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Ryan Logan April 16th 05 12:44 AM

Good SW Radio
 
Can anyone suggest a good, powerful, relatively small, battery operated
shortwave radio? I have a Sony ICS-SW20 right now but some frequencies
that I find are not on the dial. I was looking at the Grundig Yacht Boy
400PE. Anyone have one of those or can anyone say something about it?
Also, can someone recommend some interesting/good shows that I may be able
to get on the radio I already have?

Thanks in advance.
--Ryan

Sanjaya April 16th 05 12:54 AM


"Ryan Logan" wrote in message
ocaldomain...
Can anyone suggest a good, powerful, relatively small, battery operated
shortwave radio? I have a Sony ICS-SW20 right now but some frequencies
that I find are not on the dial. I was looking at the Grundig Yacht Boy
400PE. Anyone have one of those or can anyone say something about it?
Also, can someone recommend some interesting/good shows that I may be able
to get on the radio I already have?

Thanks in advance.
--Ryan


I will suggest a Degen DE1103 at the risk of incurring the wrath of xenophobes
bigots and isolationists who haven't PLONKed me yet.



Dan April 16th 05 01:02 AM


I agree with Sanjaya.... just from reviews and comments on this board.

http://www.radiointel.com/phil/2005_phil_port_guide.pdf

I used to have a Sony 7600 G series. ( Quite good )
Currently I have a Sangean 606A;
No SSB but aside from that quite good.

Degen DE1103 is a generation above

Dan
( Doubtless incurring the wrath of xenophobes
bigots and isolationists who haven't PLONKed me yet )


Sanjaya April 16th 05 01:04 AM


"Dan" wrote in message
oups.com...

I agree with Sanjaya.... just from reviews and comments on this board.

http://www.radiointel.com/phil/2005_phil_port_guide.pdf

I used to have a Sony 7600 G series. ( Quite good )
Currently I have a Sangean 606A;
No SSB but aside from that quite good.

Degen DE1103 is a generation above

Dan
( Doubtless incurring the wrath of xenophobes
bigots and isolationists who haven't PLONKed me yet )


Shaking your hand and having a good laugh : )



Conan Ford April 16th 05 01:38 AM

Ryan Logan wrote in
ocaldomain:

Can anyone suggest a good, powerful, relatively small, battery
operated shortwave radio? I have a Sony ICS-SW20 right now but some
frequencies that I find are not on the dial. I was looking at the
Grundig Yacht Boy 400PE. Anyone have one of those or can anyone say
something about it? Also, can someone recommend some interesting/good
shows that I may be able to get on the radio I already have?

Thanks in advance.
--Ryan


If you're considering a YB-400PE, I know it is readily available at Radio
Shack (the G4000A is also the same). However, I suggest you consider a
Sony ICF-7600GR, it is about the same price but a superior radio.

Li Changchun April 16th 05 02:11 AM


I will suggest a Degen DE1103 at the risk of incurring the wrath of

xenophobes
bigots and isolationists who haven't PLONKed me yet.


Get the Sony ICF-SW7600GR - it will last far longer than any Degen Chinese
junk
which is riddled with RF images, by the way.

Speaking of Chinese bigots and isolationists - have you heard about the
Chinese
rioting against Japanese goods? The Communist government has got them all
whipped up into a nationalistic xenophobic frenzy to redirect the locals
anger away from the dictatorial Communists - LOL!

Support the your local anti-Communist China product - buy Japanese.



snow April 16th 05 02:14 AM

I own a Degen 1103 and it is excellant. Rock solid reception. Check Ebay for
deals. I think it is about $70 I payed, including shipping.
"Ryan Logan" wrote in message
ocaldomain...
Can anyone suggest a good, powerful, relatively small, battery operated
shortwave radio? I have a Sony ICS-SW20 right now but some frequencies
that I find are not on the dial. I was looking at the Grundig Yacht Boy
400PE. Anyone have one of those or can anyone say something about it?
Also, can someone recommend some interesting/good shows that I may be able
to get on the radio I already have?

Thanks in advance.
--Ryan




Li Changchun April 16th 05 02:07 PM


"running dogg" wrote in message
...

