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BDK March 9th 05 03:34 PM

SICK ? Read this
 
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BDK wrote:

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says...

Pastor Peter J. Peters is preaching / teaching this morning on God's
health laws.

9985 now - 09:00 EST / 14:00 UTC

12.160 MHz at 12:00 EST / 17:00 UTC

5070 KHz at 11:00 PM | 23:00 EST / 04:00 UTC

He'll also be on at 10:00 pm | 22:00 EST / 03:00 UTC but not this same
message. The 10:00 PM message will repeat at 4:00 AM EST / 09:00 UTC.

This can also be heard via satellite on Telstar 5. Look for SFA or SFAW

It is also available as a live stream at
http://www.scripturesforamerica.org and the programs are archived there.
Look for today's date in the audio section.




When he cures whatever is eating at that brain of his, Be it Syphilis, a
tumor, an infection, or maybe just a hole in his head,
then I'll want to listen for anything more than a laugh..

BDK


It's probably not for you anyway. Go ahead and eat your mice and your
pork! The trichinosis is FREE! Sorry to have disturbed your slumber.






Pork, yes, nothing wrong with it cooked you know, the trichinosis is
killed when heated. Maybe you don't understand that.

But mice?? LOL.

Your kookery is mind boggling..

BDK

Al Patrick March 9th 05 04:56 PM

BDK wrote:

In article ,
says...

BDK wrote:


In article ,

says...


Pastor Peter J. Peters is preaching / teaching this morning on God's
health laws.

9985 now - 09:00 EST / 14:00 UTC

12.160 MHz at 12:00 EST / 17:00 UTC

5070 KHz at 11:00 PM | 23:00 EST / 04:00 UTC

He'll also be on at 10:00 pm | 22:00 EST / 03:00 UTC but not this same
message. The 10:00 PM message will repeat at 4:00 AM EST / 09:00 UTC.

This can also be heard via satellite on Telstar 5. Look for SFA or SFAW

It is also available as a live stream at
http://www.scripturesforamerica.org and the programs are archived there.
Look for today's date in the audio section.




When he cures whatever is eating at that brain of his, Be it Syphilis, a
tumor, an infection, or maybe just a hole in his head,
then I'll want to listen for anything more than a laugh..

BDK


It's probably not for you anyway. Go ahead and eat your mice and your
pork! The trichinosis is FREE! Sorry to have disturbed your slumber.



Pork, yes, nothing wrong with it cooked you know, the trichinosis is
killed when heated. Maybe you don't understand that.

But mice?? LOL.

Your kookery is mind boggling..

BDK


A google search for "eating mice" yielded over 3900 hits.

The New American Standard Bible, Updated Edition - 1995, in Isaiah 66,
places the eating of swine (pork) in the SAME category as the eating of
mice. Check it out.

Check out the dietary laws in Leviticus. All shell fish are also
unclean. They are the ocean's filters, as are fish which do not have
scales and fins; i.e. the catfish. They are scum eaters. It's about
the same as washing your dishes and then "cooking" the dishrag for lunch
- or maybe the air filter from your furnace or the air or oil filter
from your automobile. Go ahead! Enjoy your pork and shell fish! But
don't blame God when you come down with some disease!

Especially read Isaiah 66:17,

“'Those who sanctify and purify themselves to go to the agardens,
1Following one in the center,
Who eat bSWINE'S FLESH, DETESTABLE THINGS, AND MICE,
Will ccome to an end altogether,' declares the Lord."

[emphasis mine]

For the context go back to verse 10 and read through verse 24. It
discusses "Joy in Jerusalem’s Future" through verse 14 and then talks
about the things which will befall the wicked.

The numbers and letters preceding some of the words refer to available
notes on that verse. I thought to delete them, but decided to allow you
to see that many of the verses do refer you to other verses throughout
the scriptures. Therefore, if a word doesn't look right, consider it
without the first letter or number. ;-)

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10 “Be ajoyful with Jerusalem and rejoice for her, all you who blove
her; Be exceedingly cglad with her, all you who mourn over her,

11 That you may nurse and abe satisfied with her comforting breasts,
That you may suck and be delighted with her bbountiful bosom.”

12 For thus says the Lord, “Behold, I extend apeace to her like a
river, And the bglory of the nations like an overflowing stream;
And you will 1be nursed, you will be ccarried on the 2hip and
fondled on the knees.

