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David July 8th 05 07:53 PM

everyone's quite shocked at the speed at which these things are changing
 
North Atlantic Ocean Temps Hit Record High


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Jul 8, 10:00 AM (ET)


ST. JOHN'S, Newfoundland (AP) - Ocean temperatures in the North
Atlantic hit an all-time high last year, raising concerns about the
effects of global warming on one of the most sensitive and productive
ecosystems in the world.

Sea ice off the coast of Newfoundland and Labrador was below normal
for the tenth consecutive year and the water temperature outside St.
John's Harbor was the highest on record in 2004, according to a report
released Wednesday by the federal Fisheries Department.

The ocean surface off St. John's averaged almost two degrees
Fahrenheit above normal, the highest in the 59 years the department
has been compiling records.

And bottom temperatures were also one degree higher than normal,
according the report.

"A two-degree temperature anomaly on the Grand Banks is pretty
significant in the bottom areas, where temperatures only range a
couple of degrees throughout the year," said Eugene Colbourne, an
oceanographer with the Fisheries Department.

Water temperatures were above normal right across the North Atlantic
last year, from Newfoundland to Greenland, Iceland and Norway.

The Newfoundland data is another wake-up call on climate change, say
environmentalists.

Anchorage, Alaska, has seen annual snowfall shrink in the past decade,
high river temperatures are killing off millions of spawning salmon in
British Columbia and northern climates around the world have noticed
warming.

Meanwhile, ocean temperatures have risen around the globe, and species
are already dying, said Bill Wareham, acting director of marine
conservation for the Vancouver-based David Suzuki Foundation.

"I don't think there's a question about whether these changes are
happening," Wareham said.

But "everyone's quite shocked at the speed at which these things are
changing."

Air temperatures in the Newfoundland region were also higher than
normal, but Colbourne said the results are not conclusive.

Water temperatures in the cold Labrador current were actually below
normal levels. And while the other temperatures were record highs, a
similar warming trend occurred in the 1960s, Colbourne said.

"We really can't say for sure if what we're seeing in Newfoundland
waters is a consequence of global warming, when we've only got 50
years of data or so," Colbourne said.

"It may be related to global warming but, then again, it may be just
the natural cycle that we see in this area of the world."



dxAce July 8th 05 08:27 PM



David wrote:

"It may be related to global warming but, then again, it may be just
the natural cycle that we see in this area of the world."


There ya go 'tard boy, that's all you need to know.

Now go tote it.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



MnMikew July 8th 05 08:36 PM


"David" wrote in message
...

"It may be related to global warming but, then again, it may be just
the natural cycle that we see in this area of the world."





[email protected] July 8th 05 09:15 PM

I am not shocked.There isnt anything that shocks me anymore.
cuhulin


Cheese 7 July 8th 05 09:48 PM


"David" wrote in message
...
North Atlantic Ocean Temps Hit Record High


This is the exact reason why you naw have a
CATEGORY 4 -monster- Hurricane taking
aim square at FL/AL/MS.

see: www.hwn.org


dxAce July 8th 05 10:00 PM



Cheese 7 wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
North Atlantic Ocean Temps Hit Record High


This is the exact reason why you naw have a
CATEGORY 4 -monster- Hurricane taking
aim square at FL/AL/MS.

see: www.hwn.org


Of course! Never ever had a category 4 before it warmed up.

Yeah right! What type of school do you 'tard boys and girls attend?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



FDR July 8th 05 10:47 PM


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Cheese 7 wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
North Atlantic Ocean Temps Hit Record High


This is the exact reason why you naw have a
CATEGORY 4 -monster- Hurricane taking
aim square at FL/AL/MS.

see: www.hwn.org


Of course! Never ever had a category 4 before it warmed up.

Yeah right! What type of school do you 'tard boys and girls attend?


It's highly unusual to have cat 4 hurricanes so early in the season. You
see these things pop up in Spetember and October, but were still in July.

On another note, the waters around LI are unusually cool. Looks like the
flow is screwed up.


dxAce
Michigan
USA





Brian Hill July 8th 05 11:00 PM


"FDR" wrote in message It's highly
unusual to have cat 4 hurricanes so early in the season. You
see these things pop up in Spetember and October, but were still in July.

