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[email protected] March 11th 05 08:49 PM

new grundig E1 on ebay ! is this a scam ?????
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ADME:B:SS:US:1


Sir_Oblivion March 11th 05 09:01 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ADME:B:SS:US:1


I wouldn't bid on it, the seller inflated his eBay reputation with penny
auctions. In fact he has zero feedback as a seller.



[email protected] March 11th 05 09:57 PM

even a picture of the item sitting on a table
in the sellers home/office would lend
some credibility to this sale. Interesting rig,
though, I can understand the impulse to take a chance!


MnMikew March 11th 05 09:59 PM


"Sir_Oblivion" wrote in message
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wrote in message
oups.com...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ADME:B:SS:US:1


I wouldn't bid on it, the seller inflated his eBay reputation with penny
auctions. In fact he has zero feedback as a seller.

Looks to me that ALL his feedback is as a seller. Though all the feedbacks
are from cheap junk, now suddenly hes selling lots of high end stuff.
Hummmmmm.



[email protected] March 11th 05 11:01 PM


wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ADME:B:SS:US:1

I think it is a scam, but probably no more of a scam than when you
purchase a new one from Eton for $500.

Steve


Ernie March 11th 05 11:46 PM

Have a friend that bought one....not much of a radio according to him....He
says ...NOT worth 500$ ....Equals a YB-400 LOL!

I think he is gonna unload his on ebay soon too.


Notice how you CANT pick that one up? ship only no pick ups! Buyer Beware!

Would be tough to get your money if he dont have the radio when you go to
pick it up in person now would it!

Nick
wrote in message
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wrote:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ADME:B:SS:US:1

I think it is a scam, but probably no more of a scam than when you
purchase a new one from Eton for $500.

Steve




[email protected] March 12th 05 12:00 AM

I'm sure it will sell well on looks alone...it would make a great desk
decoration.


wrote:
wrote:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ADME:B:SS:US:1

I think it is a scam, but probably no more of a scam than when you
purchase a new one from Eton for $500.

Steve



Invader3K March 12th 05 12:13 AM

I'm always hesitant with auctions that just show a stock photo of the
item, simply pulled from a website somewhere.


Jim Hackett March 12th 05 04:29 AM

I wrote the guy a letter and he seemed genuinely surprised to hear that it
doesn't exist yet. He pulled the auction...



wrote in message
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...PageName= ADM
E:B:SS:US:1

I think it is a scam, but probably no more of a scam than when you
purchase a new one from Eton for $500.

Steve




Jim Douglas March 12th 05 11:13 AM

I sent a message to him indicating that I would pay $$ for this! Let's see
what he says! Also the auction was NOT pulled as of 5:10AM CST this morning!

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ADME:B:SS:US:1




Sanjaya March 12th 05 11:50 AM

wrote in message oups.com...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ADME:B:SS:US:1


Accepted PayPal payments for the other items.
Wants money order or cashier's check for the radio.



dxAce March 12th 05 12:23 PM



Jim Douglas wrote:

I sent a message to him indicating that I would pay $$ for this! Let's see
what he says! Also the auction was NOT pulled as of 5:10AM CST this morning!


Has anyone actually asked him if he has the radio? According to Universal the radio is to
be released in mid-2005.

How did this fellow get one?

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Dan March 12th 05 12:32 PM


Check out the responses;
all 100 % Positive;
and the items for sale..

all have the same " Time Left" on the bid..

There was some kid recently arrested for selling stuff on Ebay;
- stuff that didn't exist

( Buyer Beware..)


Dan March 12th 05 12:42 PM


Item Location.. Brooklyn , N.Y.

- Show up with the cash on a streetcorner
yeah, right...


[email protected] March 12th 05 05:09 PM

I also wrote to this person, inquiring how they came to have this radio
prior to its release. They wrote back:

I am very sorry for this misunderstanding. I went through the internet
and I think this one really is not released yet. I was mistaken by my
providers, they may mixed-up something. Thank you for reminding me
this. I shell take this item out of auction

And yet, the auction continues. I just pulled it up on ebay. I'm not
sure this person can end the auction now that there are 9 bids on the
item, can he?

Steve


[email protected] March 12th 05 05:18 PM

The title of this thread is interesting.

New *grundig E1* on ebay....

I'll bet a lot of people will associate this radio with Grundig even
though Grundig has absolutely, positively nothing to do with it.

I'm even curious to what extent Drake has had a hand in designing this
radio. They've obviously played some role, but you can scour the Drake
website from top to bottom and never see any discussion of the
E1XM--whereas you can't miss the Satellit 800 and it's up for sale
directly from Drake. Whatever role Drake had with this receiver, it
appears to have been pretty minimal.

But hey, who can resist paying tabletop prices for portable
performance?

Steve


[email protected] March 12th 05 05:21 PM

Correction: I don't see anything about the 800 on Drake's website now.
I wonder what, if anything, that means?

Steve


Sanjaya March 12th 05 07:29 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...
I also wrote to this person, inquiring how they came to have this radio
prior to its release. They wrote back:

I am very sorry for this misunderstanding. I went through the internet
and I think this one really is not released yet. I was mistaken by my
providers, they may mixed-up something. Thank you for reminding me
this. I shell take this item out of auction

And yet, the auction continues. I just pulled it up on ebay. I'm not
sure this person can end the auction now that there are 9 bids on the
item, can he?