13 “As one whom his mother comforts, so I will acomfort you;
And you will be comforted in Jerusalem.”

14 Then you will asee this, and your bheart will be glad,
And your cbones will flourish like the new grass;
And the dhand of the Lord will be made known to His servants,
But He will be eindignant toward His enemies.

15 For behold, the Lord will come in afire
And His bchariots like the whirlwind,
To render His anger with fury,
And His rebuke with flames of fire.

16 For the Lord will execute judgment by afire
And by His bsword on all flesh,
And those slain by the Lord will be many.

17 “Those who sanctify and purify themselves to go to the agardens,
1Following one in the center,
Who eat bswine’s flesh, detestable things and mice,
Will ccome to an end altogether,” declares the Lord.

18 “For I 1know their works and their athoughts; 2the time is
coming to bgather all nations and tongues. And they shall come and see
My glory.

19 “I will set a asign among them and will send survivors from them
to the nations: bTarshish, 1Put, cLud, 2Meshech, Rosh, dTubal
and 3Javan, to the distant ecoastlands that have neither heard My
fame nor seen My glory. And they will fdeclare My glory among the nations.

20 “Then they shall abring all your brethren from all the nations as
a grain offering to the Lord, on horses, in chariots, in litters, on
mules and on camels, to My bholy mountain Jerusalem,” says the Lord,
“just as the sons of Israel bring their grain offering in a cclean
vessel to the house of the Lord.

21 “I will also take some of them for apriests and for Levites,”
says the Lord.

22 “For just as the anew heavens and the new earth
Which I make will endure before Me,” declares the Lord,
“So your boffspring and your cname will endure.

23 “And it shall be from anew moon to new moon
And from sabbath to sabbath,
All 1mankind will come to bbow down before Me,” says the Lord.

24 “Then they will go forth and look
On the acorpses of the men
Who have 1btransgressed against Me.
For their cworm will not die
dAnd their fire will not be quenched;
And they will be an eabhorrence to all 2mankind.”

[email protected] March 9th 05 05:12 PM

The New American Standard Bible, Updated Edition - 1995, in Isaiah 66,
places the eating of swine (pork) in the SAME category as the eating of

mice. Check it out.


"Check out the dietary laws in Leviticus. All shell fish are also
unclean. They are the ocean's filters, as are fish which do not have
scales and fins; i.e. the catfish. They are scum eaters. It's about
the same as washing your dishes and then "cooking" the dishrag for
lunch
- or maybe the air filter from your furnace or the air or oil filter
from your automobile. Go ahead! Enjoy your pork and shell fish! But

don't blame God when you come down with some disease!"

That information certainly had some practical value when it was
originally assembled. People knew but didn't understand why some
animals could make them sick if they were eaten so it was good advice
to follow. In todays world it is irrelevant because we know how to
clean and cook food. If the dietary habits of those animals are of
concern to you then you should visit a cattle feedlot or poultry ranch.
Did you know that non-bottom fish can also carry parasites because
they eat the smaller bottom feeders?

You need to look at the world around as it is now rather than blindly
following 2000 year old information.


Al Patrick March 9th 05 07:21 PM

wrote:

That information certainly had some practical value when it was
originally assembled. People knew but didn't understand why some
animals could make them sick if they were eaten so it was good advice
to follow. In todays world it is irrelevant because we know how to
clean and cook food. If the dietary habits of those animals are of
concern to you then you should visit a cattle feedlot or poultry ranch.
Did you know that non-bottom fish can also carry parasites because
they eat the smaller bottom feeders?

You need to look at the world around as it is now rather than blindly
following 2000 year old information.



Your logic seems perfectly plausible from a strictly "logical"
standpoint - and if you leave out the "God Factor"! I seriously doubt
that God is a bit "brighter" today than He was one hundred million years
ago.

Not all digestive systems are the same. A dog can eat things we cannot
because their digestive system if far different.

I have not studied this, but it is possible that clean fish can dispose
of the toxins they receive by eating the unclean fish -- if indeed, this
happens, and I do not doubt it. While they may not dispose of all of it
they may be better equipped to dispose of the toxins.



dxAce March 9th 05 07:30 PM



Al Patrick wrote:

wrote:

That information certainly had some practical value when it was
originally assembled. People knew but didn't understand why some
animals could make them sick if they were eaten so it was good advice
to follow. In todays world it is irrelevant because we know how to
clean and cook food. If the dietary habits of those animals are of
concern to you then you should visit a cattle feedlot or poultry ranch.
Did you know that non-bottom fish can also carry parasites because
they eat the smaller bottom feeders?

