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Tom Sevart February 5th 05 09:26 PM

Hogan's Heroes Radio
 

"Richard Larson" wrote in message
...
I've been watching Hogan's Heroes reruns and in the beginning they show
Kinch operating some sort of radio. He's shown turning a crank looks like.
What sort of radio could that be?


A Baygen? :-)

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[email protected] February 6th 05 07:49 AM


Richard Larson wrote:
I've been watching Hogan's Heroes reruns and in the beginning they

show
Kinch operating some sort of radio. He's shown turning a crank looks

like.
What sort of radio could that be?


Navy survival kits used to (maybe still do) include a handcrank radio,
plus a key, so shipwrecked sailors could send out SOS messages. I
wouldn't be surprised in B17 crews had similar things.

Hudley Pearse


HankG February 6th 05 02:41 PM


"Tom Sevart" wrote in message
...

"Richard Larson" wrote in message
...
I've been watching Hogan's Heroes reruns and in the beginning they show
Kinch operating some sort of radio. He's shown turning a crank looks

like.
What sort of radio could that be?


A Baygen? :-)

As Cinch turns the crank, there is a 'slider' moving inside of coil
(probably a primitive crystal set for receive only). You would expect that
being in a concentration camp, their radio would be make-shift at best.

HankG



[email protected] February 6th 05 03:59 PM

I was watching Hogan's Heroes when they first came on tb.I don't
remember what it was exactly that I once read about Bob,but it wasen't
too good.
cuhulin


yea right February 6th 05 05:03 PM

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 09:41:42 -0500, HankG wrote:


"Tom Sevart" wrote in message
...

"Richard Larson" wrote in message
...
I've been watching Hogan's Heroes reruns and in the beginning they
show Kinch operating some sort of radio. He's shown turning a crank
looks

like.
What sort of radio could that be?


A Baygen? :-)

As Cinch turns the crank, there is a 'slider' moving inside of coil
(probably a primitive crystal set for receive only). You would expect
that being in a concentration camp, their radio would be make-shift at
best.

HankG


I posted a screen grab in alt.binaries.basement.graveyard

I know there are better pics of the radio and I will grab them and post as
I come along them


Michael Black February 6th 05 05:31 PM


"HankG" ) writes:
"Tom Sevart" wrote in message
...

"Richard Larson" wrote in message
...
I've been watching Hogan's Heroes reruns and in the beginning they show
Kinch operating some sort of radio. He's shown turning a crank looks

like.
What sort of radio could that be?


A Baygen? :-)

As Cinch turns the crank, there is a 'slider' moving inside of coil
(probably a primitive crystal set for receive only). You would expect that
being in a concentration camp, their radio would be make-shift at best.

HankG


First, they weren't in a concentration camp. Those were for people who
the nazis didn't like. They were in a prisoner of war camp, which at least
had the benefit of being run under the rules of the Geneva convention.

Since it was an exaggeration of the situation, there is no limit on what
would be in the radio. It's been years since I saw the show, but I remember
no indication that they were working with primitive equipment.

In reality, POW camps were not restricted to crystal radios. I gather that
even before the war began, the British started preparing officers for
capture, and the Red Cross packages were designed to help them
escape. Luxury items were chosen to bribe the guards, that scene in The Great
Escape has truth to it, and items were sent in the package that could be
remade into other things. Plus, useful items for radios were outright
smuggled into the camps in the packages.

Yes, most had nothing more than a crystal radio. But some camps had full
blown receivers. And one POW camp had a complete transmitter, which was
never used but ready in case it.

Given that the camp in Hogan's Heroes was practically a spy ring, I would
expect that arrangement would have been made to bring them a proper radio
and other supplies.

Michael


starman February 6th 05 09:06 PM

wrote:

Richard Larson wrote:
I've been watching Hogan's Heroes reruns and in the beginning they

show
Kinch operating some sort of radio. He's shown turning a crank looks

like.
What sort of radio could that be?


Navy survival kits used to (maybe still do) include a handcrank radio,
plus a key, so shipwrecked sailors could send out SOS messages. I
wouldn't be surprised in B17 crews had similar things.

Hudley Pearse


Hand cranked generators were common during WWII for powering portable
transmitters/receivers. They were similar to an aircraft magneto
generator.

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Michael Black February 6th 05 10:02 PM


starman ) writes:
wrote:

Richard Larson wrote:
I've been watching Hogan's Heroes reruns and in the beginning they

show
Kinch operating some sort of radio. He's shown turning a crank looks

like.
What sort of radio could that be?


Navy survival kits used to (maybe still do) include a handcrank radio,
plus a key, so shipwrecked sailors could send out SOS messages. I
wouldn't be surprised in B17 crews had similar things.

Hudley Pearse


Hand cranked generators were common during WWII for powering portable
transmitters/receivers. They were similar to an aircraft magneto
generator.

I gather a lot of spy equipment was battery operated, or ran off the
AC line.

The real puzzle about the equipment in Hogan's POW camp should be
how they weren't tracked down every time they transmitted. Since it
was a fixed location, it would be much easier to direction find them than
if they moved each time they transmitted. If the germans didn't catch
them one time, they'd have the generally area and each subsequent
transmission would help to pin down the location.

Michael


Jmpngtiger February 6th 05 11:26 PM

Which happened on several episodes, if you remember.

jt

The real puzzle about the equipment in Hogan's POW camp should be
how they weren't tracked down every time they transmitted. Since it
was a fixed location, it would be much easier to direction find them than
if they moved each time they transmitted. If the germans didn't catch
them one time, they'd have the generally area and each subsequent
transmission would help to pin down the location.

Michael










Tony Meloche February 7th 05 12:14 AM

Michael Black wrote:
starman ) writes:

wrote:

Richard Larson wrote:

I've been watching Hogan's Heroes reruns and in the beginning they

show

Kinch operating some sort of radio. He's shown turning a crank looks

like.

What sort of radio could that be?

Navy survival kits used to (maybe still do) include a handcrank radio,
plus a key, so shipwrecked sailors could send out SOS messages. I
wouldn't be surprised in B17 crews had similar things.

Hudley Pearse


Hand cranked generators were common during WWII for powering portable
transmitters/receivers. They were similar to an aircraft magneto
generator.


I gather a lot of spy equipment was battery operated, or ran off the
AC line.

The real puzzle about the equipment in Hogan's POW camp should be
how they weren't tracked down every time they transmitted. Since it
was a fixed location, it would be much easier to direction find them than
if they moved each time they transmitted. If the germans didn't catch
them one time, they'd have the generally area and each subsequent
transmission would help to pin down the location.

Michael



Absolutely right - but then you wouldn't have had a hit TV show.
Televison/movie/theatre require that you "suspend you belief" as a basic
premise most of the itme. Like Gilligan's Island - as the old joke
runs: If the professor was smart enough to make a radio out of a
coconut, why couldn't he fix a hole in a boat? :)

Tony

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