It was pointed out here a while back that Ernst Zundel was not involved with the
program 'American Dissident Voices' but rather was involved with the program
'Voice of Freedom'...

That program apparently was carried at least by WRNO back in the early 90's.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

That minor 'correction' is still regardless of the
facts that Zundel is a neo-nazi Israeli hating scumbag
who incited people like Mcveigh, Nichols and their ilk.
ADV and VoF b'csts were two of the same, period.

Hopefully he will now slowly die in some isolation cell in
Germany now that he's back on his "native soil".

Now wouldn't that be the irony to end all.......? ; )

----------

ps: Here's something that will drive the right wing whackjobs
completely nuts -- Zundel convicted and M. Jackson walks... (just wait an
see)

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
It was pointed out here a while back that Ernst Zundel was not involved
with the
program 'American Dissident Voices' but rather was involved with the
program
'Voice of Freedom'...

That program apparently was carried at least by WRNO back in the early
90's.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Of the loving Israelis:


http://www.ussliberty.org/



"Menachem Begin
He was responsible for the bombing of Jerusalem's King David Hotel, at
that time a British administrative and military headquarters, that killed
91 people."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menachem_Begin


"Yitzhak Shamir
After Stern was killed by the British in 1942, Shamir escaped from the
detention camp and became one of the three leaders of the group in 1943,
reforming it as "Lehi". During his tenure, the Lehi was responsible for
many deeds, including the 1944 assassination of Britain's minister of
state for the Middle East, Lord Moyne, and the 1948 assassination of the
United Nations representative in the Middle East, Count Folke
Bernadotte."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yitzhak_Shamir


Ariel Sharon
"The present Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, has long been involved
in terror. In 1983, he was found indirectly, but personally, responsible
for a civilian massacre by Lebanese militia in two Palestinian refugee
camps. At least 800 innocent men, women and children were murdered in
cold blood, most of them Palestinians, after Sharon ordered his men to
allow the militiamen access to the camps.

.....which between 460 and 3500 Palestinian civilians in the refugee camps
were killed."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Sharon



For some reason, when U.S. Allies are involved, it's freedom fighting,
when anyone else does the same thing, it's terror.

Go Figure.


"Judge not, that ye be not judged.

For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what
measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but
considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of
thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then
shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Matt 7:1-6

Dr. Artaud


P.S. is the following your post from the Alt.tasteless newsgroup? Found
it from a Google Group Search. Do you have your trailer paid off yet? You
can tell a person by the company that they keep.


"wagginitproud" wrote in message

"ah fer **** sakes there were less than 20 plants on psycho boys'
property. he just hated cops plain and simple. snuck up on them and blew
them away. the details get more interesting by the day.

he got nailed at some point fer ****ing a teen boy etc...

spent some time in jail a coupla years..no different than trailer trash
in the south US


"wagginitproud" wrote in
groups.com:


That minor 'correction' is still regardless of the
facts that Zundel is a neo-nazi Israeli hating scumbag
who incited people like Mcveigh, Nichols and their ilk.
ADV and VoF b'csts were two of the same, period.

Hopefully he will now slowly die in some isolation cell in
Germany now that he's back on his "native soil".

Now wouldn't that be the irony to end all.......? ; )

For some reason, when U.S. Allies are involved, it's freedom fighting,
when anyone else does the same thing, it's terror.

Go Figure.


Ditto for the Islamic States.
You decide who are the "freedom fighters".
Then defect!

Just what is a "neo-nazi".

"Li Changchun" wrote in
:

Nowhere is my post endorsing Islamic States. You have engaged in the same
subterfuge so common to someone incapable of addressing the facts, i.e.
say something irrelevant to the point.

Did you peruse the information at the listed links, or merely judge them
as untrue as they don't support your view on life? Wrong is wrong,
regardless of who perpetrates it. The Israelis were wrong in the cited
examples. The Arabs are wrong in the continuing acts of terrorism.

Nothing is going to change in world politics if we continue to focus on
specific groups and exonerate other groups of the same crimes. Have you
ever watched movies (I'm sure that you have). At least the movies
produced in America have stereotypical villains. Republicans, Germans,
Christians, Arabs, and Caucasians. That's about the extent. Movie after
movie inculcating the public that people from these groups are not to be
trusted.

All men are stupid, all women are single (or single mothers),and all
Arabs are crazy machinegun toting maniacs. How is this going to help
anything?

And you, I see that you are with the "Chinese Communist Party". How
exactly do you enter the fray of the discussion? History has rightly
condemned the acts of the Nazis during WWII, but has been stifled on the
cases that I cited. People should have free access to the facts and be
able to come to their own conclusions, not have them forced on them by
politically correct mores.

Regards

Dr. Artaud

P.S., are you involved in shortwave and are you from China? (This may be
self evident to others on the group, pardon me if this is something that
I should have noticed from other posts). Do you know the times in UTC and
frequencies for English Language shows from China?