You need to look at the world around as it is now rather than blindly
following 2000 year old information.


Your logic seems perfectly plausible from a strictly "logical"
standpoint - and if you leave out the "God Factor"! I seriously doubt
that God is a bit "brighter" today than He was one hundred million years
ago.

Not all digestive systems are the same. A dog can eat things we cannot
because their digestive system if far different.

I have not studied this, but it is possible that clean fish can dispose
of the toxins they receive by eating the unclean fish -- if indeed, this
happens, and I do not doubt it. While they may not dispose of all of it
they may be better equipped to dispose of the toxins.


You've made me hungry for some nice pork B-B-Q or some dandy fried shrimp.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] March 9th 05 07:52 PM

I have no idea what the "god factor" is.

We as a species have been dining on beef pork, chicken, swimming fish,
shell fish for a very long time and continue to survive and multiply.
We have discovered that as long as you cook meat the chances of
ingesting a harmful organism are very low. The bottom feeders that you
express concern about may infact pick up poisons, but the larger
non-bottom feeding fish may actually have greater concentrations of
nasty things like mercury because they eat more of the smaller shorter
lived fish and tend to live longer. I would be far more concerned
about the non-organic beef sold in the stores that has been injected
with growth homones, estrogen and antibiotics that appears to remain at
some low level in the meat after slaughter.

We are better off looking toward the scientists and health authorities
for advice about healthful eating than the bible.


Stephen M.H. Lawrence March 9th 05 08:10 PM

"The time is coming," declares the Lord, "when I will make
a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of
Judah.I will put my law in their minds and write it on their
hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people."
(Jer. 31:31,33).

9About noon the following day as they were on their
journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the
roof to pray. 10He became hungry and wanted something
to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into
a trance. 11He saw heaven opened and something like
a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners.
12It contained all kinds of fourfooted animals, as well
as reptiles of the earth and birds of the air. 13Then a
voice told him, "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat."
14"Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have never
eaten anything impure or unclean."
15The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not
call anything impure that God has made clean."
(Acts 10)

14As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced
that no food is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards
something as unclean, then for him it is unclean.
(Romans 14:14)

Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen and
understand. What goes into a man's mouth does not make
him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what
makes him 'unclean.' "
(Matthew 15:10&11)

Al,

I think you're easily mislead.

73,

Steve



Al Patrick March 9th 05 09:10 PM

A new covenant does not mean the law is done away with. Christ said He
CAME NOT to destroy the law, but to fulfill it.

If He had, why not do away with the law of gravity, etc. also?

A quick cut and paste from elsewhere....

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The question remains: Why did Christians decide
to disregard these ancient food laws?
The answer lies in "Acts".

The first hint of a rejection of the food laws is found in Acts 10v9-16,
where it is recorded that Peter visited Cornelius. When Peter went to
prey he became hungry, then fell into a trance. He saw heaven open and a
great vessel descend holding all manner of beasts. A voice bid Peter to
eat but he refused on the grounds that he had never eaten anything
common or unclean. The voice replied: What God hath cleansed, that call
not thou uncommon.

The final rejection of the food laws (and indeed of most of the Jewish
Law) is found in Acts 15v24-29, where the meeting of the Council at
Jerusalem is recorded. The rejection comes in response to the Jewish
element directing that the Gentile Christians should be circumcised and
keep the Law. However the leaders of the fledgling Church claimed that
they had given no such commandment, considering that keeping to the
Jewish Law was a subversion of the soul. Instead it was decided:

to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; that
ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things
strangled, and from fornication Acts 15v29,29.

The death knell would have sounded for the early Christian Church had
its leaders insisted that their new Gentile members be circumcised and
keep the Jewish Law. They would have left in droves! Thus it was good
strategy on the part of the Council at Jerusalem to rescind the Jewish Law.

The way was open for Christians to eat Pork!

The Side Effects of Eating Pork

The side effects of eating Pork are well documented and attested.
Perhaps the most famous example is that of the Buddha who died from food
poisoning after eating a pork dinner. Other side effects of eating Pork
include: inflammation, itchiness, swelling, obesity,
meningo-encephalitis, arthritis, focal granulomas or abscesses, body
odour, bad breath, hot or cold flushes, headache, dizziness, heartburn,
seizures, stroke, epilepsy, ocular cysts and myelopathy.