Actually, most of the anger against the Commies is in the countryside
from what I've heard, not in the cities where the demonstrations have
been happening. The cityfolk are doing relatively well under capitalism,
and people who aren't hungry and broke are less likely to rebel. Face
reality, Li-the CCP isn't going anywhere, and as long as they keep their
populace fed they won't. People across the world will tolerate
outrageous abuses of power as long as they personally are well fed and
comfy. The Republicans know this, for example.


Veterans protest against the Communist Party in Beijing

Beijing (AsiaNews/Reuters) - About 2,000 retired People's Liberation
Army (PLA) servicemen protested in Beijing, demanding pension
increases.

On Monday and Tuesday, 1,500 retired PLA officers from 20 provinces
wearing their old uniforms staged silent sit-down protests in front of
the General Political Department, a branch of the PLA which oversees
personnel, propaganda dissemination, song and dance troupes and
athletes.

On Wednesday, more than 400 retired rank-and-file soldiers staged a
similar, albeit brief protest.

Police and officials dispersed the protest by forcibly putting the
petitioners on rented buses and sending them back to their hometowns.

The back-to-back demonstrations from Monday to Wednesday (April 11-13)
were the biggest by veterans in China since the 1949 revolution.

"The government was caught unprepared . . . It is worried veterans
will continue to link up and bring chaos to society," an anonymous
source said.

The Chinese government allocated US$ 60 billion to its military budget
in 2004, but pensions for retired servicemen average 300 yuan (US$
30).

The authorities are concerned about the dissent among armed forces
veterans because the Communist Party has always relied on the PLA to
maintain its five-decade-old monopoly on power

The demonstrations were all the more unnerving for Beijing which sent
PLA troops backed by tanks to crush student-led pro-democracy
demonstrations in Beijing's Tiananmen Square on June 4, 1989.

The PLA also played a crucial role in ending the Cultural Revolution
and removing the Gang of Four from power in 1976.

http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=3043
__________________________________________________ __

China: Sixty thousand people protest against pollution

http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=3036

China riot village draws tourists

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4448131.stm
__________________________________________________ __

Chinese history books silent on Tiananmen

Shanghai (AsiaNews/Agencies) - Much of the history of the Twentieth
Century has gone missing from Chinese textbooks; nothing is said about
the 1989 pro-democracy movement, zero about the millions who died as a
result of the famine caused by the Communist Party's agricultural
policies during the Great Leap Forward, and even less is mentioned
about the attacks by the People's Liberation Army against India and
Vietnam.

Since Chinese textbooks must be approved by central school
authorities, only those that bear their mark of approval can be
printed and distributed to classrooms.

According to Yu Maochun, Associate Professor of History at the US
Naval Academy in Annapolis (Maryland), "the rising nationalist tide
has made rewriting history the national pastime of the Chinese" and
Japan is the preferred whipping boy.

In the textbooks, all those who died in the Sino-Japanese war of
1937-1945 are celebrated as heroes who "gloriously died" for China.

In a textbook for eight graders used in Shanghai schools, the Japanese
are described as "bandits who killed and wounded at least 35 million
people".

The paragraph that ends the chapter on the war says that "wherever the
Japanese army passed through its soldiers burnt, murdered and
pillaged. There is no crime that they did not commit".

Recent violent, anti-Japanese demonstrations have also been fed by
Chinese criticism of Japanese textbooks which tend to whitewash the
crimes committed by the Japanese Imperial Army in China.

Sin-ming Shaw, a Chinese student attending Oxford University, said
that the "historical distortions contained in Japanese textbooks seem
to stem from Tokyo's reluctance and shame to admit its past, whilst
those in Chinese textbooks are designed to preserve the role of the
Communist party. Hiding the truth is in both cases politically
motivated".

http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=3035
__________________________________________________ _

Cardinal Peter Seiichi Shirayanagi, Archbishop emeritus of Tokyo

The Japanese prelate has apologised for the crimes of the Japanese
Church during the war and has always sought a dialogue "with all the
Catholics of China".
....
In 1989, he organised a visit by a group of priests, sisters and lay
people to the Catholic Church of China in order to meet Chinese
Catholics from both the official and the underground Church.

