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Reception better lately but the news group sure sucks
The short wave reception has been much improved the last few days in
contrast to the news group which seems to keep getting worse. With the improved short wave conditions I seem to notice more DRM signals on the bands. What a bunch of noise those signals are with most covering three channels. Had an amusing moment with Havana Cuba complaining about the Bush "propaganda machine." All signals beamed my way are very strong and many weak signals not beamed this way aplenty these last few days. Wish I had more time to listen. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
"Telamon" wrote in message ... Had an amusing moment with Havana Cuba complaining about the Bush "propaganda machine." I was listening to that. I wonder if those people actually put out that crap with a straight face. It's hard to believe that they actually believe what they are saying. RM~ |
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"Rob Mills" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message .. . Had an amusing moment with Havana Cuba complaining about the Bush "propaganda machine." I was listening to that. I wonder if those people actually put out that crap with a straight face. It's hard to believe that they actually believe what they are saying. RM~ I could not broadcast their "news" without busting up laughing. Maybe Dan Blather could do it. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
"Telamon" wrote in message ... Maybe Dan Blather could do it. Yeah, Ol Dan would just suck it up and go with it. |
That Son Of A Bitch dan rather lie than tell the Truth rather SUCKS!
anyway.I Believe those Cubans in Cuba would vote for Bush if they could.They damn sure do not like castro,in my opinion. cuhulin |
We do put out propaganda - plenty of it: enough to employ a stable boy full
time for the rest of his life. ~~~~~ God gives Peace not war + "Telamon" wrote in message ... The short wave reception has been much improved the last few days in contrast to the news group which seems to keep getting worse. With the improved short wave conditions I seem to notice more DRM signals on the bands. What a bunch of noise those signals are with most covering three channels. Had an amusing moment with Havana Cuba complaining about the Bush "propaganda machine." All signals beamed my way are very strong and many weak signals not beamed this way aplenty these last few days. Wish I had more time to listen. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
ShortwaveMan wrote: We do put out propaganda - plenty of it: enough to employ a stable boy full time for the rest of his life. Sounds like the voice of experience. How many do you employ? dxAce Michigan USA |
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On 24/02/2005 1:46 AM, Telamon wrote:
[...] With the improved short wave conditions I seem to notice more DRM signals on the bands. What a bunch of noise those signals are with most covering three channels. I have heard a lot of noise on 49m these last few days. Can you offer an example of a frequency that has specific DRM traffic on it? My little radio is not so good at DXing, and I'm close to the Sackville relay. As a result I tend to listen to these strong signals. They have been booming in the last few nights. Had an amusing moment with Havana Cuba complaining about the Bush "propaganda machine." Propaganda RHC may be, but many other stations I've been listening to are as guilty of stretching the limits of my credulity. Some of these stations are on distant WM and local television too, so draw your own conclusions. Every country has it's own propaganda machine. The U.S. is no different, nor should we expect it to be. The content is often different depending on the audience (i.e., global or domestic.) Even the VOA has (had?) a mandate to broadcast official American propaganda around the world. It's dangerous to listen to anything on RHC _or_ VOA without a critical ear. Anyway, the music is better on RHC. |
Anyway, the music is better on RHC
I find that for great Cuban music, R. Rebelde is about tops...but RHC is fine too. Bruce Jensen |
clvrmnky wrote:
On 24/02/2005 1:46 AM, Telamon wrote: Had an amusing moment with Havana Cuba complaining about the Bush "propaganda machine." Propaganda RHC may be, but many other stations I've been listening to are as guilty of stretching the limits of my credulity. Some of these stations are on distant WM and local television too, so draw your own conclusions. Every country has it's own propaganda machine. The U.S. is no different, nor should we expect it to be. The content is often different depending on the audience (i.e., global or domestic.) Even the VOA has (had?) a mandate to broadcast official American propaganda around the world. It's dangerous to listen to anything on RHC _or_ VOA without a critical ear. Anyway, the music is better on RHC. Heck, even the BBC is propaganda. If you listen to their "interviews" you can hear their bias in the questions. Bias is also exhibited by the choice of interview subjects. Last night (actually this morning world day) on The World Today they reported on the "showdown" meeting between Bush and Putin by interviewing a Russian dissident, who of course ranted against Putin and expressed his wish for a strong Western condemnation of Putin's authoritarian tendencies, which of course won't happen. All "news" is propaganda to a certain extent. Did you hear RHC's rant against National Intelligence Director nominee John Negroponte on Saturday night? Apparently Negroponte was the US ambassador to Honduras in the early 80s when a right wing junta was terrorizing the populace, and RHC wasted no time blaming Negroponte for not doing something about it. In fact, HALF of the 10 minute newscast was taken up with this anti-Negroponte ranting. On Monday night they took up half the newscast with Hugo Chavez's assertion that the US was getting ready to assassinate him, something RHC asserted would cause a "continentwide revolt". But every so often RHC comes up with something that's actually credible sounding, like Tuesday night's assertions that the US is planning a Fallujah style assault on Ramadi (sp?) in Iraq, and that Iran is planning a guerrilla war against US troops if they invade (a simple strategy: let US troops conquer Iran unopposed, and then make the occupation hell through guerrilla fighting). ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Whether it is news or propoganda depends on the side you belong to.