On another note, the waters around LI are unusually cool. Looks like the
flow is screwed up.



Theres always been anomalies in nature. Blame it on bouffant hairdos and all
that hair spary Mom used. Geezzzzzz!

B.H.




[email protected] July 8th 05 11:04 PM

"Cheese 7" wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
North Atlantic Ocean Temps Hit Record High


This is the exact reason why you naw have a
CATEGORY 4 -monster- Hurricane taking
aim square at FL/AL/MS.

see: www.hwn.org

Weather records have ONLY been kept for a few hundred years.
That means we don't know ****!

Brian Hill July 8th 05 11:11 PM


wrote in message

Weather records have ONLY been kept for a few hundred years.
That means we don't know ****!


That's right.



Dan July 8th 05 11:33 PM



FDR wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...



It's highly unusual to have cat 4 hurricanes so early in the season. You
see these things pop up in Spetember and October, but were still in July.

On another note, the waters around LI are unusually cool. Looks like the
flow is screwed up.

real time Buoy data off Long Island.. Water temp a bit cool.. but
within " range"

http://www.noreast.com/bouys/weatherbouy_44025.cfm

Interesting links . . .

http://seawifs.gsfc.nasa.gov/OCEAN_P..._overview.html


Brad July 8th 05 11:37 PM


wrote in message
...
"Cheese 7" wrote:


"David" wrote in message
. ..
North Atlantic Ocean Temps Hit Record High


This is the exact reason why you naw have a
CATEGORY 4 -monster- Hurricane taking
aim square at FL/AL/MS.

see: www.hwn.org

Weather records have ONLY been kept for a few hundred years.
That means we don't know ****!


I was taught at school that we were still coming out of the last ice age,
only 50,000 years ago. Until we start heading into the next one, I'm not
going to panic. I'm not going to panic. I'm not going to panic.

Brad.



FDR July 8th 05 11:57 PM


"Dan" wrote in message
ps.com...


FDR wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...



It's highly unusual to have cat 4 hurricanes so early in the season. You
see these things pop up in Spetember and October, but were still in July.

On another note, the waters around LI are unusually cool. Looks like the
flow is screwed up.

real time Buoy data off Long Island.. Water temp a bit cool.. but
within " range"

http://www.noreast.com/bouys/weatherbouy_44025.cfm


I was going by an observation that a fisherman friend of mine who lives
there.


Interesting links . . .

http://seawifs.gsfc.nasa.gov/OCEAN_P..._overview.html




FDR July 9th 05 12:00 AM


wrote in message
...
"Cheese 7" wrote:


"David" wrote in message
. ..
North Atlantic Ocean Temps Hit Record High


This is the exact reason why you naw have a
CATEGORY 4 -monster- Hurricane taking
aim square at FL/AL/MS.

see: www.hwn.org

Weather records have ONLY been kept for a few hundred years.
That means we don't know ****!


Sure there's a variable of time in how the Earth behaves with temperature.
But you cannot re-introduce billions of tons of CO2 that have been trapped
for millions of years and not expect a change in the atmosphere and Earth's
temperature.



Brenda Ann July 9th 05 12:06 AM


"Brad" bradvk2qq AT w6ir.com wrote in message
...

I was taught at school that we were still coming out of the last ice age,
only 50,000 years ago. Until we start heading into the next one, I'm not
going to panic. I'm not going to panic. I'm not going to panic.

Brad.


DON'T PANIC!



Dan July 9th 05 12:27 AM

Weather records have ONLY been kept for a few hundred years.
That means we don't know ****!


- Disagree.. Science says different..


B. Otten July 9th 05 12:33 AM

It is written:

It's highly unusual to have cat 4 hurricanes so early in the season. You
see these things pop up in Spetember and October, but were still in July.

On another note, the waters around LI are unusually cool. Looks like the
flow is screwed up.


Unusual. Perhaps. But now outside the realm of possible. Just another
outlyer on the statistical curve. Nothing more. All it does is add
another data point to the process. What it does do is give the tree
huggers and environmental sky-is-falling alarmists something to point to.

