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If you can really hear these stations, why does it irritate you so much
to find out that others hear them as well, via their shortwave receivers? And didn't you earlier say that, because you live out West, you can't hear very much? I think you need to get your story straight. Steve |
wrote in message oups.com... No, no. I'm just a guy who's constantly stumbling onto your off-topic posts. Steve SHHH Steve. Don't let on. Maybe we can scare him off. lol B.H. |
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If you don't enjoy shortwave, why are you posting here?
Steve |
"David" wrote in message ... On 21 Jun 2005 16:52:38 -0700, wrote: If you can really hear these stations, why does it irritate you so much to find out that others hear them as well, via their shortwave receivers? And didn't you earlier say that, because you live out West, you can't hear very much? I think you need to get your story straight. Steve **** you, you goddam psychopath. I posted a little notice about a new radio service coming to the States and you get all ****ing phallic on me. Just ****ing die! Psychopath? You got room to talk. Take your meds tard. B.H. |
"Dan" wrote in message oups.com... | David wrote: | SNIP | Don't care.. This is about Shortwave Radio.. Maybe on your side. So delete the crosspost, and keep it all for yourself. We're interested in all kinds of radio here. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding." -- Justice Brandeis ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- For direct replies, take out the contents between the hyphens. -Really!- |
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:52:02 -0500, "JLewis"
wrote: People always try and hold on to 'old technology' - myself included...I personally think the BBC was wise to pull the plug when it did, instead of sinking more money into a sinking ship... Shortwave, Ham Radio, CB, etc. (all of which I still use and enjoy) - are just buggy whips - soon to be outdated and displaced - except for the few who cling to them for their own personal satisfaction - not for real communication. YMMV This is a logically good argument, but it falls short when portability comes into play. The whole reason why radio (per se; not specifically shortwave) remains so popular despite TV and the Internet is because you can take a portable radio with you wherever you go; into the garden, in your car, in the bathroom, on holiday, in a tent, in a caravan (trailer), in a motorhome... I can't do this with a computer. Firstly a laptop costs twenty or more times more money than a radio, secondly the battery life is considerably less, but mostly there just isn't universal affordable wifi or mobile broadband yet. I used to be able to take a small shortwave whip-antenna radio on holiday to America and listen to the BBC back home. Now I can't. Now either I have to carry around thirty metres of random wire and some very detailed frequency charts, or I have to lug my laptop which can't stay away from the mains electricty for more than 3 hours and requires me to subscribe to expensive mobile internet connections (or worse, expose my security to the prospect of hijacking someone else's open network). I can't overstate how ****ed off I am about this. The BBC made their overseas radio services difficult, expensive and non-portable. I miss my radio. And to top it all, my TV licence, paying the BBC, has gone up again! If it wasn't for Doctor Who I'd be picketting Bush House. -- Andrew Oakley andrew/atsymbol/aoakley/stop/com |
"Andrew Oakley" wrote in message ... [snip] I used to be able to take a small shortwave whip-antenna radio on holiday to America and listen to the BBC back home. Now I can't. Now either I have to carry around thirty metres of random wire and some very detailed frequency charts, or I have to lug my laptop which can't stay away from the mains electricty for more than 3 hours and requires me to subscribe to expensive mobile internet connections (or worse, expose my security to the prospect of hijacking someone else's open network). The World Service is still often heard very well in the US, but, you're generally correct. The World Service isn't as reliable here as it used to be. I can't overstate how ****ed off I am about this. The BBC made their overseas radio services difficult, expensive and non-portable. I miss my radio. And to top it all, my TV licence, paying the BBC, has gone up again! If it wasn't for Doctor Who I'd be picketting Bush House. In theory, you could give up TV and avoid the license fee. However, the World Service is funded by a "government grant". "BBC World Service is funded by Government grant and not your TV licence. Profits from separate BBC commercial services help to keep the licence fee low. " http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/licencefee/ I take it that "Government grant" is a polite way of saying "You're paying for it, whether you like it or not". Frank Dresser |
If it wasn't for Doctor Who I'd be picketting Bush House.