George W. and his machine does a fine job of cranking out half truths and innuendo as well. The nonsense about social security being in "immediate crisis" and that individual investment accounts will fix the problem is but one example. |
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dxAce wrote: wrote: Whether it is news or propoganda depends on the side you belong to. George W. and his machine does a fine job of cranking out half truths and innuendo as well. The nonsense about social security being in "immediate crisis" and that individual investment accounts will fix the problem is but one example. Gee, just a few years ago the Democrats were saying that Social Security was in 'immediate crisis', or something quite similar. What changed, other than President Bush deciding on taking a look at the problem? Go back and check. This situation is similar to the Democrats/Liberals calling for regime change in Iraq, and when a Republican President comes along and actually does something they start screaming. It's absolutely boggling! dxAce Michigan USA |
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Telamon wrote:
The short wave reception has been much improved the last few days in contrast to the news group which seems to keep getting worse. With the improved short wave conditions I seem to notice more DRM signals on the bands. What a bunch of noise those signals are with most covering three channels. Had an amusing moment with Havana Cuba complaining about the Bush "propaganda machine." All signals beamed my way are very strong and many weak signals not beamed this way aplenty these last few days. Wish I had more time to listen. I can't recall the name of the announcer on R Havana, but there's guy there with a really smooth voice who should be narrating bedtime stories. One of the nicer voices on radio IMHO. Generally don't listen to this station unless something interesting is going on. I liked the Elian Gonzales (spelling?) thing a few years back for the official Cuban perspective. |
Honus wrote:
wrote in message ... IRELAND?,,,,, brits OUT!!!!!! GO IRA,GO! Still supporting the child-killing terrorists, I see. I've plonked this cuhulin dude. However, seeing this, I'd suggest he could use a visit from antiterrorism authorities, whomever your patriot act empowers to talk to those supporting illegal terror organisations. |
"uncle arnie" wrote in message ... Honus wrote: wrote in message ... IRELAND?,,,,, brits OUT!!!!!! GO IRA,GO! Still supporting the child-killing terrorists, I see. I've plonked this cuhulin dude. However, seeing this, I'd suggest he could use a visit from antiterrorism authorities, whomever your patriot act empowers to talk to those supporting illegal terror organisations. Last time I checked, here in the States we were still free to say what we like...and to think likewise. ;) |
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clvrmnky wrote: On 24/02/2005 1:46 AM, Telamon wrote: [...] With the improved short wave conditions I seem to notice more DRM signals on the bands. What a bunch of noise those signals are with most covering three channels. I have heard a lot of noise on 49m these last few days. Can you offer an example of a frequency that has specific DRM traffic on it? My little radio is not so good at DXing, and I'm close to the Sackville relay. As a result I tend to listen to these strong signals. They have been booming in the last few nights. Had an amusing moment with Havana Cuba complaining about the Bush "propaganda machine." Propaganda RHC may be, but many other stations I've been listening to are as guilty of stretching the limits of my credulity. Some of these stations are on distant WM and local television too, so draw your own conclusions. Every country has it's own propaganda machine. The U.S. is no different, nor should we expect it to be. The content is often different depending on the audience (i.e., global or domestic.) Even the VOA has (had?) a mandate to broadcast official American propaganda around the world. It's dangerous to listen to anything on RHC _or_ VOA without a critical ear. Anyway, the music is better on RHC. I used to listen to RHC for the music but that has been a while. Sorry, I didn't note the specific frequencies the DRM signals were on but I was getting bugged by them on the 31, 25, 19 and 16 meter bands as I was scanning them. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
On 24/02/2005 1:11 PM, bpnjensen wrote:
Anyway, the music is better on RHC I find that for great Cuban music, R. Rebelde is about tops...but RHC is fine too. I've been trying all sorts of random-wire creativity to pick up Radio Rebelde. So far, no luck. This whole shortwave thing is a bit of a lobster trap! I thought I'd just stick my toe in with a little portatop; now I'm seriously eyeing one of the big tabletop receivers and dreaming up antenna solutions for my little backyard. |
I've been trying all sorts of random-wire creativity to pick up Radio
Rebelde. So far, no luck. Clvrmnky - Where are you? Radio Rebelde is quite strong, at least here in the US. The 5025 kHz outlet puts in a spectacular signal here local evenings (California), even audible on a portable radio. With a modest additional random wire on your radio, its new 50 kW transmitter packs a wallop. You should be able to grab it without much trouble. Bruce Jensen |
Telamon wrote:
The short wave reception has been much improved the last few days in contrast to the news group which seems to keep getting worse. In all honesty you often contribute to the problem by responding to the OT posts, particularly the political ones. How about exercising more self control. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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wrote: Telamon wrote: The short wave reception has been much improved the last few days in contrast to the news group which seems to keep getting worse. In all honesty you often contribute to the problem by responding to the OT posts, particularly the political ones. How about exercising more self control. Typical unhelpful post by Starman. Well you are entitled to your opinion but you are wrong. I post the reason that I'm Plonking them and that it. I don't argue with them, which is the problem with many people in the group like you. I all the reasonable people would follow my example then the Trolls would leave or at the least have no effect. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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, Telamon wrote: In article , starman wrote: Telamon wrote: The short wave reception has been much improved the last few days in contrast to the news group which seems to keep getting worse. In all honesty you often contribute to the problem by responding to the OT posts, particularly the political ones. How about exercising more self control. Typical unhelpful post by Starman. Well you are entitled to your opinion but you are wrong. I post the reason that I'm Plonking them and that it. I don't argue with them, which is the problem with many people in the group like you. I all the reasonable people would follow my example then the Trolls would leave or at the least have no effect. "If all" -- Telamon Ventura, California |
