S350 DL (deluxe) now available
 

Presumably, there's less drift.

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0036.html

On 18 Jun 2005 14:45:54 -0700, "jamulc" wrote:

Presumably, there's less drift.

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0036.html

Why is it tuned to an FM station?

jamulc wrote:
Presumably, there's less drift.

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0036.html


From:

http://www.radiointel.com/

More Info On The New Grundig S350DL
As many people have noticed, the new S350DL retails for $149.95 while
the older S350 is $99.95. Mike Maghakian picked up the phone and called
Eton to get the full skinny. Mike reports that these are the differences
in the new S350DL vs S350:

1) There is now an AFC circuit for MW/SW which significantly eliminates
drift.
2) The speaker is now 4 3/4 inches.
3) Headphone jack is now stereo and includes a nice pair of headphones.
4) Clock can be set in modes that it could not be set before.
5) Radio can use 4D and 4AA batteries with a switch and both can be in
the radio at the same time.

Thanks Mike!

I just can't get myself to spend $150 on a single conversion radio. It
was hard enough to spend $100 on the S350 that I have. Don't get me
wrong, my S350 is my "sitting on the back porch at night while drinking
beer" radio and I enjoy using it a great deal, but with the sub $100
stuff that Degen is putting out these days, I think that asking $150
for that kind of performance is pushing it.

jamulc wrote:
Presumably, there's less drift.

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0036.html

Mark S. Holden wrote:
jamulc wrote:
Presumably, there's less drift.

More Info On The New Grundig S350DL
As many people have noticed, the new S350DL retails for $149.95 while
the older S350 is $99.95. Mike Maghakian picked up the phone and
called Eton to get the full skinny. Mike reports that these are the
differences in the new S350DL vs S350:

1) There is now an AFC circuit for MW/SW which significantly
eliminates drift.
2) The speaker is now 4 3/4 inches.
3) Headphone jack is now stereo and includes a nice pair of
headphones. 4) Clock can be set in modes that it could not be set
before. 5) Radio can use 4D and 4AA batteries with a switch and both
can be in the radio at the same time.

Thanks Mike!

For that kind of money, doesn't the Sony ICF SW7600 (with ssb and sync
detector) seem like a MUCH better value?

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:48:19 -0400, "Brian Denley"
wrote:

Mark S. Holden wrote:
jamulc wrote:
Presumably, there's less drift.

More Info On The New Grundig S350DL
As many people have noticed, the new S350DL retails for $149.95 while
the older S350 is $99.95. Mike Maghakian picked up the phone and
called Eton to get the full skinny. Mike reports that these are the
differences in the new S350DL vs S350:

1) There is now an AFC circuit for MW/SW which significantly
eliminates drift.
2) The speaker is now 4 3/4 inches.
3) Headphone jack is now stereo and includes a nice pair of
headphones. 4) Clock can be set in modes that it could not be set
before. 5) Radio can use 4D and 4AA batteries with a switch and both
can be in the radio at the same time.

Thanks Mike!

For that kind of money, doesn't the Sony ICF SW7600 (with ssb and sync
detector) seem like a MUCH better value?

I agreee with you Brian, and the 7600 is a more compact radio which
may matter to some folks.

Brian Denley wrote:
snip

For that kind of money, doesn't the Sony ICF SW7600 (with ssb and sync
detector) seem like a MUCH better value?


I'd expect the Sony to perform better, but a casual program listener
might be happy to trade performance for a tuning knob and the ability to
use D batteries.

"mike0219116" wrote in message
oups.com...
I just can't get myself to spend $150 on a single conversion radio. It
was hard enough to spend $100 on the S350 that I have. Don't get me
wrong, my S350 is my "sitting on the back porch at night while drinking
beer" radio and I enjoy using it a great deal, but with the sub $100
stuff that Degen is putting out these days, I think that asking $150
for that kind of performance is pushing it.

jamulc wrote:
Presumably, there's less drift.

