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John Smith July 21st 05 03:30 AM

A sad day? Or, a reprieve for amateur radio?
 
I found this link:
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-05-143A1.doc
under a post in rec.radio.amateur.policy and titled "A Sad Day."

Hopefully, it is in time to save amateur radio...

John



Brian Denley July 21st 05 04:37 AM

John Smith wrote:
I found this link:
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-05-143A1.doc
under a post in rec.radio.amateur.policy and titled "A Sad Day."

Hopefully, it is in time to save amateur radio...

John


This might save the hobby.

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html



[email protected] July 21st 05 12:57 PM

"John Smith" wrote:

I found this link:
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-05-143A1.doc
under a post in rec.radio.amateur.policy and titled "A Sad Day."

Hopefully, it is in time to save amateur radio...

John

So would a license for a quarter. If you are that lazy use a cellfone.

MnMikew July 21st 05 03:30 PM


"Brian Denley" wrote in message
...
John Smith wrote:
I found this link:
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-05-143A1.doc
under a post in rec.radio.amateur.policy and titled "A Sad Day."

Hopefully, it is in time to save amateur radio...

John


This might save the hobby.

That's the way I see it.



[email protected] July 21st 05 04:51 PM

"MnMikew" wrote:


"Brian Denley" wrote in message
...
John Smith wrote:
I found this link:
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-05-143A1.doc
under a post in rec.radio.amateur.policy and titled "A Sad Day."

Hopefully, it is in time to save amateur radio...

John


This might save the hobby.

That's the way I see it.

It may have no effect anyway, the cops are starting to use ham radio
in there cars, very soon the STAZI will bust right in and steal the
bands in the name of the Law!

MnMikew July 21st 05 05:14 PM


wrote in message
...
It may have no effect anyway, the cops are starting to use ham radio
in there cars,


I've never heard of this, what bands?



John Smith July 21st 05 05:33 PM

In my city in california, police and state police have always had CB
radios and ham equip in their patrol cars (if they have a ham
license.) Been so for decades!

John

"MnMikew" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
It may have no effect anyway, the cops are starting to use ham
radio
in there cars,


I've never heard of this, what bands?





Cmdr Buzz Corey July 21st 05 05:45 PM

John S. wrote:

John



Quote: 3.Based upon the petitions and comments, we propose to amend
our amateur service rules to eliminate the requirement that individuals
pass a telegraphy examination in order to qualify for any amateur radio
operator license.

It is long long overdue, but welcome nonetheless. I hope that it is in
time to turn around the trends that are so well known.


There are no trends and eleminating the CW requirement will make little
if any difference.

[email protected] July 21st 05 06:11 PM

"MnMikew" wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
It may have no effect anyway, the cops are starting to use ham radio
in there cars,


I've never heard of this, what bands?

It's in an column in MT. Right now there putting them in cars
"just in case" ---RIGHT!


John Smith July 21st 05 06:19 PM

Remind me NOT to ever employ you as an accountant!!!

John

"beerbarrel" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:30:24 -0500, "MnMikew"
wrote:


"Brian Denley" wrote in message
...
John Smith wrote:
I found this link:
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-05-143A1.doc
under a post in rec.radio.amateur.policy and titled "A Sad Day."

Hopefully, it is in time to save amateur radio...

John

This might save the hobby.

That's the way I see it.



I don't think that the hobby is in trouble. Look at the numbers
today.
They are larger than ever. If it were in trouble it would not be
from
lack of membership.




John S. July 21st 05 06:22 PM



John Smith wrote:
I found this link:
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-05-143A1.doc
under a post in rec.radio.amateur.policy and titled "A Sad Day."

Hopefully, it is in time to save amateur radio...

John


Quote: 3.Based upon the petitions and comments, we propose to amend
our amateur service rules to eliminate the requirement that individuals
pass a telegraphy examination in order to qualify for any amateur radio
operator license.

It is long long overdue, but welcome nonetheless. I hope that it is in
time to turn around the trends that are so well known.


MnMikew July 21st 05 06:54 PM


"beerbarrel" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:30:24 -0500, "MnMikew"
wrote:


"Brian Denley" wrote in message
...
John Smith wrote:
I found this link:
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-05-143A1.doc
under a post in rec.radio.amateur.policy and titled "A Sad Day."

Hopefully, it is in time to save amateur radio...

John

This might save the hobby.

That's the way I see it.



I don't think that the hobby is in trouble. Look at the numbers today.
They are larger than ever. If it were in trouble it would not be from
lack of membership.


Ham radio is in need of some new blood.