The parasitic Trichinae Worm, which is also referred to as the Pork
Worm, is responsible for some horrific deaths among humans who eat Pork.
From the stomach the worm gradually invades the muscular system, but
the side effects are often attributed to other causes. Eventually the
lava mature into worms, die and calcify, forming cysts. At this stage
the disease is called Cysticercosis. However when the encysted worms
are found on any of: the brain, spinal cord, the membranes enclosing the
brain and spinal cord (meninges) or the eyes, then the disease is called
Neurocysticercosis.

In an article Pig Facts the process of development of the Trichinae
Worm is explained.

The Trichinae is enclosed in a little cyst or sac, which, when taken
into the stomach, is dissolved by the gastric juice and gradually
works its way throughout the whole muscular system.
In five to seven days the larvae mature in the muscles of the human
body. When they finish their life cycle they become encysted into the
internal organs of the host.
The pork worm is unable to be detected with the human eye and most
pathologists have reported that there is a possibility for nearly half a
million of trichinae to be found in each pound of muscle tissue of the
host.


========

Stephen M.H. Lawrence wrote:

"The time is coming," declares the Lord, "when I will make
a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of
Judah.I will put my law in their minds and write it on their
hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people."
(Jer. 31:31,33).

9About noon the following day as they were on their
journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the
roof to pray. 10He became hungry and wanted something
to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into
a trance. 11He saw heaven opened and something like
a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners.
12It contained all kinds of fourfooted animals, as well
as reptiles of the earth and birds of the air. 13Then a
voice told him, "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat."
14"Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have never
eaten anything impure or unclean."
15The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not
call anything impure that God has made clean."
(Acts 10)

14As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced
that no food is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards
something as unclean, then for him it is unclean.
(Romans 14:14)

Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen and
understand. What goes into a man's mouth does not make
him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what
makes him 'unclean.' "
(Matthew 15:10&11)

Al,

I think you're easily mislead.

73,

Steve



Al Patrick March 9th 05 09:17 PM

dxAce wrote:

You've made me hungry for some nice pork B-B-Q or some dandy fried shrimp.



Don't think I haven't eaten my share, and someone else's also, of both
of them. ...Even tried a all-you-can-eat Alaskan snow crab supper a few
times! One guy from Louisiana came back to a construction job I worked
once with about six bushel of craw fish / "craw-dads" and lots of us had
a feast. Have a "good" case of arthritis now. Hope you don't wind up
with the same!

dxAce March 9th 05 09:23 PM



Al Patrick wrote:

dxAce wrote:

You've made me hungry for some nice pork B-B-Q or some dandy fried shrimp.


Don't think I haven't eaten my share, and someone else's also, of both
of them. ...Even tried a all-you-can-eat Alaskan snow crab supper a few
times! One guy from Louisiana came back to a construction job I worked
once with about six bushel of craw fish / "craw-dads" and lots of us had
a feast. Have a "good" case of arthritis now. Hope you don't wind up
with the same!


Well, perhaps thats my problem with my neck vis a vis the accident.

Have to ask the specialist about that next Tuesday, however I doubt that there
is a correlation.

Cooking pork kills the worm.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce March 9th 05 09:37 PM



dxAce wrote:

Al Patrick wrote:

dxAce wrote:

You've made me hungry for some nice pork B-B-Q or some dandy fried shrimp.


Don't think I haven't eaten my share, and someone else's also, of both
of them. ...Even tried a all-you-can-eat Alaskan snow crab supper a few
times! One guy from Louisiana came back to a construction job I worked
once with about six bushel of craw fish / "craw-dads" and lots of us had
a feast. Have a "good" case of arthritis now. Hope you don't wind up
with the same!


Well, perhaps thats my problem with my neck vis a vis the accident.

Have to ask the specialist about that next Tuesday, however I doubt that there
is a correlation.

Cooking pork kills the worm.


And back in the days when those dietary laws were instituted no one had the
scientific evidence we had today, therefore they made sense.

Don't make the mistake that the Muslims make these days and try to stay rooted in
1000 year old beliefs.

It ain't workin.



BDK March 10th 05 12:37 AM

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Jeez, do you have the slightest connection to reality Al??

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I had to snip your drivel, it was nonsense anyway. Corrupted too, BTW.


