Hate to pick nits, Brian, but liberal and nazi are diametrically
opposed.
Nazis are ultra-conservative. Actually, I can't figure out why the far
end
of liberalism is considered to be communism. From the standpoint of
freedom,
it's virtually impossible to tell a real difference between fascism on
the
right and communism on the left.. they've met in the middle 'round the
back..

The problem, I think, Brenda, is that fascism can be practiced by
*anybody* as long as one allows intolerance and tunnel vision to rule
one's attitudes and actions. Nobody is immune, not liberals or
conservatives, not Christians or Muslims, not nazis or Communists. On
this list, we unfortunately have a number of people who, if given
enough power, might fit the description, if one assumes their posts to
be true reflections of their character. I tend toward the opinion that
it is largely bluster, that most on here are just trying to get a rise
out of others - sort of being a bully with no repercussions.

Brian was just acting the part of the insulting bully with his
comments, just because he can - so common on these newsgroups. I don't
blame him - the temptation to mistreat people with whom you disagree
can be powerful; I know it is for me.

Bruce Jensen

"bpnjensen" wrote in message
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Hate to pick nits, Brian, but liberal and nazi are diametrically
opposed.
Nazis are ultra-conservative. Actually, I can't figure out why the far
end
of liberalism is considered to be communism. From the standpoint of
freedom,
it's virtually impossible to tell a real difference between fascism on
the
right and communism on the left.. they've met in the middle 'round the
back..

The problem, I think, Brenda, is that fascism can be practiced by
*anybody* as long as one allows intolerance and tunnel vision to rule
one's attitudes and actions. Nobody is immune, not liberals or
conservatives, not Christians or Muslims, not nazis or Communists. On
this list, we unfortunately have a number of people who, if given
enough power, might fit the description, if one assumes their posts to
be true reflections of their character. I tend toward the opinion that
it is largely bluster, that most on here are just trying to get a rise
out of others - sort of being a bully with no repercussions.

Brian was just acting the part of the insulting bully with his
comments, just because he can - so common on these newsgroups. I don't
blame him - the temptation to mistreat people with whom you disagree
can be powerful; I know it is for me.

Bruce Jensen


It's all in jest. I just don't agree with extreme views on either side that
affect my rights and have little or no effect on the problems they try to
correct.

B.H.

I just don't agree with extreme views on either side that
affect my rights and have little or no effect on the problems they try
to
correct.

B.H.

...of course, and how could it be different? Myself, I am willing to
accept some amounts of extremism, temporarily, *if* it looks like a
problem could be solved with it - otherwise, it is usually far better
to build a consensus and, as far as possible, ignore the outliers.

BJ

"bpnjensen" wrote in message
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I just don't agree with extreme views on either side that
affect my rights and have little or no effect on the problems they try
to
correct.

B.H.

..of course, and how could it be different? Myself, I am willing to
accept some amounts of extremism, temporarily, *if* it looks like a
problem could be solved with it - otherwise, it is usually far better
to build a consensus and, as far as possible, ignore the outliers.

BJ


I understand but I'm not willing to budge on any aspect of my freedom as
it's laid out in the Bill of Right or in our Constitution. I don't believe
in security over freedom because it doesn't work and it ultimately opens the
door to further erosion of our rights.

B.H.

B.H. wrote:

I understand but I'm not willing to budge on any aspect of my
freedom as
it's laid out in the Bill of Right or in our Constitution. I don't
believe
in security over freedom because it doesn't work and it ultimately
opens the
door to further erosion of our rights.

Fair enough, and I agree. You must have some real concerns with the
Patriot Act and our current leadership, then, because I sure do,
vis-a-vis the Bill of Rights. The potential exists to make life quite
a bit more obnoxious under that Act.

Bruce Jensen