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tianli February 3rd 05 11:50 PM


But looking at all the propagation conditions I can find, ie.
mag storms (none, in fact unusually quiet) and Xrays (none, quiet),
nothing changed from eg. yesterday to today.

So what indicator is there that I'm not seeing?


It is all quite elementary really :-P

MW/BCB Propagation Primer
http://66.175.38.157/kn4lf8.htm

Propagation Outlook:

....the low bands of 160, 120, 90 and 80 meters saw the best propagation
conditions since September 2004. Why? Because all of the general guide lines
as spelled out by me further down in this outlook were met.

http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf6.htm



Ron Hardin February 4th 05 11:09 AM

MW conditions, what changed?
 
WFAN 660 NYC has been like a local at 5:30am in Central Ohio the
past few days, and today is barely audible over Cubans and probably
a Pittsburgh station (no station ID), which don't seem to be any
stronger than usual. It's just that WFAN is really weak.

But looking at all the propagation conditions I can find, ie.
mag storms (none, in fact unusually quiet) and Xrays (none, quiet),
nothing changed from eg. yesterday to today.

So what indicator is there that I'm not seeing?

--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

Blue Cat February 4th 05 02:24 PM


"Ron Hardin" wrote in message
...
WFAN 660 NYC has been like a local at 5:30am in Central Ohio the
past few days, and today is barely audible over Cubans and probably
a Pittsburgh station (no station ID), which don't seem to be any
stronger than usual. It's just that WFAN is really weak.

But looking at all the propagation conditions I can find, ie.
mag storms (none, in fact unusually quiet) and Xrays (none, quiet),
nothing changed from eg. yesterday to today.

So what indicator is there that I'm not seeing?

These uncertaincies in propagation in the medium wave band makes dx'ing that
band a challenging proposition. I still remember one night a long time ago,
when I was living in Virginia, KOA (850 in Denver, CO) came in with an
extremely strong signal. The next night, it didn't come in at all. I also
remembered, while living in upstate New York about 15 years ago, I picked up
a signal from Colombia that drowned out WBT (Charlotte, NC).



David February 4th 05 03:11 PM

The Sun is changing.

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 11:09:11 GMT, Ron Hardin
wrote:

WFAN 660 NYC has been like a local at 5:30am in Central Ohio the
past few days, and today is barely audible over Cubans and probably
a Pittsburgh station (no station ID), which don't seem to be any
stronger than usual. It's just that WFAN is really weak.

But looking at all the propagation conditions I can find, ie.
mag storms (none, in fact unusually quiet) and Xrays (none, quiet),
nothing changed from eg. yesterday to today.

So what indicator is there that I'm not seeing?




[email protected] February 4th 05 05:17 PM

I live forty miles East of Vicksburg,Mississippi.Those little five and
six transistor shirt pocket size AM/MW band radios,back in the 1950's it
was normal at night times to pick up radio stations in New York
City,Minneapolis,Chicago,Detroit,Denver,Cincinatti ,once in a while
California and that station way out in West Texas that isn't there
anymore,(Del Rio,Texas,I think that's it) and quite a few other long
distance AM/MW radio stations too.
cuhulin



mongo February 4th 05 05:40 PM

hi all. i guess while you are on the subject of mw. i used to pick up
wcfl in chicago on one of those little pocket radios every night when i
was growing up here (also in central ohio). what year did wcfl quit
operations? i went thru a bunch of 9volt batteries come to think of it.

dxAce February 4th 05 05:51 PM



mongo wrote:

hi all. i guess while you are on the subject of mw. i used to pick up
wcfl in chicago on one of those little pocket radios every night when i
was growing up here (also in central ohio). what year did wcfl quit
operations? i went thru a bunch of 9volt batteries come to think of it.


I think it was in the mid-80's that WCFL ceased to exist? They are now WMVP and
broadcast sports talk.

I too went through a lot of 9 volt batteries with the little portable underneath
my pillow.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] February 4th 05 06:44 PM

My first new shirt pocket six transistor radio I bought at a Motorola
store here in Jackson in the 1960's.The bottom half of the sides of my
six transistor Motorola radio was round on both sides,the top half was
straight and the bottom of the radio was flat.I don't remember what
model of radio it was or how much money I paid for it,I remember it was
a red color.The first transistor radio I ever bought was from an
advertisement in a Popular Mechanics magazine back in the early
1950's.The radio was made in Kearney,Nebraska and it had an earphone,no
speaker.I think I paid about $10.00 for that little radio and it wasen't
worth a crap either,it wouldn't hardly pick up anything.It would
probally bring a pretty penny on eBay though.
cuhulin



Invader3K February 4th 05 07:22 PM

I noticed great conditions last night. Even in my electrical noisy
apartment building I was getting Dallas and Tennesee, among other
places, on my YB-400.