BDK



Stinger March 10th 05 01:27 AM


"Al Patrick" wrote in message
...
A new covenant does not mean the law is done away with. Christ said He
CAME NOT to destroy the law, but to fulfill it.

If He had, why not do away with the law of gravity, etc. also?


186,000 miles per second. It's not just a good idea -- it's the law.

-- Stinger



running dogg March 10th 05 02:44 AM

dxAce wrote:



dxAce wrote:

Al Patrick wrote:

dxAce wrote:

You've made me hungry for some nice pork B-B-Q or some dandy fried shrimp.

Don't think I haven't eaten my share, and someone else's also, of both
of them. ...Even tried a all-you-can-eat Alaskan snow crab supper a few
times! One guy from Louisiana came back to a construction job I worked
once with about six bushel of craw fish / "craw-dads" and lots of us had
a feast. Have a "good" case of arthritis now. Hope you don't wind up
with the same!


Well, perhaps thats my problem with my neck vis a vis the accident.

Have to ask the specialist about that next Tuesday, however I doubt that there
is a correlation.

Cooking pork kills the worm.


And back in the days when those dietary laws were instituted no one had the
scientific evidence we had today, therefore they made sense.

Don't make the mistake that the Muslims make these days and try to stay rooted in
1000 year old beliefs.

It ain't workin.


I don't eat pork because it is very fatty meat. Ever cooked pork chops
in a convection oven? It leaves behind gobs of disgusting fat. It only
took me about a dozen times of cleaning that out before I swore off
pork. Even though I don't have the convection oven anymore, I still
won't eat pork. I don't eat shellfish because they secrete a toxin that
can be deadly. The CIA used to give spies shellfish toxin to take to
kill themselves if they were ever captured. If you don't cook the
shellfish right, you too will become paralyzed and die rather quickly.

In my Latin American History class (college diversity requirement) my
Mexican professor told us how his mother used to ask pork vendors to cut
off a thin slice from their pork chops so she could see how many trich
cysts there were, if there were too many she wouldn't buy it. And I once
had an old man tell me how his father ate some shellfish that didn't
taste right on a train. Later, his bunkmate noticed that his lips were
green. He tried to get up and couldn't move. Fortunately the train was
passing through a small town with a small hospital, and the man
survived, but five minutes later and he would have been dead.


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running dogg March 10th 05 02:52 AM

BDK wrote:

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says...
BDK wrote:

In article , arp@ NOSPAM inet4u.com
says...

BDK wrote:


In article , arp@ NOSPAM inet4u.com
says...


Pastor Peter J. Peters is preaching / teaching this morning on God's
health laws.

9985 now - 09:00 EST / 14:00 UTC

12.160 MHz at 12:00 EST / 17:00 UTC

5070 KHz at 11:00 PM | 23:00 EST / 04:00 UTC

He'll also be on at 10:00 pm | 22:00 EST / 03:00 UTC but not this same
message. The 10:00 PM message will repeat at 4:00 AM EST / 09:00 UTC.

This can also be heard via satellite on Telstar 5. Look for SFA or SFAW

It is also available as a live stream at
http://www.scripturesforamerica.org and the programs are archived there.
Look for today's date in the audio section.




When he cures whatever is eating at that brain of his, Be it Syphilis, a
tumor, an infection, or maybe just a hole in his head,
then I'll want to listen for anything more than a laugh..

BDK

It's probably not for you anyway. Go ahead and eat your mice and your
pork! The trichinosis is FREE! Sorry to have disturbed your slumber.



Pork, yes, nothing wrong with it cooked you know, the trichinosis is
killed when heated. Maybe you don't understand that.

But mice?? LOL.

Your kookery is mind boggling..

BDK


A google search for "eating mice" yielded over 3900 hits.

The New American Standard Bible, Updated Edition - 1995, in Isaiah 66,
places the eating of swine (pork) in the SAME category as the eating of
mice. Check it out.


Now there's an authority on nutrition! I'll check and see what's in my
truck's owners manual about Italian food. LOL.


"Do not cook lasagna on the engine of your new Chevy."



Check out the dietary laws in Leviticus.


Jeez, do you have the slightest connection to reality Al??


Do you REALLY want an answer to that question? The answer is of course
that he does not. Anybody who believes Kook SW has some serious reality
issues.