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0036.html


I agree and I like the S350. I never owned one but was checking it out in
the Sharper Image. I like the way the radio feels and the tuning knob has a
nice feel to it. As Mark pointed out most people want or like a tuning knob
on the radio. They just seem to go hand in hand.

But I don't think it's worth $150 for these extra options. I'm considering
picking up an "open box" S350 for like $60 on Ebay.
That's what I think they are worth new. No more then $80. Now I'll wait till
reviews come out for the new one just to see what gives.

Lucky

I own one of the very first Tecsun BCL-2000s (the original Chinese version
of the S350) to be shipped outside of China, and I have never seen a reason
to "fix" this radio.

Sure, the frequency drifts some. I consider it a badge of honor to own an
analog radio with a little drift. But this radio's real charm is its size,
its look (I have one of the original candy-apple red ones), its sound, and
its sensitivity. I am 100% satisfied with mine, and wouldn't pay a penny
more for any of the latest version's supposed improvements.

"lsmyer" wrote in message
...
I own one of the very first Tecsun BCL-2000s (the original Chinese version
of the S350) to be shipped outside of China, and I have never seen a reason
to "fix" this radio.

Sure, the frequency drifts some. I consider it a badge of honor to own an
analog radio with a little drift. But this radio's real charm is its size,
its look (I have one of the original candy-apple red ones), its sound, and
its sensitivity. I am 100% satisfied with mine, and wouldn't pay a penny
more for any of the latest version's supposed improvements.


Hi there Ismyer,

You've convinced me to pick up one off Ebay. While I was playing with it in
the store, I took a liking to it immediately with it's style and
personality.
Has a nice feel and look to it. But, I have no idea how good it's
performance is. I have a Degen 1103 for my portable.

My Lowe HF-150 is portable too but I just can't take it outside yet. I think
it's too good of a receiver to take any unnecessary chances with it! I mean
it.

But, I could see myself taking the S350 out for a walk and some ice
cream....

Lucky

It's not a bad radio to take outside, but it's a bit heavy to tote around
all day, especially when it's full of four D-cells. The padded handle comes
in real handy.

"lsmyer" wrote in message
...
It's not a bad radio to take outside, but it's a bit heavy to tote around
all day, especially when it's full of four D-cells. The padded handle
comes in real handy.


The black Tecson BCL2000 looks very nice also. I read Grundig will come out
with red and black s350DLs. So prices on the old models should head south
fast.

Lucky

I have a Degen DE1103 at my bedside. It's too bad it doesn't come with a
decent carrying strap handle on the top of the radio like the S350 or the
FR200. The little carry strap on the side of the radio is useless to me.


"Lucky" wrote in message
...

"lsmyer" wrote in message
...
I own one of the very first Tecsun BCL-2000s (the original Chinese version
of the S350) to be shipped outside of China, and I have never seen a
reason to "fix" this radio.

Sure, the frequency drifts some. I consider it a badge of honor to own an
analog radio with a little drift. But this radio's real charm is its
size, its look (I have one of the original candy-apple red ones), its
sound, and its sensitivity. I am 100% satisfied with mine, and wouldn't
pay a penny more for any of the latest version's supposed improvements.


Hi there Ismyer,

You've convinced me to pick up one off Ebay. While I was playing with it
in the store, I took a liking to it immediately with it's style and
personality.
Has a nice feel and look to it. But, I have no idea how good it's
performance is. I have a Degen 1103 for my portable.

My Lowe HF-150 is portable too but I just can't take it outside yet. I
think it's too good of a receiver to take any unnecessary chances with it!
I mean it.

But, I could see myself taking the S350 out for a walk and some ice
cream....

Lucky

"homepc" wrote in message
...
I have a Degen DE1103 at my bedside. It's too bad it doesn't come with a
decent carrying strap handle on the top of the radio like the S350 or the
FR200. The little carry strap on the side of the radio is useless to me.


"Lucky" wrote in message
...