Tony Meloche February 4th 05 09:16 PM

dxAce wrote:

mongo wrote:


hi all. i guess while you are on the subject of mw. i used to pick up
wcfl in chicago on one of those little pocket radios every night when i
was growing up here (also in central ohio). what year did wcfl quit
operations? i went thru a bunch of 9volt batteries come to think of it.



I think it was in the mid-80's that WCFL ceased to exist? They are now WMVP and
broadcast sports talk.

I too went through a lot of 9 volt batteries with the little portable underneath
my pillow.

dxAce
Michigan
USA





I still have the Pansonic T-601 six tranistor that I got for my
birthday 40 years ago - and it still works (though not well). A radio
the size of a package of king size cigarettes, and at night I would
listen to WBZ in Boston from my bed in Detroit. That would fascinate
any kid - it certainly did me!

Tony

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mongo February 4th 05 10:32 PM

heck, you had the best rock and roll station right beside you. cfl came
in around 9-9:30 at night here. i have to check and see if mom has those
radios packed up somewhere. all had the leather case. i have a letter
from wcfl they sent me about the song "american pie" bob dearborn wrote.
man i feel old. also had a zenith shortwave that had about 20 tubes that
lit my room up at night. tall as i was.

[email protected] February 4th 05 11:12 PM

I don't care what they say.There are NO transistor radios than can match
those old tube radios.Espicially those old wooden cabinet floor model
radios,and the sound quality.Bose,y'all haven't learned **** yet!!!
cuhulin


ShortwaveMan February 5th 05 04:50 AM

The earth's magnetic field is weakening, and whatever affects the magnetic
field has a bearing on the condition of the ionosphere. I think the FCC may
have changed the power output some stations can use, and the radiation
patterns they may use.


~~~~~ God gives peace not war +
"Ron Hardin" wrote in message
...
WFAN 660 NYC has been like a local at 5:30am in Central Ohio the
past few days, and today is barely audible over Cubans and probably
a Pittsburgh station (no station ID), which don't seem to be any
stronger than usual. It's just that WFAN is really weak.

But looking at all the propagation conditions I can find, ie.
mag storms (none, in fact unusually quiet) and Xrays (none, quiet),
nothing changed from eg. yesterday to today.

So what indicator is there that I'm not seeing?

--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.




Greg February 5th 05 02:03 PM



From: mongo
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 12:40:44 -0500
Subject: MW conditions, what changed?

hi all. i guess while you are on the subject of mw. i used to pick up
wcfl in chicago on one of those little pocket radios every night when i
was growing up here (also in central ohio). what year did wcfl quit
operations? i went thru a bunch of 9volt batteries come to think of it.


Boy does this thread bring back memories. I was in high school in Bangor,
Maine, ca. 1960, when I got a shirt-pocket Silvertone 6 transistor radio
from Sears for Christmas. My favorite stations for rock music were WKBW,
Buffalo, WPTR, Albany I think, WABC, New York, and, of course, WMEX (?),
Boston, with "Arnie Ginsberg and the Night Train Show". It was a couple
years later that we moved to Florida and I traveled to New Orleans to march
in the Mardi Gras parade with my high school band. I was half asleep one
night when I was startled by a weird howling noise coming over my radio
through the little earplug. Some strange dude named Wolfman Jack!


Rob Mills February 5th 05 03:56 PM


Some strange dude named Wolfman Jack!


Del Rio Texas, they bled over on everything on the bottom end of the AM
dial. RM~



Mike February 6th 05 01:40 AM


tianli wrote:

But looking at all the propagation conditions I can find, ie.
mag storms (none, in fact unusually quiet) and Xrays (none, quiet),
nothing changed from eg. yesterday to today.

So what indicator is there that I'm not seeing?


It is all quite elementary really :-P

MW/BCB Propagation Primer
http://66.175.38.157/kn4lf8.htm

Propagation Outlook:

...the low bands of 160, 120, 90 and 80 meters saw the best

propagation
conditions since September 2004. Why? Because all of the general

guide lines
as spelled out by me further down in this outlook were met.

http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf6.htm




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