All shell fish are also
unclean. They are the ocean's filters, as are fish which do not have
scales and fins; i.e. the catfish. They are scum eaters. It's about
the same as washing your dishes and then "cooking" the dishrag for lunch
- or maybe the air filter from your furnace or the air or oil filter
from your automobile. Go ahead! Enjoy your pork and shell fish! But
don't blame God when you come down with some disease!


Please Al, get some help somewhere. I wouldn't want to eat a Catfish
caught wild in the nearby river, but farm raised catfish is about the
best fish there is, safety wise. Most Shrimp these days are also farm
raised. You are reading a book filled, and apparently basing your diet
on nonsense, superstitions and actually some common sense for conditions
2000 years ago. But things have changed now Al.


Shhh, don't tell him that! He'll start wondering why the Bible doesn't
mention cars and computers!


Especially read Isaiah 66:17,

⤽'Those who sanctify and purify themselves to go to the agardens,
1?Following one in the center,
Who eat bSWINE'S FLESH, DETESTABLE THINGS, AND MICE,
Will ccome to an end altogether,' declares the Lord."


Well, I'll pass on the mice...LOL


The Romans ate mice. Stuffed mice were considered a delicacy for much of
Rome's grandeur. That's probably where this prohibition comes from. The
Bible also forbids eating grapes because the Romans loved grapes.


[emphasis mine]

For the context go back to verse 10 and read through verse 24. It
discusses "Joy in Jerusalem=3Fs Future" through verse 14 and then talks
about the things which will befall the wicked.

The numbers and letters preceding some of the words refer to available
notes on that verse. I thought to delete them, but decided to allow you
to see that many of the verses do refer you to other verses throughout
the scriptures. Therefore, if a word doesn't look right, consider it
without the first letter or number. ;-)

------


I had to snip your drivel, it was nonsense anyway. Corrupted too, BTW.


I was wondering what all those funny characters were. :) Guess usenet
didn't like his enhanced bible text.


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Not any More March 10th 05 03:52 AM

Steve Lawrence wrote:
Al,
I think you're easily mislead.
73,
Steve

Hey Bro. Lawrence .. you're quite the Bible scholar. We should talk
sometime.

LW


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Honus March 10th 05 05:27 AM


"BDK" wrote in message
...


Hey one guy, Boatwright, thinks that they are talking about nuclear
ICBMs in it, sooo...?




I knew John P. Boatwright. You could take all of the most irritating and
crazy people posting to r.r.s, stuff them into one person, and not even
approach the lunacy that was him. Fortunately, he's been off of Usenet for
several years. People used to be afraid of using his name in a post for fear
of summoning him. IIRC he'd scan dejanews for instances of his name such as
this one, and lo and behold...he'd appear. NOT good.

His webpage is still online:

http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/index.html

The bit about nuclear bombs in the Bible can be found he

http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/nukes.htm




David Stinson March 10th 05 09:17 AM



Al Patrick wrote:
The New American Standard Bible, Updated Edition - 1995, in Isaiah 66,
places the eating of swine (pork) in the SAME category as the eating of
mice. Check it out.


Well, you and Jesus pass me your share of BBQed pork ribs,
will ya, Al? Thanks.... (yuuuuum, yum!).
You can keep the oysters and catfish; don't care for 'em.
But scallops? Pass them too, and tell Jesus
to stop hogging the Tarter sauce.

Carp have scales, Al. Ever seen what they eat?
It'll put you off your Post Toasties.

Just curious, Al: do you and your "significant other"
ever have sex just for fun, or is that a "sin?"

[email protected] March 10th 05 01:52 PM

And I suppose the lesson we can all learn from that amalgam of science
and biblical passages on pork is that Pork Sashimi is probably no
better for you than Beef Tartare, Fish Sushi, Raw Oysters, Clams On The
Half-Shell, Uncooked Turkey and any other form of raw meat. Pretty
much common sense these days to thoroughly cook your source of protein.



Al Patrick wrote:
A new covenant does not mean the law is done away with. Christ said

He
CAME NOT to destroy the law, but to fulfill it.

If He had, why not do away with the law of gravity, etc. also?

A quick cut and paste from elsewhere....

------------

The question remains: Why did Christians decide
to disregard these ancient food laws?
The answer lies in "Acts".

The first hint of a rejection of the food laws is found in Acts

10v9-16,
where it is recorded that Peter visited Cornelius. When Peter went to


prey he became hungry, then fell into a trance. He saw heaven open

and a
great vessel descend holding all manner of beasts. A voice bid Peter

to
eat but he refused on the grounds that he had never eaten anything
common or unclean. The voice replied: "What God hath cleansed, that

call
not thou uncommon."