And IF I'm wrong.......I'll adapt. That's science you can count upon.

bill

Dan July 9th 05 12:39 AM


permafrost is melting in Artic regions.. its been frozen solid since
the last glaciation 10,000 years ago

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2...072574-cp.html


dxAce July 9th 05 12:45 AM



Cheese 7 wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
North Atlantic Ocean Temps Hit Record High


This is the exact reason why you naw have a
CATEGORY 4 -monster- Hurricane taking
aim square at FL/AL/MS.

see: www.hwn.org


And now currently back down to a Category 3. Things must be cooling off again!

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Dan July 9th 05 12:53 AM


And now currently back down to a Category 3. Things must be cooling off again!


- Nope !
Went over Cuba ; bounced over Camp Xray..

- Gonna hit Key West.. ( Which went downhill ever since Tenessee
Williams Died )

http://www.hwn.org/atlantic/nhcww4.html


Dan July 9th 05 12:54 AM


Interesting Article about permafrost / Artic Ice melting . ..

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?050425fa_fact3


Brian Hill July 9th 05 01:03 AM


"Dan" wrote in message
ups.com...
Weather records have ONLY been kept for a few hundred years.
That means we don't know ****!


- Disagree.. Science says different..


We can take ice core samples to see what the climate and such was but no
real documentation was logged in the distant past . the fact is the Earth is
constantly changing.

B.H.



dxAce July 9th 05 01:09 AM



Dan wrote:

And now currently back down to a Category 3. Things must be cooling off again!


- Nope !


Must be cooling off! It's back down to Category 3... but who knows, it may warm up
again.


Went over Cuba ; bounced over Camp Xray..

- Gonna hit Key West.. ( Which went downhill ever since Tenessee
Williams Died )

http://www.hwn.org/atlantic/nhcww4.html



Ernie July 9th 05 01:41 AM


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


- Nope !


Must be cooling off! It's back down to Category 3... but who knows, it may

warm up
again.


Went over Cuba ; bounced over Camp Xray..

- Gonna hit Key West.. ( Which went downhill ever since Tenessee
Williams Died )

http://www.hwn.org/atlantic/nhcww4.html



With any luck it will turn to a CAT 5 and wipe out a buncha vacationing
Canadians EH?





dxAce July 9th 05 01:43 AM



Ernie wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


- Nope !


Must be cooling off! It's back down to Category 3... but who knows, it may

warm up
again.


Went over Cuba ; bounced over Camp Xray..

- Gonna hit Key West.. ( Which went downhill ever since Tenessee
Williams Died )

http://www.hwn.org/atlantic/nhcww4.html


With any luck it will turn to a CAT 5 and wipe out a buncha vacationing
Canadians EH?


Are there any down there at this time of year?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] July 9th 05 03:28 AM

I checked the cold water temperture flowing out of the faucet in my
bathtub earlier this evening with the temperture wire thingy on my old
Fluke digital multimeter.84.9 degrees,it said.We are having a heat wave
Chicken Little,it's Summertime.Run,Run,Run!
cuhulin


running dogg July 9th 05 03:29 AM

Brian Hill wrote:


"Dan" wrote in message
ups.com...
Weather records have ONLY been kept for a few hundred years.
That means we don't know ****!


- Disagree.. Science says different..


We can take ice core samples to see what the climate and such was but no
real documentation was logged in the distant past . the fact is the Earth is
constantly changing.


We simply don't know. We don't really know if this is part of a natural
warming cycle-we were in a cold period from 1200-1800 AD-or greenhouse
gas induced. It is known that at Lake Tahoe in the California mountains,
forests covered areas that are now underwater. The desert southwest in
the US has had 200 year long droughts in the past. At the other extreme,
glaciers once covered what is now the US as far south as northern
Mexico. Clearly, the earth has had major shifts in climate and weather
patterns before, in times when auto emissions were not a factor.