For some reason, when U.S. Allies are involved, it's freedom fighting,
when anyone else does the same thing, it's terror.

Go Figure.


Ditto for the Islamic States.
You decide who are the "freedom fighters".
Then defect!

wrote in news:1110585776.455499.319650
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

Assuming that your post is not facetious, a little etymology is in order.
Neo, used as a prefix, means "New". Thus, when you discover that your
contact lens fits too tight, and you have been careless for too long,
your cornea will develop Neo-vascularization. This means new vascular
growth in the cornea. (considering that you shouldn't have any
vascularization in your cornea, this isn't good news).

From the online dictionary:

"Main Entry: ne-
Variant(s): or neo-
Function: combining form
Etymology: Greek, from neos new -- more at NEW
1 a : new : recent Neogene b : new and different period or form of
Neoplatonism : in a new and different form or manner Neoplatonic c :
New World Neotropical d : new and abnormal neoplasm


Oddly enough, look at the meaning of the word Vascularization:

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?
book=Dictionary&va=vascularization&x=9&y=14

"Main Entry: vas·cu·lar·i·za·tion
Pronunciation: "vas-ky&-l&-r&-'zA-sh&n
Function: noun
: the process of becoming vascular; also : abnormal or excessive
formation of blood vessels (as in the retina or on the cornea)"

What a coincidence, I didn't plan the juxtaposition of the two words, it
just worked out that way.

Go Figure.

Anyway, if your post was facetious, oh well. Perhaps others can learn.
(The true meaning behind Neo).

Regards

Dr. Artaud


Just what is a "neo-nazi".

Well, I am certainly gratified to learn that your definition agrees
with mine and that we both are adept at using the dictionary. However
"wagginitproud" was the one who used that phrase, and I suspect he has
no idea what the real meaning is. I was hoping that he would respond,
but alas no.
Having read his post I suspect he is quite adept at throwing around
phrases and otherwise performing public mind dumps, with little
understanding of what the words mean. Like the term Nazi.

To be more specific Dr. Utopia did not, does not and will never exist.

If you believe that Islam is the path to social redemption then take that
path.
If you believe that Democracy is the correct path then follow it.
If you are accosted while embarked choose your weapon.
If you do not choose a weapon you will simply cease to exist.

Mankind has fought over "ideologies" since the beginning of time.
It is embedded in his nature. Let nature takes its course.
For it will be nature who most benefits.

"* Dr. Artaud *" wrote in message
...
"Li Changchun" wrote in
:

Nowhere is my post endorsing Islamic States. You have engaged in the same
subterfuge so common to someone incapable of addressing the facts, i.e.
say something irrelevant to the point.

Did you peruse the information at the listed links, or merely judge them
as untrue as they don't support your view on life? Wrong is wrong,
regardless of who perpetrates it. The Israelis were wrong in the cited
examples. The Arabs are wrong in the continuing acts of terrorism.

Nothing is going to change in world politics if we continue to focus on
specific groups and exonerate other groups of the same crimes. Have you
ever watched movies (I'm sure that you have). At least the movies
produced in America have stereotypical villains. Republicans, Germans,
Christians, Arabs, and Caucasians. That's about the extent. Movie after
movie inculcating the public that people from these groups are not to be
trusted.

All men are stupid, all women are single (or single mothers),and all
Arabs are crazy machinegun toting maniacs. How is this going to help
anything?

And you, I see that you are with the "Chinese Communist Party". How
exactly do you enter the fray of the discussion? History has rightly
condemned the acts of the Nazis during WWII, but has been stifled on the
cases that I cited. People should have free access to the facts and be
able to come to their own conclusions, not have them forced on them by
politically correct mores.

Regards

Dr. Artaud

P.S., are you involved in shortwave and are you from China? (This may be
self evident to others on the group, pardon me if this is something that
I should have noticed from other posts). Do you know the times in UTC and
frequencies for English Language shows from China?










For some reason, when U.S. Allies are involved, it's freedom fighting,
when anyone else does the same thing, it's terror.

Go Figure.


Ditto for the Islamic States.
You decide who are the "freedom fighters".
Then defect!

This religious war has been fought for centuries - the religious borders
between Judeo/Christians and Muslims and their influence on geopolitical
borders in European & M.E. States.

It should come as no surprise to free westerners that Islamic states must
use the brutal dictatorship of socialist/communist fascism, under the guise
of the Koran, to remain in power.
________________________________________________

Christian-Sunni opposition rejects new pro-Syrian government

Beirut (AsiaNews) - Lebanon's Christian opposition has called the
reappointment of Omar Karami to the post of Prime Minister "Rafik Hariri's
second assassination" and has said it would not participate in the new
pro-Syrian government.
....
The Christian opposition yesterday met at Kornet Chehawan in the presence of
the Maronite Bishop of Antelias and under the auspices of Maronite Patriarch
Nasrallah Sfeir.