The final rejection of the food laws (and indeed of most of the

Jewish
Law) is found in Acts 15v24-29, where the meeting of the Council at
Jerusalem is recorded. The rejection comes in response to the Jewish
element directing that the Gentile Christians should be circumcised

and
keep the Law. However the leaders of the fledgling Church claimed

that
they had given no such commandment, considering that keeping to the
Jewish Law was a subversion of the soul. Instead it was decided:

"... to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;

that
ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from

things
strangled, and from fornication ..." Acts 15v29,29.

The death knell would have sounded for the early Christian Church had


its leaders insisted that their new Gentile members be circumcised

and
keep the Jewish Law. They would have left in droves! Thus it was good


strategy on the part of the Council at Jerusalem to rescind the

Jewish Law.

The way was open for Christians to eat Pork!

The Side Effects of Eating Pork

The side effects of eating Pork are well documented and attested.
Perhaps the most famous example is that of the Buddha who died from

food
poisoning after eating a pork dinner. Other side effects of eating

Pork
include: inflammation, itchiness, swelling, obesity,
meningo-encephalitis, arthritis, focal granulomas or abscesses, body
odour, bad breath, hot or cold flushes, headache, dizziness,

heartburn,
seizures, stroke, epilepsy, ocular cysts and myelopathy.

The parasitic Trichinae Worm, which is also referred to as the Pork
Worm, is responsible for some horrific deaths among humans who eat

Pork.
From the stomach the worm gradually invades the muscular system,

but
the side effects are often attributed to other causes. Eventually the


lava mature into worms, die and calcify, forming cysts. At this stage


the disease is called "Cysticercosis". However when the encysted

worms
are found on any of: the brain, spinal cord, the membranes enclosing

the
brain and spinal cord (meninges) or the eyes, then the disease is

called
"Neurocysticercosis".

In an article "Pig Facts" the process of development of the

Trichinae
Worm is explained.

"The Trichinae is enclosed in a little cyst or sac, which, when

taken
into the stomach, is dissolved by the gastric juice ...and ...

gradually
works its way throughout the whole muscular system.
In five to seven days the larvae mature in the muscles of the human
body. When they finish their life cycle they become encysted into the


internal organs of the host.
The pork worm is unable to be detected with the human eye and most
pathologists have reported that there is a possibility for nearly

half a
million of trichinae to be found in each pound of muscle tissue of

the
host."


========

Stephen M.H. Lawrence wrote:

"The time is coming," declares the Lord, "when I will make
a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of
Judah.I will put my law in their minds and write it on their
hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people."
(Jer. 31:31,33).

9About noon the following day as they were on their
journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the
roof to pray. 10He became hungry and wanted something
to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into
a trance. 11He saw heaven opened and something like
a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners.
12It contained all kinds of fourfooted animals, as well
as reptiles of the earth and birds of the air. 13Then a
voice told him, "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat."
14"Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have never
eaten anything impure or unclean."
15The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not
call anything impure that God has made clean."
(Acts 10)

14As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced
that no food is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards
something as unclean, then for him it is unclean.
(Romans 14:14)

Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen and
understand. What goes into a man's mouth does not make
him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what
makes him 'unclean.' "
(Matthew 15:10&11)

Al,

I think you're easily mislead.

73,

Steve




dxAce March 10th 05 02:04 PM



wrote:

And I suppose the lesson we can all learn from that amalgam of science
and biblical passages on pork is that Pork Sashimi is probably no
better for you than Beef Tartare, Fish Sushi, Raw Oysters, Clams On The
Half-Shell, Uncooked Turkey and any other form of raw meat. Pretty
much common sense these days to thoroughly cook your source of protein.


Most things in life come down to common sense. Those old dietary laws, rules,
etc. may have made perfect sense back in the day, but now we generally know how
to cook and properly prepare food.

I personally don't want to live as many are wont to do back a thousand years or
more.

There was no radio!

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Stephen M.H. Lawrence March 10th 05 05:52 PM


"Not any More" wrote in message
ups.com...
Steve Lawrence wrote:
Al,
I think you're easily mislead.
73,
Steve

Hey Bro. Lawrence .. you're quite the Bible scholar. We should talk
sometime.

LW


(Chuckling)

WHERE you been, Brother El Dubyah?

73,

SL




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