They know that. They just want a reason to argue.

"David" wrote in message
...
The thread is about government initiated fake news, not QSL cards.

CW wrote:

They know that. They just want a reason to argue.

No arguement here, simply pointing out the facts.

The facts flew right over your head, didn't they?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

-=jd=- wrote:

On Mon 21 Feb 2005 09:48:20a, David wrote in message
:

The point is that in this country it is illegal for the government to
trick the governed, or to attempt to trick the governed. That is how
totalitarians behave.

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:40:48 -0500, dxAce
wrote:



Joel Rubin wrote:

Here, the VOA can't send a QSL card to Dubuque, because it might
promote a propaganda service to Americans.

Huh? I've got a stack of VOA QSL's here.

What's your problem?

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Hmmm... dxAce replied that he has received "a stack of VOA QSL's" in
response to another poster mentioning that it was prohibited. Then you
(David) replied that it's "illegal for a government to "trick the
governed" ala "totalitarians". Exactly how does offering a reception report
and requesting a QSL in return equate to "tricking" anyone? Exactly how
does offering a reception report and requesting a QSL in return indicate a
totalitarian form of government? Just so we have a point of reference for
where your mind is at, do you find it particularly difficult to distinguish
the difference between a mere reception report and the subsequent receipt
of a QSL from a "video news release" or a "prepackaged news story"? If I
were to request a QSL from a foreign language broadcaster (one I was not
fluent in), would I have been "tricked by totalitarians" somehow - merely
by offering a reception report and receiving a QSL in return?

-=jd=-


Ask "tianli". He seems to think that requesting a QSL from China Radio
International equates to approval of the Chinese Communist Party.
Furthermore, he thinks that buying Chinese made radios and other
products equates to same.


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running dogg wrote:

-=jd=- wrote:

On Mon 21 Feb 2005 09:48:20a, David wrote in message
:

The point is that in this country it is illegal for the government to
trick the governed, or to attempt to trick the governed. That is how
totalitarians behave.

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:40:48 -0500, dxAce
wrote:



Joel Rubin wrote:

Here, the VOA can't send a QSL card to Dubuque, because it might
promote a propaganda service to Americans.

Huh? I've got a stack of VOA QSL's here.

What's your problem?

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Hmmm... dxAce replied that he has received "a stack of VOA QSL's" in
response to another poster mentioning that it was prohibited. Then you
(David) replied that it's "illegal for a government to "trick the
governed" ala "totalitarians". Exactly how does offering a reception report
and requesting a QSL in return equate to "tricking" anyone? Exactly how
does offering a reception report and requesting a QSL in return indicate a
totalitarian form of government? Just so we have a point of reference for
where your mind is at, do you find it particularly difficult to distinguish
the difference between a mere reception report and the subsequent receipt
of a QSL from a "video news release" or a "prepackaged news story"? If I
were to request a QSL from a foreign language broadcaster (one I was not
fluent in), would I have been "tricked by totalitarians" somehow - merely
by offering a reception report and receiving a QSL in return?

-=jd=-


Ask "tianli". He seems to think that requesting a QSL from China Radio
International equates to approval of the Chinese Communist Party.
Furthermore, he thinks that buying Chinese made radios and other
products equates to same.

I think you're mistaken, as usual. I don't think that was the point Tianli was trying
to make at all.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

www.dogpile.com DXing And How To Obtain QSL Cards.
fed govt is not going to interfere with anybody listening to Shortwave
Radio and Ham Radio Operators who like to obtain QSL Cards as part of
their Hobby.
cuhulin

You seem to have issues with linear thought.

Once again: propaganda is illegal, immoral, and ultimately harmful to
we the people. Bush, nonetheless, insists on employing it. He is a
traitor. His supporters would be traitors too if they weren't so far
removed from reality as to have an insanity defense.
\
On 22 Feb 2005 00:57:50 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote:

On Mon 21 Feb 2005 04:28:31p, "CW" wrote in message
:

They know that. They just want a reason to argue.

"David" wrote in message
...
The thread is about government initiated fake news, not QSL cards.



Are you agreeing with Rickets that requesting a QSL from VOA equates to
being tricked by a totalitarian govt.?? I must be blind as a bat. I can't,
for the life of me, find the slimmest, remotest, wispiest thread of
commonality between the two. I bet Rickets *ROOLZ* at playing "Six-Degrees
of Kevin Bacon"!


-=jd=-

David wrote:

You seem to have issues with linear thought.

You simply seem to be having trouble swallowing those meds. You got something
else in your mouth, 'tard boy?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Propaganda is illegal? Listen to all that propaganda from CanaDUHDUHDUH!
y'all talk funny too :{)
cuhulin

The right,proper way to obtain QSL cards,in my opinion,is to EARN
them.Anybody can buy them from eBay or elsewhere.And no,I do not own any
QSL cards,not a single one.
cuhulin

On 21 Feb 2005 15:46:12 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote:

On Mon 21 Feb 2005 09:48:20a, David wrote in message
:

The point is that in this country it is illegal for the government to
trick the governed, or to attempt to trick the governed. That is how
totalitarians behave.

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:40:48 -0500, dxAce
wrote:



Joel Rubin wrote:

Here, the VOA can't send a QSL card to Dubuque, because it might
promote a propaganda service to Americans.

Huh? I've got a stack of VOA QSL's here.

What's your problem?

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Hmmm... dxAce replied that he has received "a stack of VOA QSL's" in
response to another poster mentioning that it was prohibited. Then you
(David) replied that it's "illegal for a government to "trick the
governed" ala "totalitarians". Exactly how does offering a reception report
and requesting a QSL in return equate to "tricking" anyone? Exactly how
does offering a reception report and requesting a QSL in return indicate a
totalitarian form of government? Just so we have a point of reference for
where your mind is at, do you find it particularly difficult to distinguish
the difference between a mere reception report and the subsequent receipt
of a QSL from a "video news release" or a "prepackaged news story"? If I
were to request a QSL from a foreign language broadcaster (one I was not
fluent in), would I have been "tricked by totalitarians" somehow - merely
by offering a reception report and receiving a QSL in return?

You're combining two different things from two different postings.

The point is that the VOA is prohibited from interacting in certain
interactions with U.S. citizens and residents because Congress didn't
want to create a domestic propaganda agency. (By the way, note the
sponsorship scandal in Canada.)

I had thought it included QSL cards but apparently not. But, for
example, when they have contests, you always hear that this contest is
not open to citizens or residents of the U.S.

On the other hand, the Bush administration has been making "news"
segments for local stations and distributing them to U.S. TV stations
without disclosing their origin and agenda.

http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/usia/usiahome/overview.pdf
(USIA publication)
(Page 36)

[quote]
Since its founding, USIA has been
prohibited by Congress from directing its
informational programs toward its own
citizens. By design, under the United States
Information and Educational Exchange Act
of 1948, USIA’s informational programs
have been directed only to overseas
audiences. An amendment to that act in
February 1990 authorized the Director of
the U.S. Information Agency to make
certain products available to the Archivist of
the United States for domestic distribution.
Motion pictures, films, videotapes, and
other material prepared for dissemination
abroad are available 12 years after
material is first sent abroad, or, in the case
of material not disseminated abroad, 12
years after the preparation of the material.
[close quote]