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David wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:30:17 GMT, D Peter Maus wrote: Actually, that was Wesley Clark. He admitted to having made the decision to let the Bin Ladens out of the country on his own initiative. He made this admission publicly, and reiterated it during the campaign. But I'm sure he was listening to HF radio at the time. So, at least, THANK GOD, he was on topic. As for the Saudi Prince...he's publicly condemned the actions of the Muslim extremists responsible for the beheadings of the innocent. It was Richard Clarke, acting under direct orders. The Prince's own government has the public beheadings. http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/715000...ution96300.jpg You really need to get out of the bubble. The air in there is stale and bad for you. You need to get on out in the fresh air and tote it! dxAce Michigan USA |
David wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:30:17 GMT, D Peter Maus wrote: Actually, that was Wesley Clark. He admitted to having made the decision to let the Bin Ladens out of the country on his own initiative. He made this admission publicly, and reiterated it during the campaign. But I'm sure he was listening to HF radio at the time. So, at least, THANK GOD, he was on topic. As for the Saudi Prince...he's publicly condemned the actions of the Muslim extremists responsible for the beheadings of the innocent. It was Richard Clarke, acting under direct orders. No, he was acting on his own initiative, by his own admission. Publicly stating so. He personally vetted the family members requesting to leave, and he personally authorized them to exit the country according to protocols. The Prince's own government has the public beheadings. Public beheadings, as barbaric as they are, are part of the Saudi culture, and part of the legal system. Just as we have executions, and some quite barbaric here. There have been conversations about from/to both sides. You really need to get out of the bubble. The air in there is stale and bad for you. Thank you, it HAS been a long day. :) |
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:28:45 -0400, dxAce
wrote: You need to get on out in the fresh air and tote it! dxAce Michigan USA Still sweating from a 45 minute tote in the hills. Thanks for caring! |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:39:29 GMT, D Peter Maus
wrote: No, he was acting on his own initiative, by his own admission. Publicly stating so. He personally vetted the family members requesting to leave, and he personally authorized them to exit the country according to protocols. The Prince's own government has the public beheadings. Public beheadings, as barbaric as they are, are part of the Saudi culture, and part of the legal system. Just as we have executions, and some quite barbaric here. There have been conversations about from/to both sides. Former counterterrorism chief Richard Clarke has testified that he approved these flights, stating that "it was a conscious decision with complete review at the highest levels of the State Department and the FBI and the White House." Testimony of Richard Clarke, Former Counterterrorism Chief, National Security Council, before The Senate Judiciary Committee, September 3, 2003. |
David wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:39:29 GMT, D Peter Maus wrote: No, he was acting on his own initiative, by his own admission. Publicly stating so. He personally vetted the family members requesting to leave, and he personally authorized them to exit the country according to protocols. The Prince's own government has the public beheadings. Public beheadings, as barbaric as they are, are part of the Saudi culture, and part of the legal system. Just as we have executions, and some quite barbaric here. There have been conversations about from/to both sides. Former counterterrorism chief Richard Clarke has testified that he approved these flights, stating that "it was a conscious decision with complete review at the highest levels of the State Department and the FBI and the White House." Testimony of Richard Clarke, Former Counterterrorism Chief, National Security Council, before The Senate Judiciary Committee, September 3, 2003. LOL! What's so interesting, is that you led off with a statement that's so blatantly false, and when I rebut, you come back and admit you had knowledge of the truth. So much so that you could correct my mistakees and then underscore my point for me. GOD, I love the internet. "Review", is NOT taking orders as you had stated. "Review" only underscores exactly what I said, that Clarke had taken the matter on his own initiative, within the established protocols at the time. Thank you for confirming that for me. And that his initiative and his procedures were approved. Approved. Not ordered. Big diffence. Especially when you're determined to split hairs to make a false condemnation. Thanks, David. You made my day. p |
D Peter Maus wrote: David wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:39:29 GMT, D Peter Maus wrote: No, he was acting on his own initiative, by his own admission. Publicly stating so. He personally vetted the family members requesting to leave, and he personally authorized them to exit the country according to protocols. The Prince's own government has the public beheadings. Public beheadings, as barbaric as they are, are part of the Saudi culture, and part of the legal system. Just as we have executions, and some quite barbaric here. There have been conversations about from/to both sides. Former counterterrorism chief Richard Clarke has testified that he approved these flights, stating that "it was a conscious decision with complete review at the highest levels of the State Department and the FBI and the White House." Testimony of Richard Clarke, Former Counterterrorism Chief, National Security Council, before The Senate Judiciary Committee, September 3, 2003. LOL! What's so interesting, is that you led off with a statement that's so blatantly false, and when I rebut, you come back and admit you had knowledge of the truth. So much so that you could correct my mistakees and then underscore my point for me. GOD, I love the internet. "Review", is NOT taking orders as you had stated. "Review" only underscores exactly what I said, that Clarke had taken the matter on his own initiative, within the established protocols at the time. Thank you for confirming that for me. And that his initiative and his procedures were approved. Approved. Not ordered. Big diffence. Especially when you're determined to split hairs to make a false condemnation. Thanks, David. You made my day. Made mine also as I was sitting here wondering after he posted that if he understood the English language at all. dxAce Michigan USA |
dxAce wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote: David wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:39:29 GMT, D Peter Maus wrote: No, he was acting on his own initiative, by his own admission. Publicly stating so. He personally vetted the family members requesting to leave, and he personally authorized them to exit the country according to protocols. The Prince's own government has the public beheadings. Public beheadings, as barbaric as they are, are part of the Saudi culture, and part of the legal system. Just as we have executions, and some quite barbaric here. There have been conversations about from/to both sides. Former counterterrorism chief Richard Clarke has testified that he approved these flights, stating that "it was a conscious decision with complete review at the highest levels of the State Department and the FBI and the White House." Testimony of Richard Clarke, Former Counterterrorism Chief, National Security Council, before The Senate Judiciary Committee, September 3, 2003. LOL! What's so interesting, is that you led off with a statement that's so blatantly false, and when I rebut, you come back and admit you had knowledge of the truth. So much so that you could correct my mistakees and then underscore my point for me. GOD, I love the internet. "Review", is NOT taking orders as you had stated. "Review" only underscores exactly what I said, that Clarke had taken the matter on his own initiative, within the established protocols at the time. Thank you for confirming that for me. And that his initiative and his procedures were approved. Approved. Not ordered. Big diffence. Especially when you're determined to split hairs to make a false condemnation. Thanks, David. You made my day. Made mine also as I was sitting here wondering after he posted that if he understood the English language at all. dxAce Michigan USA Good point. Seems to be a lot of that going around these days. |
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:10:28 GMT, D Peter Maus
wrote: Huh!? You said it was General Wes Clarke. The point you neatly turned away from is that these people were allowed to flee without being put in the hot seat. |
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