In a statement released after the meeting, the members of the Christian
opposition urged all Lebanese to pursue the struggle for Lebanon's
independence from Syria and expressed their solidarity with the other
sectors of the opposition, i.e. Sunnis and Druze.
....
http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=2749
________________________________________________

Hizbullah Leader Nasrallah at Pro-Syrian Beirut Rally:
If U.S. Navy Fleet Returns to Lebanon They Will Be Defeated Again

http://memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=594%20

"We say to Syria, as your president, Bashar Al-Assad has said: "In Lebanon,
your presence in not material or military. You are present in the souls, the
hearts, the minds, the present, the past, and the future." I say to you, no
one can get Syria out of Lebanon, or out of its mind, its heart, and its
future.

"We emphasize that any mechanism for Syria's remaining or withdrawing from
Lebanon must be subject only to the Al-Taef agreement. We, who are gathered
here, have come to tell the world that we reject resolution 1559.

"Lebanon is a unique case. Lebanon is not like Somalia, in case you are
thinking of military intervention. Lebanon is not Ukraine. Lebanon is not
Ukraine. Lebanon is not Georgia. Lebanon is Lebanon, a unique case in this
world. If there are those who think that they can bring this country down,
with its regime, its security, its stability, and its strategic choices,
with their connections, their positions and sponsors, with some
demonstrations, some scarves, some slogans, and some the media - then they
are wrong.

"I address the following to America. I address the following to America. I
say to President Bush. And to Ms. Condoleezza Rice. and to the
American-Lebanese field commander, Satterfield: You are wrong about Lebanon.
You are wrong about Lebanon. Lebanon rejects the partition. Lebanon rejects
civil strife.

"Lebanon rejects defeat. And I say to you, this Lebanon rejects death. Never
will Lebanon change its name, its history, its identity, or its attire.
Lebanon will not tear off its skin, or throw its heart to your soldiers'
dogs so they will eat it. Lebanon will remain the Lebanon of the homeland,
of Arab identity, the Lebanon of the resistance, the Lebanon of the entire
nation.

"I ask you. You can make yourself heard by the commander of the American
forces in the region, who is of Lebanese origin, John Abizaid - Are you
Lebanese afraid of the American naval fleets? These naval fleets have come
in the past, and were defeated, and if they come again, they will be
defeated again. I say to the Americans: 'Don't interfere in our internal
affairs.

"Let us be, and keep your ambassador in his embassy in Awkar. He should let
us Lebanese be. We Lebanese are the most devoted to our homeland, to
defending our homeland, to the existence of our state, to our national
unity, to our life together, and to our internal peace. Remove your
fingers - the fingers of civil strife - from our country.

"To Syria we say: Long live Assad's Syria! Long live Assad's Syria! Long
live Assad's Syria! Long live Assad's Syria! Long live Assad's Syria! Long
live Assad's Syria! The den of the lion (Assad) in Damascus will remain a
den for all the lions of Lebanon."

http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD87805

"* Dr. Artaud *" wrote in message
...
"Li Changchun" wrote in
:

Nowhere is my post endorsing Islamic States. You have engaged in the
same
subterfuge so common to someone incapable of addressing the facts, i.e.
say something irrelevant to the point.

Did you peruse the information at the listed links, or merely judge them
as untrue as they don't support your view on life? Wrong is wrong,
regardless of who perpetrates it. The Israelis were wrong in the cited
examples. The Arabs are wrong in the continuing acts of terrorism.

Nothing is going to change in world politics if we continue to focus on
specific groups and exonerate other groups of the same crimes. Have you
ever watched movies (I'm sure that you have). At least the movies
produced in America have stereotypical villains. Republicans, Germans,
Christians, Arabs, and Caucasians. That's about the extent. Movie after
movie inculcating the public that people from these groups are not to be
trusted.

All men are stupid, all women are single (or single mothers),and all
Arabs are crazy machinegun toting maniacs. How is this going to help
anything?

And you, I see that you are with the "Chinese Communist Party". How
exactly do you enter the fray of the discussion? History has rightly
condemned the acts of the Nazis during WWII, but has been stifled on the
cases that I cited. People should have free access to the facts and be
able to come to their own conclusions, not have them forced on them by
politically correct mores.

Regards

Dr. Artaud

P.S., are you involved in shortwave and are you from China? (This may be
self evident to others on the group, pardon me if this is something that
I should have noticed from other posts). Do you know the times in UTC
and
frequencies for English Language shows from China?










For some reason, when U.S. Allies are involved, it's freedom
fighting,
when anyone else does the same thing, it's terror.

Go Figure.


Ditto for the Islamic States.
You decide who are the "freedom fighters".
Then defect!