"lsmyer" wrote in message
...
I own one of the very first Tecsun BCL-2000s (the original Chinese
version of the S350) to be shipped outside of China, and I have never
seen a reason to "fix" this radio.

Sure, the frequency drifts some. I consider it a badge of honor to own
an analog radio with a little drift. But this radio's real charm is its
size, its look (I have one of the original candy-apple red ones), its
sound, and its sensitivity. I am 100% satisfied with mine, and wouldn't
pay a penny more for any of the latest version's supposed improvements.


Hi there Ismyer,

You've convinced me to pick up one off Ebay. While I was playing with it
in the store, I took a liking to it immediately with it's style and
personality.
Has a nice feel and look to it. But, I have no idea how good it's
performance is. I have a Degen 1103 for my portable.

My Lowe HF-150 is portable too but I just can't take it outside yet. I
think it's too good of a receiver to take any unnecessary chances with
it! I mean it.

But, I could see myself taking the S350 out for a walk and some ice
cream....

Lucky




Good morning HomePC

I know what you mean. I'm always a little worried about it when I carry it
around outside and depend on that string to support it. But, they kept the
radio cheap by doing this. Degen put their resources into the inside of the
radio where it really counts. That's why you can buy one so cheap.

I'm talking about getting it off Ebay at rock bottom prices. I got mine
shipped for like $65 Heck even the USA version at $79 is a good deal. I
find the 1103 to be a miniature tabletop receiver. It can pick up SSB just
fine. Very sensitive for a portable.

I've decided to hold off on my S350 purchase. One main reason is it only
takes D sized batteries. I don't have a D cell recharger and I don't plan on
buying new batteries every 3 days. So, for the price of a D sized recharger
and the radio, I might as well wait to see where the S350DL prices go.

It might come out the same total price so I'd rather have the DL if it
really fixed the drift and it sounds better. Plus, it can use AA's batteries
as well as Ds. That's a big factor for me. It cuts down on the weight of the
radio and I have a 8 way AA recharger. If they go for $150 retail, I bet the
Taiwan dealers hack it down to $99 for sure.

Lucky

Lucky,

My BCL-2000 is two years old and I have never changed its batteries. When I
first got it, I went to the Dollar Store and bought four cheap Panasonic
alkaline D-cells. Two years later, they are just now needing to be replaced.
At first, I listened several hours a day, but lately my wife has been using
the radio in the kitchen because it was something that she could pick up a
distant FM station that plays really good music, so I'm not sure how much
she has actually been using it.

I can assure you that you will be pleasantly pleased with this radio's
frugality with batteries.

"lsmyer" wrote in message
...
Lucky,

My BCL-2000 is two years old and I have never changed its batteries. When
I first got it, I went to the Dollar Store and bought four cheap Panasonic
alkaline D-cells. Two years later, they are just now needing to be
replaced. At first, I listened several hours a day, but lately my wife has
been using the radio in the kitchen because it was something that she
could pick up a distant FM station that plays really good music, so I'm
not sure how much she has actually been using it.

I can assure you that you will be pleasantly pleased with this radio's
frugality with batteries.


Wow. That's a pretty damn neat trick that they pulled off. 2 years on one
set of 4 D's. But, considering I'm willing to stay with Double Dees for more
then 4 years myself....if she'd stay that is, I can see the radio loving 4
:)

Lucky

While I admit I don't listen to mine much (90 minutes/day/3or4 days/week), I
have NEVER changed the batteries in mine since I bought it over a year
ago...



"Lucky" wrote in message
...

"Jim Hackett" wrote in message
ink.net...
The 350 isn't like the Sat-800 when it comes to battery consumption. It
will EASILY go 6 months on a set of D cells...



"Lucky" wrote in message
...

"homepc" wrote in message
...
I have a Degen DE1103 at my bedside. It's too bad it doesn't come
with
a
decent carrying strap handle on the top of the radio like the S350 or
the
FR200. The little carry strap on the side of the radio is useless to
me.


"Lucky" wrote in message
...