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[email protected] July 9th 05 03:32 AM

www.clarionledger.com has some information for folks along the Gulf
Coast areas seeking shelter from the hurricane.I just don't have room in
my house,it's so full of junk.There is a vacant house right across the
road from me though.
cuhulin


David July 9th 05 04:13 AM

On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 19:45:27 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



Cheese 7 wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
North Atlantic Ocean Temps Hit Record High


This is the exact reason why you naw have a
CATEGORY 4 -monster- Hurricane taking
aim square at FL/AL/MS.

see: www.hwn.org


And now currently back down to a Category 3. Things must be cooling off again!

dxAce
Michigan
USA


It's over land, Dr. Frank.


Saraclese Manboobs July 9th 05 05:16 AM


"dxAce" did pull a blue crayola
crayon from out of his large box of the same and scribbled on
the partition wall for all to see in message
...


Cheese 7 wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
North Atlantic Ocean Temps Hit Record High


This is the exact reason why you naw have a
CATEGORY 4 -monster- Hurricane taking
aim square at FL/AL/MS.

see: www.hwn.org


Of course! Never ever had a category 4 before it warmed up.

Yeah right! What type of school do you 'tard boys and girls attend?

dxAce
Michigan
USA


my oh my DX Ace!

Did we get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning
or are the hot/cold spells of menopause starting to settle in
on a more frequent basis...?

"You know, when we were kids, our music was more or less based on
classical roots. This stuff sounds like it came from a bad bowel movement!"

- someone from alt.fan.michael.jackson who's name eludes me right now


m II July 9th 05 05:29 AM

dxAce wrote:

Are there any down there at this time of year?



Canadians are so important to the local economy that Florida spends a lot of
money in advertising to make sure they keep coming. Almost seventy percent of
Canadians traveling to Florida are from Ontario.


http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs....09/1075/NEWS01


http://w01.international.gc.ca/minpu...766&language=E


http://www.cityparent.com/tourist/ar...0930/8122.html







mike

[email protected] July 9th 05 06:30 AM

Visit Florida. www.flausa.com
cuhulin


dxAce July 9th 05 11:12 AM



Saraclese Manboobs wrote:

"dxAce" did pull a blue crayola
crayon from out of his large box of the same and scribbled on
the partition wall for all to see in message
...


Cheese 7 wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
North Atlantic Ocean Temps Hit Record High

This is the exact reason why you naw have a
CATEGORY 4 -monster- Hurricane taking
aim square at FL/AL/MS.

see: www.hwn.org


Of course! Never ever had a category 4 before it warmed up.

Yeah right! What type of school do you 'tard boys and girls attend?

dxAce
Michigan
USA


my oh my DX Ace!

Did we get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning
or are the hot/cold spells of menopause starting to settle in
on a more frequent basis...?


We? I have no idea how you got up this morning, 'tard.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce July 9th 05 11:16 AM



David wrote:

On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 19:45:27 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



Cheese 7 wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
North Atlantic Ocean Temps Hit Record High

This is the exact reason why you naw have a
CATEGORY 4 -monster- Hurricane taking
aim square at FL/AL/MS.

see: www.hwn.org


And now currently back down to a Category 3. Things must be cooling off again!

dxAce
Michigan
USA


It's over land, Dr. Frank.


OK, now it's a Category 2 and it's back over water...

Continue to tote, 'tard boy.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce July 9th 05 11:27 AM



dxAce wrote:

David wrote:

On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 19:45:27 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



Cheese 7 wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
North Atlantic Ocean Temps Hit Record High

This is the exact reason why you naw have a
CATEGORY 4 -monster- Hurricane taking
aim square at FL/AL/MS.

see: www.hwn.org

And now currently back down to a Category 3. Things must be cooling off again!

dxAce
Michigan
USA


It's over land, Dr. Frank.


OK, now it's a Category 2 and it's back over water...


Oh, oh... downgraded to a Category 1...



Continue to tote, 'tard boy.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] July 9th 05 06:50 PM

Weather "happens"
cuhulin


[email protected] July 9th 05 06:53 PM

If it gets to category five or higher,I am heading for Bozeman,Montana.I
lived there for six months in 1956.
cuhulin


m II July 10th 05 08:13 AM

wrote:

If it gets to category five or higher,I am heading for Bozeman,Montana.I
lived there for six months in 1956.
cuhulin





How is prison food, anyway?



mike



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