He sought to meet Communist Party officials to seek forgiveness for
all the sins committed by the Japanese Imperial Army against the
Chinese people and the Catholic Church in China.
....
In 2000, after violent protests in Beijing against the canonisation of
120 Chinese martyrs, he said during a special solemn mass: "It is for
us a great pain to see this event, which should be received with great
joy for the Church in China, cause such a negative reaction. It is
equally painful to see the canonised martyrs treated 'as conspirators
of an aggressive imperialism'.
....
http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=3048
__________________________________________________

U.S. Warns Citizens of New Protests in China

BEIJING/TOKYO (Reuters) - The United States warned its citizens in
China Friday of possible new anti-Japan demonstrations, saying they
could turn against foreigners in general, as Beijing stressed that
illegal protests would be punished.
....
The U.S. Embassy called on its citizens to be on guard, saying there
were unconfirmed calls to stage protests this weekend in Beijing,
nearby Tianjin, Shanghai, northeastern Shenyang, southern Guangzhou
and Dongguan and southwestern Chengdu.
....
"Because of the fluid nature of such events, American citizens
traveling in China should be alert for demonstrations and or marches
occurring at other times and locations without prior warning," a U.S.
embassy e-mail said.

"The demonstrations are purportedly against Japanese interests, but
could involve foreigners in general."

Chinese activists have called for more protests in Beijing and
Shanghai this weekend by sending SMS and posting messages on on-line
bulletin boards.

Japanese Foreign Minister warned the protests could start to affect tourism.

"You cannot stop tourists from avoiding (China) and deciding to go to
another place after watching TV news," Kyodo news agency quoted him as
saying.
....
http://reuters.myway.com/article/200...1_PEK241135_RT
RIDST_0_NEWS-NORTHASIA-DC.html
_________________________________________________



Li Changchun April 16th 05 03:37 PM

" "running dogg" wrote in message
...

Actually, most of the anger against the Commies is in the countryside
from what I've heard, not in the cities where the demonstrations have
been happening. The cityfolk are doing relatively well under capitalism,
and people who aren't hungry and broke are less likely to rebel. Face
reality, Li-the CCP isn't going anywhere, and as long as they keep their
populace fed they won't. People across the world will tolerate
outrageous abuses of power as long as they personally are well fed and
comfy. The Republicans know this, for example.


So..., what you are saying RunningDog is that the Communist Party doesn't
care about poor people.
Congratulations - that is 100% correct!




John S. April 16th 05 04:27 PM

The Degan DE1103 is an excellent choice. Not perfect, but it will hear
a lot of stations and the sound quality is impressive.


John S. April 16th 05 04:30 PM

The 1103 handles ssb in the same way the 1102 does. It works and is
quite stable on the DE1103.

The DE1102 is missing some of the shortwave band, the swath below 3.x
mhz, and it uses three batteries rather than four.


Stinger April 17th 05 03:58 AM


"Ryan Logan" wrote in message
ocaldomain...
Can anyone suggest a good, powerful, relatively small, battery operated
shortwave radio? I have a Sony ICS-SW20 right now but some frequencies
that I find are not on the dial. I was looking at the Grundig Yacht Boy
400PE. Anyone have one of those or can anyone say something about it?
Also, can someone recommend some interesting/good shows that I may be able
to get on the radio I already have?

Thanks in advance.
--Ryan


Ryan,

What's the budget?

The Sony ICF-7600 is a very good value -- better in my opinion than the
Degen 1103, because it has a synch detector (something lacking even on
high-end Sangeans). It'll set you back about $160 bucks by the time you get
it shipped. It's a good starter radio, except it does not have a tuning
knob.

In the sub-$100 range, there are a lot of rebranded Chinese radios, of which
the Degen 1103 is the best.

If you can spend upwards to $300, you should look for either a used Sony
2010, Sony SW77, Sony SW07 (ultimate micro-portable), a modified Sangean
ATS-909, or a used Grundig Satelit 800 (but it's only "portable" in the
sense that a large suitcase is portable).

