odds are against you.

It's not about winning. But you wouldn't know. The best part is that you
don't know that you lost a long, long time ago, and it gets worse for you
every time you can't resist taunting me again.

Far be it for me to let you off the hook. You wouldn't believe me if I told
you anyway, since you're convinced I'm a no-good Commie Canuck. If you look
real careful, you might see why I'm laughing, the next time you reply. But
probably not. And so, you lose again.

I'm LMAO at the piece of **** 'tard from CanaDuh. When you get your unemployment
figures up, and your taxes lower, you come talk to us down here.

Until then, you are just another suckling pig on the teat of the USA.

Try better next time, 'tard boy.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Air America was shut down in its LA and Chicago markets yesterday.

Arthur Liu, owner of Multicultural Radio Broadcasting, which owns Air
America affiliates WNTD-950 AM in Chicago and KBLA-1580 AM in Los Angeles,

said Air America bounced a check and owes him more than $1
million.

Air America and Multicultural had entered into a time brokerage agreement
in which the network was essentially renting Multicultural's airtime, Liu
said.
"They bounced a check today," Liu said. "It's a default. They have paid
only a very small portion of what they owe us." Liu declined to say how
much Multicultural is owed, but did say he is holding $1 million in checks

that Air America has asked the company not to cash. One the basic rules of

capitalism: no rubber checks. I found that out early. And why aren’t all
those rich leftists helping out their ideological brethren?
"They've been saying, 'We're going to get you the money' for the past two
months," Liu said, referring to a security deposit that he said Air
America was supposed to have prepaid in advance of its launch. "They're
not honoring our agreement. "Sounds like my old tenants.

Oh and don’t you just love this title?

Liberal radio stations silenced…as if Multicultural Radio Broadcasting
were violating Air America’s rights by expecting to get paid.

Unlike the free enterprise model for broadcasting, stations PAY the
program supplier for programs, NEVER does a station GET PAID for carrying
a program. The arrangement with Air America and its stations was of
questionable legality in the first place.

www.worldnetdaily.com



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David wrote:

Franken's Air America bounces back with Bush win
Wed Feb 2, 2005 08:03 PM ET
By Steve Gorman
LOS ANGELES, Feb 2 (Reuters) - Comedian and political provocateur Al
Franken says the re-election of U.S. President George W. Bush was bad
for the country but good for his fledgling liberal radio network, Air
America, as it strives to rebound from a rocky start.

Much as conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh grew in popularity as he
railed for eight years against Democrat Bill Clinton, Franken sees
Bush as the perfect foil in his mission to amplify the voice of the
political left on daytime talk radio.
In an interview with Reuters ahead of this week's return of Air
America to Los Angeles, the second largest U.S. city, Franken said he
was as disappointed as any lefty by Bush's victory over Democratic
challenger John Kerry.

But in his view, Kerry's loss was Air America's gain.

"Obviously, it's more fun to go after Bush's terrible ideas and
programs than to defend Kerry's not-quite-exactly-what-we -want
plans," said Franken, 53, whose New York-based show and the rest of
Air America's lineup will begin airing on KTLK-AM in Los Angeles on
Thursday, the day after Bush's State of the Union address.

By the end of the month, the network that began in just six cities on
March 31, 2004, then nearly collapsed weeks later amid financial woes,
will have spread to 50 stations nationwide, including outlets in 15 of
the top 20 markets, among them New York, Washington, D.C., Miami,
Boston, Atlanta and Philadelphia.

It will even venture into Bush's home state of Texas with a launch on
a Corpus Christi station later this month.

The network's programming, which includes shows hosted by actress
Janeane Garofalo and commentator Randi Rhodes, also airs on satellite
radio and the Internet on (http://www.airamericaradio.com).

With a new team of executives in charge and investors committing
additional capital, Air America President Jon Sinton predicted the
network could reach profitability by year's end.

"We are as far as I can determine the fastest-growing network in the
history of this industry," Sinton said, adding that its cumulative
national audience ranges from 2.5 million to 3 million listeners per
week.

That pales in comparison to the 20 million so-called "ditto heads" who
tune in weekly to hear Limbaugh on nearly 600 stations nationwide, but
Sinton noted that the conservative commentator has a 15-year jump on
Air America.

The KTLK launch marks a key turning point after the network was
unceremoniously dumped from another Los Angeles station last spring
due to a cash crunch.

Ironically, some of the network's biggest successes have come on
stations owned by Clear Channel Communications Inc. (CCU.N: Quote,
Profile, Research) , the media giant seen by liberals as a tool of the
right and whose subsidiary, Premiere Radio Networks, syndicates
Limbaugh's show.

But Sinton said it should come as no surprise "when businesses behave
in ways that will enhance their bottom line." As one industry insider
who spoke on condition of anonymity put it, "If Franken can deliver an
audience, they'll run to Franken. They don't care about his politics."

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