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RM MS April 23rd 05 06:59 PM

Huge Antenna seen
 
Anybody here from southeast Michigan? On Van Dyke near 15 mile Rd.,
there is an Ameritech Building on the east side of Van Dyke. It has a
HUGE rotatable beam, probably log-periodic and all-band. I am guessing
the main boom is over 60 feet long. Has anybody else seen it? I wonder
what they would be using a HF antenna for? It looks a lot like the
antenna near Bethany OH, if that is any help. I am also guessing this
antenna is out of use nowadays. I used to monitor High Seas phone
traffic, but never realized there may be a receiving station in our
vicinity. Also used to hear Great Lakes phone services on HF and got one
of their very last verifications around 7 years ago, them telling me
they were being supplanted by cell and satellite services. Possibly this
was part of a similar network.


David April 23rd 05 07:26 PM

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:59:38 -0400, (RM MS) wrote:

Anybody here from southeast Michigan? On Van Dyke near 15 mile Rd.,
there is an Ameritech Building on the east side of Van Dyke. It has a
HUGE rotatable beam, probably log-periodic and all-band. I am guessing
the main boom is over 60 feet long. Has anybody else seen it? I wonder
what they would be using a HF antenna for? It looks a lot like the
antenna near Bethany OH, if that is any help. I am also guessing this
antenna is out of use nowadays. I used to monitor High Seas phone
traffic, but never realized there may be a receiving station in our
vicinity. Also used to hear Great Lakes phone services on HF and got one
of their very last verifications around 7 years ago, them telling me
they were being supplanted by cell and satellite services. Possibly this
was part of a similar network.

Those are getting to be pretty standard at any U.S. government
facility that uses HF. I have a collection of photos of those from
all over the West.


[email protected] April 23rd 05 07:45 PM

Maybe it is,or was,something to do with Great Lakes,Ship Traffic.Only
guessing.
cuhulin


David April 23rd 05 08:10 PM

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:59:38 -0400, (RM MS) wrote:

Anybody here from southeast Michigan? On Van Dyke near 15 mile Rd.,
there is an Ameritech Building on the east side of Van Dyke. It has a
HUGE rotatable beam, probably log-periodic and all-band. I am guessing
the main boom is over 60 feet long. Has anybody else seen it? I wonder
what they would be using a HF antenna for? It looks a lot like the
antenna near Bethany OH, if that is any help. I am also guessing this
antenna is out of use nowadays. I used to monitor High Seas phone
traffic, but never realized there may be a receiving station in our
vicinity. Also used to hear Great Lakes phone services on HF and got one
of their very last verifications around 7 years ago, them telling me
they were being supplanted by cell and satellite services. Possibly this
was part of a similar network.

http://www.antenna.it/military/630-lp-10...2.htm


R.F. Collins April 23rd 05 10:39 PM

The strange thing about that antenna is that it is not really up that
high. It does look like an HF log though. Maybe the employees had a
ham radio club there.

Ever see the 100 or so foot high tower a guy has in his 30 ft x 30 ft
backyard near 11mile road and Schoenerr? The tower base must cover
half the yard. Would cut down on grass mowing.

Jim

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:59:38 -0400, (RM MS) wrote:

Anybody here from southeast Michigan? On Van Dyke near 15 mile Rd.,
there is an Ameritech Building on the east side of Van Dyke. It has a
HUGE rotatable beam, probably log-periodic and all-band. I am guessing
the main boom is over 60 feet long. Has anybody else seen it? I wonder
what they would be using a HF antenna for? It looks a lot like the
antenna near Bethany OH, if that is any help. I am also guessing this
antenna is out of use nowadays. I used to monitor High Seas phone
traffic, but never realized there may be a receiving station in our
vicinity. Also used to hear Great Lakes phone services on HF and got one
of their very last verifications around 7 years ago, them telling me
they were being supplanted by cell and satellite services. Possibly this
was part of a similar network.



Mark Zenier April 24th 05 06:36 PM

In article ,
RM MS wrote:
Anybody here from southeast Michigan? On Van Dyke near 15 mile Rd.,
there is an Ameritech Building on the east side of Van Dyke. It has a
HUGE rotatable beam, probably log-periodic and all-band. I am guessing
the main boom is over 60 feet long. Has anybody else seen it? I wonder
what they would be using a HF antenna for? It looks a lot like the
antenna near Bethany OH, if that is any help. I am also guessing this
antenna is out of use nowadays. I used to monitor High Seas phone
traffic, but never realized there may be a receiving station in our
vicinity. Also used to hear Great Lakes phone services on HF and got one
of their very last verifications around 7 years ago, them telling me
they were being supplanted by cell and satellite services. Possibly this
was part of a similar network.


The FAA is fond of antennas like that. A backup communications
network for air traffic control, I think. There is/was one at
the FAA radar in Discovery Park (formerly Fort Lawton) in Seattle.

Mark Zenier Washington State resident


RM MS April 24th 05 07:21 PM

This antenna is on a tower above an Ameritech building. Ameritech is
what's left of the old Michigan Bell. It is not a government agency,
while Bethany was.


RM MS April 24th 05 07:27 PM

Yes, I have seen the one on Schoenherr and 11. I drive (fly) the 696
every day on my way to the Tech Center. There is another one off 12
mile. I'll take another look at the oe you mentioned. I am sure they
both are amateur radio beams. Still intrigued by the Ameritech one,
though. Wonder how to find out its purpose?


David April 24th 05 07:51 PM

On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 14:21:24 -0400, (RM MS) wrote:

This antenna is on a tower above an Ameritech building. Ameritech is
what's left of the old Michigan Bell. It is not a government agency,
while Bethany was.

This doesn't change the fact that they are being installed at most
government facilities that use HF. Oil companies, NGOs, etc. use them
as well.


[email protected] April 25th 05 03:50 AM

Why not just ask Ameritech,what is the purpose of that Antenna.They will
probally tell you,unless it is a super duper secret or something.
cuhulin



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