bpnjensen wrote:
Anyway, the music is better on RHC I find that for great Cuban music, R. Rebelde is about tops...but RHC is fine too. Ry Cooder did some really superb recordings there a while back. mike |
"ShortwaveMan" wrote in
ink.net: We do put out propaganda - plenty of it: enough to employ a stable boy full time for the rest of his life. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...M/103-4904152- 4251815 911, WMD (actually, we use this most often, Weapon of Mass Deception), "Operation Iraqi Freedom", "coalition of the willing", Democracy in the U.S., free elections, etc. Visit the following link, for an unbiased dissertation on Propaganda, the word. Anyone that believes that the U.S. is not actively involved in propaganda, I have some prime seaside land for sale on mars. It's quite juvenile to assert that the U.S. is somehow as pure as the wind driven snow concerning propaganda. Please visit the link and see how propaganda has shaped history over the ages. Plenty of pictures for those of you that are alphanumerically challenged. Dr. Artaud http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda "Propaganda is a specific type of message presentation aimed at serving an agenda. At its root, the denotation of propaganda is 'to propagate (actively spread) a philosophy or point of view'. The most common use of the term (historically) is in political contexts; in particular to refer to certain efforts sponsored by governments or political groups. The aim of propaganda is to actively influence people's opinions, rather than to merely communicate the facts about something. For example, propaganda might be used to garner either support or disapproval of a certain position, rather than to simply present the position. What separates propaganda from "normal" communication is in the subtle, often insidious, ways that the message attempts to shape opinion. For example, propaganda is often presented in a way that attempts to deliberately evoke a strong emotion, especially by suggesting non-logical (or non- intuitive) relationships between concepts. An appeal to one's emotions is, perhaps, more obvious a propaganda method than utilized by some other less overt and perhaps even more insidious forms. For instance, propaganda may be transmitted implicitly. Propaganda can be transmitted as the presupposition or presuppositions within an ostensibly fair and balanced debate or argument. This can be done to great effect in conjunction with a broadcast news format. Here is an example of a hypothetical situation in which the opposing view points are supposedly represented: the hawk (see: hawkish) says, "we must stay the course", and the dove says, "The war is a disaster and a failure", to which the hawk responds, "In war things seldom go smoothly and we must not let set backs affect our determination", the dove retorts, "setbacks are setbacks, but, failures are failures." As one can see, the actual validity of the war is not discussed and is never in contention. In giving the appearance of representing opposing positions and view points, a debate (of what is really aspects of the actual, genuine, argument worthy issue) in which the debaters argue from the same basic assumptions, implicitly inculcates the presupposition(s) as sacrosanct truth, thus, establishing it as an accepted fact about the given issue for ignorant observers. The method of propaganda is essential to the word's meaning as well. A message does not have to be untrue to qualify as propaganda. In fact, the message in modern propaganda is often not blatantly untrue. But even if the message conveys only "true" information, it will generally contain partisan bias and fail to paint a complete and balanced picture. Another common characteristic of propaganda is volume (in the sense of a large amount). For example, a propagandist may seek to influence opinion by attempting to get a message heard in as many places as possible, and as often as possible. The intention of this approach is to a) reinforce an idea through repetition, and b) drown-out or exclude any alternative ideas. In English, the word "propaganda" usually carries strong negative (as well as political) connotations. This is not necessarily so in other languages, and usage of the term may lead to misunderstanding in communications with non-native English speakers. For example, in Brazil and some Spanish language speaking countries, particularly in the Southern Cone, the word "propaganda" usually means the most common manipulation of information—"advertising."" |
Telamon wrote:
In article , starman wrote: Telamon wrote: The short wave reception has been much improved the last few days in contrast to the news group which seems to keep getting worse. In all honesty you often contribute to the problem by responding to the OT posts, particularly the political ones. How about exercising more self control. Typical unhelpful post by Starman. Well you are entitled to your opinion but you are wrong. I post the reason that I'm Plonking them and that it. I don't argue with them, which is the problem with many people in the group like you. I all the reasonable people would follow my example then the Trolls would leave or at the least have no effect. -- Telamon Ventura, California Typical, unhelpful? Virtually all of my posts are on topic. You won't find more than a handful where I replied to OT threads. You made hundreds of OT posts during the pre-election weeks. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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