"lsmyer" wrote in message
...
I own one of the very first Tecsun BCL-2000s (the original Chinese
version of the S350) to be shipped outside of China, and I have
never
seen a reason to "fix" this radio.

Sure, the frequency drifts some. I consider it a badge of honor to
own
an analog radio with a little drift. But this radio's real charm is
its
size, its look (I have one of the original candy-apple red ones),
its
sound, and its sensitivity. I am 100% satisfied with mine, and
wouldn't
pay a penny more for any of the latest version's supposed
improvements.


Hi there Ismyer,

You've convinced me to pick up one off Ebay. While I was playing
with
it
in the store, I took a liking to it immediately with it's style and
personality.
Has a nice feel and look to it. But, I have no idea how good it's
performance is. I have a Degen 1103 for my portable.

My Lowe HF-150 is portable too but I just can't take it outside yet.
I
think it's too good of a receiver to take any unnecessary chances
with
it! I mean it.

But, I could see myself taking the S350 out for a walk and some ice
cream....

Lucky




Good morning HomePC

I know what you mean. I'm always a little worried about it when I carry
it
around outside and depend on that string to support it. But, they kept
the
radio cheap by doing this. Degen put their resources into the inside of
the
radio where it really counts. That's why you can buy one so cheap.

I'm talking about getting it off Ebay at rock bottom prices. I got mine
shipped for like $65 Heck even the USA version at $79 is a good deal.
I
find the 1103 to be a miniature tabletop receiver. It can pick up SSB
just
fine. Very sensitive for a portable.

I've decided to hold off on my S350 purchase. One main reason is it
only
takes D sized batteries. I don't have a D cell recharger and I don't
plan
on
buying new batteries every 3 days. So, for the price of a D sized
recharger
and the radio, I might as well wait to see where the S350DL prices go.

It might come out the same total price so I'd rather have the DL if it
really fixed the drift and it sounds better. Plus, it can use AA's
batteries
as well as Ds. That's a big factor for me. It cuts down on the weight
of
the
radio and I have a 8 way AA recharger. If they go for $150 retail, I
bet
the
Taiwan dealers hack it down to $99 for sure.

Lucky





Hi Jim

Really? How can that be? Are you talking about listening to it at least 2
hours/day outside? That's great if it's 6 months.

Lucky

Just a bit of trivia to add to this: I bought another S350 and it
arrived today, and I noticed that this one is pewter rather than
silver. I wonder how long this change has been implemented? I also
noticed that drift was 1 KHz at most at start-up and then disappeared
totally after about 20-30 Min.

jamulc wrote:
Presumably, there's less drift.

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0036.html

That whopping price increase sure moves it out of the volksradio
league. It's appeal was good audio and decent performance on all bands
for less than $100.00.

I've notived a lot of discounted Grundig S350's on Ebay. I'm sure some
of them are factory refurbs, but my real questoin is whether the
original 350 has been discontinued. I could use one of those for a
shop and gardening radio at those prices.

I took a drastic step today. Those cheap Dollar Store batteries in my
BCL-2000 finally gave up the ghost today, so I went to Wal-Mart and bought
the radio four brand new Duracells. I guess the radio's worth $5 every two
years!

mike0219116 wrote:
Just a bit of trivia to add to this: I bought another S350 and it
arrived today, and I noticed that this I'd pay that for double conversion, but not singlt

I'd PAY that for double converison but not single. I'd also EXPECT a BFO
for SSB for that price

Yodar
one is pewter rather than
silver. I wonder how long this change has been implemented? I also
noticed that drift was 1 KHz at most at start-up and then disappeared
totally after about 20-30 Min.

jamulc wrote:

Presumably, there's less drift.

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0036.html

I've had one BCL2000 and an S350 and I found that despite the good
sensitivity, the tuning backlash, the drift, and the single conversion
birdies were totally unacceptable on both. My old DX-396 (also single
conversion) is definitely superior but not quite as sensitive. Runs
forever or 2 "C" cells.

Frank