My wife absolutely loved that show - Is it still on over there? Here in the U.S. we used to watch it via our PBS station, but they dropped it several years ago... If it's still on, don't tell my wife - she'll probably start dropping hints about moving to England. YMMV "Frank Dresser" wrote in message ... "Andrew Oakley" wrote in message ... [snip] I used to be able to take a small shortwave whip-antenna radio on holiday to America and listen to the BBC back home. Now I can't. Now either I have to carry around thirty metres of random wire and some very detailed frequency charts, or I have to lug my laptop which can't stay away from the mains electricty for more than 3 hours and requires me to subscribe to expensive mobile internet connections (or worse, expose my security to the prospect of hijacking someone else's open network). The World Service is still often heard very well in the US, but, you're generally correct. The World Service isn't as reliable here as it used to be. I can't overstate how ****ed off I am about this. The BBC made their overseas radio services difficult, expensive and non-portable. I miss my radio. And to top it all, my TV licence, paying the BBC, has gone up again! If it wasn't for Doctor Who I'd be picketting Bush House. In theory, you could give up TV and avoid the license fee. However, the World Service is funded by a "government grant". "BBC World Service is funded by Government grant and not your TV licence. Profits from separate BBC commercial services help to keep the licence fee low. " http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/licencefee/ I take it that "Government grant" is a polite way of saying "You're paying for it, whether you like it or not". Frank Dresser |
David wrote: On 21 Jun 2005 12:03:01 -0700, wrote: I don't get upset at you when you post off-topic and you shouldn't get upset at the other members of this group when they flame your ass. Steve Are you the ****ing King of Usenet? No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. |
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"David" wrote in message ... On 21 Jun 2005 16:52:38 -0700, wrote: If you can really hear these stations, why does it irritate you so much to find out that others hear them as well, via their shortwave receivers? And didn't you earlier say that, because you live out West, you can't hear very much? I think you need to get your story straight. Steve **** you, you goddam psychopath. I posted a little notice about a new radio service coming to the States and you get all ****ing phallic on me. Just ****ing die! Daveys having a melt down. |
MnMikew wrote: "David" wrote in message ... On 21 Jun 2005 16:52:38 -0700, wrote: If you can really hear these stations, why does it irritate you so much to find out that others hear them as well, via their shortwave receivers? And didn't you earlier say that, because you live out West, you can't hear very much? I think you need to get your story straight. Steve **** you, you goddam psychopath. I posted a little notice about a new radio service coming to the States and you get all ****ing phallic on me. Just ****ing die! Daveys having a melt down. Probably forgot his meds again. dxAce Michigan USA http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
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"David" wrote in message ... You are a dinosaur. That would make you dinosaur excrement. |
If we're dinosaurs, then why are you posting here?
Steve |
wrote in message oups.com... If we're dinosaurs, then why are you posting here? I think it's time that rec.radio.satellite needs to be created to go along with the rest. --Mike L. |
Andrew Oakley wrote: On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:52:02 -0500, "JLewis" wrote: People always try and hold on to 'old technology' - myself included...I personally think the BBC was wise to pull the plug when it did, instead of sinking more money into a sinking ship... Shortwave, Ham Radio, CB, etc. (all of which I still use and enjoy) - are just buggy whips - soon to be outdated and displaced - except for the few who cling to them for their own personal satisfaction - not for real communication. YMMV This is a logically good argument, but it falls short when portability comes into play. The whole reason why radio (per se; not specifically shortwave) remains so popular despite TV and the Internet is because you can take a portable radio with you wherever you go; into the garden, in your car, in the bathroom, on holiday, in a tent, in a caravan (trailer), in a motorhome... I can't do this with a computer. Firstly a laptop costs twenty or more times more money than a radio, secondly the battery life is considerably less, but mostly there just isn't universal affordable wifi or mobile broadband yet. I used to be able to take a small shortwave whip-antenna radio on holiday to America and listen to the BBC back home. Now I can't. Now either I have to carry around thirty metres of random wire and some very detailed frequency charts, or I have to lug my laptop which can't stay away from the mains electricty for more than 3 hours and requires me to subscribe to expensive mobile internet connections (or worse, expose my security to the prospect of hijacking someone else's open network). I can't overstate how ****ed off I am about this. The BBC made their overseas radio services difficult, expensive and non-portable. I miss my radio. And to top it all, my TV licence, paying the BBC, has gone up again! If it wasn't for Doctor Who I'd be picketting Bush House. -- Andrew Oakley andrew/atsymbol/aoakley/stop/com Agreed. Though portable satellite receivers are certainly possible. XM even has a model, though I prefer Sirius. As for the new Dr. Who -- as someone who was not a fan of the original series at all, it was a pleasant shock when a friend came over with a captured video from a couple episodes. Brilliant. |
"In theory, you could give up TV and avoid the license fee"
From what I've heard, that's easier said than done, as some people have stated that the TVLA assumes the following : - that all homes have televisions - that anyone who owns a TV is using it to receive TV signals (even if the TV is used only for watching video tapes/DVDs and/or playing video games) |
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On 2005-06-21 13:52:02 -0400, "JLewis" said:
People always try and hold on to 'old technology' - myself included...I personally think the BBC was wise to pull the plug when it did, instead of sinking more money into a sinking ship... Shortwave, Ham Radio, CB, etc. (all of which I still use and enjoy) - are just buggy whips - soon to be outdated and displaced - except for the few who cling to them for their own personal satisfaction - not for real communication. YMMV Nonsense. "David" wrote in message ... On 21 Jun 2005 08:09:51 -0700, "Dan" wrote: Yah, BBC screwed it up IMHO.. Should've stayed with Shortwave.. They could have added windmill farms to provide electricity for broadcasting. Windmill farms are not going to put HF radios into people's homes. Shortwave broadcasting is over. (Except for religious nuts and a few assorted despots). -- Chris: "Dad, what's a blowhole for?" Peter: "I'll tell you what it's NOT for and then you'll know why I can never go back to Sea World." |
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:52:02 -0500, "JLewis"
wrote: Shortwave, Ham Radio, CB, etc. (all of which I still use and enjoy) - are just buggy whips - soon to be outdated and displaced - except for the few who cling to them for their own personal satisfaction - not for real communication. Bill Gates made the same accusation about cars. A top honcho at GM asked an auditorium full of people if they'd buy a car that crashed twice a day.. A car where you'd have to stop and reinstall the engine for no particular reason. Basically, cars are using the same technology as Henry Ford's. Power source, drive train, tires, etc. The improvements have been cosmetic and evolutionary. It's been proven to be extremely reliable and, unless you're a very bad driver, rarely crashes from mechanical failure. Rich |
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