John S. July 21st 05 07:09 PM



Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:
John S. wrote:

John



Quote: 3.Based upon the petitions and comments, we propose to amend
our amateur service rules to eliminate the requirement that individuals
pass a telegraphy examination in order to qualify for any amateur radio
operator license.

It is long long overdue, but welcome nonetheless. I hope that it is in
time to turn around the trends that are so well known.


There are no trends and eleminating the CW requirement will make little
if any difference.


Well, yes there are trends. Some people have actually taken the time
to review the data before making a judgement on the health of the
hobby. The news is not good. Take a look at:
http://users.crosspaths.net/~wallio/LICENSE.html

I do agree that removing the morse code requirement will probably have
little impact on long term registration. It is probably too little too
late to reverse the trend of the hobby moving from grey to white hair
as the age of active participants continues to increase. The hobby is
almost a quaint anachronism to younger people who are aware of it.
There are so many viable alternatives that do not require tests and
licenses.


John Smith July 21st 05 07:38 PM

as I say, we could require that you need to learn to knit and crochet
before you are given an "internet license", probably stop quite a
few... (and hell, that is useful, one could knit themselves a nice
pillow to sit on while using the computer!)

John

"beerbarrel" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:54:02 -0500, "MnMikew"
wrote:


"beerbarrel" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:30:24 -0500, "MnMikew"
wrote:


"Brian Denley" wrote in message
...
John Smith wrote:
I found this link:
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-05-143A1.doc
under a post in rec.radio.amateur.policy and titled "A Sad
Day."

Hopefully, it is in time to save amateur radio...

John

This might save the hobby.

That's the way I see it.



I don't think that the hobby is in trouble. Look at the numbers
today.
They are larger than ever. If it were in trouble it would not be
from
lack of membership.


Ham radio is in need of some new blood.




Maybe, but lack of CW won't guarantee that. Anyone can get a Ham
licence now.




John Smith July 21st 05 07:40 PM

John S.:

Since when does commander buzzard let logic and facts get in his way,
get real the man is lower on the evolutionary scale than an amoeba!

John

"John S." wrote in message
oups.com...


Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:
John S. wrote:

John


Quote: 3.Based upon the petitions and comments, we propose to
amend
our amateur service rules to eliminate the requirement that
individuals
pass a telegraphy examination in order to qualify for any amateur
radio
operator license.

It is long long overdue, but welcome nonetheless. I hope that it
is in
time to turn around the trends that are so well known.


There are no trends and eleminating the CW requirement will make
little
if any difference.


Well, yes there are trends. Some people have actually taken the
time
to review the data before making a judgement on the health of the
hobby. The news is not good. Take a look at:
http://users.crosspaths.net/~wallio/LICENSE.html

I do agree that removing the morse code requirement will probably
have
little impact on long term registration. It is probably too little
too
late to reverse the trend of the hobby moving from grey to white
hair
as the age of active participants continues to increase. The hobby
is
almost a quaint anachronism to younger people who are aware of it.
There are so many viable alternatives that do not require tests and
licenses.




John Smith July 21st 05 07:41 PM

good point...

amateur radio does need new blood to bring it forth from the
stoneage...

John

"beerbarrel" wrote in message
...
On 21 Jul 2005 11:09:03 -0700, "John S." wrote:



Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:
John S. wrote:

John


Quote: 3.Based upon the petitions and comments, we propose to
amend
our amateur service rules to eliminate the requirement that
individuals
pass a telegraphy examination in order to qualify for any
amateur radio
operator license.

It is long long overdue, but welcome nonetheless. I hope that
it is in
time to turn around the trends that are so well known.


There are no trends and eleminating the CW requirement will make
little
if any difference.


Well, yes there are trends. Some people have actually taken the
time
to review the data before making a judgement on the health of the
hobby. The news is not good. Take a look at:
http://users.crosspaths.net/~wallio/LICENSE.html

I do agree that removing the morse code requirement will probably
have
little impact on long term registration. It is probably too little
too
late to reverse the trend of the hobby moving from grey to white
hair
as the age of active participants continues to increase. The hobby
is
almost a quaint anachronism to younger people who are aware of it.
There are so many viable alternatives that do not require tests and
licenses.




Yep, there are trends in anything, but I don't see a particularly
bad
one in ham radio. I would not base my conception of ham radio on
this
one analysis alone.

Read this line from that writer...

"But it is important to state that this says little about the health
of the Amateur Radio Service. Activity on the bands, level of
technology, experimentation, education, and emergency preparedness
are
just a few of the important factors demonstrating the real health of
the Amateur Radio Service."






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