-- Stinger



Conan Ford April 17th 05 03:59 AM

Ryan Logan wrote in
ocaldomain:

I had concidered the ICF-7600GR but I like the YB's non-absence of a
tuning wheel. I also really like the Grundig Satellit-800, but alas I
don't have 500$ to spend, and it's not as compact as I wanted. Any
other suggestions you guys may have? I also was thinking it would be
cool if maybe it had a microcassette recorder or the like so I could
listen later.


The YB-400PE has no tuning wheel either. That wheel you see is the fine-
tune for SSB, which the ICF-SW7600GR also has. The only radio in this
class with a tuning wheel for general tuning is the Sangean ATS-909, but it
has no synchronous lock on AM.

[email protected] April 17th 05 04:13 AM

Stay the hell away from anything and everything Sangean.Do NOT! buy
anything from www.ccrane.com
cuhulin


Li Changchun April 17th 05 03:44 PM

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 19:50:26 -0700, running dogg wrote:

Actually, most of the anger against the Commies is in the countryside
from what I've heard, not in the cities where the demonstrations have
been happening. The cityfolk are doing relatively well under capitalism,
and people who aren't hungry and broke are less likely to rebel. Face
reality, Li-the CCP isn't going anywhere, and as long as they keep their
populace fed they won't.


CCP Tries to Inspire Loyalty as Withdrawals Continue

By Riordan Galluccio
The Epoch Times http://www.epochtimes.com/
Apr 16, 2005

The upper levels of government are taking notice as the number of
withdrawals from the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) rapidly approaches the
one million mark.
Since the publication of the "Nine Commentaries on the Communist Party," the
question of membership in the CCP has taken center stage in China's everyday
affairs.

Responding to the erosion of allegiance to the CCP, the government launched
a "Maintaining the Advancements of the Party" campaign in attempts to
re-energize it.
Following a mid-February meeting at the Central Chinese Communist Party
School, top level cadres sent 58 Central Communist Party Monitor Task Force
to cover all of China's provinces. They set out to organize the party cadres
in every city, to study the CCP charter, and re-pledge the vows they made
when joining the CCP. This has even become headline news in China's
state-run media.

A retired cadre from the Chinese military industry named Mr. Zhang said, "I
heard official notices have been passed down in the nuclear industry and the
committee of defense technology as well as the military industry saying that
people like us, by no means, can be allowed to resign from the CCP, even
though we have already stopped turning in our CCP membership fees. I feel it
is almost like the mafia now. One can enter but cannot exit-it is just like
an underground mafia."

Throughout the country the government is encouraging its members to pledge
their loyalty all over again in response to the "tuidang," Chinese for
"withdrawal." As the resignations continue unabated it is reported that
party officials have even gone so far as to force invalids and sick
individuals to step forward and reaffirm their loyalty.

One official party researcher said, "Perhaps it is true that those of us who
work in the heart of the CCP know and understand the nature of the CCP most
clearly. currently, my colleagues and I just regard this so-called
'Maintaining the Advancement' as purely a 'show and joke; done in a very
serious way'."

The rallying cries to "re-invest" in the CCP's ideology appear not to be
stemming the tide of resignations.

A typical withdrawal statement: "Today, despite risk to my personal safety,
I want to declare my withdrawal from the Communist Youth League."

Another, from a police officer: "I've perceived the various evil deeds
committed by the CCP and its regime, with no desire to wallow in the mire
with it. After reading the 'Nine Commentaries on the Communist Party,' I
suddenly became enlightened in my heart. Therefore, I declare my resignation
from the Chinese Communist Party, the Communist Youth League and the
Communist Young Pioneers."

Those resigning from the CCP want others to know that they are resigning.
The published statements sometimes include telephone numbers. Statements are
posted in public places, such as the red notice pasted on a wall in Jilin as
reported last week. The tide continues to rise.

http://english.epochtimes.com/news/5-4-16/27925.html



[email protected] April 17th 05 05:21 PM

There Should be BIG RIOTS ALL OVER CHINA ALL DAY LONG AND ALL NIGHT LONG
EVERY DAY AND NIGHT 24 HOURS A DAY AND NIGHT.THAT IS THE ONLY!!! WAY THE
CHINESE CAN WIN!!! AGAINS'T THE CHINESE GOVT.WAR IN THE CHINESE STREETS
ALL THE TIME!!!
cuhulin



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