Steve


Concerned eBay members can report items they think might be fraudulent by accessing
http://pages.ebay.com/help/contact_inline/index.html and using the 3 steps for contacting eBay.
1. "report a listing policy violation or prohibited (banned) item"
2. "Fraudulent listings"
3. "report a listing you think is fraudulent (you didn't bid)"

Someone doing that might indicate in their report that a reputable company like
universal-radio.com says the radio is not expected to be released until mid 2005.
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0101.html

I'd guess we'd find out if the auction can be removed if that happens.



Jim Hackett March 12th 05 07:43 PM

I wrote to eBay explaining this fact the other day. That the auction is
STILL running tells me a lot about where eBay's priorities are!



"Sanjaya" wrote in message
nk.net...

wrote in message
oups.com...
I also wrote to this person, inquiring how they came to have this radio
prior to its release. They wrote back:

I am very sorry for this misunderstanding. I went through the internet
and I think this one really is not released yet. I was mistaken by my
providers, they may mixed-up something. Thank you for reminding me
this. I shell take this item out of auction

And yet, the auction continues. I just pulled it up on ebay. I'm not
sure this person can end the auction now that there are 9 bids on the
item, can he?

Steve


Concerned eBay members can report items they think might be fraudulent by

accessing
http://pages.ebay.com/help/contact_inline/index.html and using the 3 steps

for contacting eBay.
1. "report a listing policy violation or prohibited (banned) item"
2. "Fraudulent listings"
3. "report a listing you think is fraudulent (you didn't bid)"

Someone doing that might indicate in their report that a reputable company

like
universal-radio.com says the radio is not expected to be released until

mid 2005.
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0101.html

I'd guess we'd find out if the auction can be removed if that happens.





Brenda Ann March 13th 05 12:03 AM


wrote in message
oups.com...
I also wrote to this person, inquiring how they came to have this radio
prior to its release. They wrote back:

I am very sorry for this misunderstanding. I went through the internet
and I think this one really is not released yet. I was mistaken by my
providers, they may mixed-up something. Thank you for reminding me
this. I shell take this item out of auction

And yet, the auction continues. I just pulled it up on ebay. I'm not
sure this person can end the auction now that there are 9 bids on the
item, can he?



I had this argument with a buyer a few months ago. Yes, a person CAN end an
auction, even if it has bids on it.

1) if the item becomes unavailable (i.e. broken or otherwise)
2) if the seller has decided not to sell the item (this actually goes with
1) above)
3) to sell the item to the highest current bidder

Yes, it's all there in the rules.




Sanjaya March 13th 05 10:51 AM


wrote in message oups.com...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ADME:B:SS:US:1


Bidding ended due to "error in listing".




dxAce March 13th 05 12:00 PM



Sanjaya wrote:

wrote in message oups.com...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ADME:B:SS:US:1


Bidding ended due to "error in listing".


That was apparently some error!

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Sanjaya March 13th 05 12:28 PM


"dxAce" wrote in message ...


Sanjaya wrote:

wrote in message

oups.com...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ADME:B:SS:US:1


Bidding ended due to "error in listing".


That was apparently some error!


Yeah. "Oops. I listed an item that doesn't exist"



[email protected] March 13th 05 12:30 PM

Just you wait. In a few weeks this same seller will have a Drake R9 up
for auction, or a Kneisner and Doering KWZ50.

Steve


dxAce March 13th 05 12:39 PM



wrote:

Just you wait. In a few weeks this same seller will have a Drake R9 up
for auction, or a Kneisner and Doering KWZ50.


Hmmmmm... Drake R9... I just wonder if the reason that Drake has limited
availability up on their website for the R8B is that they are trying to sell off
the remaining stock before introducing a newer model?

On the other hand, I spoke to Drake last year and they indicated at that time
that there were no plans to introduce another receiver... the R8B was it.

Guess we'll have to keep watching Universal to see what comes up on their R8B
page, at present there is no indication there of limited availability or
discontinuation.

It'll be a sad day if Drake once again leaves the receiver market.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] March 13th 05 02:48 PM

-=jd=- wrote:
I'm not sure about eBay rules on cancelling a listing but at the very


least, he could update the description to indicate the radio has not

yet
been released or provide an expected availability date. If someone

*still*
wants to bid on it after that -- Hey, some folks *like* to roll

dice...

-=jd=-


I, too, wrote to the seller, but I also reported him to eBay as a
potential fraud. I got the same, poorly written, boilerplate response
from him, but he added this line;

"I have a supplier who pays me just a commission from this selling. I
have just started here; I have just sold a several books before."

My message to eBay went something like this;

"Message: The item in question isn't even released to the public yet.
After looking at the sellers account and previous sales, all they did
was sell one cent books, to artificially inflate their feedback rating.
Now that they hit 20, with a gold star, everything they are listing is
primarily high tech electronics, and other high value goods, with the
following payment instructions; "We only take Money Orders, Cashier's
Checks, Western Union or Money Gram transaction payments for the
auction.". Furthermore, they never show an actual photo of any of the
merchandise, only pictures lifted from other websites...Something is
most definitely not right with this set up. Please look into this; I
know something is fishy here. Thanks."


I'd almost be willing to bid on something, and then insist that we use
eBay's escrow.com service for payment. I think I'll ask him about it,
since it's my right to protect myself with this service, according to
eBay's rules.

Way too fishy, though. The name looks to be from the old Soviet
Georgia. Hmmm, that couldn't be a scam, could it?



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